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“Any time you play the game, you should play with a chip on your shoulder,” Seymour said. “You should play with an attitude.

“But in terms of being dirty, going out to hurt guys, I don’t think I play that way or any of my teammates (play that way). I don’t stand for it. But we do play tough and physical. I do believe that’s the way the game is supposed to be played. I respect guys that play the same way.”

Previous Raiders coaches have tried to clean up the team’s chippy play without success. But Seymour indicated this year’s efforts are taking hold.

“I’m not sure where we rank in terms of penalties this year, but if there is anything you want to eliminate, it’s pre-snap penalties, things that get you beat in terms of being a good football team,” Seymour said. “I think we should eliminate that. I thought we tried to do that this year. Each game is different. We go out there and control the things we can control. We can’t control what the refs call, only to some degree. We go out there and play hard and tough.”

“Those sorts of thoughts come at the back end (of one’s career),” Quinn said. “If you asked Rich Gannon where his career jump-started at, Steve Young where his career jump-started at, Kurt Warner, etc. — those are great quarterbacks. I’m not comparing myself to anybody, but I think those guys will probably tell you that it was after the fact, looking back, that they would tell you where they kind of jump-started their careers.

“They might have thought it at times throughout, and it may not have worked out for them that way. So for me, it’s not ever about focusing on that. It’s focusing on the process of getting better and trying to come out of each game feeling like I’ve gotten better. I know we didn’t win (against Tampa Bay), and I didn’t play great, but I felt like I got better that day. I learned things either through my mistakes or through some good things there on the field.

“We’re not satisfied,” defensive lineman Richard Seymour said. “We understand that we have to play better, that we have to get better as a team.”

Carson Palmer was 26 of 46 for 298 yards with a touchdown and an interception and also ran for a score, but was 9 of 13 for 118 yards while running a no-huddle offense that helped the Raiders rally. Though Oakland had success in that up-tempo set, it’s not something they expect to run full-time.

“It worked for us (in a win) against Pittsburgh and it worked (last Sunday) but it’s one of those things where you don’t want to hang your hat on a no-huddle offense,” said running back Darren McFadden, who has been held to 157 yards on 59 carries in the last three games after gaining a season-high 113 against the Steelers on Sept. 23.

Yet, the Chiefs may be getting close to getting Hillis back. He practiced on a limited basis and the team is hopeful he could play Sunday against visiting Oakland. Kansas City coach Romeo Crennel is looking forward to seeing a Charles-Hillis tandem finally develop.

“You’ve got a big back that can catch the ball, which can break some tackles, who has good vision and all those kinds of things, and being able to complement Jamaal as well,” Crennel told reporters Wednesday. “I think that it makes the defenses have to think twice about how they’re going to defend some things.”

Meanwhile, the Chiefs’ health seems to be improving. Defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey (calf) was limited and he could be getting back to action and receiver/returner Devon Wylie (hamstring) practiced fully.

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