2012 NFL Mock Draft

@LetsGoChiefs That is an interesting idea. My worry with Bell is that he is almost the only real starting caliber OT on the market so he'll be over priced. When you add that to his injury concerns I'm not sure Pioli will do it, but we'll see. Foles scares me a little. He looks the part but he seems to check down way too much. I think he has an NFL arm, he just seems scared to use it sometimes.

@KC_for_life I don't agree on the 1st round OTs. Kalil, Reiff, and Martin are all likely to go in the first 12 picks and then after that it pretty much just Mike Adams. Everyone else with a first round grade is best suited on the interior.

@LyleGraversen I doubt all 3 of them will go in the top 15 - 17. if so then the G or Lb will probably be there

G and LB are not our R1 needs IMO; OT is! And OT is one of those few "premium" positions where the top players go quickly to the teams who do need them (QB and CB are other premium positions). Can't see rolling the dice on our #1 need at a premium position if one of the top 3 is available.

@KC_for_life I would be willing to make a wager that all three are gone by pick 17.

@LyleGraversen@KC_for_life It's hard to disagree with your statement about the OT's. However, Mike Adams is going to be in the mix. Despite the early rankings, he looked like a potentially elite left tackle at the Senior Bowl. He has smooth feet and movements, pretty good technique already, and he has the size and length to anchor effectively. My guess is the Chiefs will have a shot at one of the four top OT's. Hopefully Adams will still be on the board at eleven or twelve. If a player like him can step in at LT right away, BA could be moved to RT, thereby upgrading both positions at once. The added benefit is BA would be a very athletic RT in pass protection. Very few teams have bookends who excel in pass protection.

I agree Lyle. OT is our #1 need. We need to maximize our chances for success in meeting this need and minimize the chances of "outsmarting" ourselves by trading down. Now if all of the top 3 OTs are gone, then it may be another matter.

I bet we find an OT in free agency, I thought our inability to run the ball was directly attributed to a weak interior line, Hudson may not be the answer at C no one really knows. So I would like to see the Chiefs make a move to get at least one interior lineman. As for justifying a 1st round Lb, are we sure we want an offensive player? What if our OC sucks again and is unable to make improvements even with a new RT. Wouldn't it be better to draft someone who we know e can coach up. Houstan, Berry and Lewis had great rookie seasons and DJ showed great progress under Crennel.

@KC_for_life Go look at the OT free agent list, its not pretty. If KC did draft both Martins I feel confident that they would have an elite run game again and that should open things up for Cassel. The defense will be solid. They get Berry back and maybe sign one of the FA nose tackles and they'll be fine. We need help on offense if we want to be able to win playoff games.

@KC_for_life We HAVE to fix the OC and staff problem this offseason; assuming failure can NOT be an option. Then we have to FIX the shortest leg of our 3-legged stool (offense, defense, special teams), namely by filling the more numerous personnel holes on offense (ROT, RBF, QB depth, TE depth, OL depth--assuming Bowe is resigned). These mainly have to be filled through the draft and undrafted FAs. We have 8 draft picks (2 in R7) and possibly a compensatory pick at the end of R3, others say. And we are way under the spending cap, even after both Bowe and Carr are resigned. So we have plenty of firepower to get the job done THIS OFFSEASON! Assuming Hunt/Pioli will not use this firepower is also NOT an option. Finally, with a complete 2012 supporting cast in place, if Cassel still can't cut it, then we have to focus 2013 firepower on the QB position. SO LET IT BE WRITTEN; SO LET IT BE DONE!

A NT would be ideal but if not an LB would be awsome in R1, anybody would be an upgrade over richardson. And take into account how bad our O line coach is (he might have been fired or maybe he will be). We've had a bad Oline for awhile, and remember when he said Gaither sucked. Play to your coaching strengths and try to get a defensive player if possible if not go OT, but I find that guard more interesting. If you draft an OT you get a good solid 3rd ranked OT in the draft. But if ou draft this David guy you get the best OG prospect in a while, which I find to be more important.I'm not saying let Richardson play,I'm saying get it in either free agency or rounds 2 or 3. Get an under the radar OT in free agency and then grab a 3rd round tackle with a pick you got from trading down.

@LyleGraversen @KC_for_life Lyle, if we could pick up a LT in free agency then trading down could make sense and get a G.

@aliveoutofhabit I think bradham would have to run REALLY fast to go in the first, but certainly could be wrong. When you say pass rusher, do you mean another OLB? I can't see that with Houston and Hali. If you mean a d-line that could come in on passing downs, maybe. I just think getting a good RB is a bigger deal then some people think. For Cassel to succeed he needs a top run game for the defense to key on. If Charles doesn't come back the same player he was before, we need more then Battle and McCluster to give Cassel the help he needs to open up the passing game.

@laddiemorse Yeah, to be honest the hard thing when you sit down to do a mock this year is that the guys between picks 15-45 seem to be close enough in value that it makes it hard to figure who may slip farther then expected.

@LyleGraversen Lyle... good observation about the 15-45 being close in value and I agree. I just think that coming off of a National Championship... and with all that big time exposure... it would be hard for him to drop that far. I'm guessing he'll go before Zach Brown. My other question is... do you think the Giants would actually add another piece to their already formidable front seven?

@bowler7310 If there was a top NT prospect then I might buy that, but about the only NT option I see for KC in the 2nd round is Alameda Ta'amu out of Washington. If he shows well at the combine then maybe I'd get on board with that. Anyone else they might take in round 2 I would see more as someone the Chiefs would use in a rotation next year and I think Doug Martin could make a bigger impact.

@LyleGraversen @bowler7310 Agree 100% with R1. Torn about R2 and think Josh Chapman, SR NT from Alabama would be a better alternative than Ta'amu and fear he might be gone by the time we pick in R3, although our R2 pick may be a bit of a reach for him. But I have to agree with your analysis and conclude that we either have to get our NT in FA or do so trading up into the bottom half of R2 to get Chapman. Bottom line, OT, NT and RBF are, IMO, our top 3 needs and we can't always draft in need order.

@JohnMorrow @bowler7310 Yeah, the possible NT free agents look a lot better to me then trying to find someone who could step in and start in the draft this year.

It does take time for most DLs to develop. Which FAs do you have in mind?

@JohnMorrow In order: P. Soliai - Mia. S. Pouha - NYJ A. Garay - SD A. Franklin - NO SL Hill - Det. S. Rogers - NO B. McKinney - Balt.

Maybe Crennel's reputation and the remaining quality of our D will be helpful in securing one of these and continuing Powe's mentoring. Needs to happen pre-draft though.

LetsGoChiefs That is an interesting idea. My worry with Bell is that he is almost the only real starting caliber OT on the market so he'll be over priced. When you add that to his injury concerns I'm not sure Pioli will do it, but we'll see. Foles scares me a little. He looks the part but he seems to check down way too much. I think he has an NFL arm, he just seems scared to use it sometimes.

KC_for_life I don't agree on the 1st round OTs. Kalil, Reiff, and Martin are all likely to go in the first 12 picks and then after that it pretty much just Mike Adams. Everyone else with a first round grade is best suited on the interior.

LyleGraversen I doubt all 3 of them will go in the top 15 - 17. if so then the G or Lb will probably be there

G and LB are not our R1 needs IMO; OT is! And OT is one of those few "premium" positions where the top players go quickly to the teams who do need them (QB and CB are other premium positions). Can't see rolling the dice on our #1 need at a premium position if one of the top 3 is available.

KC_for_life I would be willing to make a wager that all three are gone by pick 17.

LyleGraversenKC_for_life It's hard to disagree with your statement about the OT's. However, Mike Adams is going to be in the mix. Despite the early rankings, he looked like a potentially elite left tackle at the Senior Bowl. He has smooth feet and movements, pretty good technique already, and he has the size and length to anchor effectively.

My guess is the Chiefs will have a shot at one of the four top OT's. Hopefully Adams will still be on the board at eleven or twelve. If a player like him can step in at LT right away, BA could be moved to RT, thereby upgrading both positions at once. The added benefit is BA would be a very athletic RT in pass protection. Very few teams have bookends who excel in pass protection.

I agree Lyle. OT is our #1 need. We need to maximize our chances for success in meeting this need and minimize the chances of "outsmarting" ourselves by trading down. Now if all of the top 3 OTs are gone, then it may be another matter.

I bet we find an OT in free agency, I thought our inability to run the ball was directly attributed to a weak interior line, Hudson may not be the answer at C no one really knows. So I would like to see the Chiefs make a move to get at least one interior lineman. As for justifying a 1st round Lb, are we sure we want an offensive player? What if our OC sucks again and is unable to make improvements even with a new RT. Wouldn't it be better to draft someone who we know e can coach up. Houstan, Berry and Lewis had great rookie seasons and DJ showed great progress under Crennel.

KC_for_life Go look at the OT free agent list, its not pretty. If KC did draft both Martins I feel confident that they would have an elite run game again and that should open things up for Cassel. The defense will be solid. They get Berry back and maybe sign one of the FA nose tackles and they'll be fine. We need help on offense if we want to be able to win playoff games.

KC_for_life We HAVE to fix the OC and staff problem this offseason; assuming failure can NOT be an option. Then we have to FIX the shortest leg of our 3-legged stool (offense, defense, special teams), namely by filling the more numerous personnel holes on offense (ROT, RBF, QB depth, TE depth, OL depth--assuming Bowe is resigned). These mainly have to be filled through the draft and undrafted FAs. We have 8 draft picks (2 in R7) and possibly a compensatory pick at the end of R3, others say. And we are way under the spending cap, even after both Bowe and Carr are resigned. So we have plenty of firepower to get the job done THIS OFFSEASON! Assuming Hunt/Pioli will not use this firepower is also NOT an option. Finally, with a complete 2012 supporting cast in place, if Cassel still can't cut it, then we have to focus 2013 firepower on the QB position. SO LET IT BE WRITTEN; SO LET IT BE DONE!

A NT would be ideal but if not an LB would be awsome in R1, anybody would be an upgrade over richardson. And take into account how bad our O line coach is (he might have been fired or maybe he will be). We've had a bad Oline for awhile, and remember when he said Gaither sucked. Play to your coaching strengths and try to get a defensive player if possible if not go OT, but I find that guard more interesting. If you draft an OT you get a good solid 3rd ranked OT in the draft. But if ou draft this David guy you get the best OG prospect in a while, which I find to be more important.I'm not saying let Richardson play,I'm saying get it in either free agency or rounds 2 or 3. Get an under the radar OT in free agency and then grab a 3rd round tackle with a pick you got from trading down.

LyleGraversenKC_for_life Lyle, if we could pick up a LT in free agency then trading down could make sense and get a G.

aliveoutofhabit I think bradham would have to run REALLY fast to go in the first, but certainly could be wrong. When you say pass rusher, do you mean another OLB? I can't see that with Houston and Hali. If you mean a d-line that could come in on passing downs, maybe. I just think getting a good RB is a bigger deal then some people think. For Cassel to succeed he needs a top run game for the defense to key on. If Charles doesn't come back the same player he was before, we need more then Battle and McCluster to give Cassel the help he needs to open up the passing game.

laddiemorse Yeah, to be honest the hard thing when you sit down to do a mock this year is that the guys between picks 15-45 seem to be close enough in value that it makes it hard to figure who may slip farther then expected.