The Chiefs At #12 Overall…

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Assuming the Kansas City Chiefs lose the coin flip with the Seahawks, here’s how I imagine the first 11 picks of the 2012 NFL Draft go:

1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck, Stanford
2. Cleveland Browns (trade up): QB Robert Griffin III, Baylor
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil, USC
4. St. Louis Rams (trade down): WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
5. Tampa Bay Bucs: RB Trent Richardson, Alabama
6. Washington Redskins: CB Morris Claiborne, LSU
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: WR Alshon Jeffrey, South Carolina
8. Miami Dolphins: DT Devin Still, Penn State
9. Carolina Panthers: CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
10. Buffalo Bills: OT Jonathan Martin, Stanford
11. Seattle Seahawks: DE Quentin Coples, North Carolina
12. Chiefs:

At this point, my big board in terms of the most talented remaining players is after the jump:

The most talented players on my big board:

1. OG David DeCastro, Stanford
2. CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama
3. ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College
4. OT Riley Reiff, Iowa
5. ILB Dont’a Hightower, Alabama
6. DE/OLB Nick Perry, USC
7. WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
8. DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
9. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin
10. CB Alonzo Dennard, Nebraska

I look over this list, and I gotta be honest. The only players that make sense are offensive line.

DeCastro, Reiff and Konz.

I’m almost certain that, even if the Chiefs are able to trade down, their first rounder almost certainly will be offensive line.

Under these circumstances, I’d have to prefer the Chiefs go with the position with actual first-round talent, and take a player you just know Pioli knows forward and backward, OT Riley Reiff, for a position of clear need.

As we will discuss over the course of the offseason, DeCastro is the best talent on the board, and aside from Jenkins and Kuechly, it’s not even close. But the Chiefs are relatively set at guard with LG Ryan Lilja (whom I believe GM Scott Pioli is still fond of) and RG Jon Asamoah. Plus, Pioli does treasure positional value, and he’s not going to abandon that two years out of the past three (taking Eric Berry two years ago violated Pioli’s conventional wisdom on positional value).

Normally right tackle isn’t that valuable either, but LT Branden Albert is up for a new contract in 2013, so having an insurance policy in case Albert loses his mind and demands Willie Roaf money is critical.

I think this means the Chiefs draft Riley Reiff, or trade down. Assuming we let C Casey Wiegmann and RT Barry Richardson go in free agency (a move I support), the tentative line would look pretty solid:

LT: Branden Albert, Riley Reiff
LG: Ryan Lilja, Darryl Harris
C: Rodney Hudson, Darryl Harris
RG: Jon Asamoah, Darryl Harris
RT: Riley Reiff, Joe Maneri

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I've heard DeCastro is the best prospect to come out at guard in like five years. I dont care what they do as long as they address the offensive line at some point. I really dont think we need Richardson but we do need to think about a nose tackle and safety depth at some point.

Why do you see the Bucs taking Richardson??? Living here in th TB area Blount is beloved by fans. He is a load, near impossible to tackle. I could see bringing in a speedster to compliment him, but why do you think the go for another bruiser?

I prefer DeCastro and get a good RT in the second round. He is the best player available at that point. Unless we pick up Nicks, then it's Reiff for sure. I've been saying trade down for a while. We could get a quality RT, OG and RB if we picked up an extra pick in the 2nd.

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@kctenn44 Charles_n_Charge Over_Dwayne_Bowe Breaston_Plants Berry_Scary Hali_Hali_oxen_free Flowers_Powers Wat_a_Succop No_Action_Jackson & my favorite Asamoah_alot_of_weed, lol

@MicahStephenson those are perfect now onto the dilemma of deciding on which of those gems to use

@kctenn44 damn espn! That is the coolest name I've ever seen hahaha! Bowes_b4_Hoes!! All of michah stephensons names r funny ass shit too haha

Albert, Lilja, Hudson, Asomoah, Reiff looks ok. I was wondering if Hudson wud b better than Lilja @ LG? Of corse that means a good Center would have to b brought in. If C.Nicks was added @ LG WHOA! Nicks would make Albert and Hudson better!

@MicahStephenson 1. Hudson played in place of Lilja against the Steelers, and looked extremely good. He'd be an upgrade at LG, but I think the Chiefs want him at center.2. Nicks is a big load of a guy, and isn't really a fit for the zone blocking system. DeCastro is a fantastic fit for our system, however. I just don't like taking a guard in the first, even if he is the best player on the board.

@Andrew Crocker@MicahStephenson I live in Florida.All of my Florida State buddies foam at the mouth when talking about Hudsons dominance at FSU.

@Andrew Crocker@MicahStephenson Crock, if you could get rookie Will Shields in the 1st round, your saying you'd pass on him. This kid has that kind of potential.

I have seen it written somewhere that DeCastro could play anywhere on the OL except LT. If this is true, them picking him is a no brainer to me. Has anyone else seen scouting reports indicating he could play RT in the NFL?

@JohnMorrow I'd rather not try to change an OG to an OT again no offense to Albert but.. he woulda been twice the lineman he is now at OG

Agree, all other things being equal, that it would be better; however: 1. Although Albert is not yet and may never be an All Pro LT, I think many tend to sell his performance at LT short; 2. We now have far more evidence (all NFL) that he is a good NFL LT than we have (all college) that he would be twice as good as an NFL OG; 3. It is easier for the right kind of college OG to become an NFL RT than LT. It just depends upon: 1. What the Chiefs' choices are at the time, and 2. Whether professional level talent evaluators believe Decastro has what it takes to be an NFL RT. If yes, it would be mighty tempting to take the best and most versatile OL available. Must not allow wanting the Perfect to become the enemy of actually achieving the Good! Just saying.

@JohnMorrow It's an interesting thought. I haven't heard any rumblings that DeCastro would look good at tackle, but it's very early in the draft season.

I'd rather see us trade down pick up an extra second rounder and draft either Dontari Poe draft a right tackle in the second and get a tight end or ILB with our added pick. I'm also hoping they would sign Carl Nicks in free agency and resign Bowe and Carr. Also need safety depth, a project 34 end, a complementary back to Charles like Terrance Gannaway, and more speed at wide receiver and corner. If this happened we would have a very complete team minus the QB position.

@IceChief27 I agree that's exactly what we should do. It just makes too much sense so the Chiefs won't do it.

@IceChief27 that does make a lot of sense if they do trade down i so go for Burfict he would fit Perfect in our linebackers think about it Hali Dj Burfict and Houston talk about a nightmare

@rockygentleman@IceChief27 not a burfict fan not since he got into an arguement with his coach and got benched now if that dropped him like houston then ill take him for sure but not real early taking attitude players is ok once in awhile take a bunch and we become the bengals of old

@kctenn44@rockygentleman@IceChief27 I'd rather have Hightower than Burfict.

@Andrew Crocker. Why do you like Hightower over Burfict? I'm not sure Hightower brings anything Belcher doesn't. He's a solid Thumper, but Burfict could be really special if he can keep his emotions in check On the field. He doesn't have any off field problems to speak of and ten years ago he would have been coveted. There were a lot of guys in the NFL of old who made their living terrorizing opponents, although today's league is changing

@kctenn44@rockygentleman@IceChief27 I think we could trade down and get Burfict. I agree that his attitude is a problem, but our locker room is solid. And with Crennel coaching the D Burfict would have to respect this coach. AND we could pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder.

@rockygentleman@IceChief27 We seem pretty tight at that position with 2 character guys in Belcher and Siler. I don't think Burfict is anywhere near a top need on the team.

@IceChief27 If Pioli or anyone else can trade the 12th pick and get a 1st and 2 in return, great idea. Someone else suggested NE has 2 #1s and Pioli should trade our #1, great also just convine NE it is great.

@IceChief27 I think it'd be very hard to trade out of #12 (or #11, if we win the coin toss). But I thought the same thing last year about #21, and Pioli landed a great deal there. I agree, trading down makes the most sense this year. I'm usually very against trading down, but this year it makes the most sense.

@Andrew Crocker@IceChief27 It all depends on how the draft plays out. It is an awkward position in that you aren't getting the PREMIER guys, but if one of them falls to 11 or 12 and it is not a position of need for us, who knows.

Danny W 137 pts

I've heard DeCastro is the best prospect to come out at guard in like five years. I dont care what they do as long as they address the offensive line at some point. I really dont think we need Richardson but we do need to think about a nose tackle and safety depth at some point.

Gjrchief 138 pts

Why do you see the Bucs taking Richardson??? Living here in th TB area Blount is beloved by fans. He is a load, near impossible to tackle. I could see bringing in a speedster to compliment him, but why do you think the go for another bruiser?

calchiefsfan 180 pts

I prefer DeCastro and get a good RT in the second round. He is the best player available at that point. Unless we pick up Nicks, then it's Reiff for sure. I've been saying trade down for a while. We could get a quality RT, OG and RB if we picked up an extra pick in the 2nd.

kctenn44 47 pts

looking for a good chief username on ESPN.com wouldnt let me use Bowes_b4_hos any ideas?

MicahStephenson 78 pts

kctenn44 Charles_n_Charge Over_Dwayne_Bowe Breaston_Plants Berry_Scary Hali_Hali_oxen_free Flowers_Powers Wat_a_Succop No_Action_Jackson & my favorite Asamoah_alot_of_weed, lol

kctenn44 47 pts

MicahStephenson those are perfect now onto the dilemma of deciding on which of those gems to use

YoungSeptember23 13 pts

kctenn44 damn espn! That is the coolest name I've ever seen hahaha! Bowes_b4_Hoes!! All of michah stephensons names r funny ass shit too haha

MicahStephenson 78 pts

Albert, Lilja, Hudson, Asomoah, Reiff looks ok. I was wondering if Hudson wud b better than Lilja @ LG? Of corse that means a good Center would have to b brought in. If C.Nicks was added @ LG WHOA! Nicks would make Albert and Hudson better!

Andrew Crocker 27 pts

MicahStephenson

1. Hudson played in place of Lilja against the Steelers, and looked extremely good. He'd be an upgrade at LG, but I think the Chiefs want him at center.2. Nicks is a big load of a guy, and isn't really a fit for the zone blocking system. DeCastro is a fantastic fit for our system, however. I just don't like taking a guard in the first, even if he is the best player on the board.

dongtogolo 42 pts

Andrew CrockerMicahStephenson I live in Florida.All of my Florida State buddies foam at the mouth when talking about Hudsons dominance at FSU.

dongtogolo 42 pts

Andrew CrockerMicahStephenson Crock, if you could get rookie Will Shields in the 1st round, your saying you'd pass on him. This kid has that kind of potential.

JohnMorrow 151 pts

I have seen it written somewhere that DeCastro could play anywhere on the OL except LT. If this is true, them picking him is a no brainer to me. Has anyone else seen scouting reports indicating he could play RT in the NFL?

kctenn44 47 pts

JohnMorrow

I'd rather not try to change an OG to an OT again no offense to Albert but.. he woulda been twice the lineman he is now at OG

JohnMorrow 151 pts

Agree, all other things being equal, that it would be better; however:

1. Although Albert is not yet and may never be an All Pro LT, I think many tend to sell his performance at LT short;

2. We now have far more evidence (all NFL) that he is a good NFL LT than we have (all college) that he would be twice as good as an NFL OG;

3. It is easier for the right kind of college OG to become an NFL RT than LT.

It just depends upon:

1. What the Chiefs' choices are at the time, and

2. Whether professional level talent evaluators believe Decastro has what it takes to be an NFL RT. If yes, it would be mighty tempting to take the best and most versatile OL available.

Must not allow wanting the Perfect to become the enemy of actually achieving the Good! Just saying.

Andrew Crocker 27 pts

JohnMorrow

It's an interesting thought. I haven't heard any rumblings that DeCastro would look good at tackle, but it's very early in the draft season.

IceChief27 8 pts

I'd rather see us trade down pick up an extra second rounder and draft either Dontari Poe draft a right tackle in the second and get a tight end or ILB with our added pick. I'm also hoping they would sign Carl Nicks in free agency and resign Bowe and Carr. Also need safety depth, a project 34 end, a complementary back to Charles like Terrance Gannaway, and more speed at wide receiver and corner. If this happened we would have a very complete team minus the QB position.

Dmal2026 11 pts

IceChief27 I agree that's exactly what we should do. It just makes too much sense so the Chiefs won't do it.

rockygentleman 49 pts

IceChief27

that does make a lot of sense if they do trade down i so go for Burfict he would fit Perfect in our linebackers think about it Hali Dj Burfict and Houston talk about a nightmare

kctenn44 47 pts

rockygentlemanIceChief27

not a burfict fan not since he got into an arguement with his coach and got benched now if that dropped him like houston then ill take him for sure but not real early taking attitude players is ok once in awhile take a bunch and we become the bengals of old

Andrew Crocker 27 pts

kctenn44rockygentlemanIceChief27

I'd rather have Hightower than Burfict.

IceChief27 8 pts

Andrew J Crocker. Why do you like Hightower over Burfict? I'm not sure Hightower brings anything Belcher doesn't. He's a solid Thumper, but Burfict could be really special if he can keep his emotions in check On the field. He doesn't have any off field problems to speak of and ten years ago he would have been coveted. There were a lot of guys in the NFL of old who made their living terrorizing opponents, although today's league is changing

huckdaddy 72 pts

kctenn44rockygentlemanIceChief27 I think we could trade down and get Burfict. I agree that his attitude is a problem, but our locker room is solid. And with Crennel coaching the D Burfict would have to respect this coach. AND we could pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder.

dongtogolo 42 pts

rockygentlemanIceChief27 We seem pretty tight at that position with 2 character guys in Belcher and Siler. I don't think Burfict is anywhere near a top need on the team.

tm1946 183 pts

IceChief27

If Pioli or anyone else can trade the 12th pick and get a 1st and 2 in return, great idea. Someone else suggested NE has 2 #1s and Pioli should trade our #1, great also just convine NE it is great.