Chiefs: Chew Or False

by Feature From The Bleachers

Wow! This offseason has more issues than Lindsay Lohan in a hookah lounge. So, let’s sort through a few and see what wets your whistle.

1. I would rather have Carl Peterson and Dick Vermeil than… Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel.

True.

It’s so cyclical it’s sickening. The Chiefs always seem to end up with either: a defensive-centric or offensive-centric head coach. One or the other. Marty Schottenheimer was defensive, but became known for his run-first mentality thus, Martyball. Gunther Cunningham was defense, period. Dick Vermeil was offense all the way, and I’m uncertain that he even knew the names of his defensive players. Herman Edwards was defense because he was a defensive player, but I’m a bit challenged when it comes to giving him credit for nearly anything. Todd Haley was offense, but couldn’t navigate being both a HC and an OC simultaneously. The point of it all? Unless the Chiefs hire a powerhouse coach to be their offensive coordinator, they are probably not going to emerge from their immense malaise of mediocrity. Great organizations like the Pittsburgh Steelers have a strong head coach and a defensive coordinator of great notoriety. The Baltimore Ravens have a strong HC and great OC and DC. The good teams have all those coaches in place. So, in the absence of a strong balance between the Chiefs coaches… I’ll take a fun and productive offense to cheer me up, or to cheer for, over a stalwart defense that keeps the scoring low, slow and boring. Thus, Dick and Carl over Romeo and Scott.

2. Moving up to draft QB Robert Griffin III is worth the price that Atlanta paid to get Julio Jones last year.

Absolutely true.

The question is whether or not the Chiefs should do it. Atlanta gave up the following picks to acquire Julio Jones in last year’s draft: their first (27th), a second (59th), a fourth (124th) and a first and fourth in 2012. An interesting twist for the Chiefs is that the Browns turned around and traded their 27th pick to the Chiefs for their 21st pick and the 27th became the 26th pick when the Ravens were late to the gate. For me, RGIII is a top three pick. In fact, if I owned the Indy Colts, I’d be selecting RGIII with the first overall pick.

Now, the Chiefs own the 11th or 12th pick and not the 27th, but they are trying to reach the second pick in the draft not the sixth, like the Falcons. So, I actually think things work out fair enough, without getting into the trade value numbers. The big question is whether or not the Chiefs should give away that much potential future contribution to gain the special player that RGIII has the potential to become. It’s… potential for potential. It’s not like trading one player for five. That would likely be easier to evaluate. So, trading that much potential, five players for one player, is a massive trade-off. Try using the players the Chiefs have drafted the past two years for a comparison. Would you trade to get RGIII for… Jon Baldwin, Rodney Hudson, Jalil Brown (all 2011), Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis (the Chiefs’ fifth round pick because they had no fourth in 2010)?  Would you do that trade? Would I be okay if the Chiefs don’t do it? Yes. Would I be okay if the Chiefs do it? Yes. So, it’s a toss up for me. But, I think Robert Griffin III is so special he will make whatever team that drafts him special for the next 10-15 years. The trade-off now would be hard to swallow, but over the long haul, it gives the Chiefs the chance to reach the heights that they can’t even sniff for now.

Do I think the Chiefs will do it? No.

3. The Chiefs’ new offensive coordinator should come from outside the organization.

True.

I’ve changed my mind about this one over the past week. After the Chiefs hired Romeo Crennel as HC, I originally thought they should go with Jim Zorn and take advantage of allowing their QB and offensive players some continuity. However, as good as the defense has become, the offense needs to match that level of performance and after further review I just don’t think that’s possible if the Chiefs just keep… keeping on keeping on. What’s the saying? “Insanity is doing the same things over again and expecting different results.” For the Chiefs to take advantage of the talented offensive pieces they do have in place, they’ll need to hire a coach who has a specific idea of what he wants the offense to do and be and then make all of the right moves to assure that it happens. That coach needs to be as strong in his convictions as Romeo Crennel is in his, toward the defense. If the offense and defense can’t achieve some balance, the team isn’t going anywhere.

4. The recent Kent Babb article is filled with conjecture and falsehoods.

True and false.

Can I believe the bulk of what Kent Babb is saying, that Scott Pioli is obsessed with loyalty to the degree that he’d place bugs in the building to monitor employees? Yes, I can believe that (so, you’ll probably want to read what Big Matt had to say about that). Do I “know” that it has happened? No, I don’t, but I don’t think it really matters (and you’ll likely want to hear what Lyle Graversen had to say). I don’t mind hearing that the Chiefs GM is obsessive-compulsive and even uses a piece of trash left on the floor as an example to his employees. Twice in my career I took over two different fledgling companies and almost immediately fired people who were already working there. I needed my own people there to help accomplish the tasks I knew they could accomplish. The turnover doesn’t disturb me at all. I’d be more concerned if Scott Pioli didn’t make those moves. Some people should be glad he didn’t completely clean house. Scott Pioli has a job to do, and he’s apparently doing it. Now, if Kent Babb got this information from Todd Haley, but Haley has already signed a confidentiality agreement, then this process is the only way the information about the inner workings of the Chiefs organization could come forward. Right? It may seem scandalous to some, but it’s just a part of the reality of the way things are being done and are currently structured at One Arrowhead Way. The more critical questions for me have to do with Josh McDaniels, Spygate and Scott Pioli’s possible involvement. If Scott was involved in any way, ignored or even covered up the details of what McDaniels had done, it makes him dishonest and untrustworthy at heart and someone the Kansas City Chiefs, and Clark Hunt, should not have at the helm of their organization. If Scott Pioli was at all knowledgeable of the spying incident and/or supported the act, it also could explain what may be a personal belief system and propensity to think that others are trying to bug him and spy on him or even “get” him. And so, in his mind, he must do the same to maintain “the balance of war.” It’s all very James Bond and is coming soon to a theater near you. Kent Babb has indicated in an email that he has more to the story, and we’re all on the edge of our seats. Unless… that’s exactly what Babb was hoping for and was the original intent of his piece. Self-interest. But, we don’t know for sure. Do we?

5. I would be happy with the Chiefs drafting either: RB Trent Richardson or OT Riley Reiff or OT Jonathan Martin or OG David DeCastro or ILB Luke Kuechly.

True.

Mock drafts show eight players appearing repeatedly in the top 10: Luck, Blackmon, Kalil, RGIII, Claiborne, Quinton Coples, Dre Kirkpatrick (except Kirkpatrick was arrested for marijuana possession and may be falling from this lofty spot) and Devon Still. Yes, the other players mentioned in this question appear in the top 10 too but, if even six of the top players are chosen in the top 10, then the Chiefs will get the opportunity to select one of these players: Richardson, Reiff, Martin, DeCastro or Kuechly. It’s a numbers crunch and it looks like the Chiefs are positioned so that if they decide to not move out of their pick they can end up with a top-level talent who can come in and contribute immediately. Unless of course, Pioli goes off the farm, which I’m not expecting him to do this year since he’s under more of a microscope than he already usually is. My bet is, he plays it safe and selects one of these five. Unless of course, someone, another prospect, unexpectedly jumps up into the top 10. Some one like Michael Floyd, WR out of Notre Dame; Melvin Ingram, DE from South Carolina; or, what about QB Ryan Tannehill? So, if one of these players jumps into the top 10, it will push other high quality players down to where the Chiefs can either draft them, or it gives them more power to trade out. Remember how QBs were appearing like magic all up and down the first round last year? In that case, I bet Mr. Pioli trades out because you can bet someone else is trying desperately to trade up and Pioli is good at taking advantage of another GM’s desperation.

6. The Chiefs should stick with Matt Cassel at QB next season.

False.

I’m of the… “new head coaches should get new quarterbacks”… camp. I offered a post in the middle of the season called, “Matt Cassel: Time To Go in which I outlined inconsistent performances throughout his career. For the Chiefs to reach the next level and begin to make a regular habit out of bringing play-off games to Arrowhead, they are going to have to get more than Matt Cassel can provide at the quarterback position. Cassel is a study in frustration. He can be dynamic, impassioned and accurate one week and then the next week look like Garo Yepremian in the ’73 Super Bowl… and if you don’t know who that is, just imagine a kid jumping off the driving board but never deciding if he’s going in feet first or head first, you know, windmill arms. If you’re of the idea that Cassel will be better with an improved offensive line and you keep thinking back to the 2008 season when he was with the Patriots and did so well then… you should take a second look. Here’s the graphic (found below) from my original post showing Matt Cassel’s passer ratings for the previous three seasons. What you should be looking at is how erratic his performances are and even though the Chiefs’ offensive line has at no point been near as good as the Patriots’ over the past three years, you would think that his performances would at least become less erratic, meaning the highs and lows come closer to the mid line. However, the opposite has happened and he is more erratic than ever. If you can give Matt Cassel the credit for those incredibly high passer rated games, then you can also give him credit for the spaz-tastically low ones, right? The Chiefs would be better off moving on from Matt Cassel and forging a new direction at quarterback.


7. What the Chiefs need to fix more than anything else this offseason is… the offensive line.

True.

I was listening to WHB 810 radio this morning (Monday), and it was suggested that the greatest need that the Chiefs have is a nose tackle. They went on to say that the great teams always have defenses that penetrate at will and slam the door on the run and that the Chiefs were just a great  NT away from reaching that kind of elite status. As much as I might agree with them, there’s just no way to deny that the Chiefs have to fix holes on the offensive line, and this is a concern with multiple needs that must be addressed this offseason. If the Chiefs can get one of the top three elite offensive tackles in the upcoming draft, that will go a long way toward filling those needs. If not, then it won’t matter if Jamaal Charles comes back next year and is even better than he used to be. One alternative I could accept to this is… drafting Trent Richardson… with the caveat that they go after an offensive lineman in the second round. Either way… if the Chiefs don’t produce a big body in either the first or second round of the coming draft… fans may start calling for the GM’s head much earlier than expected. BTW… if you missed it, here’s another chance to read Andrew Crocker’s wonderful post on the upcoming 2012 draft.

8. The Chiefs will trade their first round pick on or before draft day.

True.

I’d say the odds are stacked against the Chiefs standing pat. Come to think of it, the Pats have two picks at the end of the first round, depending how far they advance through the playoff brackets and if they were to offer the Chiefs the chance to trade places, two for one, I’d take that deal in a heartbeat! I’m not going to re-quote the high percentage of times that trades are made with first round picks but it is surely one of the most exciting elements of the draft. Scott Pioli has a history of making trades on draft day and not usually for moving up in the draft, so it’s also probably not likely the Pats will be moving up to trade picks with the Chiefs. However, last year’s deal with Cleveland (the 21st pick for the 27th pick, which turned into the 26th pick, plus the Chiefs got a pick in the 3rd round which produced Justin Houston) worked out great and I fully back the idea that moving back and gaining more picks produces a greater number to drafted players and consequently, a greater chance that one of those players will have an impact.

9. Any offseason… no matter how many issues the Chiefs have, no matter how many hours are spent having to listen to people speculate about Brett Favre… is a better offseason than last years collective-bargaining armageddon.

Truer than true.

I hope we haven’t gotten our heads so far into our ascots that we have forgotten how horrible it was to wake up everyday last offseason and realize there was still… no football. For one as backward as myself, lover of all things “offseason,” the thought of such a drought makes me want to sit down and eat a box of crayons. As many “issues” as the Chiefs seem to have this offseason, I am thankful for the problems we’ve got. Because it could be a lot worse. By a kajillion miles.

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I am with you Laddie. The Chiefs were so much fun and exciting to watch with Green and Priest. I think you can have both. The more I read about Daboll the better I like him. Young enough and has the Patriot pedigree to get the support he needs to succeed. The defense just needs a little tweaking and it is there. You know what makes a good defense great? An offense that keeps the ball and controls the clock. I believe you can have it both ways.

Well, I'm going to stick with Roaf, Shields, Holmes, Gonzales, Green and Kennison. However, this debate is exactly the reason why I think it's paramount that the Chiefs bring in an offensive coordinator who is larger than life... if that person exists. So, that the Chiefs can achieve a balance to their universe.

So... all of you are saying you'd rather watch... Hali, Flowers, and DJ... than... Priest Holmes, Gonzo and Trent Green ? ? ? ?

@laddiemorse Without a doubt! Dominant defense is a thing of beauty to watch.

Scorin 60 plus pts... just means u played a bad defense. Holding any NFL team to a shutout means you have dominated.

[...] Chiefs: Chew Or False It's not like trading one player for five. That would likely be easier to evaluate. So, trading that much potential, five players for one player, is a massive trade-off. Try using the players the Chiefs have drafted the past two years for a comparison. … Read more on Arrowhead Addict [...]

1. Pioli/Crennel 2. No way, way too much to pay, especially when we're this close to being very good 3. Agreed. I don't see anyone on the inside that is strong/good enough to run the offense. 4. Agreed 5. Yes, except for Luke Kuechly. 6. Give me a better option than Matt that is available and I'm all for it. I just don't see any except the long shot of Peyton Manning. 7. Absolutely! The o line is priority # 1. 8. Probably and I'm for it if it works out as well as last year. 9. What a nightmare last off season was! Now Houston, Bailey, Powe and Hudson will get a full preseason to get there continue their development. Charles, Berry and Moeaki will be back. I'm looking forward to this year.

@calchiefsfan This could be the year. I believe we will be able to see just if the Pioli plan has any weight to it. I am not talking superbowl or even the playoffs . But in his 4th year some pieces will come together. add a few free agents and a couple of '12 draft pick playing, Pioli could have figured it out. One reminder, Haley's gone, the developement of draft picks, both last years and this years, by Crennel needs to beat the efforts of the other 31 teams. They were all in the same basket at the beginning of the last year and they did more with their rookies. Doubt they will sit back and let the Chiefs catch up.

@tm1946 With the returning injured players and an improvement at RT I will be very disappointed if we don't make the playoffs, i.e. win the division, (even with Cassel at QB). Oakland is still a mess and has no draft picks and San Diego is just stagnant. Denver/Tebow is kind of the wild card. If Tebow progresses as a pocket passer they will be better. If not, we've already figured out how to beat them even with our non existent offense from the last game.

@calchiefsfan In general I agree and goodness knows how Haley ruined this last year. But look at the blowouts. Crennel's defense failed big time, now he is the HC. With Charles and Cassel back, the offense should be better but what if similar injuries hit, once hurt the healthy are more susceptable the second, there needs to be more depth. All that is on Pioli, what does his history say about spending money on free agents?

@tm1946@calchiefsfan I think the Offense had more to do with the blow outs.

@ArrowFan@tm1946@calchiefsfan We turned the ball over 7 times in the 1st 2 games and I believe our opponents started like 70% of their drives on our side of the ball. Palk did a 7 turnover back to backer too. Pretty tough to defend the the field when you only get a few yards of it to start with and very little rest during the offense's futile attempts.

1) Disagree. I would rather have Pioli/Crennel than Peterson/Vermeil. Yes the Vermeil era was more exciting but, the personnel choices during his tenure were terrible. I'd rather have a good defense and poor defense because at least the Pioli team is young and there is hope. 2) Maybe. But I would feel more comfortable with one more reasonably successful draft before we make a big move like that. 3) Agree. I think the current favorite is probably former Dolphins coach Brian Daboll. Daboll is a former Patriots coach who has worked with Crennel and knows Pioli. Would make sense from that position. Understand, I don't say I would like him as OC but he has the correct nepotistic requirements to fill the position. 4) Agree. 5) Agree. By the way, Kiper has the Chiefs picking Devon Still in his 1st mock draft. 6) Agree. I don't think they should "stick with him" but, I think they will be forced to. 7) Agree. Improving the offensive line improves the entire offense. Which is a good thing because the entire offense needs improving. 8) Agree. The draft is in many ways like a game of chance. The more chances you have to win the more likely you are to win. Pioli knows this. Moving back 10 spots could earn us another 2nd rounder. Moving back 4 spots could earn us a 3rd. It's good gamesmanship if you have done good scouting and you're not completely sold on players currently in your pick range. 9) Cannot agree more. The NFL playoff contender picture could look hugely different next year with essentially 2 draft classes getting an offseason. Some young team could have a huge upturn. Good article Ladner.

Meanwhile, Tony Gonzalez shattered the NFL single-season receiving record for tight ends with 102 catches. Green finished the 2005 season with a QB rating above 90 for the fourth consecutive year, joining Brett Favre and Steve Young as the only three quarterbacks in NFL history to do so. Record-breaking numbers were the norm for Kansas City's offense under Saunders. In 2003, the Chiefs led the league in 18 different offensive categories, including virtually every Red Zone category. That season, Kansas City owned NFL-high marks in Red Zone points (324), Red Zone TDs (42), Red Zone scoring percentage (98.1) and Red Zone TD percentage (77.8). In 2002, Kansas City broke or tied 22 single-season team offensive records. Most notably, Kansas City turned the ball over a franchise-low 15 times (non-strike season) and broke two long-standing NFL records by fumbling just seven times and losing only two of those fumbles. The Chiefs averaged 148.6 rushing yards per game to rank third in the NFL as Priest Holmes finished the year with 2,287 yards from scrimmage, 1,615 ground yards and nine 100-yard rushing games, all figures which established team single-season records.

In 2005, Saunders led the Kansas City Chiefs offense to a number one overall ranking in the NFL for the second consecutive season. The most explosive offense in the NFL led the League with 70 total plays over 20 yards including an NFL-high 15 touchdowns. Kansas City also led the league in yards per play (5.85) and topped the NFL in eight other offensive categories. In 2004, the Chiefs led the NFL in total offense for the first time in franchise history, accumulating a franchise-record 6,695 yards or an average of 418.4 yards per game. In the process, Kansas City established an NFL record with 398 first downs, breaking the previous mark of 387 set by the ?84 Dolphins. The Chiefs also led the NFL in 24 different offensive categories, while tying or breaking 18 different single-season team records, including marks for offensive TDs (58), third-down conversion percentage (47.2 percent), most games with 400 or more yards of total offense (nine) and most consecutive 400-yard games (five). Under Saunders, the Chiefs received unprecedented production in the running game. Kansas City tied a 42-year-old NFL record by registering 63 rushing TDs over the 2003-04 seasons, a two-season mark originally established by the 1961-'62 Packers. The 2004 Chiefs owned the distinction of becoming the first team in League history to have three different running backs produce a 150-yard rushing game in a season and were the only NFL squad ever to rush for eight TDs in a League contest. While the Chiefs ground exploits are well-documented, Kansas City has also developed a prolific passing attack under Saunders' direction. In 2004, Trent Green boasted a franchise-high eight 300-yard passing games as Kansas City rolled up franchise records with 370 completions and 4,406 net passing yards. Kansas City also established team records with 228 passing first downs and an overall 65.95 completion percentage.

@KC MikeG A great example of the type of dynamic coach I pushing for. The next OC is the linch pin of the Chiefs future.

@laddiemorse@kc Just think how great we could have been with some defense. I don't think I'll ever forgive Carl for letting him go for Herm, of all people.

i thought wikipedia was blacked out today? nice reply mike @KC MikeG

@ArkansasChief@KC MikeG Thanks! I actually got it from ram clan.com who pulled the bio off the skins site. It should also be noted that he did it with Trent Green, who I loved and would like to see back in KC as a coach. Check out the following description of Trent Green: Classic Middle quarterback. Good, not great arm. Good, not great mobility. Good study. Good feel for the game. Sound familiar??

Point #3 is so critical - I remember how much fun our offense was under Saunders. Thanks again Carl for letting him go to the skins so we could get Herm - disastrous decision. Would love to have him back but isn't he from Oakland and likely to stay there? Lord Almighty - Look at his stats: a 10-year stint with the Chiefs as Assistant Head Coach/Wide Receivers Coach under then head coach Marty Schottenheimer from 1989-98. During that 10-year span, he was part of a Chiefs' coaching staff which helped guide Kansas City to three AFC West titles and seven playoff berths. In total, Saunders has been associated with 11 postseason appearances, five division crowns and a World Championship during his NFL tenure. Saunders was named USA Today's NFL Offensive Coach of the Year in 2005. In the five seasons with the Chiefs prior to joining the Redskins, Saunders presided over the NFL's most prolific scoring offense. During that span, no NFL team registered more points than the 2,157 accumulated by the Chiefs. In 2004, Kansas City scored 30+ points in five consecutive games, a first in team history. The Chiefs led the NFL in scoring in both 2002 and 2003, becoming the first AFC team to lead the league in scoring in back-to-back seasons since San Diego in 1981-82. During the 2003 season alone, the Chiefs piled up a franchise-record 484 points after registering a league-high 467 points in 2002. Dating back to 2001 when Saunders took over as offensive coordinator, the Chiefs ranked first in the NFL with 30,470 net yards of total offense (379.3 ypg). The Chiefs oppulent numbers during that 80-game span from 2001-05 are also the league's best in the following seven categories: offensive TDs (262), rushing TDs (131), total first downs (1,760), Red Zone TD percentage (64.1%), runs of 10+ yards (312), passing yards per attempt (7.83) and passing yards per completion (12.61).

Good article. 1. No way Carl over Pioli. 2. Love RGIII but worried about the cost/value ratio and his durability. Don't think we could trade up even if we wanted to as too many teams ahead of us already have him targeted. 3. Totally agree. I really like Zorn at QB coach but give me Saunders, Carmichael NO or Clements GB w/o Flynn (very limited play in the best offense reminds me of Cassel in NE). 4. Babb's full of it. If he has more to the story why didn't he make the scary football helmet smaller on the front page so he could get the "whole" story told? Media whore. 5. Like your picks plus Foles in the 2nd. 6. Agree Cassel is erratic, locks on (especially when there is only one WR - Bowe), not good at progressions/sometimes panics in the pocket (better OL helps to solve those), but in 2008 he was very consistent and in 2010 his lows and highs were both better than 2009 when he was the most sacked QB. I think he should have to earn it in camp but worry that Pioli won't allow it - be strong RAC. 7. and 8. Agreed. 9. Absolutely!

@KC MikeG Hey its not Carl over Pioli... It's Priest over Hali.

@laddiemorse@kc I would put Charles right up there with Priest. Hali or DJ over any 3 players combined. Pioli over Carl if for nothing else Carl letting Saunders go. Vereil over Crennel isn't fair since Crennel just got the job but I will say defense wins championships = SF top ranked D will win Super Bowl.

If more employees came out and spoke the truth, the real truth would come out. The "confidentiality agreement" is one more way of their scare tactic and intimidation. Do they really think people are that stupid? Wake up people and look at the all the "chiefs gospel" they have spread through their own personal media outlets! The Chiefs fans have been bamboozled by these guys! Take your team back! Stop letting them rule what you think and what you blog!!!!!!

@truthoffootball Lombardi... Who worked with Pioli in Cleveland said Pioli should have picked up the piece of trash as an example... To inspire his workers... Not make a fear based environment.

@laddiemorse@truthoffootball The candy bar wrapper is symbolic of the complete lack of concern and especially respect for the franchise that had become commonplace driving our team to the pathetic depths of 2008. Remember it wasn't just that no one cared enough to pick it up but also that someone else cared so little that they threw it down there in the 1st place. Pioli did end up picking it up. it's up to the employees to take the situation as an opportunity to change their attitude and get on board with the attention to detail and to strive for perfection or to miss the big picture by mocking it, being intimidated, fearful and running off at the mouth to Babb.

@KC MikeG@laddiemorse@truthoffootball Sorry but that is bull. Ever been in charge of something fairly large. The big boss cannot make a "teaching moment" of a candy wrapper. He may drag in some for a rear chewing but not a teaching moment. There is bigger picture and personnally handling menusia(sp?) is not the sign of an adequate leader.

@tm1946@KC MikeG@laddiemorse@truthoffootball minutiae

@dtaylor7@KC MikeG@laddiemorse@truthoffootball thanks

@tm1946@KC MikeG@laddiemorse@truthoffootball Saying sorry, but means you're not really sorry. Yes, I have and have worked for one of the most respected sales training organizations in the country. Symbolism is frequently used in changing behaviors and attitudes. The book "Who Moved My Cheese" distributed to help/convince us to get on board with the new management and to accept the downsizing effecting our coworkers and friends. Cornball story using mice and their cheese to get us to fall in line with the least amount of resistance. I think it was Del Rio who brought in an axe as a prop to use in his teachable moment" which ended up injuring his kicker. Corporations do way more teaching than chewing butt, in fact in all my years there I never saw anyone get yelled at - it completely undermines the loyalty of the troops and sets them up for litigation. The big picture is their lack of respect for the franchise and the ones that can only see the minutiae (candy bar wrapper) are the ones getting fired - big surprise - they still don't get the message even after losing their job.

@KC MikeG@tm1946@laddiemorse@truthoffootball As far as yelling at the girl for the parking space thing. Does anyone honestly think that was her first mistake. I'm not saying it was Piolis finest moment. However she could have been someone who makes bone head mistakes everyday and is boarder line incompetent, I'm on the quivering edge of going off on people like that everyday.

@truthoffootball That's right! Instead let Babb's gospel of fear preached through his personal media outlet guide (or is it bamboozled?) you to the "real truth" and don't stop letting him tell you what you think and what you blog!!!!!! Confidentiality agreements are standard operating procedure in the corporate world to protect information and are signed upon initial employment. Not while being interrogated at gun point upon being fired. In other words no one forced them to sign them. There's some "real truth" for you.

I normally agree with you but in this case it's only partially. I do agree that the cba abortion was miserable. I don't agree with ditching the better part of two drafts for a spread qb who may or may not be nfl good. I think drafting him would be great but I don't know that he's worth more than swapping firsts next years second and third. This draft doesn't have a slam dunk player worth two firsts.

How about this? Flynn is the best QB out there BUT he's a system QB. How about we hire Green Bay's QB coach Tom Clement's be our new OC and put Flynn in his system? A new OC will probably bring his own system in anyway and having your QB know it down pat could be awesome. Then draft: 1- RB Trent Richardson 2- OT Adams/Sanders 3- OG Zietler/Silatolu Now that could be a serious offense!

What's the possibility we could get you to replace Scott Pioli? IOW... I like it a lot.@otis8989

@otis8989 A lot of oohs and aahs, from your mouth to Clark's ear. I like it but how or what do we pay GB for Flynn

Just thought of this how do your choices change if Bowe and or Carr leave, do they change? Maybe we should get the best athlete available skipping K, P, or OLB? I say if Richardson from Ala is there, picture him and Charles sharing the runs in 2012.

Yea I've been thinking about Richardson and JC for awhile. That would be tough for any D to deal with.@tm1946

I enjoyed reading this very much. What a nice post! I agree with you 95% except for the Carl Peterson -Dick Vermeil preference, which makes me think you must have suffered a closed head injury. :-)

That cracked me up! Yes... my whole family has head injuries. You should see our family tree. LOL @Arrowhead Adventurer

I understand and agree that we have been skirting the 1st round on OL with the exception of Alberts. I'm just sayng if our need is a Right tackle, we don't need to spend our 1st pick on one. Geez, I haven't been on the Richardson with our 1st, but if we had Sanders and Keitler in the next 2 rounds? Damn that would be a major change in our offense!

I don't think I said we "have to" get a LT and move him to RT with our first round pick. I'd like to see us take an OT sometime in the first two rounds. I'm not thrilled about Sanders like you but, there is Osemele and the Adams from Ohio State... either one would be great from my scouting perspective. @otis8989

If we in fact need to address the O line then why would drafting a RB in the first round be ok?

Then we address OL in the second... and because drafting someone as Richardson actually makes the OL better. @ArrowFan

@laddiemorse That can work but haven't we been skirting around a first round O lineman for a few years now. Sure the best was always gone by our turn and we have been getting good players ( I should say in the last two drafts). I agree that the Alabama kid would be nice, but I would prefer one of the two top O-line, if we can get one.

@laddiemorse I would also like to add that I liked your post, good job.

I'm right with... and hey, thank for the kind words... always appreciated.@ArrowFan

I disagree with most of the article. Particulary that it is necessary to get an elite Left ackle in the 1st round. The effect in essence is getting a Right tackle as Alberts is fine. We need a Right tackle and a guard. Zebrie Sanders in the 2nd and a guard like Kevin Zeitler or Amini Silatulo in the 3rd accomplishes that and we haven't even used our 1st pick yet. If we trade back, wow ... add TE Dwayne Allen or RB Lamar Miller, NT Josh Champan, QB Branden Weeden ... well, you get the picture.

@otis8989 OK, but why would you want a QB about 2 years younger than Cassel. There has to be a better QB than that old a player.

I think it would be foolish to sell the farm for any player when we have so many needs. there is a big difference between a team like the Falcons that are solid at most positions who think they are short one player from going all the way and us. Now your idea of possibly moving down has some merit in my mind as I think if Weeden is possibly going in the 2nd round before our pick than moving to the bottom of the 1st or top of the second would be fine. We could get Weeden and maybe use the extra pick to build up the off line and depth at other positions. I personally like Glenn who is likely to be available at our 2nd pick. He can play both OG and OT making it possible to pick up either a OG or OT in the 3rd or 4th rd. Weeden is 29 but he is the QB that i think will be a quality starter sometime in his first year. And if we are truly interested in having a great offence, Al Saunders was the architect of the great offences under Vermiel.