Another Bold Prediction? Why Not?

by Chiefs

I would like to open today’s post with a brief statement. This will just take a moment…

I TOLD YOU SO.

Sure, I’m not usually the type of person to say, “I told you so,” precisely because when I make a rare prediction, it usually turns out not to be so. But six weeks ago today, I posted the following:

The Kansas City Chiefs will beat the Green Bay Packers.

That’s right. You read it here first…

The Chiefs will beat the Packers. How do I know this? The same way I am able to evaluate every other question raised during this up-and-down Chiefs season: I have no idea. But they will. And the Packers may very well be 13-0 by the time they visit Arrowhead on December 18… They may even be resting some starters. In any event, I don’t expect the Chiefs will be playing the spoiler in terms of Green Bay’s cruise back to the playoffs. But at least [the Packers] will leave here feeling rotten.

Perhaps you infer from my giddiness that I did not have the most confidence in my own prediction. Like I said, I don’t often get these things right. Clearly, the Kyle Orton Era in Kansas City has indeed lasted more than one minute, and now the discussion is whether it should and/or will last more than one season.

I won’t say I expected Sunday’s shocker, but I felt it was really possible, a gut feeling loosely supported by historical data. I had been thinking back to the Chiefs’ triumph over the then-reigning-champion Pittsburgh Steelers in 2009—a year in which KC only won three other games—which led me to do a little research. I found that, since 1979, the Chiefs had been 6-2 (now 7-2) at home against defending Super Bowl champs. So there.

But I certainly didn’t predict that by the time this game arrived the Chiefs would have lost their starting quarterback and then ditched their head coach—the two major developments that made the difference in this upset. This changes everything. Or, rather, everything has changed. From the first drive forward on Sunday, this felt like a new team (with the same, but improved defense).

I’ll let others continue the discussion about what these new circumstances on the sidelines and behind center might mean for the Chiefs into 2012 and beyond. For now, I just care about next week and the week after that. That’s right. I’m feeling overly optimistic again.*

*It’s sorta, like, my thing.

So I will double down and offer one more “bold” prediction: The Chiefs will win the AFC West.

Why not?

Frankly, as Patrick already pointed out yesterday, it’s not that crazy a proposition, and seemingly much more possible than what we just saw happen on Sunday. The Chiefs may not control their own destiny, but with games against the Raiders and the Broncos, they will have a relatively large say in it. And if Tebow and His Disciples can just trip up in Buffalo and Norval Turner’s boys can have one bad day* in Detroit, then the Chiefs will, essentially, already be in the playoffs, starting with the AFC West Championship Game at INVESCO Mile High. (The whole Kyle-Orton-comes-back-to-claim-what-is-rightfully-his storyline will be a nice subplot.)

*I’m still annoyed at the Baltimore Ravens for putting up one of the worst defensive efforts in their post-Browns history this Sunday at San Diego; the Chargers should have already been removed from this discussion.

As I’ve shared this optimism with some family and friends, I’ve gotten a little pushback, mostly in one of two forms:

1) “Shhh. Don’t jinx it.”

Hey, I’m flattered, and I hold AA in the highest esteem, but “Quick Slant” ain’t the Sports Illustrated cover.*

*Sure was glad to see Tim Tebow on there this past week.

2) “There’s no point in making the playoffs at 8-8, because who wants another one-and-done playoff run.”

First of all, ignoring the recent example of the 7-9 2010 Seattle Seahawks (and the only fans wishing they hadn’t made the playoffs are Saints fans), the 8-8 2011 AFC West Champion Chiefs would host a playoff game. Who doesn’t want that?

And they wouldn’t be 8-8, really—they’d be 3-0 in this new “interim” phase, and one of the hottest teams in the NFL. This won’t be Herm’s “Let’s-don’t-get-this-thing-twisted-and-think-we-backed-into-this-deal” team from the 2006 season. No, Crennel’s Crew would be a dangerous sensation.

And the Chiefs’ most likely (in this unlikely scenario) Wild Card opponent would be the Pittsburgh Steelers, lead by a hobbled—and, of course, unattractive and foul-smelling—Ben Roethlisberger. This is a team that the Chiefs already almost beat with despite Tyler Palko masquerading as quarterback, and against Roethlisberger when he was merely banged-up, unattractive, and foul-smelling.

But…that’s all a couple weeks away anyway. Mostly, I’m just feeling grateful that with two games left in the regular season, the Chiefs are still playing for immediate dividends, no matter how improbable. The mission is clear. The Chiefs will take care of the Raiders—something, it must always be said, is a moral duty regardless of any other implications. Meanwhile, for one afternoon, we will put our hopes in the hands of the Buffalo Bills and the Detroit Lions. It is somewhat poetic that the two teams that had all but ended the Chiefs’ season before it began, back in September, now hold the power to extend it.

Best of all, now that we’ve knocked off the defending NFL champs, we can sit back and enjoy football on these last two holiday weekends, since there’s really nothing to lose. And a division to win.

And when the Chiefs do, remember who told you so.

 

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Nice Victor. I said the same thing two weeks prior to Thanksgiving. I told my roommate and a couple of friends if the Pack left Thanksgiving with their undefeated streak in tact, Our beloved Chiefs would end that streak if they came to arrowhead 13-0. Of course I NEVER expected it to happen without Haley or Cassel and Orton running the offense.with Crennel holding two coaching hats. Also, I give props to all who have come to Victor's aid against the moronic Collins idiot.

Wow. I’m flattered that so many of you are giving this post so much attention, and have added much by bringing in facts and statistics and analysis of the Broncos and Bills that I was too lazy to provide. Of course, a special shout-out to JasonCollins for selflessly sacrificing civility and his own credibility from the start to get this discussion going. “You are liar.” Brilliant. Thanks, JC. And thanks to everyone for reading. And caring. Go Chiefs!

While all Chiefs fan are overjoyed at the win over Green Bay, the "I told you so" comments are getting old, so how abpout all the people making the cheap talk predictions also tell us what they will do if they are wrong. Like, If I am wrong I will take a dip in the North Town fountain at 1 pm the day after the game.

@Jmac Sure as long as all of the "Suck for Luck fans" step up and eat their crow - funny haven't seen a single one yet.

Well I hope you're right. I'm not real confident in Buffalo beating Denver... but... I didn't expect Denver to beat San Diego when they last met either so who knows.

If you say something is going to happen without stating why it will happen... it's a guess. This article should be entitled, "I guessed it right 6 weeks ago because I had a gut feeling. Another bold guess." have any of you seen denvers D play? It's as good as the chiefs. Buffalo is going to get killed... If it happens, I am happy crennel is there to coach into the playoffs. I just wouldn't be hopeful , or listen to a football profit who guesses.

Buffalo may get killed, but I don't think so. Win or lose it should be close. Denver hasn't exactly been running away with games with Tebow under center. Three point wins over Chicago, Minnesota, and San Diego don't give me confidence in Denver's blowout capabilities or your prediction. Buffalo can beat Denver. Any given Sunday as they say. It's impossible to be 100% sure about any NFL game. That's why predictions are fun. Don't forget it's supposed to be fun. Calm down a bit, man.

@Erich Everyone of the donkeys wins has been by 2-7 points except for one huge 14 "point blow" out of the faiders. Let's go bills!!

@KC MikeG@Erich That wasn't huge... trhe 28 point shut out was huge... who did that again? Oh yeah it was the Chiefs D!

@JasonCollins We will all be holding you accountable if the donkeys kill the bills due to your bold guess. The following isnot a guess - just the facts. The donkeys D is NOT as good as ours - KC Pass D #9 vs donkeys #20 and their run D allows an avg of 2 more points a game with only 25 fewer yards allowed and is only ranked four positions higher than ours. Total yards we are #16 and they are #22. Int's we are tied for #4 vs. donkeys #26. scoring KC #22 vs #24. We are tied for TD's allowed and they have 12 more sacks. Victor never claimed to be a "Prophet" or Nostradamus but he did make the correct prediction and deserves to be acknowledged for it not played semantics by you. Synonyms for predict at Thesaurus.com with free online thesaurus, antonyms, and definitions. ... forebode, forecast, foresee, forespeak, foretell, gather, guess...

@JasonCollins Guess, prediction.... it's semantics man... every prediction is just a guess wrapped up in a fancy package some more obvious than others.

Dear Santa, this year for Christmas I want to be as rilidiculously awesome as Jason Collins.

Here's my issue with this article. 6 weeks ago you predicted this? That was before the chiefs became the worst team in the nfl. It's like my cousin who predicts every play that Hali will get a sack. When Hali does, he yells, "I called it!" I am a football genius! There is nothing in anyone's gut that could predict the chiefs winning that game, unless their gut was full of barley and hops and their head was full of canibus. The chiefs are a talented team, that has coach that lets the his coaches coach. They will be a better team in the future. I hope they keep crennel, not because they one. Because he is a real coach... If you want to see a real prediction, check me out on fb two nights before the game when I posted, the chiefs had a chance against GB because their pass defense would give Rogers fits. And I threw down a wager of 250 the chiefs would win out right. I was ridiculed for my prediction. I have a bold prediction, broncos are going to the playoffs because buffalo sucks without Fred Jackson and are going to get destroyed by Von miller, who is a beast. I have a thousand on that game. Any takers???? Hey, I predict that it will snow in Canada this year. I have a gut feeling.

did you click on the link in the article tht leads to where victor predicted this win? Saying something is going to happen before it happens is the definition of prediction.

@JasonCollins Chiefs are not, and have not been the worst team in the NFL this year. Rams, Colts, Panthers, Vikings are all worse than the Chiefs, at any point during this season. Shouldn't matter of the circumstances on WHEN it was predicted. It's not like the Chiefs beating the Packers was inevitable like the example you give of your cousin predicting Hali sacks. Totally different. As the season has progressed, really NO ONE was expected to the beat the Packers. So, I don't really understand your logic. There also no reason to be rude. You can disagree with someone without being disrespectful.

@JasonCollins You seem angry. And while I appreciate others coming to my defense with the full authority of the dictionary and basic chronological facts (I did write what I wrote only hours after the Chiefs had been drubbed at home by the previously winless Dolphins), if your argument is that my prediction wasn’t very bold, I would agree with you—I even put “bold” in quotes, then and now. But that’s not really the point. My post six weeks ago wasn’t about ME and MY prediction, any more than today’s is. If you’ve read any of my other posts on AA—or, for that matter, this one—I think you would get a sense that my M.O. here is generally to try and lighten the mood. In the case of your mood, I have apparently failed miserably. I apologize for that. But thanks again for reading and responding.

@Big Jim lol, great word!

@JasonCollins Buffalo sucks without Fred Jackson. Do you watch Bills games or just pull this stuff out of your ass? The game CJ Spiller had last week was a better all around performance than Jackson had for them all season. George Wilson being out had more to do with their downturn than Jackson. They started losing long before Jackson went on IR. Fun fact, the Bills have not won a game this year George Wilson didn't play. By the way, since your obviously just suffering from diarrhea of the mouth, and obviously have no football knowledge, common sense, or decency, ill let you know... George Wilson is the Bills safety. Next time watch more then 30 seconds of ESPN before you come on here and pretend to know what you are talking about.

@Gjrchief@JasonCollins Plus 3 out of the last 4 games the have lost have been by 6 points or less. No blow out coming from the deflated donkeys travelling to the east coast on Saturday.

@JasonCollins Worst team in the NFL?? Are you even a fan of the Chiefs?? If so you might want to bone up on some facts before you post again. There are 12 of the 32 teams with the same (1) and 11 with worse records than us and another 7 teams with just ONE more win. Plus we just beat the best team in the NFL so that hardly qualifies us as the worst now does it? Victor didn't predict every week that we would win so your cousin comparison is bogus. He didn't predict that we would beat NE or the Steelers (even though we almost did). He Predicted that we would beat GB but also that they would be 13-0. So you were ridiculed for your "prediction" yet felt it was your duty to judge Victor's? Too bad you weren't smart enough to take your $250 and be happy. Should have put the $1,000 on the snow. A fool and his money are soon parted. Bills take down the donkeys.

@JasonCollins Wow you got a chip on your shoulder or something? He said he doesn't make many predictions.... he said he usually predicts wrong, he then said he happened to get this one right. He is pretty humble about it actually. I could understand if he was acting like cock o the walk... "Oh yeah I guessed it I'm a football predicting God" but this is even close to that.... seriously lighten up.

Very very cool prediction Wishna! Wow...

Hmmm....You don't seem near the looney toon that I thought of you a few months ago. :)

You are liar. You didn't predict anything.

@JasonCollins Thanks for reading!

@JasonCollins You are liar. You are liar. Hmm..something just isn't right here.

@JasonCollins Why are you such a bitter fool? Why can't you just celebrate along with the fans here? Victor very clearly stated that most of his predictions don't come true so he wanted to savor and share the moment when such an accurate major one is realized. Obviously everyone posting is trying to get through to you yet you continue to embarrass yourself.

Be forewarned Jason that KC MikeG is our resident pit bull. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Big Jim GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

@KC MikeG@Big Jim By default a Chiefs fan who always picks them to win will always have called it when they upset someone. I called it this week as well :)

i agree, i say Kc will win the west and will host Pitt and BEAT Pitt! the Lions are to good for the chargers...(thats a lot of first round picks..just saying) but i think Denver will beat the Bills..which sucks but hey we've seen crazier things happen *Cough* Kc 19 GB 14 *Cough* Merry Christmas! Go Chiefs!

I think this is very possible, and I am so excited about the possibility of this happening!!! I do think the Chiefs can win the next two games. I do think Chargers will get beat by the Lions. I am just not sure if the Bills will beat Denver. I REALLY want it to happen, but man, the Bills suck. They do have home field advantage, and Tebow is probably a little stunned that God didn't grant him the win over the Pats, so just maybe the Bills can pull off the upset. I hope they do us a favor and trample them donkeys! On a side note, I got surprised with tickets to the game this week, YAY!!!! Merry Christmas to all!

MichaelShaw 73 pts

Nice Victor. I said the same thing two weeks prior to Thanksgiving. I told my roommate and a couple of friends if the Pack left Thanksgiving with their undefeated streak in tact, Our beloved Chiefs would end that streak if they came to arrowhead 13-0. Of course I NEVER expected it to happen without Haley or Cassel and Orton running the offense.with Crennel holding two coaching hats.

Also, I give props to all who have come to Victor's aid against the moronic Collins idiot.

Victor74 25 pts

Wow. I’m flattered that so many of you are giving this post so much attention, and have added much by bringing in facts and statistics and analysis of the Broncos and Bills that I was too lazy to provide.

Of course, a special shout-out to JasonCollins for selflessly sacrificing civility and his own credibility from the start to get this discussion going. “You are liar.” Brilliant. Thanks, JC.

And thanks to everyone for reading. And caring. Go Chiefs!

Jmac 5 pts

While all Chiefs fan are overjoyed at the win over Green Bay, the "I told you so" comments are getting old, so how abpout all the people making the cheap talk predictions also tell us what they will do if they are wrong. Like, If I am wrong I will take a dip in the North Town fountain at 1 pm the day after the game.

KC MikeG 320 pts

Jmac

Sure as long as all of the "Suck for Luck fans" step up and eat their crow - funny haven't seen a single one yet.

kcfanintx 72 pts

Well I hope you're right. I'm not real confident in Buffalo beating Denver... but... I didn't expect Denver to beat San Diego when they last met either so who knows.

JasonCollins 5 pts

If you say something is going to happen without stating why it will happen... it's a guess. This article should be entitled, "I guessed it right 6 weeks ago because I had a gut feeling. Another bold guess." have any of you seen denvers D play? It's as good as the chiefs. Buffalo is going to get killed... If it happens, I am happy crennel is there to coach into the playoffs. I just wouldn't be hopeful , or listen to a football profit who guesses.

Erich 123 pts

Buffalo may get killed, but I don't think so. Win or lose it should be close. Denver hasn't exactly been running away with games with Tebow under center. Three point wins over Chicago, Minnesota, and San Diego don't give me confidence in Denver's blowout capabilities or your prediction. Buffalo can beat Denver.

Any given Sunday as they say. It's impossible to be 100% sure about any NFL game. That's why predictions are fun. Don't forget it's supposed to be fun. Calm down a bit, man.

KC MikeG 320 pts

Erich

Everyone of the donkeys wins has been by 2-7 points except for one huge 14 "point blow" out of the faiders. Let's go bills!!

kcfanintx 72 pts

KC MikeGErich That wasn't huge... trhe 28 point shut out was huge... who did that again? Oh yeah it was the Chiefs D!

KC MikeG 320 pts

JasonCollins

We will all be holding you accountable if the donkeys kill the bills due to your bold guess. The following isnot a guess - just the facts. The donkeys D is NOT as good as ours - KC Pass D #9 vs donkeys #20 and their run D allows an avg of 2 more points a game with only 25 fewer yards allowed and is only ranked four positions higher than ours. Total yards we are #16 and they are #22. Int's we are tied for #4 vs. donkeys #26. scoring KC #22 vs #24. We are tied for TD's allowed and they have 12 more sacks. Victor never claimed to be a "Prophet" or Nostradamus but he did make the correct prediction and deserves to be acknowledged for it not played semantics by you. Synonyms for predict at Thesaurus.com with free online thesaurus, antonyms, and definitions. ... forebode, forecast, foresee, forespeak, foretell, gather, guess...

kcfanintx 72 pts

JasonCollins Guess, prediction.... it's semantics man... every prediction is just a guess wrapped up in a fancy package some more obvious than others.

big chief 151 pts

Dear Santa, this year for Christmas I want to be as rilidiculously awesome as Jason Collins.

JasonCollins 5 pts

Here's my issue with this article. 6 weeks ago you predicted this? That was before the chiefs became the worst team in the nfl. It's like my cousin who predicts every play that Hali will get a sack. When Hali does, he yells, "I called it!" I am a football genius! There is nothing in anyone's gut that could predict the chiefs winning that game, unless their gut was full of barley and hops and their head was full of canibus. The chiefs are a talented team, that has coach that lets the his coaches coach. They will be a better team in the future. I hope they keep crennel, not because they one. Because he is a real coach... If you want to see a real prediction, check me out on fb two nights before the game when I posted, the chiefs had a chance against GB because their pass defense would give Rogers fits. And I threw down a wager of 250 the chiefs would win out right. I was ridiculed for my prediction. I have a bold prediction, broncos are going to the playoffs because buffalo sucks without Fred Jackson and are going to get destroyed by Von miller, who is a beast. I have a thousand on that game. Any takers???? Hey, I predict that it will snow in Canada this year. I have a gut feeling.

Erich 123 pts

did you click on the link in the article tht leads to where victor predicted this win? Saying something is going to happen before it happens is the definition of prediction.

Chiefsfan7 93 pts

JasonCollins Chiefs are not, and have not been the worst team in the NFL this year. Rams, Colts, Panthers, Vikings are all worse than the Chiefs, at any point during this season.

Shouldn't matter of the circumstances on WHEN it was predicted. It's not like the Chiefs beating the Packers was inevitable like the example you give of your cousin predicting Hali sacks. Totally different. As the season has progressed, really NO ONE was expected to the beat the Packers. So, I don't really understand your logic.

There also no reason to be rude. You can disagree with someone without being disrespectful.