The Curse Of Todd Blackledge

by Armchair Addict

I’m not going to talk about the game last night. I’m not going to talk about the amazing defensive effort or the three interceptions thrown by Tyler Palko. No, I’m going to talk about the big picture outlook of the Chiefs QB situation. Last week the Kansas City Chiefs followed the same MO they have used for the better part of the last 30 years (and perhaps the entire history of this franchise) when it comes to their QB position, they signed a veteran free agent.

Now don’t get me wrong, when you just look at the Kyle Orton signing on its own, it’s fine. By this point, the pros and cons have all been spelled out both here at AA and all over the Internet and talk radio. I think the zero TDs and SIX INTs thrown by Tyler Palko in his two starts show that the Orton signing is at least worth a shot, but I want to talk bigger picture.

Now when I say bigger picture I don’t just mean looking forward to next season. That’s part of it, but I really want to scale back and look all the way back to 1983 when the Chiefs drafted Todd Blackledge in the first round of the NFL draft. That’s the last time the Chiefs really made a true investment in drafting and developing their own QB.

For those younger fans that may not know anything about the history of this club, to put it simply, Blackledge was a HUGE bust. It was in part because of his poor play, but even more so because of the QBs the Chiefs passed over to take him (namely Dan Marino and Jim Kelly).

That failed pick doomed then team president Jack Steadman who was replaced by Carl Peterson and would curse the Chiefs QB situation to this day.

I’ll give you the gory details after the jump:

Now if you want to take the time to argue that the Chiefs QB situation hasn’t been cursed because of the likes of Steve DeBerg, Trent Green, and of course Joe Montana, that’s fine. Those players certainly gave this team some great memories and some good offenses (just no Super Bowls).

That doesn’t change the fact that most Super Bowl champs are lead by a franchise QB that they drafted and developed. If you look back at the last 20 Super Bowl winners, 15 of them were led by QBs that they drafted. Two of the ones that were not drafted by their team (Brett Favre and Kurt Warner) still would fall under the banner of players developed by the team they won with. So really only 3 free agent QBs (Drew Brees, Brad Johnson, and Trent Dilfer) have won Super Bowls in the last 20 years. That means 85% of Super Bowls are won by QBs that the team developed. The curse of Todd Blackledge has prevented that from happening in KC.

In actuality, it isn’t really a curse as much it has been the Chiefs being afraid to make that commitment again and get it wrong. So instead they have tried to get by with free agents and trading for other teams’ backups. Now that does not mean they haven’t tried to draft QBs since taking Blackledge in the first round, they have. They’ve just tried to find a “diamond in the rough” by investing mid- to late-round picks that don’t put the GM’s job on the line.

You want to know how bad the Chiefs have been at it?

The last game Blackledge started was the second game of the 1987 season. The next time a QB that the Chiefs drafted would start a game for the team would be in the 11th game of the 2007 season when Brodie Croyle started his first game.

That’s right KC fans, Brodie Croyle is the BEST QB the Chiefs have drafted since Todd Blackledge 28 years ago.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Now let’s set aside the QBs they drafted that weren’t good enough to start a game. We’ll get back to them in a minute.

First, I just want to stop and think about just how long the Chiefs went without starting a QB that they drafted. Between Blackledge’s final start and Croyle’s first, the Chiefs played 339 games over 21 seasons. That is just staggering if you think about it. I don’t have it in me to try and find this out, but I would have to imagine that that’s the longest streak by any NFL team ever. I have nothing to back that up other than my own sheer amazement at how many games that is.

So just in case you’re thinking that this streak is the product of the Chiefs not drafting a single QB at all, here’s the impressive list of the QBs they’ve drafted since Todd Blackledge.

Doug Hudson – Nichols State – 1987 – 7th round

Danny McManus – Florida State – 1988 – 11th round

Mike Elkins – Wake Forest – 1989 – 2nd round

Matt Blundin – Virginia – 1992 – 2nd round

Steve Matthews – Memphis – 1994 – 7th round

Steve Stenstrom – Stanford – 1995 – 4th round

Pat Barnes – California – 1997 – 4th round

James Kilian – Tulsa – 2005 – 7th round

Brodie Croyle – Alabama – 2006 – 3rd round

Ricky Stanzi – Iowa – 2011 – 5th round

Quite the list, huh?

We won’t count Stanzi since he hasn’t really had a chance yet. The other nine are total failures. Three of them never attempted a pass in the NFL (McManus, Barnes, and Kilian). Four of them only saw limited snaps (Hudson, Elkins, Blundin, and Matthews). The only ones to get any real playing time were Croyle and Stenstrom (with the Bears).

These players combined career stats are:

389-688 (56.5%) for 3,883 yards (5.6 YPA) with 12 TDs and 24 INTs.

Bottom line, the Chiefs haven’t invested in a big time QB prospect since they drafted Blackledge 28 years ago and they have done a HORRIBLE job of finding someone in the middle to late rounds as well.

It is time for Scott Pioli to do something about this. It is time for him to break the curse of Todd Blackledge that still hangs over this franchise. It appears that the Chiefs will be in a position to draft a real QB prospect in this year’s NFL draft. Pioli shouldn’t let Kyle Orton, Matt Cassel, Todd Blackledge, or a history of bad QB picks stand in his way.

I pray that Scott Pioli is brave enough to make that pick. Otherwise we will need to go looking for a new GM before we can ever hope to break the curse of Todd Blackledge.

As always, thanks for reading and GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!

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The thing is if we don't fill the LB and OL we won't get anywhere anyway, yes the QB is important, but Casel can be good ( and we have seen some great moments) if he has ample protection, that would go for any QB, the Vikings gave Rogers hell the first half of there game, but when the OL steped up, well we all know how that ended, we were killed by the Ravens because they beat us on the line, I would like to see us with a higher standard QB of course, because I believe Casel cannot carry this team, but if we can't get to one priority in deed is the line, offense and defense, what say you nation?!

@med8tr0n Agreed that both lines are of the utmost importance, the O-line in particular. Let's say that each team has eight members on the O-line. That is a total of 256 players, not including tight ends. Unless you are a serious follower of multiple teams, you probably can't name more than a few players outside of your own team unless they have been successful for several years. My point is, that there are a heck of a lot more NFL linemen available that can fill a need than there are elite QBs. If Matt Barkley, or Landry Jones, or any of the other top three or four college QBs is available when we draft, say at 7th, do we opt for that "can't miss right guard", (please excuse Richardson) or get the guy that may be under center for the next 15 years? I don't believe that there is any other option except to take the QB. Linemen, as has been shown, can be had at many spots that can help the Chiefs with one or two years of experience. Yeah, I know, Pioli blew up two first round picks, in Jackson and Dorsey. But if you look at many of the players on both sides, and check there status at draft time, you will find that most of them were well back of rounds two through five. These are guys that are not skill players, e.g. QB, wideout, running back. Even tackles have been taken in the later rounds and had great success. Check it out, and I believe that you will find a large group of O-linemen that were mid-level picks. A team does not need an all-pro to be able to protect his signal caller or knock a D-lineman out of your backs running lanes. And, if you find a really mobile QB, then you have a great advantage to a guy like say Peyton Manning, or Matt Cassel, who aren't as athletic as say, Brett Favre in his prime. Well, you asked and that is how I see it. As Samuel L. Jackson said in "Pulp Fiction". "Oh well, Let me retort". So. What is your retort?

@RICK TORREY@med8tr0n I can't say I'd be disappointed if we took a Jones or Barkley. But look at P Manning when he's pressured, or Sam Bradford. Or the Chiefs in the mid-2000s. KC had been so good at running the ball with anyone; then we let Tait go, our O line started to age, and we all know what precipitated thereafter. A strong, young O line can solidify a team for years, and make the initiation of a young qb a heck of a lot quicker. Of course, I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "can't miss" draft pick.

I didn't know the history that far back. I have only been a Chiefs fan since 1994. I do belive that we have enough young talent on the team to risk trading a high percentage of our picks to get the best QB in the draft.

really great read Lyle. and nice research on this one. i don't have the patience to look it all up, but thinking back i cant remember a first round pick before Johnny Baldwin that went to a, (skill), position. i may be wrong, i do have a terrible memory, but thinking back we usually pass up great players to put someone on the defense. not that i would ever regret picking Hali, or Johnson. it just seems that they are as you say.........safer picks for a scared Pioli. its high time we went and grabbed someone that will make an impact on the offense of this team! oh wait, there was that Bowe fella wasn't there. that kinda blows some big holes in my argument. oh well whatever, the point is that we do need to take a big chance and draft a big name QB and develop him into a KC pedigree winner. so i guess i'm just agreeing with you. uummmmm keep up the good work, and ill make some more irrelevant comments again next time my fingers feel like a good workout. as always GO CHIEFS!!! fan for life gangstas!

Thanks for the comments guys. Sorry I haven't been around to respond like I normally would. Unfortunately I'm sick as a dog.

That's a long list of nuthin'. Only criticism is that I was hoping to see a "zombie Blackledge." Nice post.

I have a sick feeling in my stomach that we're stuck with Cassel in 2012.

dang nice post, i was just thinking along these lines... Palko inherited that ghost when he stepped on the field. He is like almost every quarterback for the chiefs i have ever seen....spotty. you can tell the difference, maybe not in the numbers but certainly by watching, between a spotty QB and a zinger. when was the last time we actually had a quarterback that amazed you once in a while.

Your correct its very annoying to have that kinda draft selection record. I do wish the Chiefs would take more chances on QB's with their early draft picks. I also believe they need to farm QB's better and give the new draft picks more playing time. They are a little too conservative on who they allow to play the QB position. With the amount of int's Palko's hucking I would have played Stanzi at the very least.

I wasnt even going to read this article but I'm glad I did. I totally agree with you. You can save yourself from a bust and they have with the Orton pick up. Someone could sit behind him for a year and get ready. Orton isnt elite but he's not as bad as Matt Cassel either. I still think they should have let Stanzi go in after the third turnover yesterday though. DRAFT A QB PLEASE!!!!!

@Danny W I'll let Orton play a game or so as a Chief before I pass final judgement, but as of now I disagree. Cassel and Orton are similar except Orton is far less mobile. With our O line mobility is a plus. Right now I give Cassel the edge. My personal opinion.

Doubt Pioli is going anywhere for at least 5 more years, so to break the curse of the todd, what do we have to do? kill a chicken or hire a hit? Just saying, forget Todd, and hope our valued GM gets his head out of where he has lodged it and starts earning his pay.

Santa, for Christmas I want Landry Jones and a line that can keep him standing.

I'm not a pro scout, just a guy who's being watching football for over 45 years. Landry Jones to my eye just doesn't impress me as a good pro prospect. Of the all the B12 QBs I like RG3. @big chief

@moyerpj RG3 is good but he's more Michael Vick hybrid type than pure qb. History shows that you won't win a superbowl with a great athlete playing qb instead of a great qb. With all due trspect to Andrew Luck, Landry Jones is the most accurate and consistent qb in college ball. He's also played better against high level competition.

The Blackledge pick did not doom Steadman; he hung around for years, even though he was technically replaced as president by Peterson. The pick arguably resulted in GM Schaaf's demise, since he was fired and replaced by Peterson. It is ironic because Schaaf wanted to pick Marino and head coach Mackovic insisted on Blackledge.

Clean house. All QBs gone. (maybe save Stanzi) Richardson gone. Pioli gone. Muir and Hoffman gone. Dorsey gone. Jones... oh yeah... totally gone. Have some balls and draft a QB from... say... OSU, USC, Baylor, Stanford... etc. Then go get a new RT, NT and DE. Superbowl bound.

@her3ma1 Please, please could we throw in Becht, OConnel, and, pick one, Lilja or Weigman. If Pioli decides to keep Bowe, how about McCluster and get a normal sized RB. Pretty Please.

@her3ma1 If Pioli does not get a first rate QB to go along with the rest of the talent they have on offense, this team is in real trouble. But knowing the way the Chiefs operate, I would be very surprised if they pick a QB in the first or even second round. They have a lot of holes to fill along both lines, and I don't see them changing the way they have done business for almost three decades. I know that Pioli is new, but the owner isn't. If you take a look at somes of the other teams, like the Vikings, Bengals and Panthers, they have decided to let the team come together with a rookie QB, and if you look deep enough, they all are making strides, especially Dalton. In times past, you let the rookie sit for three or more years and learn the system. Not any more. If the Chiefs take a high round pick at the position, that does not guarantee that he will start right away, so with Cassel, Orton and Stanzi, I still don't see a high pick at the position. And with Stanzi having Zero experience, Palko, sadly, will stay for the remainder of the season.

med8tr0n 6 pts

The thing is if we don't fill the LB and OL we won't get anywhere anyway, yes the QB is important, but Casel can be good ( and we have seen some great moments) if he has ample protection, that would go for any QB, the Vikings gave Rogers hell the first half of there game, but when the OL steped up, well we all know how that ended, we were killed by the Ravens because they beat us on the line, I would like to see us with a higher standard QB of course, because I believe Casel cannot carry this team, but if we can't get to one priority in deed is the line, offense and defense, what say you nation?!

RICK TORREY 52 pts

med8tr0n Agreed that both lines are of the utmost importance, the O-line in particular. Let's say that each team has eight members on the O-line. That is a total of 256 players, not including tight ends. Unless you are a serious follower of multiple teams, you probably can't name more than a few players outside of your own team unless they have been successful for several years. My point is, that there are a heck of a lot more NFL linemen available that can fill a need than there are elite QBs. If Matt Barkley, or Landry Jones, or any of the other top three or four college QBs is available when we draft, say at 7th, do we opt for that "can't miss right guard", (please excuse Richardson) or get the guy that may be under center for the next 15 years? I don't believe that there is any other option except to take the QB. Linemen, as has been shown, can be had at many spots that can help the Chiefs with one or two years of experience. Yeah, I know, Pioli blew up two first round picks, in Jackson and Dorsey. But if you look at many of the players on both sides, and check there status at draft time, you will find that most of them were well back of rounds two through five. These are guys that are not skill players, e.g. QB, wideout, running back. Even tackles have been taken in the later rounds and had great success. Check it out, and I believe that you will find a large group of O-linemen that were mid-level picks. A team does not need an all-pro to be able to protect his signal caller or knock a D-lineman out of your backs running lanes. And, if you find a really mobile QB, then you have a great advantage to a guy like say Peyton Manning, or Matt Cassel, who aren't as athletic as say, Brett Favre in his prime. Well, you asked and that is how I see it. As Samuel L. Jackson said in "Pulp Fiction". "Oh well, Let me retort". So. What is your retort?

sidibeke 259 pts

RICK TORREYmed8tr0n I can't say I'd be disappointed if we took a Jones or Barkley. But look at P Manning when he's pressured, or Sam Bradford. Or the Chiefs in the mid-2000s. KC had been so good at running the ball with anyone; then we let Tait go, our O line started to age, and we all know what precipitated thereafter. A strong, young O line can solidify a team for years, and make the initiation of a young qb a heck of a lot quicker.

Of course, I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "can't miss" draft pick.

BradCurrie 5 pts

I didn't know the history that far back. I have only been a Chiefs fan since 1994. I do belive that we have enough young talent on the team to risk trading a high percentage of our picks to get the best QB in the draft.

G-mon3y 8 pts

really great read Lyle. and nice research on this one. i don't have the patience to look it all up, but thinking back i cant remember a first round pick before Johnny Baldwin that went to a, (skill), position. i may be wrong, i do have a terrible memory, but thinking back we usually pass up great players to put someone on the defense. not that i would ever regret picking Hali, or Johnson. it just seems that they are as you say.........safer picks for a scared Pioli. its high time we went and grabbed someone that will make an impact on the offense of this team! oh wait, there was that Bowe fella wasn't there. that kinda blows some big holes in my argument. oh well whatever, the point is that we do need to take a big chance and draft a big name QB and develop him into a KC pedigree winner. so i guess i'm just agreeing with you. uummmmm keep up the good work, and ill make some more irrelevant comments again next time my fingers feel like a good workout. as always GO CHIEFS!!! fan for life gangstas!

LyleGraversen 313 pts

Thanks for the comments guys. Sorry I haven't been around to respond like I normally would. Unfortunately I'm sick as a dog.

sidibeke 259 pts

That's a long list of nuthin'. Only criticism is that I was hoping to see a "zombie Blackledge."

Nice post.

moyerpj 72 pts

I have a sick feeling in my stomach that we're stuck with Cassel in 2012.

a_train 12 pts

dang nice post, i was just thinking along these lines... Palko inherited that ghost when he stepped on the field. He is like almost every quarterback for the chiefs i have ever seen....spotty. you can tell the difference, maybe not in the numbers but certainly by watching, between a spotty QB and a zinger. when was the last time we actually had a quarterback that amazed you once in a while.

hellno187 5 pts

Your correct its very annoying to have that kinda draft selection record. I do wish the Chiefs would take more chances on QB's with their early draft picks. I also believe they need to farm QB's better and give the new draft picks more playing time. They are a little too conservative on who they allow to play the QB position. With the amount of int's Palko's hucking I would have played Stanzi at the very least.

Danny W 137 pts

I wasnt even going to read this article but I'm glad I did. I totally agree with you. You can save yourself from a bust and they have with the Orton pick up. Someone could sit behind him for a year and get ready. Orton isnt elite but he's not as bad as Matt Cassel either. I still think they should have let Stanzi go in after the third turnover yesterday though. DRAFT A QB PLEASE!!!!!

Erich 123 pts

danny W I'll let Orton play a game or so as a Chief before I pass final judgement, but as of now I disagree. Cassel and Orton are similar except Orton is far less mobile. With our O line mobility is a plus. Right now I give Cassel the edge. My personal opinion.

tm1946 183 pts

Doubt Pioli is going anywhere for at least 5 more years, so to break the curse of the todd, what do we have to do? kill a chicken or hire a hit? Just saying, forget Todd, and hope our valued GM gets his head out of where he has lodged it and starts earning his pay.

big chief 151 pts

Santa, for Christmas I want Landry Jones and a line that can keep him standing.

moyerpj 72 pts

I'm not a pro scout, just a guy who's being watching football for over 45 years. Landry Jones to my eye just doesn't impress me as a good pro prospect. Of the all the B12 QBs I like RG3. big chief

big chief 151 pts

moyerpj RG3 is good but he's more Michael Vick hybrid type than pure qb. History shows that you won't win a superbowl with a great athlete playing qb instead of a great qb. With all due trspect to Andrew Luck, Landry Jones is the most accurate and consistent qb in college ball. He's also played better against high level competition.

KC Oracle 68 pts

The Blackledge pick did not doom Steadman; he hung around for years, even though he was technically replaced as president by Peterson. The pick arguably resulted in GM Schaaf's demise, since he was fired and replaced by Peterson. It is ironic because Schaaf wanted to pick Marino and head coach Mackovic insisted on Blackledge.

her3ma1 11 pts

Clean house. All QBs gone. (maybe save Stanzi) Richardson gone. Pioli gone. Muir and Hoffman gone. Dorsey gone. Jones... oh yeah... totally gone. Have some balls and draft a QB from... say... OSU, USC, Baylor, Stanford... etc. Then go get a new RT, NT and DE. Superbowl bound.

tm1946 183 pts

her3ma1

Please, please could we throw in Becht, OConnel, and, pick one, Lilja or Weigman. If Pioli decides to keep Bowe, how about McCluster and get a normal sized RB. Pretty Please.

RICK TORREY 52 pts

her3ma1 If Pioli does not get a first rate QB to go along with the rest of the talent they have on offense, this team is in real trouble. But knowing the way the Chiefs operate, I would be very surprised if they pick a QB in the first or even second round. They have a lot of holes to fill along both lines, and I don't see them changing the way they have done business for almost three decades. I know that Pioli is new, but the owner isn't. If you take a look at somes of the other teams, like the Vikings, Bengals and Panthers, they have decided to let the team come together with a rookie QB, and if you look deep enough, they all are making strides, especially Dalton. In times past, you let the rookie sit for three or more years and learn the system. Not any more. If the Chiefs take a high round pick at the position, that does not guarantee that he will start right away, so with Cassel, Orton and Stanzi, I still don't see a high pick at the position. And with Stanzi having Zero experience, Palko, sadly, will stay for the remainder of the season.