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Scott Pioli’s Deepest Desire

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‘Nother real bad game in the books, gang.  That makes four so far on the year, and we’ve yet to hit the difficult part of our schedule.  If this season were a game of Mario 3, we’d have lost all our lives before we even got to the Pipe Maze*.

*Remember the Hammer Brother Suit?  God, what a rush it was to don that thing.  Who on the Chiefs should that represent?  My boy Kendrick Lewis?  Could his nickname be “The Hammer Brother Suit”?

Yes, it was an ugly loss, and yes, it is made worse by the fact that the opposing team’s quarterback throws like me after 10 beers and still had a better game than our quarterback.  And now said quarterback is in a cast.

Cassel said he’ll be ready Monday night “unless he’s told otherwise.”  Looks like the Chiefs have found a neat new way to not say anything.  Hey Cassel, are you playing?  “Yes, I am playing.  Unless I’m not.”  Hey Todd, you callin’ plays?  “Yes, unless someone else is.”  Hey Pioli, what the f%#k were you thinking signing Sabby Piscitelli?  “He was a good fit, based on my interpretation of that word, which I will not explain.”  I can only think of one word to describe these guys: straightforward.

Our season had basically just ended, and Pioli’s first move was to go on information-lockdown regarding Cassel.  It was automatic.  Like that, more than anything, is what he knows how to do.  I’m not going to beat this drum again; that isn’t the point of this article.  But man, this team’s media presence depresses me.

On the plus side, the Patriots are probably totally freaking out about who to prepare for, right?  Cassel or Palko, talk about a Sophie’s choice.  Pick your poison, Belichick.  Or just call Pioli and ask him.  Something tells me you’re the one person he can’t lie to.

This is an important week for our GM.  He’d never admit it, but this game means far more to him than any other on our schedule.  Possibly more than any game since he got here, and that includes the playoff game.  Pioli knows he’s living in Bill Belichick’s shadow.  He knows every loss brings him closer to joining Mangini, McDaniels and Weis on the list of high-profile former Patriot failures.  He knows Whitlock and others make jokes about him getting Belichick’s coffee.  And he knows, on some level, that Belichick has been far more impressive than him on draft day these past three years*.  A win against his mentor on MNF, in front of the whole country, is his only way to justify himself this season.  He certainly won’t do it in the playoffs.

*We were all giddy about the trade down that netted us an extra third round pick this year.  That was a choice move for Pioli.  The Patriots had two second round picks and two third round picks in the very same draft, and still picked well before us in the first round.  All because of Belichick’s trading prowess.  This is a man who knows how to pull that trigger.  Pioli is simply not capable of that (nobody was calling).

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Unfortunately, there isn’t a lot Pioli can do to influence the outcome of this game.  Or rather, his act in this play happened months (or even years) ago.  Now he just has to sit back, relax, and watch his guys do their thing.  You know, Jones, Cassel, Tin Man, McCluster, Copper.  The good players.

In all seriousness, Pioli will likely suffer a humiliating defeat next Monday.  And honestly, I’m not sure that’s a bad thing.  I’ve been looking at this game all season as one I wanted to win at all costs.  But do we really want Pioli’s offseason performances justified in his own mind?  Because thats what a win here would do, and I’m starting to think that would have devastating consequences.

Pioli has always thought that establishing his (also known as “The Patriot”) way was the key to building a winner here.  In his mind, it isn’t about talent, and it isn’t about skill, it’s about everything being done exactly the way he wants it done.  We must run a 3-4, we must have his former team’s backup QB, and the media must be subjugated and shunned.  Pioli knows best.

He’s not alone in this.  Football general managers are usually ego-maniacs (and liars by trade).  They’re always right, and their mistakes are always justifiable.  And that’s if they’re admitted to (Pioli is still saying he’d pick Tin Man if he had that draft to do over again).  Every GM thinks he’s the smartest man in the NFL.

Pioli is in a unique situation though, because he doesn’t need to win to have the city (and owner) fawning over him.  All he has to do is talk about patience, reference the future, and keep the payroll low.  Not many GMs have that kind of leeway.  Think about it, if the Chiefs lost their final seven games and went 4-12, he would still be nowhere near the hot-seat.  And his overall record at that point would be 18-31.   Is there any other team in the league whose GM wouldn’t be worried about his job after a three-year stretch like that?

I’m not saying we’ll lose out, in fact I don’t think we will.  But the problem is that even if we go 6-10, with a win over the Patriots, Pioli gets to spin that (even in his own mind) as some form of perverse progress.  “Hey, remember how bad things were three years ago?  Remember when Berry and Charles got hurt?  Remember when I still managed to beat the greatest man in history?  The obvious remedy here is……more patience!  Stay the course!”  Pioli wouldn’t say as much, but that’s what he’d be thinking.

I hate to say this, but I think a loss on Monday benefits our team more than a win.  And I don’t mean this in a “suck for Luck” way.  I’m not a believer in losing for draft picks, particularly with so many games to play.  But Pioli needs a wake-up call in the worst way, and a win over the Patriots would be the opposite of that.

It’s a strange thing to want your GM to have his confidence shaken, but in my mind we need that more than a win.  If Pioli heads into this offseason 100% convinced of his own infallibility, we’re due for another seven months of substance over sizzle.  That would be far, far more damaging than a meaningless loss to a team that is clearly better than ours.

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I love the Chiefs, I just don't understand why . . er . . . how my team always ends up being the one on the bad end of the humiliation! I started being a big Chiefs fan when Vermeil was HC, those years were fun, bad defense kick @$$ offense, but in the end dissapointing. then suffered through Herm, I'm not saying Haley is a bad coach, cause I have liked alot of what he has done. what is it 6 of the last 8 losses are blowouts if I count correctly, last year SD, Oak, Bal, this year Buf, Det, Mia all blowouts, then there was also the Den blowout last year too! What gives? I don't care who the personnel on the team is, an NFL team should be able to consistantly compete in any game! All except my chiefs, as soon as that first domino falls, they are all laying flat. My solution is the obvious one, GET A FREAKING QB!!!! the QB is supposed to be the player on the field that motivates and believes, and makes things happen. Cassel can't do that, unless Pioli eventually pulls a deal on draft day to get a true franchise QB then Haley will be a failure, and Pioli will be a failure as well. My belief is that the QB makes the coach, not the other way around.

Well i hope Pioli has already learned his lesson that our off season wasn't good enough. When you get beat down by Miami and the Donkeys in consecutive weeks, something isn't working and i do really hope Pioli is smart enough to realize a big part of it is depth. Also, i think i'm going to go play Super Mario Bros. 3 now, been way to long sense i've played that game. Good times.

"Read the blitz run like hell" I like that statement. How about our coaching staff actually play call around blitzing teams. You know run a screen pass, shallow cross, draw, quick out, or shall we just bury our heads in the sand and act like the other team isn't going to blitz.

My thoughts from the last two weeks exactly. And what the fuck was up with Jon Baldwin saying in to pass protect yesterday? Who the hell uses receivers to pass protect? Fuckin a. @ArrowFan

@LennyNightwolf @ArrowFan yeah that was really weird

@ArrowFan Correct but what if the Chiefs do not have the talent on the offense to "handle" the blitz. Haley cut the weight of the OL, we all like it at the time, now they get ran over by almost every defense they face. Not sure there are answers, short of going out and hiring a complete OL between now and Monday.

@tm1946 We know they don't have the talent that's why the coaching staff should be trying to coach around it, not run into it face first.

@tm1946@ArrowFan When the other team is coming at you with all out blitzes the solution is to adjust to 3 step drops, quick slants/outs, screens - not to wish our OL was fatter. They couldn't run the zone blocking scheme if they were lumbering around.

NE does not have to worry about Cassel. Haley's news conference - he said Cassel will require surgery. The only question for me is just how bad will the ass whipping be on monday? Anyone like Palko as starting QB, hope he can read the blitz and run like hell.

Just heard Cassel is probably out for the season. Gag

@tm1946 Palko is much more versitile than Cassel so he could scramble for some yards. Who knows he may do just fine. I would rather see what we have in Stanzi even though that wont happen.

At this point, I'm more interested in seeing what another QB can do. I think that's our major hurdle: finally giving up on Cassel. I just don't think our O line is that bad and our WRs aren't getting open. And if Cassel's out next MNF, then I hope Palko (most likely) can at least help the O to look respectable (a little more mobile anyway). But perhaps I feel this way just because it's the quickest fix. A new GM and/or HC screams REBUILD to me.

@sidibeke You'll get your chance. Haley just said that Cassel has to have surgery on his throwing hand.

@bossmanham @sidibeke yikes. Buckle up, people. I feel bad for Cassel. That guy may never get another chance to start again. Althoug he has millions of dollars and probably never should've been a starter in the first place, so I guess he doesn't deserve that much pity.

@Big Matt@bossmanham@sidibeke My guess is Cassel starts game one next year. Pioli not one to admit a mistake, and Cassell is now pretty cheap: 2012: $5.25 million, 2013: $7.5 million, 2014: $9 million. Kent Babb's Report: "Tyler Palko will be the Chiefs' starter indefinitely, although rookie Ricky Stanzi is waiting in the wings. Cassel can be dropped in all fantasy leagues, and the Chiefs may do the same with him after this season. The 29-year-old is due a $5.25 million base salary in 2012. Kansas City could turn in another direction should it find a quarterback worth drafting in the first round or installing as a starter after signing in free agency. Palko's insertion will present a downgrade for all Chiefs skill players. The former undrafted free agent is undersized with a weak arm, and would be a third-stringer on most NFL teams."

@Big Matt Cassel had his moments the problem was they were just moments, never any consistancy.

@KC Oracle Good comment. Do you think Cassel would have any trade value at all. 5th round pick even? Surely we could get something for him if they wised up. I agree though I dont think Pioli will fess up.

@Danny W I doubt that Cassel will have much trade value, especially after the throwing hand injury/surgery. So hopefully we can get some of our money out of as our back up.

@sidibeke For Stanzi to play the Chiefs have to stand up and say - OK, fans we give up. We will start Stanzi and see if he belongs in the NFL but we are done, no mas.

@tm1946@sidibeke Probably too soon for Stanzi. After a couple blow out losses with Palko, it will be time to bring in Stanzi for 4 or 5 games to see what he can do.

@tm1946 @sidibeke If your lookin at out stretch of games comming up I think they do that if they are wise.

On the other hand, we haven't seen what we have from this last batch of draft picks. Jalil Brown could be a good corner, we don't know. He hasn't hardly played. Powe could be a good NT, and Stanzi could be a good QB. We don't know yet. I know that Pioli hasn't had a whole lot of time to change things, prepare rookies, etc. I think we need a few more years. However, if Pioli either doesn't see what we have in Stanzi, or doesn't trade up to get one of the top QB prospects, he will likely fail in his tenure here in KC. I don't want that. I didn't want Cassel to fail either. But Pioli I think wants to succeed. Surely he doesn't want a failed regime in KC and isn't going to stick with players who clearly can't make it work. We'll see what he does.

@bossmanham It is exactly right that we should be putting in the young guys to see what they can do. The potential problem is that Haley will want ot play the guys who give him the best chance to win.

@KC Oracle @bossmanham I'll bet $50 there's at least one game where Thom Jones has 10+ touches. of course, that doesn't really fall under "young guys" or "guys who give him the best chance to win"

@Big Matt@kc@bossmanham I'll take that action - TJ is done and even Haley is finally accepting it as he hasn't had 10 since week 5.

@KC MikeG@kc@bossmanham Yeah but you know he's got one last hurrah. If the season is over Haley will probably try pretty hard to get him a touchdown in that final game.

@Big Matt @KC MikeG @kc @bossmanham If were talking about Thom needing a sit (which I agree with) then we need to talk about Kelly Gregg sitting too unless were on the goal line. IMO

@Danny W@BIG@kc@bossmanham Got to see what Powe can do and think we have a good back up with Gordon.

@KC MikeG@Danny W@BIG@kc@bossmanham Mike. Just what the hell do you see in "we have a good backup" that no coach or fan has seen him do since preseason.

@tm1946@Danny W@BIG@kc@bossmanham Wow - not sure why my opinion of Gordon got you so fired up? I did say I think. I never claimed he was our starter next year, just a good rotational player.

@tm1946@Danny W@BIG@kc@bossmanham Being I'm a fan who has been at every game and saw Gordon make some nice plays in his limited playing time, the rest of your comment would be untrue.

@bossmanham Come on, Pioli has shown for the last 3 years he only know how to wipe rear of the NE head coach. He can only id one or two college players each to draft, they rest are not cannon fodder. Pioli "does not want a failed regime" , really what has he done to show you, Cassel?, Jones?, Gaither?, Jackson, Magee, OConnel, Washington. Please consider taking your head out of the sand.

@tm1946 So you really think the guy is purposely trying to trash the team? You realize some people actually want to succeed in their career, right? Some want to leave a positive legacy. Pioli doesn't want to fail, and to suggest so doesn't really get anywhere with me. I'd rather talk about how to make it better. I think these are growing pains. I still think we'll have a good team in one or two years.

@bossmanham No Pioli does not want to fail. But I fear he is so full of himself and proving he is in power and so smart, not in the shadow of his NE experience, he has lost his path (if he ever had a path in the first place, what if he IS nothing but a go-fer like in NE). "growing pains", seem only the fans are suffering from this. After 3 years, has Haley grown?, Cassel?, WHO? No this team is not about growing pains, it is about money and who gets to keep it.

@tm1946@bossmanham Taking a shot on Cassel was a reasonable move. It has just turned out that he probably is not good enough to take a team deep in the playoffs in today's NFL.

@tm1946 I don't agree. These guys have money. It's about legacy at this point.

@tm1946@bossmanham For the umpteenth time WHO should Pioli paid to play here? Babin is the only FA earning his keep and lots of good that's doing his 3-6 team after spending 220 Million on FA's. Guess you would be happier if Pioli had just thrown bags of money at underperforming divas/has beens/ wanna be's - right?

@tm1946@bossmanham How about resigning every good player we have? How about Berry, Baldwin, Lewis, Moeaki? Your point is completely ridiculous. Pioli can't prove any of the things you say he wants to prove by losing nor will it get him another shot somewhere else.

@KC MikeG @tm1946 @bossmanham There were some safeties out there besides Jon McGraw Sabby Piscatelli and Rashard Langford who would have done the Chiefs a better service.

@Danny W@kc@tm1946@bossmanham Of the top 15 safties 7 resigned with their teams, of the 8 remaining, 3 are injuried, none of the other 5 are tearing it up enough to have beat out/outperformed Kendrick Lewis ($2M) especially for the difference in money even Q. Mikkel ($7M) or D. Landry ($5M).

@Danny W@kc@tm1946@bossmanham Merriweather ($3.25M) that many clammored for in KC was so bad the Bears benched him. Don't get me wrong - our back ups are weak and hopefully all gone next year but you don't pay that kind of money to back ups.

Pioli has always has struck me as smart. So, unless he is in complete denial, he realizes he has a bad team, and he does not need a shellacking by the Patriots to wake him up to that fact. Of course, it will be painful to him when we to lose by 3 or 4 touchdowns (I doubt that the Patriots will run it up more than that), and maybe it will cause more urgency in his actions to fix the team, but at some level he realizes the Chiefs are likely to get trounced. The potential problem is that with the injuries and now Cassel possibly out, if Pioli is inclined to denial, he could rationalize away how much needs to be done. But I doubt it. QB is a real problem. Pioli may be slow to admit Cassel is not good enough and, if that is the case, Pioli may well never succeed in KC. I think Haley is almost certainly gone after this year and, as a practical matter, Pioli probably has at least a couple more years before he is on the hot seat.. The fortress mentality is ridiculous, but I don't know how it compares to other franchises besides the Patriots.

@KC Oracle You'll get your chance. Haley just said that Cassel has to have surgery on his throwing hand.

@KC Oracle Hate to add this - but what are we going to do if our first time HC gets fired? Pioli will get at least more years while the next bum of the month HC passes thru. PLEASE, let Haley succeed, I am not sure I can take Pioli fumbling in the dard for 5 more year. Brings back bad memories of that first date om the back seat of my car, god the futility of it all.

@tm1946@KC Oracle Wow, you don't like Haley, I get it, you're entitled to your opinion.... but you just called our hypothetical head coach that will replace Haley, in the event he gets fired, a bum! Jumping to quick decisions, like a player is a bust before he hits the field, is one thing, deciding that our new coach is a bum before our old one is fired... well that seems a bit crazy.

@Gjrchief@KC Oracle Sorry but are looking forward to a new HC, not me. I used the bum of the month club, because that is how Pioli tried to put together our WRs, we had Bowe and 2 years later, 2YEARS LATER, we got Breaston and Baldwin. Remember? That is how Pioli runs.

@tm1946@KC Oracle No Im not looking forward to a new head coach, I am on board with Haley. I dont want us to cut him lose so he can go to another team for 20 years and bring them multiple super bowls. Id rather go through a few growing pains now, and reap the benefits.

@Gjrchief@KC Oracle Good, we agree but what do the Chiefs do? I do not want to watch this bunch the rest of the year. This is un-watchable from about every point of view. Still do not get your growing pains comment. Getting run off the field against Mia and Denver are not growing pain, at least to me, it is just short of battery against loyal fans.

@tm1946@KC Oracle Haley hiring Muir as OC was a bad choice. Hopefully he learns from it, and next year brings in someone stronger.... that is a growing pain. The offseason plan, was growing pains, he wont make that mistake again. 2 big blunders, does not make him a coach without a future, but coaches have been fired for less... i think doing so is a mistake. If this season ends up being wasted do to these mistakes, it is unfortunate, but I dont want to make a knee jerk reaction that hurts our future... I think of them as growing pains.

@tm1946@KC Oracle The loyal fan comment is interesting. Is the definition of a homer a loyal fan.... because they always are looking on the bright side. Its the disloyal, trash talking or fair weather fans that seem to get so uptight about losses. No one likes to lose, but it has happened to every single football team in the history of the NFL except one! The first live game at arrowhead I saw was a lose to the Broncos, a humiliating loss, I loved every minute. God, it was great to witness the team, feel a stadium in unison support their team, there is way more to love about football then winning! I dont love the Chiefs because they win, I love the Chiefs becasue they are my Chiefs, I wouldnt trade a moment, even the last two weeks, to cheer for any other team.