“Those Guys Are Lying” Say Professional Liars

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Two reports denied by the Chiefs brass in two days.  Pardon me for saying so, but I love this stuff.  As an East Coast fake media elite and eager student of NFL front office politics, news like this is my bread-and-butter.  I might not be “qualified to discuss football” or “someone you’d want around your children,” but I am pretty damn good at detecting deceit.  This is why you keep a Big Matt on staff.  This, and for an endless supply of stupid nicknames (see Barry “Stink” Richardson).

Before we really delve into the recent rumors, I think its important that I, and everyone else, admit that we don’t know for sure whether they’re true or false.  Sounds elementary when discussing rumors, but it seems like people forget that sometimes.  This isn’t about what we know, it’s about what we think.  All we can do is make educated guesses, defend them, and wait for conclusive evidence to drop.  In most cases, it doesn’t.

Gretz’s rumor about the sale of the stadium naming rights is something of an aberration in that respect.  Either the naming rights will be sold, or they won’t.  No grey area here.  If the rights are sold, Gretz was right.

The Chiefs, predictably, were indignant when he broke the news.  Check out this pissy almost-denial by team president Mark Donovan:

“There’s no basis in fact,” Donovan said. “Not sure where the blogger is getting his information, but there is no announcement planned.”

Chiefs 1, Speculators nothing.

Pioli: I like the cut of Donovan’s jib.  Who needs Denny Thum and his 36 years with the team?  This guy knows the company line!  Did you see how he combined smug with righteously indignant?  How he refused to directly answer questions?  Did you see the entitlement?  All while lying!  This guy has it all. 

Hunt:  Agreed.  Fire a low level employee and give his entire salary to Mark Donovan.  Call it a “disrespecting the media” bonus. 

Donovan’s quasi-denial, combined with the purposely vague “nothing is imminent.  No announcement is planned” line from an unnamed official that same day, should be looked at as a firm denial by the Chiefs.  If they come out accusing a reporter of lying, they’d better not be lying themselves, right?  So the naming rights haven’t been sold?

Look closer.  That language is hardly definitive.  “No announcement planned” is the type of thing they can say is true no matter what happens.  Even if negotiations are all but complete, it could technically be true that no announcement is planned.  And “imminent” is a word the Chiefs can define themselves.  Even Donovan’s “no basis in fact” line….is that really a denial?  The Chiefs front office is doing what they always do: attacking the credibility of the media while providing no information whatsoever.  This is their public relations strategy.  It helps them win football games, apparently.

more after le jump:

My guess is that by the start of next season, there will be a new name in place.  “______ Field at Arrowhead Stadium,” I would think.  If that ends up being the case, we can safely assume the Chiefs are pretty deep in negotiations right now.  So why bother denying Gretz’s report?  Why bother lying just to temporarily discredit a blogger providing free coverage of your team?

Why, indeed.  I don’t know the answer to that.  Sometimes I think Scott Pioli is very confused about what really made New England a winner.  It’s like he imported all the crap and left Tom Brady and Bill Belichick behind.  “Let’s see, we got Vrabel, we got Cassel, we got tight security, we got a billionaire in a plush owner’s box, we got a condescending attitude.  OK, let’s win some championships!”

We’ll just have to see if these naming rights get sold.  I’d be willing to bet a lot of money they do.  How will we remember these quotes from the Chiefs if that happens?  Will we wonder why they lied to us, or will we use that tiny bit of wiggle-room in “nothing is imminent” to let them off the hook?  That’s a decision each of us will have to make for ourselves.  Personally, I’m not into making excuses for people trying to keep me in the dark.

The Chiefs have apparently been working on selling the naming rights for five years.  How long has Clark Hunt been in charge of the team again?  So his father passes away, and he immediately gets to work on changing the name of the stadium he inherited?  Nice to know the priorities are in place.

My final word on the stadium naming issue is this: do any of you really think Gretz is just lying?  No way.  Gretz is many things, but a sensationalist he is not.  The guy isn’t looking to grab headlines.  His coverage has always been strictly informational.  There isn’t a doubt in my mind he was actually tipped off by someone on the inside.  I’ve seen it suggested that maybe this was a smokescreen to find out who in Arrowhead was leaking information.  I suppose anything is possible, but I really doubt the Chiefs would try that one day after Nick Wright’s rumor  leaked.  The informant would have to be pretty careless to get caught by such a simple, immediate ruse.  And if the Chiefs were indeed trying to plug an inside leak, that would be a pretty good indicator that something actually did get out, right?  Would they really be trying to tighten up security if everything Wright said was “100 percent false”?

Wright’s rumor is fascinating.  And if you believe Pioli’s “100 percent false” line, I’ve got some swampland to sell you.

The radio host’s character and integrity were attacked as soon as this rumor dropped.  Hardly surprising.  That’s what happens when anyone, anywhere, says anything even semi-negative about the Chiefs.  They’re an idiot, they’re a liar, they’re just looking for attention.  Erik Hicks, Bill Simmons, Walterfootball, Wright, Brian Waters, Jason Whitlock, The Centaur, Bob Gretz, Mel Kiper, Adam Teicher, Double D, Paddy, your boy Big Matt, we’ve all taken abuse for daring to suggest that not everything in Chiefland is peachy keen.  It’s like clockwork.  Question the company line, get angry, incoherent responses.  This is nothing new.

Pioli’s response shouldn’t have surprised anyone.  Neither should the fact that it came via Joel Thorman at Arrowhead Pride.  In fact, here’s me in an AP fanshot comment section predicting that story would drop on the AP front page within 10 minutes.  Eight minutes later, there it was.  This was not a difficult prediction to make.   Pioli cozied up to AP almost as soon as he got here.  It was a smart move.  They’ve got a massive readership and are extremely positive in their coverage.  If you have to get your Chiefs news from somewhere other than KCChiefs.com, Pioli wants it to be from AP*.

*As opposed to this site, which he would burn to the ground if he could.  I had an interview scheduled with Allen Bailey this weekend.  The Chiefs squashed it.  And this was an interview Bailey’s people requested, not us.  Apparently letting a backup defensive lineman talk to a volunteer blogger is just too risky.  All such interviews must be approved by the Chiefs PR staff first.  There is only one other team in the NFL that has this rule in place.  Guess which one? 

Pioli has been silent all year, and the minute Wright’s rumor drops his phone lines are suddenly open.  The story they’d like us to believe is that Thorman heard the rumor, called Pioli, and it was de-bunked.  Pretty simple, right?  Just your friendly neighborhood GM, answering his phone like he usually does.

Please.  Remember, Pioli’s policy has always been “one team, one voice,”  that voice being the coach’s.  He hadn’t talked to the media about anything, not a single quote, all season.  Nor had he responded to any of the other allegations that there was trouble between he and Haley (of which there have been several).  The fact that he immediately sprang into action here tells us much.

Of course, Wright’s report could be based on false information.  But that isn’t what people are saying.  People are calling him a liar, saying he made it up.  I’m not going to claim media personalities are always entirely honest, but does anyone really think Wright is more likely to lie about this than Pioli?  His job is to bring us information, whereas Pioli’s (self-appointed) job is to keep it from us.  Ask yourself honestly, if this rumor were true, what do you think Pioli would say?  Do you think he might say it was “100 percent false?”  Let me answer that for you: yes, that is exactly what he’d say.

For the record, I don’t think Haley should be fired yet.  Yes, he’s made several obvious mistakes in his time with us.  He has glaring weaknesses in talent evaluation, game planning, and playing well with others.  But the book on him (in my eyes) is far from closed.  Maybe he really does get the best out of people.  That’s a quality worth holding onto at all costs in the NFL.  With an offensive coordinator south of 100 years old and a GM who didn’t feed him washed up locker-room leaders to fall in love with, he could make a hell of a coach.  Of course, some of you assert that he’s already a great coach.  Myopia that extreme hinders the discourse, and prevents us from getting at the truth about Haley.  And the truth, from my perspective, is that this season is an excellent proving ground for him.  If he wills this team to a near .500 record after that catastrophic start, I’d be in favor of keeping him around.  A 4-12 finish and another 150 carries for Thom Jones and I’ll have officially seen enough.

But we’re not talking about whether or not Haley should be fired, we’re talking about whether or not he was going to be fired.  I’ll admit Wright’s news shocked me.  I never thought it had come that close.  And yet, it’s hard for me to believe he would straight up make this up.  Integrity, or at least the appearance of integrity, is something most journalists care deeply about.  If you make a habit of inventing stories, it will eventually catch up to you.  Nick Wright is smarter than that.

As I said at the beginning of the article, I don’t know for sure who is telling the truth here.  But I think we should all keep in mind that Pioli’s first responsiblity isn’t to us, it’s to his team.  He obviously thinks secrecy is very important to the success of that team.  And if he was indeed planning on firing Haley, he sure wouldn’t want us knowing that now.  If you think Pioli would shrink from a lie here, you’re very, very naive.

What do you think, Addicts, are Wright and Gretz full of baloney, or is there a leak at 1 Arrowhead Drive?

P.S. ran into a friend at the airport last week

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"How long has Clark Hunt been in charge of the team again? So his father passes away, and he immediately gets to work on changing the name of the stadium he inherited? Nice to know the priorities are in place.". BM 1 - The Clarks 0 I like BM because it makes you sound like a pos.

Pioli, who has won multiple Executive of the Year awards, probably knows a thing or two about running an NFL franchise. A fan and blogger named Big Matt probably knows next to nothing about it. The End.

@mushmouth71 Put me in coach, I'm ready to GM! First move: Give the Raiders twice what they gave up for Palmer. Make a statement.

Matt, that's awesome you got a picture of the dude who played Golem in LOTR the musical.. but who's the black guy in the picture? :)

@TrappedInDonkeyland That be Tamba!

@Big Matt that's awesome man.. I hear he's really cool in person

@TrappedInDonkeyland He was really nice. I kept my distance because I didn't want to bug him, in fact I felt pretty weird even asking him for the pic. That can't be fun for a guy like him. But he was gracious. It occurred to me at one point that he's younger than me. That was messed up.

Holy sh*t, what a great article.

@Double D Thanks brother. It was fun to write. I love the front office stuff.

One other thing about the Chiefs' secrecy and deception. I don't know how it compares to other NFL teams. Others may be similar, but as a fan, unless you live in the city, it is hard to get a feel for other teams.

Overall very interesting take by Matt. And, great photo. I also agree the secrecy and deception by the Chiefs is very annoying and mostly unnecessary. But I would not conclude that responding to these two reports should be considered evidence of deceit on these issues. The reports were so newsworthy that the Chiefs probably had to make some type of comment. Great bye week discussion. Should be very interesting game this week, even though I greatly regret that it looks like the Collts are going to get to replace Manning with Luck - how lucky can a team get. I think the Chiefs will win 4 to 6 games and be out of the running, unless Cassel gets hurt (which I don't want to see happen) and they freeze at 2 wins. I suppose the Colts might win 3 times, although if they each win 2 or the Chiefs win 2 and the Colts win 1, then that win at Indianapolis will turn out to be a disaster. It not only kept Haley around [maybe], but also cost us Luck.

One thing I notice you didn't mention was the information Gretz gave about who might be purchasing said rights. It will be fairly obvious if Gretz was lying (or should I say his source was accurate). He said it will be a company you know, "won't have to Google them to find out what they do" was close to his words, and even went further to say they have not been involved in purchasing naming rights of athletic venues. The other motive for Pioli to deny it is they still have to cross all their T's and dot their....lower case J's before the deal is done and they don't want it to fall through last minute. In that case, it would behoove them to squash it right away while also being mad at Gretz for releasing information too early and possibly ruining the deal.** **I don't know how realistic it is that this leak would ruin a deal close to being in place, but I'm reaching for straws trying to play the devil's advocate. I think the devil's advocate helps to see both sides. My first thought was Google as someone already mentioned below. The list of companies that would fit the profile isn't that long. Even if it isn't Google, my guess is we'll all think "duh, that was obvious". With such skills displayed in this post, did you ever think about becoming a private dick (and I'm not talking about the night job you already have)?

@blockeater Private dick, private eye, private dancer, I've considered many things. Great point about Gretz's specifics, I can't believe I didn't put that together. He actually kind of went out on a limb there. Will make it even easier to tell if he really had inside info or not. Again, I'd be willing to bet a lot of $ that he ends up being proven right here.

@Big Matt @blockeater I diasagree I think Gretz was just as vague as the Chiefs Brass. A company you will not have to google... that is very subjective. I never heard of Invesco before they bought the rights in denver but Im pretty sure they are some sort of investment firm. How many NFL stadiums are named for a company you had to google? Again I think he was playing the odds, and if it is the most obscure unknwon company he can say his source said they had multiple offers on the table and the known company backed out. As far as the whole not have rights anywhere else... duh! The NFL has exclusive rules on everything. You can't be an owner, if you own any other American Sports team, and you guessed it, you can't buy naming rights to an NFL stadium if you hold them for any other. His "specifics" told us nothing.

@Gjrchief @BIG @blockeater but the "never been involved in purchasing naming rights" is pretty definitive. He could easily fall on his face with that. If he's making it up, it would be pretty insane to take that risk. Hey, maybe it blows up in his face and you're right. But that would not be my guess.

@blockeater I think Gretz's report is probably true. It was pretty much a non-denial denial. My guess is that it will become: "Arrowhead Stadium Powered by Google" and Google will install some type of state of the art wireless technology at the Stadium for next year.

As far as the stadium naming rights. What's is the Chiefs motivation to lie? Quick, think of what upsets you the most about the story... that we would consider selling the rights to our beloved stadium. THEY DID NOT DENY THAT. They fully admidted that they are trying and have in fact been trying to sell the right for years. That is what upsets the fans, and they did not deny it. They actually offered up more info then they had to telling us tht they've been negotiating for years. So tell me why are we calling the organization liars on this one? They have not completed a deal, no announcement is planned, that is what they argued. That being the case it seems far more likely to me that during a slow news bye week a reporter took a stab in the dark. Quick, how many teams in the nfl have NOT sold naming rights to either their field or stadium? Not many, so it was a logical assumption that the organization was at least kicking the idea around. So why not run with the story, cause if the Chiefs ever sell the right, he will use that as proof that he was right, and only an idiot would think that it wouldn't ever happen.

The problem with your logic is that you act like a PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST has nothing to lose with making up a story. What?!?! It's his livelihood we're talking about, if he gets a reputation for making up stories he's ruined. That's not worth it for a journalist. Gretz has way more to lose for making that up then he does to gain if he's right. After all, six months from now no one will care if Gretz had the scoop on the naming rights they'll just care that the stadium got renamed. On the other hand if Gretz gets busted for just making up stories and lying to his readers people will stop reading and won't believe him next time he has a "scoop".

@Gjrchief So you really think Gretz just made this up because of a slow bye week? I'm sorry, but thats crazy. He's been covering the team for almost 30 years. I disliked the guy for a lot of that time, but I never once thought he was making stuff up to grab headlines. He simply doesn't do that. You really think one bye week could make him that desperate, after 30 years? Why are they issuing denials about this report if its essentially true? Why bother even calling Gretz a liar? They've couched their language in a way that it serves as a denial without actually being one. That was quite obviously done intentionally. What I'm saying is that if the naming rights are sold reasonably soon, it probably means Gretz really did have a source. And if he had a source, and they're saying there is nothing to that.....who is lying here? You're right, they aren't technically denying that they've negotiated. They were careful not to. That right there should tell you Gretz may very well be right.

@Big Matt The fact that they did not deny it tells me that they don't really care that we know. Hell, we will all know when we go to arrowhead and see the name, so their is nothing to gain in not letting us know. As I said they did not even mind telling us that they have been trying to sell the rights for years, obviously the don't consider it a big secret. They squashed the rumor to avoid a billion questions about a deal that doesn't exist, and the waiting in fans and the media for an announcement to come that never will. Again, Gretz will not be crucified for this, this will be forgotten, heck even the Chiefs being in negotiation will be used by Gretz to say he was correct. If you did not think that the organization was trying to sell the naming rates you know very little about the buisness of football.

@Gjrchief @BIG On the contrary, if a year goes by and the naming rights aren't sold a lot of people will remember, and Gretz will look foolish. People will bring that up any time he tries to break any story for the rest of his life. They told us they'd been negotiating for five years only after the cat was already out of the bag. Did you hear anything about these negotiations before Gretz made that post? I sure as hell didn't. They wouldn't have been saying anything about it otherwise, per usual. Quick, name the last time mark Donovan said anything to anyone.

@Big Matt More importantly I want to talk about these inside sources that these media hacks have. You are the biggest conspiracist I have ever read, and your telling me that a guy as secretive and paranoid as you try to paint Piloi as being would mouth off about firing his head couch to someone who he couldnt trust! Are you kidding me! Why would he tell that to anyone? As paranoid as he is, and as close as he plays everything to vest you think he just let that slip before it needed to. Hell, why not wait till we lose to the Colts, then kick the idea around with his team. He would have lost no time at all, its the bye week, he had time. The idea that Pioli spilled the beans to someone who is not trust worthy is laughable at best.

@Gjrchief @BIG I think repression breeds rebellion, and our front office is the most repressive in foootball. I'm sure Pioli thought he could trust his inner circle. I would imagine thats why the Chiefs are so shaken up about this stuff. They're pretty clearly shaken up, right? I mean these guys NEVER talk to the media and all of the sudden its a blitz. Why is that, do you think?

@Big Matt @BIG So you really pedal this crap every week about how paranoid Pioli is, and you think he stays up in his office for girl talk and dishes on Haley's job security? That is not Pioli. His inner circle is him, Clark, and Todd. This organization lives on need to know. Why the sudden media blitz??? He was asked! Joel called him up, asked him, got an answer and posted it. Show me an important issue like these two stories where someone directly asked Pioli if it was true and he refused to answer. He doesn't volunteer anything, but when he is asked directly he talks. What is the last thing remotely like the stadium naming rights that required a response from Donovan??? Just because they have nothing to talk about, doesnt mean they hold stuff back. When asked directly about something that does not effect the game, the organization responds at the same level as every other NFL team. But lets not be stupid, Haley and Pioli should not talk about injuries, or who is going to be active, or what plays they will run etc, there is something called a competitive advantage that should be preserved.

@Gjrchief @BIG So you believe Pioli fields calls from the media and answers questions whenever they care to call? And that Thorman was just the first person to call and ask him anything this year? Seriously? I mean I'm sorry man, but thats just wrong.

Ok, sorry to ruin the big matt lovefest in the comments here, but I have a few issues. First, why do we find it odd that these reports are responded to, but not others... yet you don't seem to find it odd that both these stories came to light during the bye week? I can admit that the timming of Piolis commenting looks suspicous, but you seem to make no mention of the medias timing of these stories. This is the worst week for sports writters, bloggers, and radio hosts. Their readers, editors, and producers demand meaningful Chiefs news, even though the team is producing none. Why is it so far fetched that under that preassure somone might lie? Let's look at motivation... you said it urself in comments, so many haters did not even know he was a radio host... THEY DO NOW! This was his sex tape, weather good or bad it got his name out there, and now people are listening! Besides, what does he have to lose. By refusing to name his source he can make up anything he wants, and if wrong can always fall back on saying his 'source' gave him bad information, or that the other guys are lying to make him look bad. In the end he is blameless. And he knows that Piolis secretive nature works to his advantage. In the end im sure Wright will have more unconfirmable rumors come offseason, and next years bye. After all, writters have deadlines and radio hosts have listeners, byes or not they must be entertained or he is out of a job. Id probably lie too to but food on the table for my family.

@Gjrchief Do you listen to Wright? This was not his first Chiefs scoop. He often has the inside information on injuries and what's going on inside the locker room. He's the one that broke the Jones/Baldwin fight and when he did, people said the same thing you are saying now "Oh he's just making this stuff up for ratings". In my opinion Wright's main problem is that he isn't very likable, but as far as Chiefs coverage he's usually one of the best.

@Gjrchief I was expecting much worse after that first sentence. There are very real consequences for making up stories. You anger the team, anger fans, and look like an idiot when your scoop turns out to be wrong. If that happens even a couple times to a guy like Wright, his rep is shot (see Jack Harry). There is simply too much to lose by being a guy who cries wolf. The bye week is not enough to make desperate liars out of everyone. Its one week. I'm not buying that.

@Big Matt The problem though is there is no risk for Wright. Wright spoke about what was going through Pioli's mind! There is no way to prove or disprove this. There is no chance in people saying Wright faked the story, casue there is no way to prove it. Here try this on... Big Matt was thinking about unicorns the entire time he wrote this piece. Can you prove I'm wrong, because If you deny I am just going to say, well hey guys what do you expect Big Matt to say, he had to deny it. I'm going to head YOU off at the pass here because I am sure that your response would have confirmed that were thinking about unicorns in an effort to use humor to put up a smoke screen over the fact that I am making a valid point. Tell me how any one would ever know that Wright made this up, when he is speaking entirely about the thoughts in another man's head, based upon information he got from an unnamed source, who he will never name, and who will never come forward because he will lose his job. It can never be confirmed! Therefore he has no fear of ever being outed as making up stories. Besides he has armies of guys like you who are so distrusting of Pioli that you will rush to his defense.

@Gjrchief @BIG And why are people distrustful of Pioli? How did that happen? You're right, i couldn't disprove that I'm thinking about unicorns. But you would look silly if you asserted something like that. your credibility would take a hit. The crux of your point seems to boil down to "these guys made this up." I just think thats an incredibly brazen assumption, that these professional journalists are just making stuff up to stir the pot. They're real people, you know. Their job is to report reality. You really feel confident accusing them both of such despicable tactics? Why?

@Gjrchief@BIG Good point that, IF Wright wanted to just make up a report (or, I suppose, if an off the record source wanted to just make up a report), then one about Pioli's state of mind/intent would be the perfect fabrication - can't be proven either way, unless the report included whom Pioli had selected to replace him (which Pioli probably would not have told anyone yet, with the luxury of time due to the bye week). Matt said at the outset that he did not know if the report was true. I say it is about 50/50 on the firing report. So, unless Wright provides some sourcing or other evidence, we will never know. There is no particular reason to believe Pioli, but also no particular reason to believe the truth of Wright's report -- I tend to believe that Wright did not just make it up, but that does not mean it is true.

@Big Matt @BIG well partly because wright is not reporting reality. He is reporting the inner workings of another mans brain! Even if an "inside source" told him this it is still irresponsible journalism to do a story that is both unprovable and undeniable. There is a part of journalism that seems to be overlooked for the sake of getting the story first, and that is fact checking. If haley was toast, who was the replacement, get a coach to come forward saying he was contacted by Pioli. Have the "source" find an email, or letter, or a secretly recorded conversation. You know proof! If some nosey neighbor starts telling me things you and Paddy do when your alone together and KC scores, can I report that as fact? No, id set up a camera and post the video in an upcoming comment. Id keep my mouth shut till I had something concrete.

You know I would argue with you if I could, but your logic here is rock solid. Great piece Big Matt.

@LyleGraversen ha, thanks buddy. I had another paragraph in there piling it on Hunt, but decided it was too much and removed it during the final edit. I think you would've been able to find something in there to take issue with ;)

Wow I hadn't even considered that the naming rights rumor could be a mole hunt. The fact that that kind of notion could even get an ounce of credence bespeaks the damage the front office has done to its relationship with the media and the fans with their cloak and dagger attitude. I mean, the CIA thinks the Chiefs play things a bit close to the vest. As you say, no matter what happens they won't be shown to have lied outright with their denials of these two reports, but I think a lot of people realize by now that they won't flinch from outright lies if they can couch them in even the flimsiest pretense. Haley's guilty of it as well, although in his defense a lot of what he obfuscates, evades, and lies about may have actual consequences on the field if he was more forthright. But I remember when he was asked about the Jonathan Baldwin/ Thomas Jones fight rumor he claimed he had no idea what the reporter was talking about. It just comes too easily to these guys.

@greens I remember that as well. It was maddening. The problem is that Haley clearly desn't see that as lying. He, and to a greater extent Pioli, both seem to think their jobs give them carte blanche to stretch the truth as far as they want to if they deem it beneficial to the team. And the way they decide that is totally arbitrary, and no one can question it. The worst part is they hide it all behind this ridiculous "family business" platitude. Essentially, they're trying to use their jobs to get around basic human decency. Its fucked up. Imagine if anyone else behaved in that way? "I've decided its in the best interests of my team, my "family" if you will, to never answer any question I don't feel like answering. Instead, I'll be condescending, entitled and evasive. And sometimes I'll just straight-up lie. But rest assured, this isn't for me. Its for the family."

Great article, all those who bash the media without even thinking about what they say need to take some time to read this carefully. The Wright hate was just stupid, I still can't believe some of the comments I saw about him, and most of them came from people that didn't even know he was a radio host.

@LennyNightwolf People were downright nasty about Wright. He gets mad venom. I don't understand it.

i wonder who would've taken the reigns? crennel? carthon? jones?? hali looks surprisingly at ease standing next to that maniac in the nuggets hat.

Can you imagine if they made Thomas Jones the coach. I would have had to do a live web cast of Big Matt's head exploding. My guess is it would have been Romeo. @The Centaur

@The Centaur And they would have lured Vrabel back to be DC.

Tommy Jones as intrim coach, that would be funny enough to keep me watching at least.

@sidibeke @The Centaur Vrabel will work for us again in some capacity. Of that, I am certain. I mean Pioli is probably gonna be our GM for at least the next 10 years. He'll be brainstorming ways to get Vrabel back in the fold every offseason. Thats probably why he was so unprepared for free agency when it happened. He'd spent the last several months negotiating exclusively with Vrabel.

@The Centaur Point of order: its a Rockets hat. But yeah, this is not my sanest look. He must've been pretty weirded out. I LOL'ed at "Jones??" But then I considered the possibility that he might actually end up as a coach some day. That.......was not a pleasant thought.

i wonder who would've taken the reigns? crennel? carthon? jones?? hali looks surprisingly at ease standing next to that maniac in the nuggets hat.

i wonder who would've taken the reigns? crennel? carthon? jones?? hali looks surprisingly at ease standing next to that maniac in the nuggets hat.

Big Matt your title is Onion-worthy! It is frustrating that the Chiefs are so tight lipped. If that it how they want to things that is cool I guess but they can't really get too upset when speculation happens because they don't give anyone any information. I think there is probably a leak at Arrowhead. Are they a credible leak? That I don't know.

Killer post big matt. Very strong article. In my opinion, there has to be a leak. Wright is giving us info on what he hears, and to release such information that obviously will create a huge buzz had to come from someone of importance to the organization, someone whos word means something. For a radio host to make this up would be completey idiotic, and afraid Nick Wright is not that. It came from somewhere, we just dont know where, but my guess is that leak who means something to the organization. Do you really think if some bum on the street said "hey nick, chiefs were going to deal Haley if they didnt beat the colts," that he would go broadcast this in turn? No way. Pioli is a coward and is the one who needs delt, and he needs to bring his master Hunt along with him. Cant stress enough how I hate what Hunt and Pioli are doing to this organization.

I think your right on man, they are feeding us with lies but that should come to no surprise to anyone. Google stadium? Haha f*ck off Hunt. Money hungry coward.

apologies. who is that in the photo? i find pioli's behavior exhausting. whereas haley, as he says, more often than not is plain spoken about his mistakes.