Never Go Against The Family

by Chiefs

 “As I’ve conveyed over the last three years, everything that happens within these walls is family business.”

— Coach Todd Haley, “responding” to questions about Friday’s alleged
Thomas Jones-Jonathan Baldwin locker-room bout

“I thought I did address it…I addressed it as family business…I’m sorry if you didn’t think that.”

— Haley, when asked about it again three days later

Well, there you have it, Chiefs fans. Just in case you didn’t already realize you weren’t truly part of this “family,”* there are apparently certain things that only “family” gets to talk about—and that doesn’t include you.

*Hey, remember that whole months-long argument over how to divide the “family” finances? And remember how you weren’t allowed to say anything, even though you’ve anted up a chunk of your allowance for who-knows-how-many years?

Yes, the Pioli Administration has always been notorious for its stonewalling, and its newspeak has been well-documented and well-dissected on this site. But am I the only one who feels this “family business” business has taken it up a notch—and, frankly, is just a little creepy?*

Resemblance? What resemblance? They're just two regular guys who each have a family business to run.

*What exactly did happen to Jonathan Baldwin in that locker room? A guy with a reputation for not fitting in injures his thumb and suddenly, uh, nobody don’t know nuttin’ about it? We haven’t seen any pictures, but reports are that it’s a “cracked thumb”—like the kinda boo-boo you might get from, oh, I don’t know, a hammer? You know, sometimes you just gotta straighten a guy out with whatever tool’s available, capiche? Hey, it’s just family business.

And, hmmmm, is it merely coincidence that only hours later, Justin Houston—another guy who, uh, don’t quite fit the Right 53 mold, you know?—is out running all over the field in Baltimore like a madman? Almost, one might say, as if his life depended on it?

The arguments back and forth have gone like this: Even if we fans aren’t part of the immediate family, this particular bit of family business has an impact on us—Baldwin could even miss a couple of games that actually count—which makes it fan business, too.

But many—not just Haley (speaking as instructed by Pioli)—have argued that a team needs to keep certain things private to build cohesion, especially after a long lockout. “We look at ourselves as a family and we try to protect that,” Chiefs WR Jerheme Urban told ESPN.com. (And as long as Urban toes the family line, it seems, his loyalty is being rewarded.)

The problem is that this particular incident is not private—everyone knows about it, they just don’t know about it directly from the Chiefs’ leadership or players. And protecting the “family”—whether that means protecting it from others who thought they were also part of the family or not—isn’t that same as pretending something didn’t happen.

But what’s most frustrating of all to me is the context, which is necessary here—namely, that this is still the damn preseason. And here’s the truth: if “fan business” is the product the team puts on the field for us to consume during the season, than whatever happens in these weeks leading up to it, when they are still getting that product ready for the marketplace, really isn’t our business yet—even if they want to hold their little exhibition games and pretend (and charge us) as if it is. It’s another reason why I am kinda, sorta boycotting until September. Seriously, when it comes to taunting fans, the lockout had nothing on the preseason. The games that count can’t get here soon enough.

But until then, I’m going to spend more time with my family.

 

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"Almost, one might say, as if his life depended on it?" Laugh

@Celtks Too funny! Cement shoes for Johnny B? I just don't understand the Chiefs' handling of this matter. When ever my family gatherings end up with fist fights and broken bones I always find that it is best to spread the word as far and as wide as possible, yeah right.

@ntrwriter Right on the mark! Baldwin isn't ready to deal with this and I am sure TJ actions will be the end of this. I not worried either as you mentioned (and I'll add Miles Austin to your list) Haley is the "WR Whispher". Exactly how it should have been handled. Any other response would have fueled the media to play it up.

I myself don't really mind if the truth never comes out regarding what happened between the two. Rumors could potentially get blown out of proportion by the media attempting to conjur up a story. This is a can of worms best left unopened. I want to know what happened too but I completely understand what haley is saying about not letting this get out. Heres to Todd.

@ntrwriter Do not agree. First the Chiefs are only closed mouth with local media. Haley was more than willing to talk to AZ paper and Pioli gets the word out to NE sites. No, selective silence is good enough for us and why any accept this is a mystery to me. The "family business" saga is just a case of how stupid we think you are. If a media type said Would you comment on Matt Cassel being found with 40 naked age girls and on the Plaza stopping traffic protesting the flooding of the MO river? I bet Haley would laugh out and say are you nuts. Not "this id family business and we do not talk about it". But a minor, nothing incident, Haley acted like he had never heard of it and it was family business. Just a big rock the Chiefs hide behind and we accept as gospel. The incident mentioned above did NOT happen.

@ntrwriter I agree. In fact, I don't think the team should ever discuss interpersonal disputes among its players. Just as in any other business, those things would be between the managers and the employees, so too here. Furthermore, I don't want any player thrown under the bus by being singled out as a troublemaker or something. Not good for team morale if they can't trust their coaches to not embarrass them in front of the media. I'm sorry, I know that the media thinks they're entitled to know everything about everyone, but frankly I'm glad Pioli and Haley keep things close to the vest. When the media cries about not getting some sort of coverage, I just can't feel sorry for them, especially with their tendency to over dramatize a story, or to write it in the context of their own preconceived narrative.

Look, I don't always agree with the way that Haley and Pioli handle business with the media, but in this case I think I get it. Everyone keeps complaining that we - the fans - have a right to know what went on between Baldwin and Jones because we're the customers, effectively Chiefs' shareholders. HOWEVER, what I think both Haley and Pioli understand is that Baldwin isn't ready for that kind of public scrutiny. Suppose the story goes something like this: Baldwin - who has done absolutely nothing in the NFL to date - was talking shit to our Pro-Bowl running back, Jamaal Charles because Charles was criticizing his attitude/blocking/whatever. The whole team, by the way, thinks Baldwin is complete punk-ass. Jones has a word with him in the weight room. Baldwin pops off, the situation gets heated and our #1 draft pick ends up falling to the floor holding his thumb crying like some punk-bitch. Suppose all this makes it to the public and our "diva" decides he's already burned in KC and goes into a shell. If he's the "diva" that people seem to think he is, he's probably not ready for this. Keeping it "in house" and allowing his head coach to sit him down away from the media and tell him straight up what an idiot he is and that he'd better find a way to lose that attitude and become an NFL receiver may be exactly what Baldwin needs. I'm not saying this is exactly what has happened, but I'm giving Haley the benefit of the doubt. He helped Fitzgerald and Breaston in Arizona and he seems to have turned Bowe into a freaking animal - if the preseason is any indication, but we'll see in September.

Perhaps you missed the true significance of bringing in Sabby (AKA "Jersey Shore" and "Sabby the Sapper") Piscatelli. Jones took the rap for the Baldwin hit, but the word is Sabby the Sapper is the real enforcer on the team, brought in from the East Coast on loan from the Gambinos. Even a casual observer can tell his roster designation of safety is just a cover, I mean really, who would buy the guy knows how to be a safety. The thirsty media and fans always want to know absolutely everything about the team, and I'm including myself. I have to admit, despite this, it's better for the Chief's to indeed keep internal issues "in the family". How many examples have we seen of how ugly airing out the family laundry in the media can get. So if I was yuose, I'd keep yer trap shut, or you'll be swimming with the fishes faster than you can say mackerel.

Big Matt 199 pts

"Almost, one might say, as if his life depended on it?"

Laugh

UTLonghornsKC 13 pts

I myself don't really mind if the truth never comes out regarding what happened between the two. Rumors could potentially get blown out of proportion by the media attempting to conjur up a story. This is a can of worms best left unopened.

I want to know what happened too but I completely understand what haley is saying about not letting this get out. Heres to Todd.

ntrwriter 6 pts

Look, I don't always agree with the way that Haley and Pioli handle business with the media, but in this case I think I get it. Everyone keeps complaining that we - the fans - have a right to know what went on between Baldwin and Jones because we're the customers, effectively Chiefs' shareholders. HOWEVER, what I think both Haley and Pioli understand is that Baldwin isn't ready for that kind of public scrutiny. Suppose the story goes something like this: Baldwin - who has done absolutely nothing in the NFL to date - was talking shit to our Pro-Bowl running back, Jamaal Charles because Charles was criticizing his attitude/blocking/whatever. The whole team, by the way, thinks Baldwin is complete punk-ass. Jones has a word with him in the weight room. Baldwin pops off, the situation gets heated and our #1 draft pick ends up falling to the floor holding his thumb crying like some punk-bitch. Suppose all this makes it to the public and our "diva" decides he's already burned in KC and goes into a shell.

If he's the "diva" that people seem to think he is, he's probably not ready for this. Keeping it "in house" and allowing his head coach to sit him down away from the media and tell him straight up what an idiot he is and that he'd better find a way to lose that attitude and become an NFL receiver may be exactly what Baldwin needs.

I'm not saying this is exactly what has happened, but I'm giving Haley the benefit of the doubt. He helped Fitzgerald and Breaston in Arizona and he seems to have turned Bowe into a freaking animal - if the preseason is any indication, but we'll see in September.

bossmanham 21 pts

ntrwriter I agree. In fact, I don't think the team should ever discuss interpersonal disputes among its players. Just as in any other business, those things would be between the managers and the employees, so too here. Furthermore, I don't want any player thrown under the bus by being singled out as a troublemaker or something. Not good for team morale if they can't trust their coaches to not embarrass them in front of the media.

I'm sorry, I know that the media thinks they're entitled to know everything about everyone, but frankly I'm glad Pioli and Haley keep things close to the vest. When the media cries about not getting some sort of coverage, I just can't feel sorry for them, especially with their tendency to over dramatize a story, or to write it in the context of their own preconceived narrative.

tm1946 183 pts

ntrwriter

Do not agree. First the Chiefs are only closed mouth with local media. Haley was more than willing to talk to AZ paper and Pioli gets the word out to NE sites. No, selective silence is good enough for us and why any accept this is a mystery to me.

The "family business" saga is just a case of how stupid we think you are. If a media type said Would you comment on Matt Cassel being found with 40 naked age girls and on the Plaza stopping traffic protesting the flooding of the MO river? I bet Haley would laugh out and say are you nuts. Not "this id family business and we do not talk about it". But a minor, nothing incident, Haley acted like he had never heard of it and it was family business. Just a big rock the Chiefs hide behind and we accept as gospel.

The incident mentioned above did NOT happen.

KC MikeG 319 pts

ntrwriter

Right on the mark! Baldwin isn't ready to deal with this and I am sure TJ actions will be the end of this. I not worried either as you mentioned (and I'll add Miles Austin to your list) Haley is the "WR Whispher". Exactly how it should have been handled. Any other response would have fueled the media to play it up.

Celtks 40 pts

Perhaps you missed the true significance of bringing in Sabby (AKA "Jersey Shore" and "Sabby the Sapper") Piscatelli. Jones took the rap for the Baldwin hit, but the word is Sabby the Sapper is the real enforcer on the team, brought in from the East Coast on loan from the Gambinos. Even a casual observer can tell his roster designation of safety is just a cover, I mean really, who would buy the guy knows how to be a safety.

The thirsty media and fans always want to know absolutely everything about the team, and I'm including myself. I have to admit, despite this, it's better for the Chief's to indeed keep internal issues "in the family". How many examples have we seen of how ugly airing out the family laundry in the media can get.

So if I was yuose, I'd keep yer trap shut, or you'll be swimming with the fishes faster than you can say mackerel.

KC MikeG 319 pts

Celtks

Too funny! Cement shoes for Johnny B? I just don't understand the Chiefs' handling of this matter. When ever my family gatherings end up with fist fights and broken bones I always find that it is best to spread the word as far and as wide as possible, yeah right.