Time For A Dose Of Reality

by Chiefs

Taylor Green

Well I have decided it is time for my yearly dose of reality.  All offseason, through the labor fiasco, the draft, and free agency, I have been building the Chiefs up.  Not only have I been building the team up in my head but I have been building up my own expectations for the Chiefs. 

I have finally decided my expectations are too high and it’s time to give myself, and most of Chiefs Nation, a much needed dose of reality.  Whether you’re looking at the shortened training camp, Todd Haley’s unorthodox approach to the preseason, the difficult schedule, or the recent Jonathan Baldwin news, it is evident the Chiefs have their hands full entering the 2011 season.

Considering how strange the 2011 offseason was, Haley is making the Chiefs training camp and preseason just as strange. While most NFL teams are sticking with their familiar schedule, the Chiefs are approaching the preseason differently.

Haley waited until after the Chiefs first preseason contest, a 25-0 blowout to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, before he had his players in full pads for an entire practice.  Instead of dedicating the majority of the first three preseason games to prepare the first team unit, the Chiefs seem to be working on a steady graduation of intensity.

When asked about the state of the Chiefs through two weeks of preseason practice, third-year head coach Haley had the following to say:

 ”I don’t think we’re out of the woods as far as where we are physically.  The goal is to be ready for Sept. 11 – that’s all really that I’m focused on, and these other things will take care of themselves.”

Haley sat a large number of key starters against the Bucs and by the second half even I had trouble recognizing the names and numbers on the field. By sticking with this formula, the starting group would see about three full quarters of work in the final preseason game instead of the traditional three series.

Maybe this approach is aimed at weathering a late season five-game stretch against New England, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Chicago and the New York Jets that will almost assuredly make or break the Chiefs season. But is this the right approach? Do you want you guys still learning the system during the first few weeks of the regular season?  It does not seem like the most efficient approach to me.

On top of the difficult schedule there are now reports that first round draft pick Jonathan Baldwin could be out for a significant amount of time.  Depending on the reports you read Baldwin could be out anywhere from the rest of the preseason to 6-8 weeks. 

Not only does this does this news slow down the development of a rookie wide receiver, but it also slows the development of the Chiefs receiver corp as a whole.  Just as everyone was starting to beat their chest about an explosive wide receiver corp this happens and the Chiefs are almost back to where they were last year, with just one solid receiver.

Yes the Chiefs still have Steve Breaston who can start, but it is not smart to put all your eggs into a player that has had a significant injury history the last two seasons.  If Breaston goes down, and Baldwin is behind on his developmental curve the Chiefs are back at square one, and all this offseason movement was for nothing. 

What was Baldwin thinking messing with this MAN?!?!?

To add more concerns to the Baldwin injury, it is being reported he was injured by one of his own teammates, Thomas Jones.  While I am sure Jones was in the right, is it smart to have your one remaining veteran offensive leader beating down your rookie first round pick?  What kind of a message does that send?

This makes me concerned about the locker room and the players within that locker room taking sides.  While I am sure 90% of the locker room is siding with Jones, it is still not a good thing to single a guy out and make him an outsider.  This incident could not only single out, and affect Baldwin’s play in 2011 but could also affect his relationship with his teammates in future years.

With veteran leaders like Brian Waters and Mike Vrabel no longer with the team, it makes you wonder who will bring the Chiefs locker room together in 2011.  Obviously it will not be Thomas Jones, so who will step up? 

Maybe I am just blowing this issue out of the water, but in my eyes an unhealthy locker room leads to an unhealthy team.  And we all know that an unhealthy team will struggle to win games, and without winning games the chance of repeating as AFC West Champions is slim to none.

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@sidibeke Amen! Getting really sick of all the negativity. TJ was already a leader! That's why we was involved in the Baldwin ego reduction session. I'm not happy that Baldwin is going to miss more time but TJ's actions will only solidifiy the team and make Baldwin get his act together. Believe me there are things I wish were different about the Chiefs and things that will actually go wrong this year. Sorry Taylor as this next comment isn't just for you but for a few others also (you know who you are) But to constantly whine and complain - digging for what's wrong to the point of making up problems, ignoring the success we have had or wallowing in the failures of the past is just plain wrong.

Seems a bit overly pessimistic to me, especially with one of your key arguments resting on the possibility of Breaston getting hurt. Hell, what if Charles gets hurt? No reason to play that game. And I have a different feeling on the locker room situation. Personally, I think this incident shows that Pioli and Haley weren't wrong to take a flyer on Baldwin. A weak locker room lets a guy like Baldwin get under their skin, change the culture. Did that happen? Nope. Punk mouths off to Charles, and TJ takes care of the situation. Wish he hadn't been injured, but it's clear this KC locker room ain't gonna put up wid no shit. Now I hope Baldwin can swallow his pride, take it in stride and prove on the field he is who he thinks he is.

That's the problem with tall guys. They stand over everyone and feel superior and feel they can take on anyone shorter than them. I made that mistake and got in a fight with a guy outside a bar who couldn't be more than 5-6 or 5-7, it turns out the guy trains and fights in MMA, now he wasn't a world champ or anything but fights in matches all the time and it's without saying I don't. If it wasn't for me making the first move he would have killed me. Same with Jones and Bawldin, Bawldwin towered over Jones and felt superior but small compact guys pack a serious punch. At least I can say I was drunk with Bawldwin it doesn't say much for his intelligents level. So next time Jonathan "Brawl Room" Bawldwin needs to leave the fighting to the peasants but untill he earns himself a new nickname Jonathan "BrawlRoom" Bawldwin is going to stick with him.

@tm1946@Chief Hokie I'm talking about the Chiefs repeating their plyoff run and possibly going futher into the playoffs this year and I'm not the only one so your "No one is talking" is WRONG! SD was picked last year too and that and a pathetic performance vs. the Bungles got them a seat on the playoffs bench! Wake up and see the truth. The Chiefs WILL NOT be losers again unless you and the rest of you Chicken Littles have psychic abilities!

Boooooo! Wow first sign of a challenge and we are doomed! Woe is me! Come on get real. We made a huge improvement last year from being a crap team for years to being 10-6. Yes some of the teams we played sucked but everyone in our division played pretty much the same schedule and we won the division. Yes we are still looking for the right 53 so that we can continue to improve but that hardly makes us an "expansion team". We are looking for the pieces but have a great solid framework - Cassel, Charles, Bowe, Moeaki, Jones, Albert, Lilja, DJ, Hali, Berry, Dorsey, Flowers and Carr. What difference does it make if we won our 1st game in the rain?? Seems to me that both teams had to deal with the weather and we made the plays to win. Has it been so long since we have been a winning team that the losing is so ingrained that we have to discount our victories? SD "owned" us at their house w/o Cassel why don't we discount that loss vs. choosing to have it define us? Seattle was 7-9 by the way and Oakland couldn't beat them while we kicked their ass! Come on chiefswatch! You state "Is there anything that happened last year that would actually lead you to beleive we will beat half the teams we are to face this year?" REALLY? Yes our schedule is tougher this year but haven't we developed many of our younger players and added more talent/depth through the draft and FA? Didn't we have the #1 rushing attack in the NFL? Didn't DJ and Dorsey get better? Didn't we have a Pro Bowl WR that lead the NFL in TD catches? Didn't we have Pro Bowl Eric Berry and the rest of the rookies contribute except Sheffield who got hurt? Aren't our CB's considered one the best tandems in the NFL? Didn't Cassel go from 16TD/INT to 27TD/7INT? Didn't we have a +9 turn over difference? Go to kcchiefs.com and click on the stats link to find even more reasons we could be as good or better this year like more 1st downs or more offensive yards than our opponents. Plus there is no guarantee that all the tough teams will be so hard to beat. Things change - like the Colts are saying that they may have to start the season w/o Peyton - wouldn't that make much more possible for us to win that game when we nearly won there last year vs Peyton? Being an optimist does not mean that you disregard the facts or don't face "reality". Optimists take an assessment of the facts and examine the possible courses/outcomes and decide what is the most possible positive outcome is - not that there is blind belief w/o reason. Here is an example - the TJ/Charles and Baldwin situation. Many want to throw up their hands and say this is going to set him back and will end up reverting us back to last years Bowe only show. The first part is a fact the later ONE of many different possible outcomes heavily influenced by the "loser" mentality. How about an alternative? Many have stated and it is a historically supported FACT that rookie WR's rarely make a huge contribution and we have added Breaston, Colbert and have a healthy Urban and a developing Tucker/Copper (FACT), that FA options will still be available (FACT) and Baldwin could still contribute this year especially with Haley's record of success with his type (FACT) and maybe Bowe will step up and become the mentor for Baldwin and TJ's knocking his ego down, which has been a source of aggravation to many in camp, will unify the team even more than they already showed last year - now that's the Optimistic part that is supported by many FACTS. Everyone has the right to believe what ever they want but I'll take a healthy dose of FACTS combined with some optimistic faith. Time to let go of the "loser" mentality and start believing in our Chiefs! GO CHIEFS! CHIEFS WILL 2011!!

@Chief Hokie No one is talking about the Chiefs repeating their playoff run. No it is all about 7-9 record. SD is the team picked to win the West. Get it, 10 wins were just so much luck and the Chiefs are losers again. No reason for it but that seems to be the concensus.

@tm1946 Dude what on God's green earth are you talking about?

@chiefswatch The Seahawks were actually 7-9 :(

I think there is a mixture of feeling here. There are the optimists who more less do not allow themselves to accurately gauge last year and the realists who know what last year actually was and are scared to death of seeing what we expect to happen this year. 10-6 was great but honestly does anyone think we would have won Game 1 without the rain and an amped home crowd on MNF. We lost to Oakland twice and San Diego completely owned us later in the season. We beat only one playoff team (the 8-8 Seahawks). With the schedule coming this year is there any real reason we expect to have a winning record? Is there anything that happened last year that would actually lead you to believe we will beat half the teams we are to face this year?

Yeah, I know I'm busting out the "I told you so" way too early, but this does reinforce my feeling that I would much rather have Carimi filling up our (still patchy) O-line than a guy who's physical talent seems wasted on a dumb brain that thinks he's the best and tries to fight his (totally jacked) teammates. We shall see.

hope these last couple games and the baldwin are reality checks and get the team focused on what they need to be doing.

doesn't look good, should have drafted a lineman, O or D. hope haley can fix this guy

I'm not ready to change the season prognosis at all. Yes the Baldwin situation is an undeniable set back from what I hoped, but I think one way or another we will salvage that the best we can. I'm wondering if we are going to stand the pre-season paradigm on it's head. We started with absolutely minimal starter play. The second game we saw 1st quarter play for the most part. If we do we will see more in the 3rd game, and substantial starter play in the 4th game. Very non-traditional. But I can see us taking a roll the ball down the hill approach. It starts of slow but builds momentum. Maybe the plan is to cross the pre-season finish line at a good clip, and take that momentum in the first regular season game. Just a thought.

Does it seem like the Chiefs are searching for something. Almost like this team does not believe what happened last year meant anything or even happened.even. Do not seem to be building on it but looking for more parts for this season. I do not have the right words for it but it is almost a expansion team attitude, constantly trying to find some help any where but on last years ending roster. Do you get the feeling this team wants to defend its AFC West leadership, I do not.

sidibeke 259 pts

Seems a bit overly pessimistic to me, especially with one of your key arguments resting on the possibility of Breaston getting hurt. Hell, what if Charles gets hurt? No reason to play that game.

And I have a different feeling on the locker room situation. Personally, I think this incident shows that Pioli and Haley weren't wrong to take a flyer on Baldwin. A weak locker room lets a guy like Baldwin get under their skin, change the culture. Did that happen? Nope. Punk mouths off to Charles, and TJ takes care of the situation. Wish he hadn't been injured, but it's clear this KC locker room ain't gonna put up wid no shit.

Now I hope Baldwin can swallow his pride, take it in stride and prove on the field he is who he thinks he is.

KC MikeG 319 pts

sidibeke

Amen! Getting really sick of all the negativity. TJ was already a leader! That's why we was involved in the Baldwin ego reduction session. I'm not happy that Baldwin is going to miss more time but TJ's actions will only solidifiy the team and make Baldwin get his act together. Believe me there are things I wish were different about the Chiefs and things that will actually go wrong this year. Sorry Taylor as this next comment isn't just for you but for a few others also (you know who you are) But to constantly whine and complain - digging for what's wrong to the point of making up problems, ignoring the success we have had or wallowing in the failures of the past is just plain wrong.

FmsAmos 13 pts

That's the problem with tall guys. They stand over everyone and feel superior and feel they can take on anyone shorter than them. I made that mistake and got in a fight with a guy outside a bar who couldn't be more than 5-6 or 5-7, it turns out the guy trains and fights in MMA, now he wasn't a world champ or anything but fights in matches all the time and it's without saying I don't. If it wasn't for me making the first move he would have killed me. Same with Jones and Bawldin, Bawldwin towered over Jones and felt superior but small compact guys pack a serious punch. At least I can say I was drunk with Bawldwin it doesn't say much for his intelligents level. So next time Jonathan "Brawl Room" Bawldwin needs to leave the fighting to the peasants but untill he earns himself a new nickname Jonathan "BrawlRoom" Bawldwin is going to stick with him.

KC MikeG 319 pts

Boooooo! Wow first sign of a challenge and we are doomed! Woe is me! Come on get real. We made a huge improvement last year from being a crap team for years to being 10-6. Yes some of the teams we played sucked but everyone in our division played pretty much the same schedule and we won the division. Yes we are still looking for the right 53 so that we can continue to improve but that hardly makes us an "expansion team". We are looking for the pieces but have a great solid framework - Cassel, Charles, Bowe, Moeaki, Jones, Albert, Lilja, DJ, Hali, Berry, Dorsey, Flowers and Carr.

What difference does it make if we won our 1st game in the rain?? Seems to me that both teams had to deal with the weather and we made the plays to win. Has it been so long since we have been a winning team that the losing is so ingrained that we have to discount our victories? SD "owned" us at their house w/o Cassel why don't we discount that loss vs. choosing to have it define us? Seattle was 7-9 by the way and Oakland couldn't beat them while we kicked their ass! Come on chiefswatch! You state "Is there anything that happened last year that would actually lead you to beleive we will beat half the teams we are to face this year?" REALLY? Yes our schedule is tougher this year but haven't we developed many of our younger players and added more talent/depth through the draft and FA? Didn't we have the #1 rushing attack in the NFL? Didn't DJ and Dorsey get better? Didn't we have a Pro Bowl WR that lead the NFL in TD catches? Didn't we have Pro Bowl Eric Berry and the rest of the rookies contribute except Sheffield who got hurt? Aren't our CB's considered one the best tandems in the NFL? Didn't Cassel go from 16TD/INT to 27TD/7INT? Didn't we have a +9 turn over difference? Go to kcchiefs.com and click on the stats link to find even more reasons we could be as good or better this year like more 1st downs or more offensive yards than our opponents. Plus there is no guarantee that all the tough teams will be so hard to beat. Things change - like the Colts are saying that they may have to start the season w/o Peyton - wouldn't that make much more possible for us to win that game when we nearly won there last year vs Peyton?

Being an optimist does not mean that you disregard the facts or don't face "reality". Optimists take an assessment of the facts and examine the possible courses/outcomes and decide what is the most possible positive outcome is - not that there is blind belief w/o reason. Here is an example - the TJ/Charles and Baldwin situation. Many want to throw up their hands and say this is going to set him back and will end up reverting us back to last years Bowe only show. The first part is a fact the later ONE of many different possible outcomes heavily influenced by the "loser" mentality. How about an alternative? Many have stated and it is a historically supported FACT that rookie WR's rarely make a huge contribution and we have added Breaston, Colbert and have a healthy Urban and a developing Tucker/Copper (FACT), that FA options will still be available (FACT) and Baldwin could still contribute this year especially with Haley's record of success with his type (FACT) and maybe Bowe will step up and become the mentor for Baldwin and TJ's knocking his ego down, which has been a source of aggravation to many in camp, will unify the team even more than they already showed last year - now that's the Optimistic part that is supported by many FACTS.

Everyone has the right to believe what ever they want but I'll take a healthy dose of FACTS combined with some optimistic faith. Time to let go of the "loser" mentality and start believing in our Chiefs! GO CHIEFS! CHIEFS WILL 2011!!

chiefswatch 81 pts

I think there is a mixture of feeling here. There are the optimists who more less do not allow themselves to accurately gauge last year and the realists who know what last year actually was and are scared to death of seeing what we expect to happen this year. 10-6 was great but honestly does anyone think we would have won Game 1 without the rain and an amped home crowd on MNF. We lost to Oakland twice and San Diego completely owned us later in the season. We beat only one playoff team (the 8-8 Seahawks).

With the schedule coming this year is there any real reason we expect to have a winning record? Is there anything that happened last year that would actually lead you to believe we will beat half the teams we are to face this year?

Chief Hokie 87 pts

chiefswatch The Seahawks were actually 7-9 :(

NicholasAlanClayton 16 pts

Yeah, I know I'm busting out the "I told you so" way too early, but this does reinforce my feeling that I would much rather have Carimi filling up our (still patchy) O-line than a guy who's physical talent seems wasted on a dumb brain that thinks he's the best and tries to fight his (totally jacked) teammates. We shall see.

Jeremy from Creekside 10 pts

hope these last couple games and the baldwin are reality checks and get the team focused on what they need to be doing.

Jeremy from Creekside 10 pts

doesn't look good, should have drafted a lineman, O or D. hope haley can fix this guy

Celtks 40 pts

I'm not ready to change the season prognosis at all. Yes the Baldwin situation is an undeniable set back from what I hoped, but I think one way or another we will salvage that the best we can. I'm wondering if we are going to stand the pre-season paradigm on it's head. We started with absolutely minimal starter play. The second game we saw 1st quarter play for the most part. If we do we will see more in the 3rd game, and substantial starter play in the 4th game. Very non-traditional. But I can see us taking a roll the ball down the hill approach. It starts of slow but builds momentum. Maybe the plan is to cross the pre-season finish line at a good clip, and take that momentum in the first regular season game.

Just a thought.

tm1946 183 pts

Does it seem like the Chiefs are searching for something. Almost like this team does not believe what happened last year meant anything or even happened.even. Do not seem to be building on it but looking for more parts for this season. I do not have the right words for it but it is almost a expansion team attitude, constantly trying to find some help any where but on last years ending roster. Do you get the feeling this team wants to defend its AFC West leadership, I do not.

Chief Hokie 87 pts

tm1946 Dude what on God's green earth are you talking about?

tm1946 183 pts

Chief Hokie

No one is talking about the Chiefs repeating their playoff run. No it is all about 7-9 record. SD is the team picked to win the West. Get it, 10 wins were just so much luck and the Chiefs are losers again. No reason for it but that seems to be the concensus.

KC MikeG 319 pts

tm1946Chief Hokie

I'm talking about the Chiefs repeating their plyoff run and possibly going futher into the playoffs this year and I'm not the only one so your "No one is talking" is WRONG! SD was picked last year too and that and a pathetic performance vs. the Bungles got them a seat on the playoffs bench! Wake up and see the truth. The Chiefs WILL NOT be losers again unless you and the rest of you Chicken Littles have psychic abilities!