There Are Still Some Holes

@tm1946 What on earth are you babbling about? Where in my post did I say anything about Haley being forced to do anything?? You say believe what I want?? That makes no sense at all. My post simply repeats what Haley said in his press conference that you obviously either didn't listen to or aren't capable of understanding. You state that he "says some piece of crap" but in reality he said we sucked to make it as clear as I can for you which is exactly what you were saying in your original post but then you critize him for not being honest?? Try listening to his press conference and reading your post slowly before you try another response. GO CHIEFS! CHIEFS WILL 2011!!

@KC MikeG You mean someone made Haley put his 2nd string out there to start the game? He saved his stars and was forced to put that junk on the field? Put his starting QB behind a 3rd string C? Featured Mc at running back? Stood there all game while hs backups were not preforming with such a nasty frown on his face? Then says some piece of crap , "we try to win", guess what not last nite but believe what you want.

@tm1946 Did you even listen to Haley's press conference?? It was only 8:29. He said that you never want to look like that - especially on your home field, that he was disappointed with the poor tackling which is a major focus this year as it costs us games last year, that our QB protection has to get better, that the players didn't show the focus they needed, that they had a lot to work on still in a short time and that it was unacceptable to turn over the ball. What's "all good" about that?? The only positeive he mentioned was Stanzi/Palko being able to be elusive (run for their lives) but that they shouldn't of had too as much as they did (but it was a jail break most of the time), no penalties and that a "hand full of these guys" are going to be able to contribute this year. He also said he thinks that Colbert and Gaither should be able to contribute. Wow really over doing it on the optimism Huh??

@huckdaddy@merlin_AA Ray Lewis was upset at losing Gregg saying he was a major part of why the Ravens D had been so good for so long. Most every Ravens fan wanted him back too. The Ravens cut many veterans because they were over the cap - not because they had nothing left. Toribo and Powe will have to work extra hard to become the "starter" but I am thrilled with the three of them rotating at NT. Way better than Edwards/Perv. Ditto on no more Croyle.

@huckdaddy Plus the special teams and the offense didn't help with the field position TB enjoyed. Cassel's fumble, Battle's fumble, Zeke muff, Lawrence's opening kick return and Chandler letting the punt roll down to our 3 yard line.

@bossmanham No thanks on Collins! I would much rather have Stanzi. He showed great awareness, amazing elusiveness and threw some nice balls all while running for his life on most of his snaps. Impressive for a rookie's 1st game. He does need to learn to throw the ball away but I see us having the QB position filled for years to come.

@cameron I agree Cameron - Powe and Toribo in a rotation while being mentored by Gregg on and off the field this year will serve us well for years. Bailey addition to Dorsey, Jackson and Gilberry gives a a much better DL. Bailey was disruptive last night - saw him being doubled and even saw a couple triple teams!

Actually I thought Toribio and Powe both played decent! And our starter at NT didn't even play last night. So I would say the part where you said our biggest problem is a huge hole at NT has no bearing.

@merlin_AA From what I saw of Powe, he looked better than I would have expected a 6th rounder to look in his first outing. He showed some good persuit, stuffed the middle up a few times, had some tackles. I also saw him get completely pancaked a few times and driven out of plays. It looked to me like conditioning... when he got tire he got pushed around. That will come in time - this season. It is great that we signed Gregg to mentor Powe, and Toribio for that matter. Gregg was a starting NT on possibly the best defence of the past decade. I am sure he has plenty of knowledge to give these guys. Definitly need some more depth at safety, but also in other positions like O-line. The QB situation is an improvement in my opinion. I would rather have either one of Palko or Stanzi come in than Croyle. As long as we are improving it is hard to complain. GO CHIEFS

Lol arn't u being a lol generous on the 2-14 why not be like the lions a few years ago and have that anything but perfect record 0-16 @bossmanham

It was one meaningless game but the Chiefs got their butts kicked. Pioli has aways said he wanted a team built thru the draft. Young hungry players to be here years. That takes time. I doubt anyone who knows diddly about football expect the Chiefs in this year's superbowl. The season starts in Sept and we will see if the Chiefs come out to play then.....if not the thing thrown on the field last nite may explain a lot. Most on those seen last nite will have no important roll during the real season. It would have been nice if Haley had shown some honesty, ckeck out the Chief's site, all is good there.

Also, hasn't Collins been particularly bad lately? Would we really want to pay to bring him in, especially when he plays no better than Palko or Stanzi?

Oh no! What will we do!?!?! Tampa Bay's starters beat up on our 2nd string, 3rd string, and developmental undrafted free agents. Oh woe is us. Even though our second and third string defense held their starters to a field goal several times, it's obvious we're doomed. Here comes another 2-14 season. OH NOES!!!

By looks of things I'm one of the few fans not stressing on our back up qb's I think both could manage a couple of game Gould Cassel go down as for lack of experience you guys remember when our pro bowl qb took his last starting snap b4 Brady went down right? It was in hs and I think he's perty good. Palko isn't bad and could manage a game for us and stanzi showed good mobility heads up play and awareness last night (not that he had a choice for anything else other than that I have to say we do need depth at the other fore mentioned positions Long live ArrowHead

I think what should be focused on for this game is that a group of second and third strigers, most of whom never played together held the starting lineup of the bucs in check pretty well. Sure they moved the ball on us in the first half, but our guys did pretty well. This team will look completely different when our starters are playing. While we may lack some depth at scertain positions, we ARE better off than last year. The more that the backups get as far as playing time, especially against a first string offense, the better! GO CHIEFS!!!!!

What did you think of Powe's play last night? I agree that we need backup safeties, though calling McGraw a journeyman is unfair. He has had a decent career and has done a solid job for us. His career is almost over, so we need to find another backup safety. We could draft one, but that's a prime spot for a vet FA pickup. Piscatelli was signed this year, perhaps with that goal in mind. I am not comfortable with Palko and am hoping a decent vet FA qb is cut loose. IMO, Palko is playing for his job,.

Actually I thought Toribio and Powe both played decent! And our starter at NT didn't even play last night. So I would say the part where you said our biggest problem is a huge hole at NT has no bearing.

It was one meaningless game but the Chiefs got their butts kicked. Pioli has aways said he wanted a team built thru the draft. Young hungry players to be here years. That takes time. I doubt anyone who knows diddly about football expect the Chiefs in this year's superbowl. The season starts in Sept and we will see if the Chiefs come out to play then.....if not the thing thrown on the field last nite may explain a lot. Most on those seen last nite will have no important roll during the real season. It would have been nice if Haley had shown some honesty, ckeck out the Chief's site, all is good there.

Also, hasn't Collins been particularly bad lately? Would we really want to pay to bring him in, especially when he plays no better than Palko or Stanzi?

Oh no! What will we do!?!?! Tampa Bay's starters beat up on our 2nd string, 3rd string, and developmental undrafted free agents. Oh woe is us. Even though our second and third string defense held their starters to a field goal several times, it's obvious we're doomed. Here comes another 2-14 season. OH NOES!!!

By looks of things I'm one of the few fans not stressing on our back up qb's I think both could manage a couple of game Gould Cassel go down as for lack of experience you guys remember when our pro bowl qb took his last starting snap b4 Brady went down right? It was in hs and I think he's perty good. Palko isn't bad and could manage a game for us and stanzi showed good mobility heads up play and awareness last night (not that he had a choice for anything else other than that I have to say we do need depth at the other fore mentioned positions

Long live ArrowHead

I think what should be focused on for this game is that a group of second and third strigers, most of whom never played together held the starting lineup of the bucs in check pretty well. Sure they moved the ball on us in the first half, but our guys did pretty well. This team will look completely different when our starters are playing. While we may lack some depth at scertain positions, we ARE better off than last year. The more that the backups get as far as playing time, especially against a first string offense, the better! GO CHIEFS!!!!!

What did you think of Powe's play last night? I agree that we need backup safeties, though calling McGraw a journeyman is unfair. He has had a decent career and has done a solid job for us. His career is almost over, so we need to find another backup safety. We could draft one, but that's a prime spot for a vet FA pickup. Piscatelli was signed this year, perhaps with that goal in mind. I am not comfortable with Palko and am hoping a decent vet FA qb is cut loose. IMO, Palko is playing for his job,.