Chiefs And Royals Became Eerily Similar

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For most of the time they’ve shared Kansas City, the Chiefs and the Royals have been nothing alike.  They were like the bizarro versions of one another.  When one was bad, the other was good.  The Chiefs ruled the 60s and the 90s, and in the late 70s and most of the 80s KC was firmly Royals country.

It’s not like one team was just a little better than the other at any given time, either.  When the Chiefs were good, the Royals were awful, and vice versa.  The two teams have never been to the playoffs in the same year.  It’s like there was some kind of rule that Kansas City was only allowed to have one competitive team at any given time.

But at least we had one.  In 2007, even that changed.  Kansas City, for the first time in its history, had two consistently terrible teams.  Both were among the worst in their respective leagues for the next three straight years.  Our futility as a sports city was unmatched during this time.  We became a joke, and the fan base became embittered.  Both reacted in different ways.  Royals fans fell back on the self-deprecation they’d honed over the preceding 20 years.  Chiefs Nation, not as used to humiliation and defeat, reacted in a much less mature fashion*.  We shut our eyes, insisted everything was on the right track, swallowed every excuse fed to us, and broke out the torches and pitchforks every time someone dared to suggest all was not well.  It was a dark time in Chiefs fan history.  A dark, shameful time.

Every team has bad stretches, and every sports city goes through disappointing times (except Cleveland, obviously).  What made this stretch so frustrating for me was that our teams were sucking in exactly the same way.  Despicable owners, unintelligent coaches, outdated strategies, bargain-basement payrolls, and underneath it all an inexplicable smugness.  “Uh, we know what we’re doing, Kansas City.  Our eyeballs are never, EVER wrong.”

The free agent signings were remarkably similar:

  • Jason Kendall=Mike Vrabel- Old, slow players who perform poorly by all evaluations and yet start every game and receive endless praise from the organization.  Experience, grit, intangibles, blah blah blah.
  • Jeff Franceour=Thom Jones- OBP and YPC among the worst in the league, respectively.  But yeah, leadership!
  • Horacio Ramirez=Mike Goff- Both brought in to be one starter of five (SP, OL).  Neither lasted close to an entire season.
  • Rick Ankiel=Mike Brown- Both were promised their sport’s version of center field in order to lure them here.  Away from their many other suitors, presumably.

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The spin from both sides also sounded exactly the same.  “It’s not our fault, its this damn small market.  So unfair!  But don’t worry, we’re really, really great at our jobs, and know how to overcome this unjust system.  The intricacies are too complex for the likes of you, but suffice it to say it involves spending less than everyone else, and takes many, many years.  How many?  We can’t answer that.  Just know that however long it takes, its the last regime’s fault.”

They even started behaving the same way towards the media.  Like a**holes, for lack of a better description.  The Royals pulled credentials, the Chiefs attacked reporters for “speculation.”  Dayton Moore threatened to seize employees’ cell-phones, Scott Pioli put Arrowhead on lockdown. It began to look like the teams may even have been consciously imitating each other.  Things looked bleak, in just about every way they could.

I doubt things turn around for the Royals any time soon.  Dayton Moore is hopelessly behind the times.   While good GMs are studying sabermetrics, he’s studying his Bible.  He trusts his eyes above everything else, and thats a disastrous strategy for a baseball GM in the year 2011.

The Chiefs, on the other hand, have a chance to reverse their fortunes and end some of these troubling similarities.  If they do, this turnaround will be for real.  If not…..

The first thing they need to do is end this Royals-like obsession with locker-room leaders and intangibles.  I’m not saying such things don’t exist, but their effect on the game is vastly overrated by announcers, beat writers, and old-timey football men.  And really, can we ever be sure who these stalwart captains of intangibility even are?  No, we cannot.  If something cannot be measured, then……it cannot be measured.  Sorry for the redundancy, but I couldn’t think of a better way to put that.

The next step, and this is something I’ve been saying for a while, is that we need to stop pretending spending less is somehow smarter.  Mark my words, this attitude will have disastrous effects down the line.  And this isn’t just another “Clark needs to spend more” rant.  Ultimately, it doesn’t matter how much we spend if we win.  The problem is that spending less puts a team at a competitive disadvantage.  Yes, some teams that spend a lot make poor decisions with their money.  But thats a reflection of their own incompetence, not of spending $ in the first place.  Willingness to spend is an advantage.  There is no way around this.

Teams can win with low payrolls.  To think your team is winning because of a low payroll is insane.  Yet this is what some Chiefs fans honestly seem to believe.  Does Pioli believe that?  Hard to say.  Clark Hunt knows nothing about football and cares only for profit, so of course he’ll want a low payroll no matter what.  Pioli, on the other hand, is harder to read.  Maybe he just hasn’t found guys he wants to spend on yet, or maybe he was ordered to spend less in anticipation of the lockout.  But if he believes in low payrolls as a matter of course even post-lockout, then essentially he just thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.  Unless he actually is smarter than everyone else, thats a serious problem.

This brief free agent free-for-all, if it ever happens, will be extremely important to watch.  If the Chiefs pinch pennies, bring in has-beens, and talk about what great leaders they are, I expect last year’s 10-6 record will end up looking like a mirage in the long run.  If Pioli rolls up his sleeves and jumps into the fray, even if he misses out on the top guys, I’ll be taking that as a VERY positive sign.

My gut tells me to expect a heaping helping of intangibles and another dead-last payroll.  But my gut has been wrong on Pioli before.  He just might surprise us here.  And if he does, he’ll have me firmly in his camp.

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I'm still believe in the impact of "locker room guys." Look at what the Patriots have been able to do with high-character, mid-round, physically underwhelming guys. Then look at what Dallas has done with probably the most physically talented and star-studded roster in football -- nothing. Jack shiza. I'm not saying its necessarily prudent to trade for "wise old men" players, but if they throw in a franchise QB in the deal, I'd say its not too shabby.

That trade for Cassel definitely looks pretty good in hindsight.  Looked good at the time too, actually. I'm OK with bringing in locker-room guys, but Haley needs to recognize that locker-room leadership happens in the locker-room.  There is no reason Thom Jones and Mike Vrabel have to be starting every game for their supposed leadership to take effect. Also, the Patriots did trade for Randy Moss.  And sign Rodney Harrison.  And Corey Dillon.  Just sayin', it takes a blend.  People like to act like the Patriots did it all homegrown on the cheap, but that actually isn't the case at all.  They're active traders, and fairly active on the free agent market.  A # of important players from each of their championship teams were brought in from elsewhere. 

Big Matt, Happy 4th and thank you thank you thank you for always for keeping it real.

Right back at ya buddy.  One day the Chiefs may just have one of us killed.  If its me, I trust you'll deliver a stirring eulogy.

Happy 4th Bitch Nation! Love the new Vrable and Thomas Jones bashing. I don't have time for a long post today, I have to go celebrate the anniversary of a bunch of rich white slave owners "renegotiating" their money with the british.

Wouldn't the players be the founding fathers in that analogy though?  I mean, the owners would definitely be the British, right?  Attempting to take $$$ off the top before negotiations even begin sounds a lot like taxation without representation. Hope your 4th was good, dawg.  I was ill.  I suspect your boy Clark is responsible somehow. 

There is also a chance owners will be required to spent 90% of the cap as a part of the new CBA

True, but the last time there was a minimum (2009) the Chiefs didn't even make that.

I don't know how you feel about it but I think the minimum (if they do make it) might also be a good thing for the chiefs because it might force their hand a little bit towards giving contracts to Hali,Flowers, Carr, and (hate it or love it) Bowe among other future free agents who may have possible gone elsewhere in the next few years. I am just a fan and if I knew half as much as the people who get paid to do things such as build a roster I wouldn't be in the Army I would be working for some NFL team but I truely believe the path to another Superbowl in KC is through developing the talent we have and filling small holes through Free Agency.. (such a picking up a nose tackle *hint hint Pioli*)

Good point about the minimum.  If we have good players up for free agency, and are millions of dollars under what the MINIMUM payroll is supposed to be, you gotta think the pressure will be on to re-sign those guys.  Starting with Hali, hopefully. 

Look at the Packers roster from last year.. the way to winning is not Free Agency it is through the draft. I would also say the small market tag is a much bigger deal in baseball then it is in football.. The hard salary cap in football is the great equalizer. There are no Yankees in baseball that can have a total team salary that is 100 million more then the average team. The Chiefs may take a step back this year but the arrow(head) is definitely pointing up for the organization. They have a young nucleus of VERY talented players. I say give this team another year or two and they will be a team that can challenge for a championship year in and year out. Mean while the royals boast one of the promising group of prospects in baseball. As for locker room leaders aka "the right 53" I would say that they are vitally important to your team however you have to find the leaders that can also play. You can't have a guy like Vrabel was last year a OBVIOUS hole in the defense that teams routinely attacked. However a leader such as Brian Urlacher can prove to be very valuable to your team.  I would also point to the Bengals in the case of locker room leadership failures. How fast did they go from being an up and coming team to a team that couldn't stay out of jail? You do need some high character guys in your locker room.To steal a quote from probably every mother/father/teacher figure in a kids life "you become who your friends are". Obviously this is just my opinion and we are all entitled to out own.. and the fact of the matter is both teams from my perpective I believe both teams are at a crossroad where the Chiefs can either continue to make themselves better through the continued development of young players, and the Royals will see if the young prospects AKA Hosmer, Moustakas, Myers,Lamb,Colon, Duffy ect ect ect... can develop into a team capable of competing in the AL Central.

Great post Matt, That having been said, my post set to hit later this afternoon gives a little bit different advice for what the Chiefs need to do this year (imagine that?).  I'll be anxious to hear your opinion.

You shall have it. Point-counterpoint.  Classic Graverson/Finucane

Big Matt,
Happy 4th and thank you thank you thank you for always for keeping it real.

Look at the Packers roster from last year.. the way to winning is not Free Agency it is through the draft. I would also say the small market tag is a much bigger deal in baseball then it is in football.. The hard salary cap in football is the great equalizer. There are no Yankees in baseball that can have a total team salary that is 100 million more then the average team.
The Chiefs may take a step back this year but the arrow(head) is definitely pointing up for the organization. They have a young nucleus of VERY talented players. I say give this team another year or two and they will be a team that can challenge for a championship year in and year out.
Mean while the royals boast one of the promising group of prospects in baseball.
As for locker room leaders aka "the right 53" I would say that they are vitally important to your team however you have to find the leaders that can also play. You can't have a guy like Vrabel was last year a OBVIOUS hole in the defense that teams routinely attacked. However a leader such as Brian Urlacher can prove to be very valuable to your team.
 I would also point to the Bengals in the case of locker room leadership failures. How fast did they go from being an up and coming team to a team that couldn't stay out of jail? You do need some high character guys in your locker room.To steal a quote from probably every mother/father/teacher figure in a kids life "you become who your friends are".
Obviously this is just my opinion and we are all entitled to out own.. and the fact of the matter is both teams from my perpective I believe both teams are at a crossroad where the Chiefs can either continue to make themselves better through the continued development of young players, and the Royals will see if the young prospects AKA Hosmer, Moustakas, Myers,Lamb,Colon, Duffy ect ect ect... can develop into a team capable of competing in the AL Central.

Great post Matt,
That having been said, my post set to hit later this afternoon gives a little bit different advice for what the Chiefs need to do this year (imagine that?).  I'll be anxious to hear your opinion.

You shall have it.
Point-counterpoint.  Classic Graverson/Finucane

I'm still believe in the impact of "locker room guys." Look at what the Patriots have been able to do with high-character, mid-round, physically underwhelming guys. Then look at what Dallas has done with probably the most physically talented and star-studded roster in football -- nothing. Jack shiza. I'm not saying its necessarily prudent to trade for "wise old men" players, but if they throw in a franchise QB in the deal, I'd say its not too shabby.

That trade for Cassel definitely looks pretty good in hindsight.  Looked good at the time too, actually.

I'm OK with bringing in locker-room guys, but Haley needs to recognize that locker-room leadership happens in the locker-room.  There is no reason Thom Jones and Mike Vrabel have to be starting every game for their supposed leadership to take effect.

Also, the Patriots did trade for Randy Moss.  And sign Rodney Harrison.  And Corey Dillon.  Just sayin', it takes a blend.  People like to act like the Patriots did it all homegrown on the cheap, but that actually isn't the case at all.  They're active traders, and fairly active on the free agent market.  A # of important players from each of their championship teams were brought in from elsewhere. 

That trade for Cassel definitely looks pretty good in hindsight.  Looked good at the time too, actually.
I'm OK with bringing in locker-room guys, but Haley needs to recognize that locker-room leadership happens in the locker-room.  There is no reason Thom Jones and Mike Vrabel have to be starting every game for their supposed leadership to take effect.
Also, the Patriots did trade for Randy Moss.  And sign Rodney Harrison.  And Corey Dillon.  Just sayin', it takes a blend.  People like to act like the Patriots did it all homegrown on the cheap, but that actually isn't the case at all.  They're active traders, and fairly active on the free agent market.  A # of important players from each of their championship teams were brought in from elsewhere. 

Big Matt,

Happy 4th and thank you thank you thank you for always for keeping it real.

Right back at ya buddy.  One day the Chiefs may just have one of us killed.  If its me, I trust you'll deliver a stirring eulogy.

Happy 4th Bitch Nation! Love the new Vrable and Thomas Jones bashing.
I don't have time for a long post today, I have to go celebrate the anniversary of a bunch of rich white slave owners "renegotiating" their money with the british.

Wouldn't the players be the founding fathers in that analogy though?  I mean, the owners would definitely be the British, right?  Attempting to take $$$ off the top before negotiations even begin sounds a lot like taxation without representation.

Hope your 4th was good, dawg.  I was ill.  I suspect your boy Clark is responsible somehow. 

Wouldn't the players be the founding fathers in that analogy though?  I mean, the owners would definitely be the British, right?  Attempting to take $$$ off the top before negotiations even begin sounds a lot like taxation without representation.
Hope your 4th was good, dawg.  I was ill.  I suspect your boy Clark is responsible somehow. 

Been saying basically the same for a long time, actually since the last change of regimes at Arrowhead.

There is also a chance owners will be required to spent 90% of the cap as a part of the new CBA

True, but the last time there was a minimum (2009) the Chiefs didn't even make that.

I don't know how you feel about it but I think the minimum (if they do make it) might also be a good thing for the chiefs because it might force their hand a little bit towards giving contracts to Hali,Flowers, Carr, and (hate it or love it) Bowe among other future free agents who may have possible gone elsewhere in the next few years.

I am just a fan and if I knew half as much as the people who get paid to do things such as build a roster I wouldn't be in the Army I would be working for some NFL team but I truely believe the path to another Superbowl in KC is through developing the talent we have and filling small holes through Free Agency.. (such a picking up a nose tackle *hint hint Pioli*)

Good point about the minimum.  If we have good players up for free agency, and are millions of dollars under what the MINIMUM payroll is supposed to be, you gotta think the pressure will be on to re-sign those guys. 

Starting with Hali, hopefully. 

I don't know how you feel about it but I think the minimum (if they do make it) might also be a good thing for the chiefs because it might force their hand a little bit towards giving contracts to Hali,Flowers, Carr, and (hate it or love it) Bowe among other future free agents who may have possible gone elsewhere in the next few years.
I am just a fan and if I knew half as much as the people who get paid to do things such as build a roster I wouldn't be in the Army I would be working for some NFL team but I truely believe the path to another Superbowl in KC is through developing the talent we have and filling small holes through Free Agency.. (such a picking up a nose tackle *hint hint Pioli*)

Good point about the minimum.  If we have good players up for free agency, and are millions of dollars under what the MINIMUM payroll is supposed to be, you gotta think the pressure will be on to re-sign those guys. 
Starting with Hali, hopefully. 

Look at the Packers roster from last year.. the way to winning is not Free Agency it is through the draft. I would also say the small market tag is a much bigger deal in baseball then it is in football.. The hard salary cap in football is the great equalizer. There are no Yankees in baseball that can have a total team salary that is 100 million more then the average team.

The Chiefs may take a step back this year but the arrow(head) is definitely pointing up for the organization. They have a young nucleus of VERY talented players. I say give this team another year or two and they will be a team that can challenge for a championship year in and year out.

Mean while the royals boast one of the promising group of prospects in baseball.

As for locker room leaders aka "the right 53" I would say that they are vitally important to your team however you have to find the leaders that can also play. You can't have a guy like Vrabel was last year a OBVIOUS hole in the defense that teams routinely attacked. However a leader such as Brian Urlacher can prove to be very valuable to your team.

 I would also point to the Bengals in the case of locker room leadership failures. How fast did they go from being an up and coming team to a team that couldn't stay out of jail? You do need some high character guys in your locker room.To steal a quote from probably every mother/father/teacher figure in a kids life "you become who your friends are".

Obviously this is just my opinion and we are all entitled to out own.. and the fact of the matter is both teams from my perpective I believe both teams are at a crossroad where the Chiefs can either continue to make themselves better through the continued development of young players, and the Royals will see if the young prospects AKA Hosmer, Moustakas, Myers,Lamb,Colon, Duffy ect ect ect... can develop into a team capable of competing in the AL Central.

Great post Matt,

That having been said, my post set to hit later this afternoon gives a little bit different advice for what the Chiefs need to do this year (imagine that?).  I'll be anxious to hear your opinion.

You shall have it.

Point-counterpoint.  Classic Graverson/Finucane