KC Chiefs 2011: The Draft of 1,000 Storylines

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This must be how some of you felt in 2008 and 2010.  This draft class has me totally enthralled.  My mind is spinning with possibilities.  Nearly every pick makes perfect sense to me, and a lot of them are right up my alley.  Our GM took bold risks, pulled off a successful trade back, filled all of our major needs, and in the process provided us with the most interesting draft class of all time.

Bravo, Pioli.  This should be a proud moment for you.  You’ve earned some unabashed dap from one of your harshest critics.  Take your family out for a nice seafood dinner at the Captain D’s on 63rd and Troost, and tell ‘em Big Matt sent ya.  My name used to mean something over there*.  Should still be good for a free pint of slaw.

*My lust for cod and hush puppies got them through some lean years.  And I eventually founded a scholarship program based out of their drive-through.  It was called Big Matt’s Friendly Fishermen.  We taught inner city kids to catch fish in the Missouri River and bring them to Captain D’s in exchange for school supplies and expired foodstuffs.  The program was eventually shut down by the government and the board of directors indicted for violating child labor laws.  I managed to avoid prison time by ratting on all of my colleagues.  Most of them are dead now.  So many memories.

I couldn’t blame someone for not liking this class.  Pioli and the Chiefs made a lot of noise last year about character.  If you really bought into what they were selling, I can understand being upset now.  Scott Pioli has done an abrupt about-face.  He chased measurables at the expense of Vrabels.  This is one thing we thought he’d never do.

more post-draft chat with your boy Big Matt after the jump:

I’m fine with it.  Because I trust his judgement implicitly?   Uh, no.  Because I like these picks.  And I like what they represent.  Five years from now I think it will be this draft, not last year’s, that we look back on as Pioli’s masterpiece.

An outrageous claim?  I don’t think so.  He went into last year’s draft with so much more to work with.  Significantly higher picks in every round, the #5 overall pick, an extra 2nd rounder, three fifth rounders.  His cupboard was full.  This year, on several occasions, he was lookin’ like Rumplestiltskin out there, spinning gold from straw.  Turned a late first round pick into Jonathan Baldwin and Justin Houston, two players with upside as high as almost anyone in the draft.  Made legitimately interesting picks in the fifth, sixth and seventh rounds, which is no easy task. 

A replacement for Croyle?  A fullback from Yale?  An understudy for my boy Sweet Ron*?  This draft felt like a trip to Worlds of Fun.  Awesome rides all over the place.  If Shane Bannon makes the team I’ll be sporting a Yale hat this fall.

*Word is Sweet Ron snuck into the warroom in a fake mustache and phoned in the Powe pick himself.

Day two in particular will be looked back on as a great day in Chiefs history.  All three of those picks were tremendous.  Rodney Hudson combines great value with a position of dire need.    Rarely do those things match up so perfectly.  This is the type of player I was looking for in the second round last year.  He doesn’t have quite the ceiling of some of our other picks, but he’s the most decorated lineman in ACC history  (yes I just touted that) and he’ll keep us from having to watch Rudy Niswanger ever again.  Fantastic pick.

Justin Houston is a first round talent who fell because of outdated perspectives.  I can see being nervous about him failing a drug test, but if you don’t like him simply because he smokes marijuana you need to get with the times.  Marijauna is already legal in some states, and will be legal in all of them before Houston’s career in the NFL is over.  It isn’t physically addictive, it isn’t man-made, and the activities it lends itself to (playing video games, watching movies, giggling, listening to music) are among the safest ways young athletes can spend their time.  You should hope Chiefs players smoke weed.  Because every night they spend stoney at home is a night they aren’t out at the club.  If you could pick one of those activities for our young players to engage in, which would it be?  These guys are young and rich.   They aren’t angels.  I’ll take potheads over party animals any day.

It just so happens one of those ways of life, the one that actually hurts and even kills people, is greeted with a “boys will be boys” attitude in this country while the other is demonized and slandered.  We watch commercials for alcohol on television every day but a guy who so much as smokes a doobie has character concerns.  The double-standard is ridiculous.  Fall back on “marijuana is illegal!” if you want to.  But beware: that defense will soon be taken away from you.  Millions of people, Justin Houston included, will be vindicated on that day of reckoning.

Off the soapbox.

I know some of you aren’t thrilled with the Allen Bailey pick, and admittedly it isn’t quite as exciting as the preceding three.  As has been said elsewhere, Bailey was a value pick.  There are vague concerns about his consistency, and his tape isn’t overly impressive.  But this guy recorded seven sacks each of the last two seasons and five the season before that.  Whoever else you may have been coveting with that pick, Bailey is another player with an excellent pedigree for our front seven.  The only question is where he fits in.

The Chiefs now find themselves in a position where the 3-4 OLB/situational pass rusher positions are very crowded.  Tamba Hali has one of those spots on lockdown.  The Student Baker, Wallace Gilberry, Houston, and even developmental prospects like Cameron Sheffield and Gabe Miller all figure to be vying for playing time as pass rushers opposite Hali.  Hell, even Mike Vrabel could be brought back (sigh).  There doesn’t seem to be a lot of need for Bailey there.  If the intent was to make him into a linebacker or situational pass rusher, this may indeed have been a redundant pick, value or not.

I think the intent is for him to be a straight-up 3-4 end.  His past experience lends itself to that in my mind.  He actually played some defensive tackle in college, and was better there than at end from what I’ve read.  What seems more likely, that they’d try to shoehorn him into our most crowded position, or that he’ll play the position where we currently have Tyson Jackson pencilled in as a starter?  The answer seems obvious.  

I’m not saying Pioli is abandoning his boy the Man of Tin.  Jackson will most definitely open the season as the starter.  But I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Bailey stealing his playing time by season’s end.  A 3-4 end who could rush the passer in base sets?  Dare I dream this dream?

This draft definitely gets the Big Matt seal of approval.  Fascinating picks all around.  I feel rejuvenated.  I feel alive!  I feel like hugging a stranger.  Unfortunately all the strangers in my neighborhood are Polish, and I’m pretty sure most of them hate me.

Regardless, I am ready to beat the drum for this draft class, and I feel better about our general manager than I ever have.  If the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals does the right thing this could very well go down as the greatest week in offseason history.

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Possibly the funniest article yet. Bravo. I do have some unfortunate news regarding the Captain D's at 63rd and Troost. It appears vandals have thrown some kind of crude apparatus at the big blue sign rendering it unreadable. It could literally be years before it's fixed but I haven't noticed a decline in business.

Well as long as the business isn't suffering. Could we maybe get Mooore Remodeling down there for some repairs?

Looking forward to Big Matt's next column. Maybe we can discuss religion.

As for the great "weed debate". I joked during the draft chat about targeting pot heads because they usually drop and that pot doesn't usually have that many negative effects on someone's career. You end up getting a great value out of a player, ala BJ Raji for Green Bay last year (or the year before I can't remember). It was mostly a joke but some what serious. Every pot head is not created equal. The only logical point was brought up above by girchief. The smoking it isn't really the problem. Failing a big drug test that you knew you would have to take shows a lack of maturity and intelligence. That can definitely affect a player’s performance. I trust that Haley and Pioli did their homework. Yes, pot should be legal. It practically is out here in Oregon. Speeding tickets effect you more (3 and you lose your license) and are almost more costly than getting busted with pot.

Here's my theory on the second third round pick, I suppose Allen Bailey is the answer for the other side of nickel package when the other team throws in three wide outs. In that package we play 2 DE 2DL 2LB 2S and 3CB. It will be Bailey Dorsey Powe or TJ Gilberry on the line Houston or Student Baker along with Hali at LB and the rest should stay the same. Weed is bad for you if you smoke it. You have to eat it or mist it for it not to have any harmful side effects. (Just Sayin) I hope he's gobblin up the brownie's cause smokin may slow his 40 time a bit.

Nice article. I like the draft, but I'm not jumping up and down about it like you seem to be. It has great potential of landing us a lot of key pieces with no homerun threats. I'm more than ok with that. I would love to see an article by you (or someone who follows coach-speak/gm-speak as closely as you) analyzing the whole rebuild process from the end of the King Carl era through the Pioli era. I mentioned it in the chat, but I don't think Pioli is changing his philosophies. I think the high character guys, team captains, and Mike Brown/Vrabels all served their purpose. When a rookie head coach is hired to a team as bad as the Chiefs it can often spell trouble. It is hard to turn around a losing attitude and get people to buy in to what you are doing without seeing results (current or previous). Had we hired Bill Cower, I think he could handle a few bad apples by pointing to his Super Bowl ring. Not so easy for a rookie coach. I’m sure Pioli sold Mike Brown and Vrabel and Jon McGraw on Haley before they even signed. Then you get the young drafted players as team captains (guys who are vocal leaders and rarely rock the boat) and you have a solid core of guys that are “Haley cheerleaders”. The talent on the team that you can’t afford to lose, yet aren’t buying into another failed rebuilding effort are the last to come around. It makes more sense now that guys like Bowe and Derrick Johnson were in Haley’s doghouse. Their jobs had to be threatened in order for the team to rally around the coach and get on the same page. For winning teams, this all happens pretty easily. If a team is winning, the coach isn’t questioned and the team stays pretty tight. Therefore, this draft Pioli understood that Haley has his guys bought in. A guy like Baldwin won’t throw off that team balance. Anyway, I’m rambling so I will stop but that is my “theory” on why we have seen such a “change” in Pioli.

I found myself thinking something similar to this at the draft too. It seems they laid the foundation (shudder) of high character guys (double-shudder) so they could get the loyalty, discipline, Vrabels, etc firmly entrenched. Then once they've got their chosen mentality in place they can bring in potential bad seeds if they need to and not worry about the risk to team unity. If the rookie comes in as a cancer now he'll be seen as the outsider, rather than a virus infecting from the inside. This method will look brilliant if they're able to turn these guys alleged character troubles around. I should do a post about this maybe.

Laughing out loud, Matt. Laughing out loud. Great piece. Although your pot tangent was kinda harshin' my mellow (that means "I agree", right?).

Good article. Pro pot I liked and you exposed the double standard while alchohol is being shown in every commerical while smoking some plant out of the ground causes 'character' concerns. Total contridiction. Alchohol kills more people than any illegal drug. Read up ArrowheadAddicts: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101101/hl_yblog_upshot/study-alcohol-more-harmful-than-heroin-or-crack-cocaine http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/01/health/main7010145.shtml Finally about the draft; I am excited for this draft, they addressed all their needs and creating depth with competition.

I'm thrilled about this draft too. Your comments on Allen Bailey are right on. Jackson's days as the starter may be numbered or maybe Pioli was just trying to create some very real competition. And he did. Great article... and I love your references to things like Rumpelstiltskin. Delicious!

As long as major corporations (ie pharmaceutical companies, lumbar industry, etc.) are lobbying for marijuana and hemp to remain illegal, it should be a while before that changes. Hopefully once its completely legalized in California, there will be a trickle down effect to other states, which is what happened with medical marijuana.

Bigg Matt, I know but the way it came across come people might think there are states out there that have it legalized which is technically illegal for states to do according to the constitution. I still say eff it and legalize Mary Jane so that the various states and federal government can benefit from the taxation. Our deficit would almost disappear in about 10 years.

I don't know enough about the potential taxation #s to comment intelligently on its likely impact on the deficit. But by all accounts it would be positive. I totally agree with you here.

The only problem I have with Justin Houston's being caught with a gateway narcotic in his system is not that he smokes lefties, it's that he showed himself to be a total knucklehead for doing it when he was going to be tested for it! Other than that, I love that we got him in the 3rd round. My lingering concern about the fact that nobody touched Powe until almost the 7th round suggests to me he might in fact be a late 6th/early 7th round value. Still, it's pretty hard not to love all the picks for one reason or another.

Exactly! Growing up I knew a bunch of pot heads, and even the biggest dumbasses of them knew when to put it down. They would take a month off before going on a job interview, or 2 weeks off and do crazy crash diets mixed with drinking massive amounts of water. These guys were morons, the type of guys who would drink their own piss if you bought them a cheeseburger, yet none of them ever failed a drug test. It scares me a bit that he couldn't beat a simple planned test, but i love the talent and value in the pick. I just hope he doesn't screw the pooch, with drug suspensions.

Yeah I can totally understand you guys thinking that Houston failing the test reflects poorly on his intelligence. He should've been able to figure out how to pass a test. I just don't see it as a character issue. I mean, D-Bowe is dumb too but I don't think anyone would say he has character problems. I'm glad Pioli didn't let a little weed haze obscure such a valuable talent in this case. And just to be clear, its the talent I'm excited about, not the pot use.

Matt, As an Iowa fan, the thought of Stanzi standing on the sidelines at Arrowhead makes me want to wretch. I loathe his game. Your pal, Josh

I can't claim to be a Stanzi fan per se, but the fact that he isn't Brodie Croyle is pretty exciting to me. I really, really don't want to have to watch Croyle throw a pass ever again.

Amen to that! Let's ship Brodie to the Arena League, maybe we can trade him for a washing machine.

The problem for me is that he essentially is Croyle in all of the worst ways only with a crappier arm.

I completely agree this could easily be Piolis best if most of the guys work out. I felt like every pick made the team better and houston, powe, and stanzi all came at good value. Great article.

Please, no more pro-pothead stuff, I have to go with Crocker. The reality is positive drug tests and a big investment we made goes up in smoke (sorry for the double entendre). Please Justin, let's keep you in a Chief's uniform!

Let me just ask though, would you ever comment on a pro-alcohol post and say "Please, no more beer stuff?" I can understand your concerns of Houston missing time, but I really don't think Pioli and Haley will allow that to happen. They're not exactly known for their carefree attitudes or leniency, you know. I bet they keep these rookies on a pretty short leash.....once they're allowed to interact with them, that is.

If a player threatens his ability to play for any reason I'd jump on it. I don't care if alcohol, domestic abuse, whatever dumb thing people do. The NFL is for adults who can act like a professional, on the field and off. The law is the law, whether you agree with any particular law or not. Break it and suffer the consequence. Unfortunately, all the people who rely on you suffer for irresponsible behavior as well.

Fair enough. But to me alcoholism and domestic abuse seem like things that are evil in their own right, whereas marijuana is only evil because our government says so (at the moment). There is a big difference in my opinion. And the constitution has amendments for a reason.

Matt, obviously you have your pot thing and that trumps anything else for you. That has nothing to do with Chiefs football, and our draft risks panning out or not due to off the field behavior. It does not matter why something is illegal, or against an NFL rule, if it is, it is. A ruined career due to violating laws or NFL rules is ruined, regardless if they agrred with it or not. Our investment is lost, a once in a life time opportunity is blown. You can rationalize all you want, that is how it is. If you raised any children you know it's a fundamental issue you have to teach a child. They break a rule at school, at home or wherever. They pay the consequence and wail about the unfairness because they did like the rule. You hopefully are able to help them learn that the world does not care if they agree or not, they will suffer penalties if they violate it. It's part of maturing and growing up. Sadly, we have far too many football players who flunk the lesson, and wind up paying serious adult consequences because of it. You want to debate what the law should be. That is really irrelevant. We know what a player can and can't do to play in the league. If you want to pursue other issues for their own sake, like pro-pot or pro-abortion or pro-PETA or anything else, it's probably best to pursue that agenda on sites who have that within their scope. In that end this is my last post responding to legalization issues. I post here to focus on Chief's football, and what we can do to win games :)

To be fair, only 2 paragraphs out of 16 in this post had to do with Justin Houston at all. That was the part you targeted in your comment, so thats what I responded to. If you'd rather not continue of course thats fine, but remember, that is the part of my post you chose to discuss. To me it does matter why a rule is a rule. It matters big-time. But my intial point was that I thought it was smart of Pioli to jump on a huge talent that fell for such a harmless reason. It was a pro-Chiefs point. I sometimes get accused of not having enough of those.

Bigg Matt, You are wrong about marijuana being legal in ANY state. It is considered a class 1 narcotic and will take a federal mandate to legalize it before the states can even really try to legalize it. I wish they would legalize it and tax the hell out of growing and selling it. Maybe then the state of California could get out of its current budget wows. Especially since about half the state smokes it anyways.

It is legal in a few places for medical purposes isn't it?

I've heard it's awesome for treating stubbed toes and minor abrasions.

with THC recently patented...by the US GOVERNMENT....its a matter of time its a savior for cancer patients and those with neuropathic pain. Its one of the few non side effect drugs that makes you hungry AND takes away nausea

I was referring to medical marijuana. I thought that was obvious. The federal government's stance is that it would require a federal mandate, naturally. Many state governments don't see it that way at all. It's created a real grey area for growers and dispensary owners. Admittedly, there is still a ways to go. But its only a matter of time.

Well... I've got to say your draft analysis is the only one with a pro-legalization platform, but what else should I expect from you. :) Bailey will be a 3-4 end, where he fits prototypically. I'm not sure where you've researched that his work ethic is lacking -- Bailey is a Pioli pick. He's got outstanding character and his tape is phenomenal. I like him because he will immediately push BOTH Dorsey and Jackson, and because he's not a two-downer like both of them might be. I had said several weeks ago that drafting a stud DE at #21 wouldn't be a bad idea if we think our current DEs are Super Bowl capable. Draft a stud, let all three of them fight for playing time, and dangle whoever loses out for trade offers. Looks like they did that, actually. In the third round. Wow. What a draft.

"Bailey is a Pioli pick" If this draft has taught us anything its that whatever we thought we knew about what makes a "Pioli pick" is not accurate. Also, I really don't see us getting much in the way of trade offers for whoever loses the playing time battle between Tin Man and Allen Bailey. And I seriously doubt Bailey was brought in to push Dorsey, especially not immediately. If this pick is aimed at anyone, its Jackson. "He’s got outstanding character and his tape is phenomenal." Do you know this guy or something? Just kidding, I like the pick too. And also just an FYI, I changed "vague concerns about work ethic" to "vague concerns about consistency" at some point after the initial publish. That first comment was a misprint, I definitely haven't heard anything bad about his character. I have seen him lumped in with Houston and Baldwin in the "boom or bust" category, but for the record I'm not really buying into that.

I still think "Pioli pick" has become a malleable term. Sometimes it describes players with high floors, other times it describes high character, other times both. So perhaps using that terminology doesn't do us any favors. As a side note, he has 8% body fat. On a 285 pound guy. Dude is outstanding.

Possibly the funniest article yet. Bravo. I do have some unfortunate news regarding the Captain D's at 63rd and Troost. It appears vandals have thrown some kind of crude apparatus at the big blue sign rendering it unreadable. It could literally be years before it's fixed but I haven't noticed a decline in business.

Well as long as the business isn't suffering.

Could we maybe get Mooore Remodeling down there for some repairs?

Looking forward to Big Matt's next column.

Maybe we can discuss religion.

As for the great "weed debate". I joked during the draft chat about targeting pot heads because they usually drop and that pot doesn't usually have that many negative effects on someone's career. You end up getting a great value out of a player, ala BJ Raji for Green Bay last year (or the year before I can't remember). It was mostly a joke but some what serious. Every pot head is not created equal.

The only logical point was brought up above by girchief. The smoking it isn't really the problem. Failing a big drug test that you knew you would have to take shows a lack of maturity and intelligence. That can definitely affect a player’s performance. I trust that Haley and Pioli did their homework.

Yes, pot should be legal. It practically is out here in Oregon. Speeding tickets effect you more (3 and you lose your license) and are almost more costly than getting busted with pot.

Here's my theory on the second third round pick, I suppose
Allen Bailey is the answer for the other side of nickel package when the other team throws in three wide outs. In that package we play 2 DE 2DL 2LB 2S and 3CB. It will be
Bailey Dorsey Powe or TJ Gilberry on the line
Houston or Student Baker along with Hali at LB
and the rest should stay the same.

Weed is bad for you if you smoke it. You have to eat it or mist it for it not to have any harmful side effects. (Just Sayin) I hope he's gobblin up the brownie's cause smokin may slow his 40 time a bit.

Nice article. I like the draft, but I'm not jumping up and down about it like you seem to be. It has great potential of landing us a lot of key pieces with no homerun threats. I'm more than ok with that.

I would love to see an article by you (or someone who follows coach-speak/gm-speak as closely as you) analyzing the whole rebuild process from the end of the King Carl era through the Pioli era. I mentioned it in the chat, but I don't think Pioli is changing his philosophies. I think the high character guys, team captains, and Mike Brown/Vrabels all served their purpose. When a rookie head coach is hired to a team as bad as the Chiefs it can often spell trouble. It is hard to turn around a losing attitude and get people to buy in to what you are doing without seeing results (current or previous). Had we hired Bill Cower, I think he could handle a few bad apples by pointing to his Super Bowl ring. Not so easy for a rookie coach. I’m sure Pioli sold Mike Brown and Vrabel and Jon McGraw on Haley before they even signed. Then you get the young drafted players as team captains (guys who are vocal leaders and rarely rock the boat) and you have a solid core of guys that are “Haley cheerleaders”.

The talent on the team that you can’t afford to lose, yet aren’t buying into another failed rebuilding effort are the last to come around. It makes more sense now that guys like Bowe and Derrick Johnson were in Haley’s doghouse. Their jobs had to be threatened in order for the team to rally around the coach and get on the same page.

For winning teams, this all happens pretty easily. If a team is winning, the coach isn’t questioned and the team stays pretty tight. Therefore, this draft Pioli understood that Haley has his guys bought in. A guy like Baldwin won’t throw off that team balance.

Anyway, I’m rambling so I will stop but that is my “theory” on why we have seen such a “change” in Pioli.

I found myself thinking something similar to this at the draft too. It seems they laid the foundation (shudder) of high character guys (double-shudder) so they could get the loyalty, discipline, Vrabels, etc firmly entrenched. Then once they've got their chosen mentality in place they can bring in potential bad seeds if they need to and not worry about the risk to team unity. If the rookie comes in as a cancer now he'll be seen as the outsider, rather than a virus infecting from the inside. This method will look brilliant if they're able to turn these guys alleged character troubles around.

I should do a post about this maybe.

Laughing out loud, Matt. Laughing out loud. Great piece. Although your pot tangent was kinda harshin' my mellow (that means "I agree", right?).

Good article. Pro pot I liked and you exposed the double standard while alchohol is being shown in every commerical while smoking some plant out of the ground causes 'character' concerns. Total contridiction. Alchohol kills more people than any illegal drug. Read up ArrowheadAddicts: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101101/hl_yblog_upshot/study-alcohol-more-harmful-than-heroin-or-crack-cocaine

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/01/health/main7010145.shtml

Finally about the draft; I am excited for this draft, they addressed all their needs and creating depth with competition.

I'm thrilled about this draft too. Your comments on Allen Bailey are right on. Jackson's days as the starter may be numbered or maybe Pioli was just trying to create some very real competition. And he did. Great article... and I love your references to things like Rumpelstiltskin. Delicious!

As long as major corporations (ie pharmaceutical companies, lumbar industry, etc.) are lobbying for marijuana and hemp to remain illegal, it should be a while before that changes. Hopefully once its completely legalized in California, there will be a trickle down effect to other states, which is what happened with medical marijuana.

Bigg Matt,

I know but the way it came across come people might think there are states out there that have it legalized which is technically illegal for states to do according to the constitution. I still say eff it and legalize Mary Jane so that the various states and federal government can benefit from the taxation. Our deficit would almost disappear in about 10 years.