We Do Not Know This Man

by Chiefs

(source: kcchiefsblog.com)

We knew Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was capable of throwing us a curveball, but I don’t think any of us (with the exception of commenter Danny W-respect) saw this one coming.  One thing we thought we knew for sure was that Pioli places the utmost value on intangibles.  Then he goes and picks a guy whose value is all in the tangible (ie, real) world.  Jonathan Baldwin’s measurables to character ratio is probably the most lopsided of anyone in this draft class.  This was a guy I was absolutely sure Pioli wouldn’t touch. 

But touch him he did.  He touched him long, and he touched him hard.  OK this got perverted real fast.  Much like the headshot on my press pass.

I scare your children after the jump:

I was disappointed in this pick at first because it blindsided me, but I like it more and more as the day goes by.  I’m not going to call it a homerun or an A+ like some, because this is far from a sure thing.  But no one can deny this pick is muy exciting.  Uncertainty can be a thrill!  And this kid’s ceiling is definitely very high.  Of course, his floor is very low, too.  This is a straight-up feast or famine pick.  Either way, fantastic for a fake journalist such as myself.  I will write thousands of words about Baldwin in the coming years no matter what he does.

One thing is for sure: we can throw what we thought we knew about Scott Pioli out the window.  We know nothing.  The phrase “right 53″ is now even more meaningless than it was before, which I wouldn’t have thought possible.  And in pulling off a trade back, our GM gave us the gift of more fun today.  Rounds two and three are going to be an absolute blast.

Pioli responsible for fun?!  What’s next, expensive free agents and real answers at press conferences?  I’m not ruling anything out at this point.

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Before giving out grades for this we have to see what the early 3rd round pick is. The verdict is not in on this pick yet.

I simply have no idea how anybody could do anything BUT LOVE THIS PICK. Give Baldwin HALFWAY COMPETENT quarterbacking for the last two years, and he's a Top 15 pick. The talent there is disgusting. The character issues are intriguing, but the Chiefs say they have done their due dilligence on him. Let's give him a couple seasons and see exactly how good our DD was. Did I mention we ALSO NETTED A HIGH 3RD? God, what a smash. We clearly never wanted Carimi, but we had the entire league so freaking fooled the Bears tried to trade up for him.

I thought the Bears were trying to trade up ahead of us so they could draft Baldwin. I saw a lot of mocks and reports that had him going to Chicago.

What I also like about Baldwin is that Cassel has accuracy problems on the deep ball. His size will really help on those plays as opposed to a Titus Young type.

Well some of the comments underscore why the NFL draft is akin to a modern day meat market for would be gladiators. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing! On an entirely different note I am absolutely delighted with this pick. Regardless how one feels about Pioli, he proved today he is willing to make bold decisions. We need to toss the notion that he will always take the " safe pick". Forget all the conjecture about what the "right 53 " actually means inside of Arrowhead. We are not working hard enough on reading the Tea Leaves!

Big Matt, you look like you should've been in the original "The Hiils Have Eyes" in that picture. Love the humility you showed by putting that up BTW. I admit I know probably less about our new receiver than was shown last night on draft coverage, but I am stoked that we finally put some chips in the center of the table to gamble on a WR. I think with the draft last year and the core group of leaders the chiefs have they can start being a little less strict on character pre-requisites when getting new talent. If they have that many people on the team that were team captains then they should have a group capable of handling a player with a little attitude. Plus your best people are most often the ones that are hardest to manage. Now we just have to beef up the lines and get some people that will give Matty Nice time to throw the ball...

6 foot 4 1/2 Exceptional leaping ability Recently timed on campus at 4.37 Mike Mayock had him at Number 29 to the Bears Will he stretch defenses? Will he help in the Red Zone? Will he be a great target on third and eight? Will teams be less likely to double Bowe? Will he help make the offense more balanced between running and passing? Will he make it more difficult to game plan the Chiefs? I believe that the answer to these questions is "Yes" but we will see.

Thanks for the name drop Big Matt and for the warning I've kept my kid away from the computer this whole time and for good reason. On Baldwin barring any freak injuries the dude is going to be the next Plaxico Burress hopefully with out gunning down his leg on accident with all the big plays in the redzone. He is everything Dexter McCluster isn't on the football field and I love that. ala (Titus Young) Never dreamed we would trade down but I am satisfied we did forsure. Tonite is going to be crazy.

I got a belief that this pick was Haley's. At least we can credit Pioli with the trade down and not killing the pick. And for we, fans, let go of the "right 53" bs we have heard ad nauseum. No team ever had the right 53, they are always looking for improvement. With this pick, good or bad, we get a better feel about the current Chief's organ. To me this is the real first step of becoming a dominate force. Not the kid, he is ok, no the attitude of the organ. The will pay huge dividends as the Chiefs develope.

1946, Is there another way of you saying what you mean other than using the words "feel" and "organ" in the same sentence? Somehow that sounds a little awkward at the moment. I think it might have something to do with that Big Matt photo that I was forced to see a little earlier.

Why do you have a problem with "feel," "organ," and "Big Matt," all apearing in the same paragraph?

What if Big Matt owned a 1745 pipe organ in his house that feels amazing to play? Would you be interested then?

I'll say "roses on the Baldwin piano" if that's where you're heading with this.

I believe I now know exactly what "right 53" means. The core concept of that every player you bring to the team is brought in for the sole purpose of ultimately winning a Superbowl. If/when you do win a Superbowl, you are deemed the ultimate puppetmaster of personnel because all you have to do is point to your team and say "Look there. Right 53!" You see, we all been led to believe that "right 53" is some kind of prospective/proactive vision when in fact it's really designed to be retrospective/reactive reflection. Riddle solved.

Double D, I just really wanted to say this to you. You were absolutely right that Phil Taylor's foot problems were overblown. He did not drop through the draft like many were suspecting. He did indeed go at #21, just like you predicted.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again. First round value assessment vindicated. I believe I read somewhere that the Browns had Taylor in for 3 private workouts so the fact that they took him comes as no shock. I believe they gave up too much to do it but it's very obvious that he was the one guy they wanted more than anybody else coming out of the first round and they worked very hard to make that happen. I regret that the Chiefs were not the team to take him and I believe the Browns efforts towards that end will be rewarded.

I don't know if they traded too much. Gained: Phil Taylor 1st round pick (21) 2nd round pick (59th overall) 4th round pick (124th overall) Lost: 1st round pick (6) 3rd round pick (70th overall) When you factor in what they got from Atlanta, I think they came out ahead in the trade as well. As long as they do a good job of hitting their 2nd round picks, this already becomes a successful drafts for one of the lesser teams in the NFL. As you said, they got THE guy the wanted. And that counts for something, too. Also, you're welcome.

Crap. I forgot to include the 2012 picks. Gained: 1st round pick in 2012 4th round pick in 2012 So as long as there is a draft in 2012, then they came out way ahead.

I guess I wasn't aware of the Browns final haul in all of this. You're right, they did pretty well all considered.

When you break it down, they gained 4 draft picks (Rounds 1, 2, 4 & 4), gave up 1 draft pick (Round 3), and grabbed the best player at his position and the 1 single player they wanted more than anybody. That's an A+ first round in my opinion.

I'll see your "retrospective" theory and raise you a "justification for anything they do" add-on. Basically, the right 53 is whoever Pioli says it is. This pick confirms that, but really we already knew it to be true. Those of us who care about such things, anyway.

Matt, It is not only the children you have scared. I'm afraid I may not be able to take my afternoon nap at work today.

OMG that pic! Stranger danger.

Matt, I have seen far worse mug shots of you. You have turned into "the man" with your businessman look.

The thing that makes this one creepier than other Big Matt pics is this is essentially what I really look like. Also, I think if I'd sent in a headdress pic or something else ridiculous they might've reconsidered that press pass.

I would like to first explain that I didn't know hardly anything about this guy before we drafted him. I did a bunch of reading up on him since and I too am loving it more and more. My reasoning for liking the pick is that FINALLY the Chiefs show they understand the problem at WR can't be fixed by washed up free agent veterans. If he busts, he busts. I just like the fact that they absolutely drafted a big area of need that has been ignored for far too long. I also love the trading back. As the draft went along, no names were jumping out that I wanted. There was a handful of talent that I would have been happy with. That is the perfect opportunity to trade back. Well done, Pioli and Co, and I am also looking forward to today's picks.

It is nice to see Pioli use a pick to address an area we can all agree was a problem. So often in the past this regime hasn't done that. I was frightened to think who was going to be lining up opposite Bowe this year. Terry Copper and Quinten Lawrence were haunting my dreams. the trade back was great. I was very psyched about that. Rumor is we were trying to trade back a second time, which would've been awesome. But I'm not gonna get greedy. One extra 3rd is fine and dandy.

When Prince Amukamara started dropping, I was having nightmares that Pioli was going to go with BPA and draft him. Normally I'm ok with a BPA mentality, but not when it is at a position where we are stacked with young talent. What a relief. I'd still like to see 3 of the ILB, OLB, OT, and C addressed today.

I'd suggest that NT is a more pressing need than OT. But I agree that I want 3 of those 4 positions addressed tonight. I feel like tonight is the night we go for some big guys if their available.

How did I forget NT. Take the BPA out of those 5 areas of need.

Five words on why we shouldn't have been so completely shocked by Pioli putting his faith in a freakishly talented 6'4" WR with questionable character: New England Patriot Randy Moss. Still a huge surprise last night based on all the pre-draft speculation, but the track record is there.

Its hard for me to put too much stock in NE moves since Belichick was obviously the driving force there. Still, if NE did it, there is a good chance Pioli will imitate it, so your point holds true.

Before giving out grades for this we have to see what the early 3rd round pick is. The verdict is not in on this pick yet.

I simply have no idea how anybody could do anything BUT LOVE THIS PICK.

Give Baldwin HALFWAY COMPETENT quarterbacking for the last two years, and he's a Top 15 pick. The talent there is disgusting.

The character issues are intriguing, but the Chiefs say they have done their due dilligence on him. Let's give him a couple seasons and see exactly how good our DD was.

Did I mention we ALSO NETTED A HIGH 3RD?

God, what a smash. We clearly never wanted Carimi, but we had the entire league so freaking fooled the Bears tried to trade up for him.

I thought the Bears were trying to trade up ahead of us so they could draft Baldwin. I saw a lot of mocks and reports that had him going to Chicago.

What I also like about Baldwin is that Cassel has accuracy problems on the deep ball. His size will really help on those plays as opposed to a Titus Young type.

Well some of the comments underscore why the NFL draft is akin to a modern day meat market for would be gladiators. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing!

On an entirely different note I am absolutely delighted with this pick. Regardless how one feels about Pioli, he proved today he is willing to make bold decisions. We need to toss the notion that he will always take the " safe pick". Forget all the conjecture about what the "right 53 " actually means inside of Arrowhead. We are not working hard enough on reading the Tea Leaves!

Big Matt, you look like you should've been in the original "The Hiils Have Eyes" in that picture. Love the humility you showed by putting that up BTW.

I admit I know probably less about our new receiver than was shown last night on draft coverage, but I am stoked that we finally put some chips in the center of the table to gamble on a WR.

I think with the draft last year and the core group of leaders the chiefs have they can start being a little less strict on character pre-requisites when getting new talent. If they have that many people on the team that were team captains then they should have a group capable of handling a player with a little attitude. Plus your best people are most often the ones that are hardest to manage.

Now we just have to beef up the lines and get some people that will give Matty Nice time to throw the ball...

6 foot 4 1/2
Exceptional leaping ability
Recently timed on campus at 4.37
Mike Mayock had him at Number 29 to the Bears
Will he stretch defenses? Will he help in the Red Zone? Will he be a great target on third and eight? Will teams be less likely to double Bowe? Will he help make the offense more balanced between running and passing? Will he make it more difficult to game plan the Chiefs?
I believe that the answer to these questions is "Yes" but we will see.

Thanks for the name drop Big Matt and for the warning I've kept my kid away from the computer this whole time and for good reason.

On Baldwin barring any freak injuries the dude is going to be the next Plaxico Burress hopefully with out gunning down his leg on accident with all the big plays in the redzone. He is everything Dexter McCluster isn't on the football field and I love that. ala (Titus Young) Never dreamed we would trade down but I am satisfied we did forsure. Tonite is going to be crazy.

I got a belief that this pick was Haley's. At least we can credit Pioli with the trade down and not killing the pick. And for we, fans, let go of the "right 53" bs we have heard ad nauseum. No team ever had the right 53, they are always looking for improvement.

With this pick, good or bad, we get a better feel about the current Chief's organ. To me this is the real first step of becoming a dominate force. Not the kid, he is ok, no the attitude of the organ. The will pay huge dividends as the Chiefs develope.

1946,

Is there another way of you saying what you mean other than using the words "feel" and "organ" in the same sentence? Somehow that sounds a little awkward at the moment. I think it might have something to do with that Big Matt photo that I was forced to see a little earlier.

Why do you have a problem with "feel," "organ," and "Big Matt," all apearing in the same paragraph?

What if Big Matt owned a 1745 pipe organ in his house that feels amazing to play? Would you be interested then?

I'll say "roses on the Baldwin piano" if that's where you're heading with this.

I believe I now know exactly what "right 53" means. The core concept of that every player you bring to the team is brought in for the sole purpose of ultimately winning a Superbowl. If/when you do win a Superbowl, you are deemed the ultimate puppetmaster of personnel because all you have to do is point to your team and say "Look there. Right 53!"

You see, we all been led to believe that "right 53" is some kind of prospective/proactive vision when in fact it's really designed to be retrospective/reactive reflection. Riddle solved.

Double D,

I just really wanted to say this to you. You were absolutely right that Phil Taylor's foot problems were overblown. He did not drop through the draft like many were suspecting. He did indeed go at #21, just like you predicted.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again. First round value assessment vindicated.

I believe I read somewhere that the Browns had Taylor in for 3 private workouts so the fact that they took him comes as no shock. I believe they gave up too much to do it but it's very obvious that he was the one guy they wanted more than anybody else coming out of the first round and they worked very hard to make that happen. I regret that the Chiefs were not the team to take him and I believe the Browns efforts towards that end will be rewarded.