The 21st Pick Through “Scott Pioli Colored Glasses”

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Well Chiefs fans we are now officially 9 days away from the NFL draft. We all have our own thoughts on who the Chiefs should draft. You may have your heart set on a certain player or position, but what really matters is what Scott Pioli wants. That’s what I decided to do this week, really look at which of the prospects that are being discussed as possibilities for Kansas City at pick #21 are most likely to be picked by Pioli.

So let me be very clear, I am NOT saying that this is who I think Kansas City should draft. This is who I think Pioli will pick based off what we know about Pioli and his approach to the draft and prospects.

So what does Pioli like in a draft pick? Here’s the list I came up with.

-Lots of experience. The more playing time, the more tape for scouts to pour over.

-Hard worker. A strong work ethic is a must.

-Leader. We all know about the whole “team captain” criteria from last year’s draft.

-Played against elite competition. Pioli has drafted a ton of players from the SEC.

-Loves football. Pioli is on the record as saying he wants guys who love to play the game.

-Passes the janitor test. Pioli tries to find high character players by digging into how the player treats people when no one is looking.

-Good value at the spot he’s drafted. Some would argue against this given the Tyson Jackson pick, but Pioli often claims they are looking for the best player available.

So based off these criteria, Scott Pioli will take…….

Derek Sherrod – OT – Mississippi State

When you factor all of these criteria in, all signs end up pointing to Sherrod.

Lots of experience? Sherrod has 50 college games under his belt, three as the full time starter at LT.

Hard worker? Reputation is that he works hard in practice and has really worked to develop good technique and footwork. He’s also very durable and missed very little time due to injury in his college career.

Leader? Yes, he was a team captain. Here’s a quote from www.draftcountdown.com ‘s interview with Sherrod about being a team leader:

“I’m a leader in how I play, practice, and work out. I pretty much lead by example. I make sure that all of my teammates try to play to their potential and work as hard as they can. You have to go in every single day and do the best you can and try to get better each and every day. I try to make sure my teammates and I get to that peak.”

I’m sure any doubts that head coach Todd Haley had in Sherrod went out the window as soon as he heard that “get better every day” quote.

Played against elite competition? Sherrod was a three year started in Pioli’s favorite conference, the SEC.

Loves football? One of the knocks on Sherrod is that he might not have the “killer instinct” some are looking for, basically that maybe he is too nice. Don’t mistake that for not loving football. As I already stated, Sherrod is known as a great leader and hard worker. Here is another quote from the draftcountdown.com interview about what he likes best about football.

“My favorite part is just being out there with my teammates, going out there having fun and working hard to get a victory each and every week. You go through a lot with your teammates and spend a lot of time with them and that’s what I enjoy.”

Passes the janitor test? Check out this quote from www.nfldraftscout.com ‘s profile on Sherrod under the area “Intangibles”.

“Was one of 16 players to win the storied National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame (NFF) Award, which includes a post-graduate $18,000 scholarship. Earned his degree in business with a 3.54 GPA. Is the third Bulldog to win the award and the first since 1989. Team leader voted a captain in 2010. A four-year member of the M-Club, MSU’s student-athlete community service organization, he has spent considerable time with the youth of Mississippi. He has served breakfast at Sudduth Elementary School, participated in Sudduth’s Kids Fair and read to local students to promote literacy. He has also organized a Thanksgiving food drive.”

Now compare that to say NT Phil Taylor’s “Intangibles” from the same sight.

“Sprained his knee in 2007 preseason at Penn State, losing starting job to future first-round pick Jared Odrick. Charged with felony aggravated assault during a fraternity function at a Penn State student union in October 2007; the charge was eventually dropped. Really turned up his game the second half of 2010; scouts could see that as maturity or wonder if he can maintain that level of play.”

It’s not hard to guess which one of those guys will be a good fit for Pioli’s “Right 53″ mantra.

Good value for that draft slot? Well our own Merlin’s Draft Tek big board currently has Sherrod ranked as the #21 overall prospect. Larry McDaniel of Fansided’s With The First Pick has mocked Sherrod to the Chiefs in his first mock update to come out after the news of Phil Taylor’s possible medical red flag broke. Draftcountdown .com summed Sherrod up as “not particularly flashy but very consistent and arguably the best all around blocker in this class.” So it sounds like the value is there.

Now, am I on the record as saying that WR is our biggest need? Yes

Have I said I was in favor of drafting Phil Taylor? Yes (at least before the injury rumors)

Am I wild about drafting an OT with our first round pick? Meh, I guess I’m okay with it.

After looking at things through “Pioli-colored glasses” would I call Derek Sherrod the most likely pick for the Chiefs if they stay at #21? Yes

So what do you think KC fans? Do you agree that Sherrod is a likely Pioli pick? Would you be okay with this pick?

I’d love to hear your thoughts.

As always, thanks for reading and GO CHIEFS!!!!!

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I think the chiefs will take Kerrigan or Reed at OLB with there first pick.

Has Pioli often drafted an offensive lineman in the first round? I can't recall any. It seems like he's willing to wait until later rounds to fill o-line needs.

Outstanding article, one of the best I read this off season, and the first chiefs reader to get in Pioli's head, this will make life easier for all now that we have a person how can think as a Pioli, hehe... Now on to the pick, ok let do this... I will also take Carimi do to the fact he played in a system like ours, a run heavy offenses, that runs down hill, a the kid plays hard and mean. I like the Sherrod, and it really looks like a Pioli pick, but we have a "nice guy" all ready on the right side, we don't need two. Also I don't think we are going to pick an OT at #21, Piloi likes to develop talent, and also needs to sell his great program off, so B Rich can be one of the billboard plays of his program, if you get what I mean... Love to have ether OT both there are good OT in later rounds, and we have other needs, we have great passing attacks and defenses in the new Schedule, we need more weapons on both side of the ball. Personally I would trade down and get as many good plays as we did last year, stock picks and players, and let Pioli work he magic as he did last year... Go Chiefs...Yeah Buddy...!!!

I don't think you can base a tackle's performance on the team's record. There are 10 other guys on the offense that could suck or the defense could suck. The fact that both Sherrod and Carimi played left tackle should make it easier to determine who's the better player and better fit for the Chiefs. I personally think that a good tackle is a high priority need, I would be happy with either. In regards to Taylor, which I was on the bandwagon up until about 2 days before the foot thing, I am concerned about the character issues. Not that he punched some mouthy frat boy but that he seemed to start working in the second half of the season, lost weight for the combine and is only now doing all the right things. I'm concerned that he is doing this for his big payday and then could disappear. I thinks that's why Pioli wants people who love the game.

I think it should and will be Carimi over Sherrod.

If the SEC is Pioli's favorite conference, recent draft history suggests that would be for defensive players primarily. Mississippi State's offense, an offense that Sherrod anchored at LT, did not really shine against the rest of the SEC. 4-4 in 2010 without any real quality wins. Wisconsin's offense, on the other hand, went 7-1 against the Big 10 last season, defeating Ohio State in the process. A quick check of Football Outsiders stats reveals that Wisconsin's offense is significantly better than that of Mississippi State's. You wanna talk system? Wisconsin's pro-style offense has that covered in spades. By contrast, Miss St operates primarily out of the spread. I'm not suggesting that Carimi is heads and shoulders better than Sherrod, I'm just saying that if one applies the same Pioli criteria equally to both players, that Carimi ought to prevail over Sherrod on multiple accounts.

I would argue that Mississippi State's offensive production not matching up to Wisconsins has more to do with the other 10 players on their offenses then it does with who the LT is.

Lyle: Excellent article. You presented a very good case for Sherrod. Obviously, you know I agree. I have been beating the Sherrod drum for months here. I would add one thing to your criteria. It's an assumption of sorts, but it bears stating. Pioli is a huge system guy. He drafts people whose athletic skills match the demands of the position in his system. Sherrod matches up very well on that score.

Here's the question I have about the story that's afoot about Phil Taylor. If this condition was made known at the combine (way back in early March), then why are we just now hearing about how all these teams are supposedly taking him off their boards? If this condition was known way back at the combine, then why have so many teams been so highly interested in him after learning that information? Why have several teams (including the Chiefs) gone to the trouble of working him out privately since the combine? Nearly all players at this stage have chronic conditions that require them to "play through the pain" so to speak. Has Sanchez' knee kept him from performing at a high level? Sorry this rumor simply does not add up for me - I say it's agenda-driven. Regarding Phil Taylor's supposed character issues - apparently there is this belief out there that suggests Pioli may not believe in second chances and that getting into a fight (with some likely mouthy frat boys who probably don't know sh*t about life) when you're a sophomore in college might be considered by Pioli to be a permanent strike against the guy. If that's true, which I don't believe it is, then I say that's an utterly ridiculous view to hold. I know I'm a lot like the majority of the human race and if I had to be held accountable for the rest of my life for every stupid thing I did as a kid I know for a fact I would have never gotten anywhere in life. As far as OT is concerned, I would take Gabe "The Hammer" Carimi over Derek Sherrod. Carimi, team captain, 2010 Outland Trophy winner, started all 4 years at LT for Wisc in every game he played, 49 in all, the 3 he did not start were games he missed due to injury in '08. Level of competion? Well, let's just say the Badgers went a mere 7-1 in the Big Ten in 2010 including an impressive upset over the Buckeyes. Miss St? A paltry 4-4 against the vaunted SEC last season. The difference? Carimi at LT = winning. Sherrod at LT = not so much. Carimi = nasty disposition. Sherrod = nice guy.

I'd be ecstatic with either Carimi or Sherrod. I slightly favor Carimi just for his mauler attitude. But if he's off the board, then Sherrod is a pretty damn good consolation pick.

I still say we should take Taylor unless this foot thing somehow turns out to be an absolute show-stopper. I doubt that's the case though. I mean even if there's a chance we only get 4 or 5 really good years out of Taylor because of this foot thing, it would still be worth taking him with the #21 pick by my reckoning. It's not like he's a top 5 pick that's going to tie up a ton of cap money for years and years to come.

First, I agree that they Taylor foot thing seems fishy. I will be thrilled if we take him because to me that will mean that both his feet and his "attitude" checked out with Pioli and that's good enough for me. I won't be upset if we pass though. If Pioli thinks the feet or his past are too big of question mark then take one of the several other options that bring good value at that spot. Second, I too like Carimi over Sherrod and I agree that Carimi holds up pretty well to the "Pioli Test". However, Carimi is seen more as a "power" blocker then a technician and I think the Chiefs zone blocking scheme would come more naturally to Sherrod. Either way one of them would have some work to do. Carimi would have to work on his technique and mobility and Sherrod would have to hit the weight room.

Sherrod would be an excellent pick, as would Carimi, or Taylor.

As long as the Chiefs stay at #21, I don't think they can miss on their pick. Whether it is Carimi, Taylor, Sherrod, Pouncey, Smith, Kerrigan, or any 5 or 6 other players, they are going to land a starter in the 1st round.

Very well thought out and written article. I absolutely could see Pioli drafting him here but, I hope he doesnt. I think Orlando Franklin in the 3rd is better value then Sherrod in the 1st. Ive said before on this site I think the best thing for the Chiefs to do is trade down and get more picks and there will be players early in the 2nd or late first that could be starters for them right away. If the Chiefs stay at 21 there is so many directions they could go I'm not sure I would be surprised with anyone they took.

I agree that Sherrod is very much a Pioli pick. He's not going to get much love from Chiefs fans because he is not a "sexy" pick. He's nothing like Berry last year. He's nothing like Taylor/Ayers/Kerrin/Smith would be this year. He's a day one starter who will come in and improve our offensive line. He's not going to put up stats, make huge plays, or get his name called. But he's going to show up, do everything he is asked to do, and make the offense even better than it was last year.

I'm not sold on Ayers at #21 either. It sounds like he's got "motor issues" and some think he's actually better suited for the ILB spot in a 3-4. The only think I really like about him is that he'd be a huge upgrade in pass coverage for us. I think Smith is too much of a reach at #21. I agree that Sherrod is a solid, safe pick.

Aldon Smith is a reach at #21?

I don't want Ayers to be the pick at #21 either. But he fit my mold of sexy picks who will make plays and grab big stats.

Sorry, for some reason I thought of Torrey Smith the WR.

I've struggled about OT for the Chiefs since the overwhelming prediction of most mocks last year was Russell Okung (or Bulaga) for the Chiefs at #5. I was euphoric when Scott picked Eric Berry who was my dream pick. This year, I've been on the Phil Taylor train because of the importance of completing our defensive front so they can mature and "jell" together (Pioli picked Seymour, Warren and Wilfork with 1st round picks in the early 2000's). With Taylor's reported condition, I'm now confused about what we will do, but in spite of all the excellent reasons described in the article above, wouldn't it be better at #21 to pick a right tackle or a left tackle rather than a "swing" tackle who might not be an NFL starter at either? Couldn't we get a "versatile" tackle to backup our starters in a later round?

If Taylor checks out physically and Pioli is confident that he really has turned things around after getting booted from PSU, then I think Taylor should be the pick. Of the OT, I like Carimi. I think he'd be a great RT for the next decade. I just think Sherrod screams "Pioli Guy" and am preparing myself to hear his name called next Thursday. I think Sherrod would be a very good RT in a zone blocking scheme with the chance to move over to LT if we needed.

I think the chiefs will take Kerrigan or Reed at OLB with there first pick.

Has Pioli often drafted an offensive lineman in the first round? I can't recall any. It seems like he's willing to wait until later rounds to fill o-line needs.

Outstanding article, one of the best I read this off season, and the first chiefs reader to get in Pioli's head, this will make life easier for all now that we have a person how can think as a Pioli, hehe...

Now on to the pick, ok let do this...

I will also take Carimi do to the fact he played in a system like ours, a run heavy offenses, that runs down hill, a the kid plays hard and mean.

I like the Sherrod, and it really looks like a Pioli pick, but we have a "nice guy" all ready on the right side, we don't need two. Also I don't think we are going to pick an OT at #21, Piloi likes to develop talent, and also needs to sell his great program off, so B Rich can be one of the billboard plays of his program, if you get what I mean...

Love to have ether OT both there are good OT in later rounds, and we have other needs, we have great passing attacks and defenses in the new Schedule, we need more weapons on both side of the ball.

Personally I would trade down and get as many good plays as we did last year, stock picks and players, and let Pioli work he magic as he did last year...

Go Chiefs...Yeah Buddy...!!!

I don't think you can base a tackle's performance on the team's record. There are 10 other guys on the offense that could suck or the defense could suck. The fact that both Sherrod and Carimi played left tackle should make it easier to determine who's the better player and better fit for the Chiefs. I personally think that a good tackle is a high priority need, I would be happy with either.

In regards to Taylor, which I was on the bandwagon up until about 2 days before the foot thing, I am concerned about the character issues. Not that he punched some mouthy frat boy but that he seemed to start working in the second half of the season, lost weight for the combine and is only now doing all the right things. I'm concerned that he is doing this for his big payday and then could disappear. I thinks that's why Pioli wants people who love the game.

I think it should and will be Carimi over Sherrod.

If the SEC is Pioli's favorite conference, recent draft history suggests that would be for defensive players primarily. Mississippi State's offense, an offense that Sherrod anchored at LT, did not really shine against the rest of the SEC. 4-4 in 2010 without any real quality wins. Wisconsin's offense, on the other hand, went 7-1 against the Big 10 last season, defeating Ohio State in the process. A quick check of Football Outsiders stats reveals that Wisconsin's offense is significantly better than that of Mississippi State's. You wanna talk system? Wisconsin's pro-style offense has that covered in spades. By contrast, Miss St operates primarily out of the spread.
I'm not suggesting that Carimi is heads and shoulders better than Sherrod, I'm just saying that if one applies the same Pioli criteria equally to both players, that Carimi ought to prevail over Sherrod on multiple accounts.

I would argue that Mississippi State's offensive production not matching up to Wisconsins has more to do with the other 10 players on their offenses then it does with who the LT is.

Lyle:

Excellent article. You presented a very good case for Sherrod. Obviously, you know I agree. I have been beating the Sherrod drum for months here.

I would add one thing to your criteria. It's an assumption of sorts, but it bears stating. Pioli is a huge system guy. He drafts people whose athletic skills match the demands of the position in his system. Sherrod matches up very well on that score.

Here's the question I have about the story that's afoot about Phil Taylor. If this condition was made known at the combine (way back in early March), then why are we just now hearing about how all these teams are supposedly taking him off their boards? If this condition was known way back at the combine, then why have so many teams been so highly interested in him after learning that information? Why have several teams (including the Chiefs) gone to the trouble of working him out privately since the combine? Nearly all players at this stage have chronic conditions that require them to "play through the pain" so to speak. Has Sanchez' knee kept him from performing at a high level? Sorry this rumor simply does not add up for me - I say it's agenda-driven.

Regarding Phil Taylor's supposed character issues - apparently there is this belief out there that suggests Pioli may not believe in second chances and that getting into a fight (with some likely mouthy frat boys who probably don't know sh*t about life) when you're a sophomore in college might be considered by Pioli to be a permanent strike against the guy. If that's true, which I don't believe it is, then I say that's an utterly ridiculous view to hold. I know I'm a lot like the majority of the human race and if I had to be held accountable for the rest of my life for every stupid thing I did as a kid I know for a fact I would have never gotten anywhere in life.

As far as OT is concerned, I would take Gabe "The Hammer" Carimi over Derek Sherrod. Carimi, team captain, 2010 Outland Trophy winner, started all 4 years at LT for Wisc in every game he played, 49 in all, the 3 he did not start were games he missed due to injury in '08. Level of competion? Well, let's just say the Badgers went a mere 7-1 in the Big Ten in 2010 including an impressive upset over the Buckeyes. Miss St? A paltry 4-4 against the vaunted SEC last season. The difference? Carimi at LT = winning. Sherrod at LT = not so much. Carimi = nasty disposition. Sherrod = nice guy.

I'd be ecstatic with either Carimi or Sherrod. I slightly favor Carimi just for his mauler attitude. But if he's off the board, then Sherrod is a pretty damn good consolation pick.

I still say we should take Taylor unless this foot thing somehow turns out to be an absolute show-stopper. I doubt that's the case though. I mean even if there's a chance we only get 4 or 5 really good years out of Taylor because of this foot thing, it would still be worth taking him with the #21 pick by my reckoning. It's not like he's a top 5 pick that's going to tie up a ton of cap money for years and years to come.

First, I agree that they Taylor foot thing seems fishy. I will be thrilled if we take him because to me that will mean that both his feet and his "attitude" checked out with Pioli and that's good enough for me. I won't be upset if we pass though. If Pioli thinks the feet or his past are too big of question mark then take one of the several other options that bring good value at that spot.

Second, I too like Carimi over Sherrod and I agree that Carimi holds up pretty well to the "Pioli Test". However, Carimi is seen more as a "power" blocker then a technician and I think the Chiefs zone blocking scheme would come more naturally to Sherrod. Either way one of them would have some work to do. Carimi would have to work on his technique and mobility and Sherrod would have to hit the weight room.

Sherrod would be an excellent pick, as would Carimi, or Taylor.

As long as the Chiefs stay at #21, I don't think they can miss on their pick. Whether it is Carimi, Taylor, Sherrod, Pouncey, Smith, Kerrigan, or any 5 or 6 other players, they are going to land a starter in the 1st round.

Very well thought out and written article. I absolutely could see Pioli drafting him here but, I hope he doesnt. I think Orlando Franklin in the 3rd is better value then Sherrod in the 1st. Ive said before on this site I think the best thing for the Chiefs to do is trade down and get more picks and there will be players early in the 2nd or late first that could be starters for them right away. If the Chiefs stay at 21 there is so many directions they could go I'm not sure I would be surprised with anyone they took.

I agree that Sherrod is very much a Pioli pick. He's not going to get much love from Chiefs fans because he is not a "sexy" pick. He's nothing like Berry last year. He's nothing like Taylor/Ayers/Kerrin/Smith would be this year. He's a day one starter who will come in and improve our offensive line. He's not going to put up stats, make huge plays, or get his name called. But he's going to show up, do everything he is asked to do, and make the offense even better than it was last year.

I'm not sold on Ayers at #21 either. It sounds like he's got "motor issues" and some think he's actually better suited for the ILB spot in a 3-4. The only think I really like about him is that he'd be a huge upgrade in pass coverage for us.

I think Smith is too much of a reach at #21.

I agree that Sherrod is a solid, safe pick.

Aldon Smith is a reach at #21?

I don't want Ayers to be the pick at #21 either. But he fit my mold of sexy picks who will make plays and grab big stats.

Sorry, for some reason I thought of Torrey Smith the WR.

I've struggled about OT for the Chiefs since the overwhelming prediction of most mocks last year was Russell Okung (or Bulaga) for the Chiefs at #5. I was euphoric when Scott picked Eric Berry who was my dream pick.

This year, I've been on the Phil Taylor train because of the importance of completing our defensive front so they can mature and "jell" together (Pioli picked Seymour, Warren and Wilfork with 1st round picks in the early 2000's).

With Taylor's reported condition, I'm now confused about what we will do, but in spite of all the excellent reasons described in the article above, wouldn't it be better at #21 to pick a right tackle or a left tackle rather than a "swing" tackle who might not be an NFL starter at either?

Couldn't we get a "versatile" tackle to backup our starters in a later round?

If Taylor checks out physically and Pioli is confident that he really has turned things around after getting booted from PSU, then I think Taylor should be the pick.

Of the OT, I like Carimi. I think he'd be a great RT for the next decade. I just think Sherrod screams "Pioli Guy" and am preparing myself to hear his name called next Thursday. I think Sherrod would be a very good RT in a zone blocking scheme with the chance to move over to LT if we needed.