The CBA: Who’s To Blame And Is There Hope?

by Chiefs

With the Super Bowl now firmly in the rear view mirror most Kansas City Chiefs fans find themselves suffering from football withdraw. Most fans try to fill that gaping hole with the usual off season talk. Fans debate what their team needs are and make up wish lists for both the draft and free agency. However, this offseason even those efforts leave one feeling a little empty. The main reason for this is that the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) negotiations and looming lockout are hanging over the NFL off season like a giant black storm cloud.

Now most fans could care less about the CBA itself. All they want is football. The overall view is that this is billionaires arguing with millionaires over a couple percentage points here and there. When you put it in those terms, who could blame someone for not caring about either side and taking the attitude of “Just play football!”. That was my initial reaction. However, the more I listen to the details and the more information that comes out, I am changing my mind. I find myself very much on one side of the dispute.

I’ll take sides and explain why after the break.

Let me start by saying that I am not some kind of CBA expert. I didn’t spend hours pouring over the current CBA and reading transcripts from negotiations. This is all just my opinion based on the information that is out there in the mainstream media. So if after my little rant is over you feel that I’ve got it all wrong I’ll be more then willing to listen to your argument. My feeling is now that the owners are 100% at fault for this situation and I am fully behind the players association (NFLPA).

Let me start by saying that I don’t think these negotiations are about 18 games schedules, rookie wage scales, etc. Those are just different angles the owners are raising in the media to try and deflect from the real issue, they want more money. Not a little bit more, they want a sizable shift in the current revenue. The more I hear the more I think that this isn’t about coming to a deal that both sides can live with. I think the owners are out to “break” the NFLPA and we won’t have football again until the owners feel that they have “won” the negotiations.

Why do I feel this way? Let’s start with how we got to the current negotiations.

Over the last few months a couple key owners have let slip in the media that they were not happy at all with the last CBA. Basically it now appears clear that many owners feel that they signed a bad deal back then. They have since maneuvered themselves to fix this situation. Before they even began to talk of opting out of the current CBA they built themselves a “war fund” that they could live off of if they had to have a lockout and miss football games. They negotiated the current TV contract (which is where the biggest piece of the NFL pie comes from) so that the owners would still get paid even if there were no football games to televise. Was this just luck? No way. The owners had already decided behind closed doors that they would opt out of the current deal and once that television deal was struck the balance of power was fully in their corner.

Which brings me to my next point, the current CBA did not just expire on its own. It is expiring because the owners opted out of it. My initial thought was that, like everything else, the NFL is a business. The bottom line is making money and if the owners aren’t making money they have a right to run their business in a way that is profitable. The major problem I have though is that the owners have thus far refused to make available their “books”. If this current deal is so bad and they aren’t making good money why in the world wouldn’t they be jumping at the chance to prove their point? The answer is that they are making plenty of money as is. But here’s the thing about billionaires, they didn’t get to be billionaires by just being content to make “some” money. They got that rich because they obsessed over fighting for every possible dollar that they could get their hands on. I believe that the owners see that television contract as their insurance policy that will allow them to “break” the NFLPA even if it means missing games. The bottom line is money and if they think players will cave when they stop getting paychecks and sign a deal that greatly favors the owners, then that will make them more money over time then they will lose on one lost or shortened season.

The number one thing the owners are asking for is not an 18 game season or a rookie wage scale. It’s $1,000,000,000.00. That’s a lot of zeros, huh? In the current system the owners get one billion dollars off the top of all income before revenues are split with the players. The owners want to double that to 2 billion. Trust me; if the players came in tomorrow and agreed to that I’m guessing the owners would suddenly seem very flexible with the 18 games and rookie wage scale. So what does that extra billion dollars mean for the teams? That averages out to about 31 million dollars per team. Currently 57% of the post cut revenue goes to players salaries. So 57% of 31 million is about 17.7 million less per team in salary per season. That’s a pretty big pay cut for the most popular and profitable sport in the country. You add that to the fact that the owners want two more games from the players after cutting league wide salaries by over 560 million dollars. This is just flat out greed.

The owners are hoping that like in past sports strikes/lockouts the public won’t take a side. They love the “Who cares, its millionaires arguing with billionaires” stance that many have. They are hoping that all people think of are the Peyton Mannings of the world that already have more money then they could spend in a lifetime. They don’t want you thinking of those league minimum lineman and line backers that only last long enough in the league to ensure that they have knee, back, and head pain for the rest of their life. Now don’t get me wrong, they chose that life knowing it would take a toll and yes league minimum is still more then most of us will ever make. I would still rather “that guy” who is actually out there on the filed got the extra sliver of the pie then some owner that just sits in a suite and watches his cash come in.

I’m usually known for my optimism, but if you haven’t noticed this week I don’t have a lot of it. Is there any hope? To be honest, it doesn’t look very good right now. Yahoo had a front page story on how Carolina owner Jerry Richardson was belittling players like Peyton Manning and Drew Brees at the last negotiations. According to one source Richardson at one point asked Manning “Do I need to help you read a revenue chart son?” That doesn’t sound like an owner that has any intention of coming to an agreement. That sounds like someone who knows he has the upper hand so he doesn’t give a damn about what the other side wants or thinks. If all the owners are loyal to the position and attitude of owners like Richardson and Jerry Jones we will only have football when the players cave and give the owners their “victory”. That won’t happen until several games are missed and players start to turn on the union because they need a paycheck. If the owners do refuse to negotiate and push things to that point I will have to think long and hard about whether or not I want to give the NFL any more of my hard earned dollars. I will always root for the Chiefs and watch every snap of every game. However, the players get the same money if the stadiums are full or not. The owners don’t. Do I want my Chiefs to play in front of a full crowd? Of course, but it will be a real battle for me to spend the little bit of spare income my family has on a ticket, parking, concessions, etc. after witnessing this display of greed.

What makes it worse for me is that this is all happening at a time when the country needs its national pastime (sorry baseball, its not you anymore). The down economy has a lot of people struggling and the NFL is an outlet that brings a few hours of joy and entertainment to people who may not have a lot else right now. To take that away from those people so that they can go from making a lot of money to making tons of money makes me sick.

So there’s no hope at all?

Well, there are two possible scenarios where everything works out in my mind. First, the owners are giving the appearance of being greedy jerks who don’t care about missing games because of their TV contract just to gain an upper hand in negotiating and eventually will strike a deal before any serous time is missed. In this scenario we would have to assume that the owners really don’t want a full extra billion off the top and will eventually be willing to negotiate. That’s not the vibe I’m getting from the Jerry Jones and Jerry Richardson’s out there.

My second possible hope is that there are owners out there that care enough about the game itself and its fans to break ranks from the Jerry’s of the NFL to get something done. I don’t know a lot about Clark Hunt. I have however read and heard enough about his father Lamar Hunt to know that Lamar was not just in this for the money. This was not just a bottom line to him. I am hoping that Clark Hunt is the same way. I mean, anyone who is deeply dedicated to pro soccer in the USA clearly isn’t just a sports owner for the profit, right? My hope is that there are enough decent owners out there that will step forward when its gut check time. This may be a pipe dream, but there’s a little of that optimism I’m known for still here.

To close, I will say this. The really frustrating thing about this is that there isn’t much we as fans can do. Even if there is a lockout and we as fans decide to boycott games after they come back, that will be after the fact. It won’t help speed up the process any. Here’s what I’m going to do. I’m giving the owners until June 1st to get something done. If there is no agreement in place by that time then my next weekly post here on AA will be an open letter to Clark Hunt. The letter will explain my thoughts and feelings about the situation and ask him to take action. Not only will I post the letter here, I will also actually mail the letter to 1 Arrowhead Drive and will also encourage the readers hear at AA to do the same.

Here’s to hoping it doesn’t come to that.

As usual, thanks for reading and GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!

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I can see both sides of the ball on this issue. As far as the owners books go??? Anyone who works for a non-public traded company, go ask the owner if you can see his financials. I bet you lose your job on the spot....It is no ones business how much those billionaires make. Do I believe they are losing money? No, I do not. Do I believe this is about greed? Yes, I do. But their financials will not be made public information, nor should they be. I can say that even though he was a raider, I miss Gene Upshaw. He had clout with the NFL. He dealt with them eye to eye. Smith is a joke, he is doing this to further his political career, if you do not believe me, google him. He has made it no secret that he has political aspirations and he will not be the NFLPA leader for a long term. He is using this situation to get popularity behind him. One other thing...If the players and owners wanted to be fair from top to bottom. Take all 9 billion and split it evenly, also split stadium maintenance, marketing, etc., etc., etc. evenly. No money off the top. Pay for all expenses first then divey money out 50-50. That is fairness. That deal will never happen, players want no part of their income going into maintenance and marketing, and owners don't believe that they are equal to players. Without players, owners would not be necessary! And vice versa.

One other thing, in the last 2 years I have really turned my focus to college football and basketball. I used to only pay attention to professional ball, but the greed has turned me off. And now that it has come to light in professional football I am getting more and more disinterest in it as well. I love my Chiefs, but if we come to a lockout, I might just not be too heartbroken to turn my attention to my K-State Wildcats.

Dear Clark Hunt, Are you reading this?

Over 70% of players are bankrupt within 5 years of being out of the league according to statistics I've heard thrown around, so does it really matter how much they make? Really the owners are just ensuring that the money is not wasted and kept in the sport... In all seriousness, I would like to say without a doubt I could just throw my love of the Chiefs and NFL aside because of this vast amount of greed, but I don't think I could. Football to me is not about the owners and the players but about having pride in the city I came from. The sad thing is that the owners are playing on this the same way they charge $8.25 for a 16oz beer at the stadium because they know people will still pay it. Just like the government keeps taxing cigarettes more and more, and saying it's to get people to quit when they are counting on their addiction to increase revenue. As the late great George Carlin would have said in this situation, "It's bullshit, and it's bad for ya." The sad thing is that people (myself included) are more often than not weak beings that cannot break certain habits. Also, what other impact does this have if there is a massive fallout of fans? The owners are still filthy rich, but the working class people at the stadiums, the retail stores, the clothing/merchandise companies, websites, and tons of others suffery. Make no mistake, the owners are not just holding the players ransom here. They understand the impact this sport has on the GNP and are leveraging it in a way that reminds me why unions can be a good thing. You all probably remember this, but my biggest gripe is that lots of teams are taking money from the city (how much did Jackson County shell out for the stadium renovations?) for their private companies under threat of leaving and then holding the sport over our head to increase their gain. To me that is f*cking criminal. I'm sure just like they padded the television contracts they put stipulations in the agreements with cities/states. So to shove this back in their face maybe there's massive construction all around every stadium next season. The players still get to play and thus get paid, but no one shows up because they don't want to screw with the traffic. That would put a smile on my face. Just like the name of this site infers, we are addicted to the Chiefs and that is what the owners are counting on in the event of a lockout. Damn it's depressing, but it's true. Maybe if we boycott we could start another site for group therapy for recovering Addicts. "You can shear a sheep many times, but skin it only once"

Good article. Pointed out some good points. I personally think that there is enough blame for each side that I'm not happy with both the owners and the NFLPA. For what I think is a pretty good run down of the CBA I found reading Andrew Brandt's articles over at National Football Post helped my understanding. I'm part of the group that says "It's millionaires arguing with billionaires." However, instead of saying "Who cares?" I'm saying, "I care." The NFL is the golden goose for players and owners both. It would be foolish if a single dollar is lost because of this. A couple points: 1) The NFLPA has admitted that they got the better deal in the previous CBA. Shouldn't be unexpected for the owners to try and balance that out this time. 2) The total number of pre- and regular season games will not change in the owners 18 game regular season proposal. 3) Richardson and Jones are tools. Unfair to assume all owners are tools. 4) The reason both the NFL and its owners make so much money is that the popularity of the sport has grown. The sport has grown because of business moves the owners have made. The growth has led to the incredible salary cap and minimum salary growth in the NFL. Which leads to the logic that when the owners win, so do the players because the whole pie grows. Keep in mind that not spending money in the stadiums and on merchandise means the owners will want to re-slice the pie again. 5) Yes, the owners prepared for a lockout. Not unreasonable for them to do so. Savvy business moves like that are the reason they have the money they do. 6) The NFLPA has owner books available to them from the Green Bay Packers. No reason for them to need any other team's. Most of these comments seem pro-owner. I only put them because the article was pro-NFLPA. Altogether I'm pro-fan. Getting a deal done idiots.

Some counters, 2. You can't say that players don't have to play more games just because they take away two preseason. Not only will the players have to play two more full out games as opposed to preseason when they sometimes only play a couple series, but the two preseason games they do have they will have to play more to make sure they are ready to go in a shorter amount of time. 5. There is a difference for being prepared for a lockout and purposely using a lock out to break the union at the expense of the fans. 6. Saying the books of one team are all they need is silly. The revenue coming in from one team to the next is bound to be very different. The rest of the points I can agree with. Thanks for the comments.

1) No one says the starters have to play any of preseason games at all. The starters don't play preseason games during the season and they seem to do alright. Those opening games may be of lower quality play-wise because of it, but that's what happens now. Meanwhile, the season ticket holder gets more value for his tickets. 2) I have seen no proof that the owners are trying to break the union. In fact, the NFL is suing the union because the NFLPA is refusing to come to the negotiating table. Which, if won, would actually make sure the union continued to exist. 3) It's not silly to say they only need one team's books because they are not negotiating on a team by team basis but about the whole NFL pie. They have the books for the whole pie and are given the Packers' books as the example of a team's books. There is no reason to need more than that example. Thanks for the article and responding.

Aren't the packers owned by the city though? That right there is fishy to me. The one team's books that are opened is the team that doesn't have an owner. I have a hard time believing thats a coincidence.

You’re exactly right and it is why the books are open in Green Bay. They are the exception that way. I think everyone here wants a deal done. The opinion expressed is the owners will never spend the money they have and are throwing a fit for more. It's an immoral greed that has been pointed out here. The union head is being a bit of an ass himself. He doesn’t' carry himself as an excellent professional. In my opinion they should have hired a brilliant debater or some word smith that could cool heads on both sides with some logic. It seems right now everyone is just bickering from what I hear. It is a fact that it is millionaire's vs. billionaires were if I dare say if most people who read this blog may never even think about having except in their wildest dreams. But I don’t feel anyone subscriber to these articles is angry in jealousy I think it is rather confusion anger. The fact that they are threatening our beloved entertainment for the sake of an extra billion a year is just more than I personally can wrap my mind around. 1946 Might I say Sir my heart is crushed by your comment. While you were around to watch the Chiefs win a super bowl I am positive that it is somehow not the same as if they won the big dance today. I believe in God and I know this may seem over the top of me but I pray from time to time that I am alive long enough to see my home team win it all. I'm 28 years old and sometimes I am skeptical that it will happen, because well it has not for my first 28. It's not just the game for me as much as so many people coming together with one common purpose. I hope like you that Pioli can put it together and keep us competitive. And let’s all hope golden goose lets the owner breed her a little harder so he can have his extra egg to place on the wall for all us measly peasants to look at.

Adam, you make some great points especially #3 pertaining to the owners. I don't see how you can judge a person based only on their pocketbook. Who DOESN'T want more money. It's in our psyche. I'll tell you what, if anyone doesn't want their money I will gladly take it. Don't get me wrong, a lockout would piss me off big time, but I would be mad at both sides. I wouldn't stop being a Chiefs fan.

One more thing.. I think I would rather have the owners with a larger share for the reason that they would probably spend it and make the league better. The players don't reinvest in the NFL. Some players spend their money foolishly. They buy gold chains a` la Jamarcus Russell. They spend it fighting dogs. They spend it making it rain in strip clubs that end in shootings. They gamble it away. There's good and bad on both sides.

TIDL, In addition to the fact that you are engaging in generalites intended to tarnish the rep of all players, you also seem to be more than willing to spread a false gospel that owners are less apt to spend their money foolishly or on morally reprehensible things. Al Davis wearing gold chains? Perish the thought! If you continue to promote this notion that we should, for moral reasons or for our own economic good, be in support of the rich getting richer, I have some sure win investments that Bernie Madoff personally recommended to me which I can transfer to you for a very reasonable entry fee.

If you read my post i finished with "there's good and bad on both sides" meaning not all players are good not all bad. I just don't know of ANY players reinvesting money in the NFL. I do know of owners that do so. Listen, we live in a capatolist society. Don't be naive. The rich are always getting richer and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

Owners re-investing in their property - hmmm, wow! what a great bunch of guys!! Unfettered Capitalism has the potential for just as much evil, if not moreso, as Communism, Slavery, and a whole host of other really bad "isms." It's certainly your right to express yourself by bending over in hopeless futility. It's also my right to object to such nonsense at some point and tell them straight to their face "not this time boys."

It is great that the owners reinvest in the infastructure of the NFL. I don't see how you argue that point. As for money being the root of all evil I agree. I also don't live in fantasy world and think that my lone opinion will make a rats ass difference. it's funny, I heard "not this time" this morning from an ant as I crushed him with my shoe. Some fights you can't win. I applaud your optimism though

This article was f*cking tight, Lyle. I'm gonna be facebook linking it for sure.

Thanks Matt, I appreciate that.

The more I think about this, and about how expensive it is for the average joe to attend a game, what impact a lock-out would have on small businesses, on various service industries, on county/city tax revenues lost, the angrier I become. I find myself contemplating whether the owner's position on this might actually kill my love for pro football. This is coming from a current season ticket holder who has been a dedicated fan of the Chiefs for over 45 years. To put this in a little perspective I love watching good baseketball but I do not follow pro ball, just college hoops. Big fan of NCAA basketball in fact. Hate pro basketball. Right now, as much as I love NFL football, I am personally struggling with why I should support such callous greed? In fact, I have this creeping sense that it is a bit immoral for me to do so. I am beginning to visualize myself just watching college football. If I am feeling this way, it seems natural to me that many other, much less dedicated fans are feeling or soon might feel similarly. In this day and age, considering the state of the economy, the excessiveness of the super wealthy, I believe this could be a very dangerous course that the owners have embarked upon. I think it's entirely possible they've miscalculated how the majority of fans will react as this all sinks into our collective consciousness.

"Right now, as much as I love NFL football, I am personally struggling with why I should support such callous greed? In fact, I have this creeping sense that it is a bit immoral for me to do so" Right there with you, buddy. We look back at history and think we've come so far. What will the future think when they look back on us? This is greed and corruption on par with anything in ancient Rome, feudalism or Tammany Hall. And its not just the lockout. This feeling has been building in me for quite some time. these ownrs are despicable. If they go where it looks like they're headed......they're going to have lost a paying fan, and made a lifelong enemy. I can only hope thousands, maybe even millions of others feel the same. If these owners force a lockout to break the NFLPA I want to see those stadiums empty.

If you throw in my distain for Glass and the Royals, I am with you. But have to wonder if it is our age talking. I believe there is a time when we outgrow things we love. Can afford tickets to Royals and Chiefs, do not spend a penny on Royals. Still love the Chiefs but I am approaching a point where I choose to NOT spend money on the Chiefs. It is time for my nephews to start buying the family tickets, forgot they do not make that kind of discretionary money. My time is about over and that is why I am hard on Pioli, I need results now. I am getting tired of the greed of players and owners, so maybe it is for the best.

College football is just as dirty. The school makes millions off of kids that get nothing more than an education that in most instances they do not actually receive. You're telling me it's okay for a kid to work and make money in the school bookstore, but a team that brings in 80,000 fans isn't allowed to make a dime because they're "amateurs?" The scholarships for the most part mean nothing because the players really don't do their school work. Point in fact is that most players are bankrupt a few years after leaving the NFL because they have no money management skills and have no actual job skills to fall back on. On top of that, recruiting is done under the table with money from boosters paying the kids and their families. It's a total bastardization of the system. The NCAA lets it go on and makes little pokes and prods here and there so it seems like they're investigating, but really they know if they dug down deep the house of cards would fall because most of the best athletes either wouldn't or couldn't hack it. Now pee wee football, that's worth looking into : )

Valid points Nick. I know bad stuff goes on in college sports but for some reason it just doesn't seem quite as immoral as what the NFL does. Mind you, I'm not an "end justifies the means" type of guy, but I think one has to at least acknowledge the goals and motivations of colleges versus those of NFL owners. Competition for players at the college level is mainly driven by schools seeking to make their institutions more attractive to prospective students and to keep their alumni interested and involved. The funding which they derive from sports, both directly and indirectly, contributes to the presumed social betterment that higher institutions seek to achieve - i.e. education, research, and/or scientific/social/artistic advancements. Are any of the socially positive things that colleges seek to do also the primary motivation of NFL owners? Hell No. They are driven by one thing and one thing only - wanton greed. I also say all this reveals the lesser angels in those of us who have become completely comfortable with empowering this small yet highly manipulative legion of demons. We demand our gladiators at any price and they happily deliver.

I can see both sides of the ball on this issue. As far as the owners books go??? Anyone who works for a non-public traded company, go ask the owner if you can see his financials. I bet you lose your job on the spot....It is no ones business how much those billionaires make. Do I believe they are losing money? No, I do not. Do I believe this is about greed? Yes, I do. But their financials will not be made public information, nor should they be. I can say that even though he was a raider, I miss Gene Upshaw. He had clout with the NFL. He dealt with them eye to eye. Smith is a joke, he is doing this to further his political career, if you do not believe me, google him. He has made it no secret that he has political aspirations and he will not be the NFLPA leader for a long term. He is using this situation to get popularity behind him.

One other thing...If the players and owners wanted to be fair from top to bottom. Take all 9 billion and split it evenly, also split stadium maintenance, marketing, etc., etc., etc. evenly. No money off the top. Pay for all expenses first then divey money out 50-50. That is fairness. That deal will never happen, players want no part of their income going into maintenance and marketing, and owners don't believe that they are equal to players. Without players, owners would not be necessary! And vice versa.

One other thing, in the last 2 years I have really turned my focus to college football and basketball. I used to only pay attention to professional ball, but the greed has turned me off. And now that it has come to light in professional football I am getting more and more disinterest in it as well. I love my Chiefs, but if we come to a lockout, I might just not be too heartbroken to turn my attention to my K-State Wildcats.

Dear Clark Hunt,

Are you reading this?

Over 70% of players are bankrupt within 5 years of being out of the league according to statistics I've heard thrown around, so does it really matter how much they make? Really the owners are just ensuring that the money is not wasted and kept in the sport...

In all seriousness, I would like to say without a doubt I could just throw my love of the Chiefs and NFL aside because of this vast amount of greed, but I don't think I could. Football to me is not about the owners and the players but about having pride in the city I came from. The sad thing is that the owners are playing on this the same way they charge $8.25 for a 16oz beer at the stadium because they know people will still pay it. Just like the government keeps taxing cigarettes more and more, and saying it's to get people to quit when they are counting on their addiction to increase revenue. As the late great George Carlin would have said in this situation, "It's bullshit, and it's bad for ya."

The sad thing is that people (myself included) are more often than not weak beings that cannot break certain habits. Also, what other impact does this have if there is a massive fallout of fans? The owners are still filthy rich, but the working class people at the stadiums, the retail stores, the clothing/merchandise companies, websites, and tons of others suffery. Make no mistake, the owners are not just holding the players ransom here. They understand the impact this sport has on the GNP and are leveraging it in a way that reminds me why unions can be a good thing. You all probably remember this, but my biggest gripe is that lots of teams are taking money from the city (how much did Jackson County shell out for the stadium renovations?) for their private companies under threat of leaving and then holding the sport over our head to increase their gain. To me that is f*cking criminal. I'm sure just like they padded the television contracts they put stipulations in the agreements with cities/states. So to shove this back in their face maybe there's massive construction all around every stadium next season. The players still get to play and thus get paid, but no one shows up because they don't want to screw with the traffic. That would put a smile on my face.

Just like the name of this site infers, we are addicted to the Chiefs and that is what the owners are counting on in the event of a lockout. Damn it's depressing, but it's true. Maybe if we boycott we could start another site for group therapy for recovering Addicts.

"You can shear a sheep many times, but skin it only once"

Good article. Pointed out some good points. I personally think that there is enough blame for each side that I'm not happy with both the owners and the NFLPA.

For what I think is a pretty good run down of the CBA I found reading Andrew Brandt's articles over at National Football Post helped my understanding.

I'm part of the group that says "It's millionaires arguing with billionaires." However, instead of saying "Who cares?" I'm saying, "I care." The NFL is the golden goose for players and owners both. It would be foolish if a single dollar is lost because of this.

A couple points:

1) The NFLPA has admitted that they got the better deal in the previous CBA. Shouldn't be unexpected for the owners to try and balance that out this time.

2) The total number of pre- and regular season games will not change in the owners 18 game regular season proposal.

3) Richardson and Jones are tools. Unfair to assume all owners are tools.

4) The reason both the NFL and its owners make so much money is that the popularity of the sport has grown. The sport has grown because of business moves the owners have made. The growth has led to the incredible salary cap and minimum salary growth in the NFL. Which leads to the logic that when the owners win, so do the players because the whole pie grows. Keep in mind that not spending money in the stadiums and on merchandise means the owners will want to re-slice the pie again.

5) Yes, the owners prepared for a lockout. Not unreasonable for them to do so. Savvy business moves like that are the reason they have the money they do.

6) The NFLPA has owner books available to them from the Green Bay Packers. No reason for them to need any other team's.

Most of these comments seem pro-owner. I only put them because the article was pro-NFLPA. Altogether I'm pro-fan. Getting a deal done idiots.

Some counters,

2. You can't say that players don't have to play more games just because they take away two preseason. Not only will the players have to play two more full out games as opposed to preseason when they sometimes only play a couple series, but the two preseason games they do have they will have to play more to make sure they are ready to go in a shorter amount of time.

5. There is a difference for being prepared for a lockout and purposely using a lock out to break the union at the expense of the fans.

6. Saying the books of one team are all they need is silly. The revenue coming in from one team to the next is bound to be very different.

The rest of the points I can agree with. Thanks for the comments.

1) No one says the starters have to play any of preseason games at all. The starters don't play preseason games during the season and they seem to do alright. Those opening games may be of lower quality play-wise because of it, but that's what happens now. Meanwhile, the season ticket holder gets more value for his tickets.

2) I have seen no proof that the owners are trying to break the union. In fact, the NFL is suing the union because the NFLPA is refusing to come to the negotiating table. Which, if won, would actually make sure the union continued to exist.

3) It's not silly to say they only need one team's books because they are not negotiating on a team by team basis but about the whole NFL pie. They have the books for the whole pie and are given the Packers' books as the example of a team's books. There is no reason to need more than that example.

Thanks for the article and responding.

Aren't the packers owned by the city though? That right there is fishy to me. The one team's books that are opened is the team that doesn't have an owner. I have a hard time believing thats a coincidence.

You’re exactly right and it is why the books are open in Green Bay. They are the exception that way.

I think everyone here wants a deal done. The opinion expressed is the owners will never spend the money they have and are throwing a fit for more. It's an immoral greed that has been pointed out here. The union head is being a bit of an ass himself. He doesn’t' carry himself as an excellent professional. In my opinion they should have hired a brilliant debater or some word smith that could cool heads on both sides with some logic. It seems right now everyone is just bickering from what I hear.

It is a fact that it is millionaire's vs. billionaires were if I dare say if most people who read this blog may never even think about having except in their wildest dreams. But I don’t feel anyone subscriber to these articles is angry in jealousy I think it is rather confusion anger. The fact that they are threatening our beloved entertainment for the sake of an extra billion a year is just more than I personally can wrap my mind around.

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Might I say Sir my heart is crushed by your comment. While you were around to watch the Chiefs win a super bowl I am positive that it is somehow not the same as if they won the big dance today. I believe in God and I know this may seem over the top of me but I pray from time to time that I am alive long enough to see my home team win it all. I'm 28 years old and sometimes I am skeptical that it will happen, because well it has not for my first 28.

It's not just the game for me as much as so many people coming together with one common purpose. I hope like you that Pioli can put it together and keep us competitive.

And let’s all hope golden goose lets the owner breed her a little harder so he can have his extra egg to place on the wall for all us measly peasants to look at.

Adam, you make some great points especially #3 pertaining to the owners. I don't see how you can judge a person based only on their pocketbook. Who DOESN'T want more money. It's in our psyche. I'll tell you what, if anyone doesn't want their money I will gladly take it.

Don't get me wrong, a lockout would piss me off big time, but I would be mad at both sides. I wouldn't stop being a Chiefs fan.

One more thing.. I think I would rather have the owners with a larger share for the reason that they would probably spend it and make the league better. The players don't reinvest in the NFL. Some players spend their money foolishly. They buy gold chains a` la Jamarcus Russell. They spend it fighting dogs. They spend it making it rain in strip clubs that end in shootings. They gamble it away. There's good and bad on both sides.

TIDL,

In addition to the fact that you are engaging in generalites intended to tarnish the rep of all players, you also seem to be more than willing to spread a false gospel that owners are less apt to spend their money foolishly or on morally reprehensible things. Al Davis wearing gold chains? Perish the thought!

If you continue to promote this notion that we should, for moral reasons or for our own economic good, be in support of the rich getting richer, I have some sure win investments that Bernie Madoff personally recommended to me which I can transfer to you for a very reasonable entry fee.

If you read my post i finished with "there's good and bad on both sides" meaning not all players are good not all bad. I just don't know of ANY players reinvesting money in the NFL. I do know of owners that do so.
Listen, we live in a capatolist society. Don't be naive. The rich are always getting richer and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

Owners re-investing in their property - hmmm, wow! what a great bunch of guys!!

Unfettered Capitalism has the potential for just as much evil, if not moreso, as Communism, Slavery, and a whole host of other really bad "isms." It's certainly your right to express yourself by bending over in hopeless futility. It's also my right to object to such nonsense at some point and tell them straight to their face "not this time boys."

It is great that the owners reinvest in the infastructure of the NFL. I don't see how you argue that point. As for money being the root of all evil I agree. I also don't live in fantasy world and think that my lone opinion will make a rats ass difference.

it's funny, I heard "not this time" this morning from an ant as I crushed him with my shoe. Some fights you can't win. I applaud your optimism though

This article was f*cking tight, Lyle. I'm gonna be facebook linking it for sure.

Thanks Matt, I appreciate that.

The more I think about this, and about how expensive it is for the average joe to attend a game, what impact a lock-out would have on small businesses, on various service industries, on county/city tax revenues lost, the angrier I become. I find myself contemplating whether the owner's position on this might actually kill my love for pro football. This is coming from a current season ticket holder who has been a dedicated fan of the Chiefs for over 45 years.

To put this in a little perspective I love watching good baseketball but I do not follow pro ball, just college hoops. Big fan of NCAA basketball in fact. Hate pro basketball.

Right now, as much as I love NFL football, I am personally struggling with why I should support such callous greed? In fact, I have this creeping sense that it is a bit immoral for me to do so. I am beginning to visualize myself just watching college football.

If I am feeling this way, it seems natural to me that many other, much less dedicated fans are feeling or soon might feel similarly. In this day and age, considering the state of the economy, the excessiveness of the super wealthy, I believe this could be a very dangerous course that the owners have embarked upon. I think it's entirely possible they've miscalculated how the majority of fans will react as this all sinks into our collective consciousness.

"Right now, as much as I love NFL football, I am personally struggling with why I should support such callous greed? In fact, I have this creeping sense that it is a bit immoral for me to do so"

Right there with you, buddy. We look back at history and think we've come so far. What will the future think when they look back on us? This is greed and corruption on par with anything in ancient Rome, feudalism or Tammany Hall.

And its not just the lockout. This feeling has been building in me for quite some time. these ownrs are despicable. If they go where it looks like they're headed......they're going to have lost a paying fan, and made a lifelong enemy. I can only hope thousands, maybe even millions of others feel the same. If these owners force a lockout to break the NFLPA I want to see those stadiums empty.

If you throw in my distain for Glass and the Royals, I am with you. But have to wonder if it is our age talking. I believe there is a time when we outgrow things we love. Can afford tickets to Royals and Chiefs, do not spend a penny on Royals. Still love the Chiefs but I am approaching a point where I choose to NOT spend money on the Chiefs. It is time for my nephews to start buying the family tickets, forgot they do not make that kind of discretionary money. My time is about over and that is why I am hard on Pioli, I need results now. I am getting tired of the greed of players and owners, so maybe it is for the best.

College football is just as dirty. The school makes millions off of kids that get nothing more than an education that in most instances they do not actually receive. You're telling me it's okay for a kid to work and make money in the school bookstore, but a team that brings in 80,000 fans isn't allowed to make a dime because they're "amateurs?" The scholarships for the most part mean nothing because the players really don't do their school work. Point in fact is that most players are bankrupt a few years after leaving the NFL because they have no money management skills and have no actual job skills to fall back on. On top of that, recruiting is done under the table with money from boosters paying the kids and their families. It's a total bastardization of the system. The NCAA lets it go on and makes little pokes and prods here and there so it seems like they're investigating, but really they know if they dug down deep the house of cards would fall because most of the best athletes either wouldn't or couldn't hack it.

Now pee wee football, that's worth looking into : )

Valid points Nick. I know bad stuff goes on in college sports but for some reason it just doesn't seem quite as immoral as what the NFL does. Mind you, I'm not an "end justifies the means" type of guy, but I think one has to at least acknowledge the goals and motivations of colleges versus those of NFL owners.

Competition for players at the college level is mainly driven by schools seeking to make their institutions more attractive to prospective students and to keep their alumni interested and involved. The funding which they derive from sports, both directly and indirectly, contributes to the presumed social betterment that higher institutions seek to achieve - i.e. education, research, and/or scientific/social/artistic advancements.

Are any of the socially positive things that colleges seek to do also the primary motivation of NFL owners? Hell No. They are driven by one thing and one thing only - wanton greed.

I also say all this reveals the lesser angels in those of us who have become completely comfortable with empowering this small yet highly manipulative legion of demons. We demand our gladiators at any price and they happily deliver.