My Chief Concerns: Todd Haley Can Do Whatever He Wants To

It is true that Haley was a success this year, but as Jeremy suggests, that will mean little next year. Herm made the playoffs his first year, and was gone two years later. It just does not appear that Haley is a top tier coach. Some suggest he will mature. That is possible. He won 10 games this year (easy schedule or not) and several players took steps up on performance. I just fear next season will be a disaster, and Pioli then will conclude it is time to move on to a top tier coach.

It's amazing how parallel everyone's thinking is around here; even if we don't agree. You said to Patrick you were just writing an article when he came out with his. I commented on that article and it seems like your article responded to some of the things I said, even though I know you published it before my previous comments. When it comes to the Chiefs, we are all more alike than we are different.

Steady improvement in the NFL doesn't always mean a better record. It'd be nice though. If Haley does get run out for a season falling short of 10-6 it'd be a mistake. Given their schedule, the Chiefs will need to get significantly better to have an 8-8 season. Next year will be tough. Hopefully they'll rise to the schedule.

And if all of those work for him and he gets AFC Coach of the year more power to him :) Check out the link 101 awards named him coach of the year. http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/101-Awards-Honor-Todd-Haley-as-AFC-Coach-of-the-Year/6eef91e0-012f-477b-a46b-e2a84dd899bd

Good post, well said and to the point. As a fan I like to chip in my 2 cents worth, but at the end of the day, Haley must do what he thinks is best for the team. Leadership has the burden of creating a vision, and as often the case, we struggle as fans to accept that vision. But as you correctly posited, Haley will be judged ultimately by his won loss record. Right now he's looking pretty good.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with this post. In Kansas City, I want a perennial play-off contender and I realize that it takes time to build a program that will contend year after year. I won't be disappointed with Todd Haley if he goes 6-10 next year; as long as we see player development and evidence that the team is getting better. Also, I personally want a coach that I can be proud of. Yes, winning is important, but I want to do it with class. McDaniels is out in Denver, not because he lost, but because of all the stupid, polarizing mistakes that he made. I think that it will be difficult to build a perennial contender if the head coach was always running off assistant coaches and players. Now, I don't think Haley deserves a lot of the grief that he's been getting. I'm in complete agreement with Pat's opinions. I don't blame Haley for Gailey or Weis. And, I was very impressed to see Haley's 'maturity' on the sidelines. But to suggest that he should/will receive a pass if he 'just wins' seems a bit short-sided to me. For an argument to be true, then it's inverse also needs to be true... Fire him if he doesn't win. I'm sure that Pittsburgh is happy that they stood by Cowher when he suffered through losing seasons. By doing so, they've built a team that contends year in and year out. So, I hope to see Haley continue to mature and I hope to see him and Pioli put together a team that is continually in the hunt for the play-offs and a SUPERBOWL!

Well said Jeremy. The thing that just boggles my mind is this rampant belief that "Haley should just hire an OC and butt out when it comes to the offense!" What?!?! I'm sorry, but does Rex Ryan "butt out" of the Jets defensive strategy? Does Shawn Peyton "butt out" of the Saints offensive game plan? Haley is the HEAD COACH, it's his team and he is an offensive minded coach. A coach that was a good enough OC to get his team to the Super Bowl. He SHOULD be the one that decides what the team's approach and game plan should be. If the OC doesn't want his input then that's his problem. It's not the OC's name that the record gets attached to. It's like if people said Pioli should "butt out" of the Chiefs draft selections and just let the scouts do it. Somebody has to make the ultimate decision. Somebody has to put their name and reputation on the line as THE one in charge. As far as the coaching staff goes that person is Haley, so Haley should run things as he wants them. If it doesn't work then he will be fired. Thats the NFL. Rant over.

Yes but Im his boss through my pocketbook JH!

It is true that Haley was a success this year, but as Jeremy suggests, that will mean little next year. Herm made the playoffs his first year, and was gone two years later. It just does not appear that Haley is a top tier coach. Some suggest he will mature. That is possible. He won 10 games this year (easy schedule or not) and several players took steps up on performance. I just fear next season will be a disaster, and Pioli then will conclude it is time to move on to a top tier coach.

It's amazing how parallel everyone's thinking is around here; even if we don't agree. You said to Patrick you were just writing an article when he came out with his. I commented on that article and it seems like your article responded to some of the things I said, even though I know you published it before my previous comments. When it comes to the Chiefs, we are all more alike than we are different.

Steady improvement in the NFL doesn't always mean a better record. It'd be nice though. If Haley does get run out for a season falling short of 10-6 it'd be a mistake. Given their schedule, the Chiefs will need to get significantly better to have an 8-8 season. Next year will be tough. Hopefully they'll rise to the schedule.

And if all of those work for him and he gets AFC Coach of the year more power to him :) Check out the link 101 awards named him coach of the year. http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/101-Awards-Honor-Todd-Haley-as-AFC-Coach-of-the-Year/6eef91e0-012f-477b-a46b-e2a84dd899bd

Good post, well said and to the point. As a fan I like to chip in my 2 cents worth, but at the end of the day, Haley must do what he thinks is best for the team. Leadership has the burden of creating a vision, and as often the case, we struggle as fans to accept that vision. But as you correctly posited, Haley will be judged ultimately by his won loss record. Right now he's looking pretty good.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with this post. In Kansas City, I want a perennial play-off contender and I realize that it takes time to build a program that will contend year after year. I won't be disappointed with Todd Haley if he goes 6-10 next year; as long as we see player development and evidence that the team is getting better.

Also, I personally want a coach that I can be proud of. Yes, winning is important, but I want to do it with class. McDaniels is out in Denver, not because he lost, but because of all the stupid, polarizing mistakes that he made. I think that it will be difficult to build a perennial contender if the head coach was always running off assistant coaches and players.

Now, I don't think Haley deserves a lot of the grief that he's been getting. I'm in complete agreement with Pat's opinions. I don't blame Haley for Gailey or Weis. And, I was very impressed to see Haley's 'maturity' on the sidelines.

But to suggest that he should/will receive a pass if he 'just wins' seems a bit short-sided to me. For an argument to be true, then it's inverse also needs to be true... Fire him if he doesn't win. I'm sure that Pittsburgh is happy that they stood by Cowher when he suffered through losing seasons. By doing so, they've built a team that contends year in and year out.

So, I hope to see Haley continue to mature and I hope to see him and Pioli put together a team that is continually in the hunt for the play-offs and a SUPERBOWL!

Well said Jeremy. The thing that just boggles my mind is this rampant belief that "Haley should just hire an OC and butt out when it comes to the offense!"

What?!?!

I'm sorry, but does Rex Ryan "butt out" of the Jets defensive strategy? Does Shawn Peyton "butt out" of the Saints offensive game plan? Haley is the HEAD COACH, it's his team and he is an offensive minded coach. A coach that was a good enough OC to get his team to the Super Bowl. He SHOULD be the one that decides what the team's approach and game plan should be. If the OC doesn't want his input then that's his problem. It's not the OC's name that the record gets attached to. It's like if people said Pioli should "butt out" of the Chiefs draft selections and just let the scouts do it. Somebody has to make the ultimate decision. Somebody has to put their name and reputation on the line as THE one in charge. As far as the coaching staff goes that person is Haley, so Haley should run things as he wants them. If it doesn't work then he will be fired. Thats the NFL.

Rant over.

Yes but Im his boss through my pocketbook JH!