The Kid With The Golden Arm, by (Big) Matt Christopher

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The next Matt Blundin? (source: goarrowhead.com)

From the moment I heard about Matt Cassel’s appendectomy, I knew how this was going to play out.  It was just so obvious.  I considered writing an article Friday “predicting” Croyle’s inevitable terrible game, but restrained myself.  The thought of the comments I was sure to receive made me shudder.

I don’t know why so many people insist Brodie Croyle has a great arm.  It can’t be based on anything he’s done for us in an actual game.  When Brodie starts, the offense doesn’t move and we lose.  Every time.  Yet here we are in year five of his career, and people are still talking about what a great downfield passer he is.  And it isn’t just the “everything is awesome all the time” crowd, either.  I know plenty of smart football fans who were legitimately excited to see Croyle in action yesterday.  A few were even predicting he’d outshine Cassel.  It was mind-boggling.

I’ve been called a hater many times this year (mostly by angry mouth-breathers* with atrocious grammar), and obviously I don’t appreciate it.  But if you want to call me a Brodie Croyle hater, I’ve got no problem with that.  Because while I might not hate the man personally, I definitely hate seeing him play quarterback for my football team.

*The irony is that those accusing me of “hating” always seem so hate-filled themselves.

I’m sure excuses are being fabricated for Croyle even as I write this.  I’ve read several already.  The most popular seem to be a) “He only got to throw 17 passes!” and b) “It wasn’t Croyle’s fault; the team let him down!”  These ignore the fact that the reason he only threw 17 times was because he couldn’t convert a third down to save his life.  The rest of the team played poorly, no doubt.  But I think this game would’ve been very different with Cassel under center.  We probably still lose, but we don’t humiliate ourselves in the process.  Cassel would’ve converted a few third downs and at least moved the chains and put some points on the board.  The humiliation was pure Croyle.

If there is one silver lining to the beat-down we suffered yesterday, its that any talk of Croyle becoming the starter can officially be put to rest.  It should’ve been put to rest years ago.  Yes, the guy whips short passes really hard.  That doesn’t mean he has a good deep ball, and it certainly doesn’t mean he has “all the tools.”  If this playoff-threatening catastrophe was the last piece of evidence needed, then so be it.  The case for Brodie Croyle as NFL quarterback is officially closed.

A Croyle retrospectacus from your boy Big Matt after the jump:

In a way, I feel bad for Brodie.  He probably knows now that he’ll never again be a starter.  But the thing is, he should never have been a starter in the first place.  People forget this, but we didn’t start hearing about Croyle as a starter until after Clunt (Clark Hunt) spoke to the media about our need to “draft and develop a quarterback.”  At that point Herm Edwards, ever the opportunist, started pimping Croyle in an effort to make it look like he and the owner were always on the same page*.  He talked  predominantly about leadership and intangibles, as the third round pick had done nothing whatsoever to distinguish himself up to that point and, realistically, should never have been handed the starting job.

*Herm did this same thing when Carl Peterson “stepped down” (was fired).  Tried to act like it was something he and Clark had decided upon together.  The reality is that he too was surprised, and was desperately attempting to save his own job from the second he heard about it.  In one interview he said he knew Carl’s departure was imminent and that he and Clark had discussed it.  When he was asked when this happened, his answers became increasingly vague.  A few days later Clark Hunt revealed that he hadn’t consulted Herm, and I jumped for joy.  Because it was at that point I knew Herm was probably next.

But handed the job he was, and when the Hard Knocks cameras came to town, they immediately seized on the “young gunslinger vs aging veteran” storyline.  Herm’s fake smile was all over TV screens across the country talking about how Croyle can make throws nobody else can make.  All of the sudden, leadership and intangibles had morphed into a golden arm.  The show ran with it, fans ran with it, and here we are three years later with half the fan base still thinking this bad quarterback could break out at any time.  It isn’t going to happen.  The Brodie Croyle experiment is over.  It’s time to finally let Hermkenstein’s monster die.

Personally, I don’t even like having Croyle on the roster.  And it isn’t just his terrible record or abysmal play.  An injury-prone backup quarterback is a bridge to the third string, nothing more.  If Croyle has to play even 3 games in a row, chances are he will get hurt.  I don’t see any value in having a guy like that on your roster.  Especially when he also isn’t good.

Sorry Brodie-backers, but the party is over.  Even with the box stacked all day, your boy simply couldn’t make the throws.  He never could.  This is why even when I wasn’t high on Cassel, I knew he had to be the starter.  He is our only option.

The good news is Oakland’s goose is cooked and we’re still one-up on San Diego.  That loss to the Raiders last week really was a gift.  Even after an embarrassing blowout defeat, we still control our own destiny.  I’d rather be a Chiefs fan than a Chargers fan right now.

One last thing: I’d like to congratulate the Tin Man on his first NFL sack yesterday.  No joke, no snark, just a simple congratulations.  I didn’t think he’d get a sack this year.  He now leads Dorsey 1 to .5.  This, mine friends, is a good old-fashioned barn-burner.

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Honestly, I think there are more disbelievers than believers with Brodie. He had his chance last season. I understand he had no one to work with, but he was pitching to the same receivers that Tyler Thigpen was. The arm has never been the concern; it's what's between his ears--including an inability to adapt to the game (5 yd screen passes at 105mph, indecision once he has to start checking down, frail body). I actually predict Brodie will never take another NFL snap. I don't know how to investigate his contract (nor do I have the time). But his audition to win a starting position (with anyone) has been unsuccessful. And I suspect he'll cost more than new talent coming out of college. His days are done.

I claim the Jamarcus Russell comment, Big Matt. I actually agree with you, but I just couldn't help myself. Maybe I'm just looking for a little humor after Sunday. As I name those two busts, I'm also thinking of guys like the Manning brothers, Terry Bradshaw, Jim Plunkett, Troy Aikman, and stupid John Elway. Thanks for humoring me.

Ah, my bad. I thought that was Nycitychiefs and we were in the midst of a back-and-forth. Should've considered it was just someone kidding around. I'm suspicious of everything after a loss. The question is, who was worse, Leaf or Jamarcus?

Brodie has never played behind a decent O-Line in KC...including yesterday PS...Troy Aikman was 0-11 before his first win. Read on: http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/12/13/1872277/chiefs-vs-chargers-ii-breaking-down-the-o-line-tape

People have been trotting out that lameass Aikman comparison for 3 years now. It doesn't hold water. Aikman was the #1 overall pick, Croyle was picked at the end of the third round. Aikman's 11 losses all came as a rookie. This is Croyle's fifth year. Aikman was always supposed to be great, Croyle is perennially injury-prone and probably would've dropped to the 4th round or later if we hadn't picked him. Quarterbacks picked as late as Croyle usually don't succeed. There is reason to stick with a #1 overall pick who everyone thought was going to be good.

Me and my friend, Ryan Leaf couldn't agree with you more.

Well I think a lot of us predicted Jamarcus' failure though. I know I did. When you pick a guy #1 he gets more rope, thats all I'm saying. It's not like Croyle was supposed to be a superstar. If he'd been picked by any other team he might never have started a game. Top picks bust too. Very astute. care to compare their odds vs 3rd round QBs?

Brodie croyle played to the best of his ability, it is unfair to judge him based on his performance, yes granted, he didn't t play well however, the fault lies on the management of the team for not being prepared with an experienced quarterback leader, am disappointed with mgr staff for I believe they knew what was going to happen. The chiefs are a good team, however the players need a good leader on the field to boost their confidence and esteem to win. I hope the chiefs management is reading this and take note. The fans support their team. You should too..

So is it a consensus then that the Chiefs will be looking for someone else to back up Matt Cassel next year then. I sure hope so. KO he has started ten games and finished only seven games. He has lost every single game he has started it's time for him to go. Aside from that it did look like the Chiefs teams said you know what they are going to call a joke of a game on offense and on defense we are only rushing three here everyone else cover oh whats that Rivers just ran for the first down himslef well I quit. Or did the coaches say well boys we dont have our winner lets just get out of San Diego with out getting any injuries and show up to St Louis. Both of these sceniario's maybe.

Egg in my face, I thought he would show improvement, he did not. The whole team sucked yesterday though. Worst performance I have ever seen from an NFL team. Heres to a speedy recovery for Cassel!

I was a Brodie-Backer going into this game. I was confident that our offense had improved since the last time he was under center. That, combined with the time he's had to mature and learn our new system, had me convinced that he would look as good, if not better than, Cassle. Boy do I look silly now. He definitely looked worse than cassel had at any point this year. The coaches didn't do him many favors, but this (to quote herm) "is on the players". That was the first time since herm that we haven't finished watching a chiefs game. Almost everyone on our roster had a bad game but Brodie took the cake for the worst (worsted). I ran into #1 chiefs blocker the other night, that was fun!!!

i too was surprised how bad brodie looked out there. but, there was that moment when i turned to you right as the game was about to begin and i asked, "is this game going to be embarrassing or not embarrassing" and you smiled and said, "embarrassing". and i agreed. there was just a feeling out there that was hard to ignore.

I believe it was Wednesday night when we heard the news and I ran into you. I wanted to believe Brodie would do ok and your optimism swayed me into leaning that way. The talk of "Broadway Brodie" and the assurance of a QB controversy in two weeks were just what I needed to jump on the Brodie bandwagon with you. I'm not blaming you because I was looking for a reason to hop on the wagon. I was off after the first drive. We need Cassel back. Just as my hatred for the Rams started to die away, I have been getting bombarded with texts from Rams fans I haven't heard from in years. They are tied for first in their division (with a losing record?) and cocky as ever. We better bury the Lambs. My dad had an emergency appendectomy not too long ago. He said he was on a ladder and trimming trees two days after the operation. He claims Cassel better play this week. (Yes, yard work is essentially the same thing as playing in an NFL game to my dad) Can we get a Beans guest column this week?

I'll contact Beans about a Refried Rams Recap

FIRST, TO VOUCH FOR MY OWN OBJECTIVITY ON CROYLE: KC Oracle says: December 12, 2010 at 11:44 am Brodie will be awful. The Chiefs will be super conservative. Chargers 38 Chiefs 10. HAVING DONE THAT, I NOW SAY YOU CANNOT JUDGE A QB ON ONE BAD GAME. IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT CROYLE WILL EVER BE A GOOD QB OR WOULD AVOID INJURIES IF HE WAS GOOD, BUT SITTING HIM ON THE BENCH FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THEN PUTTING HIM IN AN ALMOST UNWINNABLE GAME IS NOT A FAIR TEST. RIGHT NOW, HE IS A MEDIOCRE BACK UP QB. BUT NOT MANY TEAMS HAVE GOOD BACK UP QB'S, OR KNOW WHETHR THEY HAVE GOOD ONES OR NOT. A QB GENERALLY NEEDS TO BE IN THE RIGHT SITUATION AND HAVE A PATIENT COACH TO DEVELOP INTO A GOOD ONE. SOME -- KURT WARNER, LENNIE DAWSON, TOM BRADY, JOHN UNITAS -- WERE LUCKY TO GET A CHANCE TO SHOW THEIR STUFF. BEFORE THEY GOT THE CHANCE, NO ONE WAS PREDICTING GREATNESS.

Easy on the caps lock there, KCO. unless all that is supposed to be read in a screaming voice? Croyle has started and played many games for us. Most of them have looked more or less like Sunday's.

KC Oracle: Sober up. Seriously. "I now say you cannot judge a QB on one bad game". Try 10 bad games. As in 0-10. Face it Croyle was a total bust. He sucked 3 years ago as bad as he sucked yesterday. Brodie: take the money, your super hot wife, and fade away into a bad memory.

Big Matt, What I saw yesterday was an overthrown pass, tempo problems, and general lack of comfort on the part of Croyle yesterday. Now I'll grant you, like everybody else on the team, Croyle's performance left me a bit dumfounded and wondering whether a quart of Nyquil had been slipped into the team's Gatorade supply. Aside from the things I've pointed out, what specifically did you see, or not see, in Croyle that makes you so pissed at him? You can't honestly sit there and tell me that you haven't seen Cassel play worse than Croyle did yesterday? As in pretty much all of last season. I mean right?

What I saw from Croyle yesterday was all I've ever seen from Croyle: an offense that simply doesn't move. Admittedly, Cassel had a few games last year that were as bad as this. But 2009 was a lost year and everyone knew it. The line, running game and passing weapons were all significantly worse. This offense had been playing well recently under Cassel. Croyle comes in and all of the sudden the linemen can't block and the receivers can't get open. Hmm. This game didn't change anything for me. Croyle has always been bad and he'll probably always be bad. I'm not pissed at him so much as baffled by the support he receives from fans and coaches.

I just can't believe how people are piling on Croyle - like this loss was all his fault and acting as if Cassel had played, the outcome would have been so much different, or somehow more tolerable. Seriously, what is the point of all this? Gloating in the loss by spitting a bunch "I told you so's?" in the faces of those of us who just wanted to see what Croyle could do if given a good running game and decent blocking? Newsflash, we still don't know the answer to that question!! Making Brodie your whipping boy is not going to take away the fact that our offensive line got turned into a bunch of playground sissies by the Chargers D or that our defensive front seven couldn't even buy a tackle against a marginal running game. Face it, Rivers did not need to do much of anything to win this game because he had 52 other guys taking care of business for him. By the same token, it is the height of absurdity to expect Croyle to come off the bench and carry 52 guys when the only thing he's carried for the last 2 years is a clipboard. Nay! Ignore the fact that we were still trying to win the game by handing the ball off to Thomas Jones late in the 3rd quarter. Yes! Let's gloss over the fact that every time Croyle went back to pass, he never even had a chance to set his feet because our offensive line obviously concluded they were close enough to the Mexican border to consider this game as more of a bullfight. I'll leave it to the readers to figure out which team was the rushing bull and which team reveled in the role of matador. I think I even saw Weigmann with a rose stem in his teeth at one point. Did Croyle play great? No. Suppose the whole team showed up, suppose we made some stops, suppose we had some semblance of a running game, suppose Croyle makes a few key completions, and suppose, in the biggest game of the season, we secure a division title with Croyle under center - what then? A QB controversy? In the grand scheme of things, I've concluded it's probably better it worked out this way. However, after reading this post and the general sentiment of the comments here I know for damn sure I can sum up the tone and factual basis that drives the "Croyle Sucks" bandwagon in 2 words - dishonest farce.

Strong words, Double D. I respect the hell out of your opinion, so I read your comment very carefully. Several times. I'm gonna start with two things: 1) Obviously the loss was a team effort. Virtually everyone played poorly. We all get that. Or at least I do. 2) Brodie Croyle has never, ever played well for us. With regards to #1, I guess you think I should've written about everyone but Croyle? Or everyone equally? Or....what? Come on man, you know the game. You pick a topic and run with it. Croyle was mine. I'm sorry you think he's for some reason untouchable, but he played very, very poorly and we got beaten badly. Whether or not you agree with my assessment of him, he's fair game. It is not below the belt to criticize a quarterback who throws for 40 yards. I agree with you (and gymrat, above) that the coaching staff didn't do Brodie any favors. Apparently they concluded he couldn't be trusted to throw downfield. This is now the second group of coaches that has concluded that. You can act like the jury is still out on Croyle if you want to, its no skin off my ass. I don't know why you want to wear blinders to consistently poor play, but thats your business. And many other people's, the difference being that most of them have admitted they were wrong to expect anything other than what happened (and what has always happened with Croyle under center). You've chosen excuses instead. Each his own I guess, but man, drag. I don't think it would kill you to admit Croyle deserves criticism. I definitely wouldn't freak out if you'd criticized Cassel after a bad loss, and he's actually played well and won games in a Chiefs uniform, 2 things Brodie has not done. I think if Cassel had played, the result would definitely have been different. Still a loss? yeah, probably. a 31-0 loss? No way. More tolerable? Definitely. What would have to happen for you to be convinced Croyle isn't good? How many chances does he get? Or, if its easier to answer this, why do you think Croyle is good? Are we to just assume every QB is good until they fail in an offense surrounded by Pro Bowlers? Give me a break, man.

To claim they shackled Brodie so there wouldnt be controversy is absolutely ridiculous. Whether you fear controversy or not, you cant tell me you honestly believe these coaches would potentially throw the chance at the playoffs down the drain to protect Cassel's feelings. That is just stupid. If Brodie WAS shackled, it was because they lacked confidence in him. They know him better than anyone else, and if they felt he couldnt get it done, then that is why they kept it conservative. This isnt the only game Weiss and Crennel have been "play-calling retarded." I wanted Weiss to hit the curb the first two games after Dexter's injury. At times, they just write up a "refuse to win" gameplan. I am, in NO way, a fan of Brodie. I dont like him even a little, but he doesnt get all the blame for yesterday. Uninspired coaching, lack of desire on both sides of the ball, and just getting beat by a better team all played into yesterdays loss. It was a reminder of where we are and where we want to be.

Wow. A reasonable comment. There's still hope.

Here is a take I had not thought about before and would love to hear what you guys think. Someone commented today that they put the shackles on Croyle because they didn't want a quarterback controversy. That could be true in my opinion because they didn't snag Brady Quinn or Jimmy Clausen. I just can't understand the play calling yesterday they obviously had no confidence in Croyle or did not want a controversy. I dont like little bitty Brodie. I think all of his passes sail on him. In my opinion he has no business in the nfl and nine games only finishing six of them and winning zero is proof enough for me. But if they have that little confidence in him why not Troy Smith this year or one of those guys mentioned before. We had a chance at Micheal Vick at the begining of the year for a fith round pick. We got to address the backup situation next year and how do we keep from hurting Cassels feelings apparantly.

Hey Danny, I don't buy that theory about not wanting a QB conspiracy. First, past experience shows Haley/Pioli don't care what the sports writers or fans are saying, their priority is to produce a winning team. Second, I don't think they would risk throwing away the season to avoid controversy. I think you're right about the play calling. I put the blame for this loss on everybody, coaches included. They did not have this team prepared mentally or have a good game plan. When all is said and done we came out flat and just got whooped.

One other thing, I'm hoping Pioli works his magic and gets another good QB in the later rounds like he did with Brady and Cassel. Then we would have a real prospect at QB and use our early draft picks for a pass rushing OLB and some good o-lineman.

Well said, Jackie. Fans always want to find a scapegoat for their anger and Croyle seems to be the #1 target this time around. Personally, I blame Haley and Weiss--piss poor game plan. To blame Croyle for what happened yesterday, or to write him off because of the performance is a knee jerk reaction and poor analysis. This was the worst performance by the o-line to date. Croyle had no time to throw and passing plays came almost exclusively in obvious passing situations. I'm not a huge Croyle fan and I'm not defending him--just stating the obvious facts. I would still take Croyle over most second string QBs in the league and over a few first stringers. Is Croyle better than Cassel? Of course not. Is he going to be QB1 in this league? Given his tendency to get injured, probably not. Ultimately, this was a total team loss. As the SD press corps explained today, the Chiefs were dominated in every phase of the game. No one deserves a pass on the blame and no one deserves all the blame. For his part, Croyle missed a few passes that he should have made (hmmm, who does that remind you of?) and made a few tough throws while being pressured that demonstrate his continued promise. All in all, this game tells me nothing new about Croyle, but makes me doubt that the Chiefs are ready to beat the most talented teams in this league.

All in all, this game tells me nothing new about Croyle either. I knew he was terrible long before Sunday.

damn i thought brodie could do it... Win the game, make a name for himself, we trade him and get a 2nd round draft pick.... deamn u wayne brady..

God forbid we keep Tyler Thigpen over this schlepp-rock. At least Tyler was moving the ball and putting points on the board. That's all I really need out of my backup QB. I don't need a laundry list of injuries and excuses.

Sure, Thigpen may have been a better quarterback. But you know what he wasn't? Part of Todd Haley's "core." That honor belongs to Croyle. Seriously though, I really wish we still had Thigpen. He'd have been a fun backup to have around.

You see Big Matt, give Tin Man some time. and He will show you that ever illusive "flash".It sounded like Mitch Holthus was surprised that Tin man was productive... I never thought Brodie would be all world, but I did think he had potential. That's what a lot of his draft prospect things would say too. The big knock on him as been his health. I can't beleive how bad our line played yesterday. I figured we could hopefully see what Croyle had to offer(if anything) but there were a lot of variables to sift through to see anything enlightening...So Brodie my dear, sit back on the bench, get your clip board and help cassel with his shoulder pads...thank you. We didn't play well at all yesterday. I hope we don't go into STL with that mentality(or that quarterback). We essentially gotta win out to take the division fellas...going to be tough.

Thats hilarious about Holthus. What did he say? I think you're right, we basically have to go 11-5 just to make the playoffs. What ever happened to a 10-6 wildcard? In my day......

Hey basically said things like "and....TYSON JACKSON!?!? was in on the tackle" in a real state of shock if you ask me.

Well I guess this was to be expected after the beat down we took yesterday. The problem I have with this is that it's just too reactionary. True, Brodie didn't look good, at all. But neither did the rest of the team. There was absolutely no fire in the Chiefs. When Oakland beat them last week the Raiders came out swinging and never let up. This week it was the Chargers that came out and just flat overwhelmed us. It was obvious they would not be denied. They Chiefs just rolled over and played dead. I don't think the play calling helped either. Brodie had no chance and neither would have Matt Cassel. I actually expected more games like this during the year. We're a young team on the rise so I thought it would be much more of a roller coaster ride than it has been. Young teams have a tendency to look like world beaters one week and pathetic the next. The Chiefs have been, surprisingly, fairly consistent. I'm not going to knock Brodie too much because I remember not too long ago Cassel being criticized for not being an NFL caliber QB. Once Matt got his rhythm down and Weiss figured out what plays he should call for him he got a lot better. Funny what a little game time experience can do. What we got on Sunday was a good old whooping by a good team that wanted revenge for the Monday night game. If we get back on track and take care of business we can still win the division.

Good analysis Calchief !

This article may seem overly reactionary, but I really did intend to write my "Brodie sucks" piece Friday, before the game even happened. I held off because I knew it would piss a lot of people off. I try to never do that intentionally, believe it or not. You make good points as usual, Calchiefsfan. One thing I take issue with: "Brodie had no chance and neither would have Matt Cassel." There is just no way to be sure about that. I doubt Cassel could've won, but who knows how different things would've been if we could've kept one of our first few drives going? The team could've been inspired by that and turned it on. It's impossible for us to predict the affect Cassel would've had. Hell, for all we know the reason the team came out flat is because they knew their QB couldn't get it done. I'm not asserting that, I'm just saying, the "we would've lost anyway" line always seems overly defeatist to me in light of all we don't know.

Well your right Big Matt, if Cassel had been able to get a few first downs that might have gotten everyone fired up and changed the whole complexion of the game. They just looked so flat, (offense and defense), from the start that it's just hard to imagine a victory no matter who's starting. It seemed the Chargers wanted more than we did.

You know Big Matt I've been thinking about your article all day, (must be a good one then). I think I've come full circle. Brodie should have played better. Though it's not all his fault, a leader is supposed to inspire, to lead his team, sometimes carry them. This team would have played better and fought harder if Croyle had stepped it up. He looked lost and confused, not exactly inspirational. I think we'll see a completely different team when Cassel gets back. Let's hope it's next week.

I think these guys will bounce back too. They certainly did the last time they got blown out. One bright side of Brodie's poor performance is that Cassel will look great if he comes back and rights the ship. That would really win this city over.

Thank god someone with some good sense!!! This article is dead on!! Croyle is garbage, i never understood why all you fools, were fascinated with his so called big arm!! Get rid of him! 0-10! Dont ever want to hear he's starting another game for my Chiefs!! Cassel all day baby!!!

I was one of the only ones here who said he would suck

I guess this means Cassel's our most valuable player. Not our best, certainly, but we can't afford to have him out. Sure we still would have lost if he had played, but there's no denying Brodie was horrific. I always liked having Croyle on the sidelines (but not playing quarterback). His long hair and earring and slow Southern drawl helpled keep our team loose (that's how I imagined it, anyway). I had already started thinking of nicknames in case he played well. I was leaning toward either Broheim or the Brodiezapha (Point Break was on TV the other day). Now I've climbed on the Tyler Falco bandwagon. Come on aboard - there's plenty of room. In fact it's just me and some hobo who I'm pretty sure is just hitching a ride.

Cassel's case for team MVP became much, much stronger yesterday. He's going to run away with it if Brodie starts another game. Plenty of room on that Palko bandwagon. I heard its missing a wheel. I remember a comment from you on BMCC where you referenced Croyle's "free-wheelin' attitude."

Cassel as team MVP? That's absurd. Cassel does not even qualify as a team leader. Cassel's shown significant improvement this season and that's all. There are much better candidates for team MVP.

hobo? listen, we can't be calling each other names if we want this wagon to pick up speed.

I was on the L Train in Chicago on my way to the Chiefs game there, the guy next to me asked about Croyle. He told me what to expect, "Croyle will have flashes of brilliance, but will be mostly hurt". Boy was he right.

the storyline of 'we lost because of brodie' stinks. -he made a perfect deep pass to dwayne bowe while getting hit (tipped away) -he made a perfect pass to copper while getting hit -good pass to bow on key 3rd down was dropped -great back shoulder pass to bowe on 3rd down called back on holding -right out of the gate he looked at multiple receivers, made a couple bad passes and the play calling changed. his primary receivers were clearly short-yardage routes even on third down. watch jay cutler or alex smith play football. they're a different kind of quarterback than matt cassel. i understand kansas city fans are more in line with the ultra conservative style of matt cassel. he's been effective. but there are other styles which the play calling has to adjust around. my point is don't put this all on brodie. that's too easy.

Sigh. Kyle, before the game you weren't a Brodie backer, and now that he goes 7 for 17 with 40 yards you're going out of your way to defend him? If possible, I'd really like to see you honestly assess your motivation for that. IF possible. I'm sorry you think this topic "stinks", but when your quarterback turns in one of the worst performances in league history he deserves criticism. Yes, there were a couple of plays that could've gone another way, just like there always is for every quarterback in every football game. But trying to act like he was anything other than terrible is totally ridiculous. He had an awful game, just like he always does. It might not all be on Brodie, but more of it is on Brodie than anyone else.