The Chiefs Fooled Me

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I'm doing my best to look at D-Bowe's performance in a vacuum (source: nflsoup.com)

Its been a lot of fun pretending we were a good team these last two months.  I’ve enjoyed that.  As it turns out, we’re not that good.  Not yet.  We’re not as bad as we played yesterday, but you can’t look at these last three games and say we’re a legit contender.

The Chiefs didn’t show up yesterday.  It was eerily similar to our matchup with  Denver last year, with the shoe unfortunately being on the other foot.  The team seemingly with everything to play for came out flat.  I didn’t expect that.  I’d allowed myself to be convinced the turnaround really had happened overnight.  That was naive of me.  Kind of like when I thought the movie Underworld was going to be good.  Are the Chiefs the Underworld of the NFL?

Honestly, I doubt we make the playoffs.  Losing divisional games is no way to lock things up.  But our schedule is soft, we’re still tied for the lead and we might get lucky.  We actually do play pretty well at home.  Even after back-to-back losses to bitter rivals this season is more compelling than the last three combined.

Ironically, Cassel’s line may have saved his season from a statistical standpoint.  I’ve heard a wide variety of reactions to his performance.  Trying to act like his prevent defense-inflated numbers are a sign of progress seems a little forced to me.  I’ve also heard some disgruntled fans calling for a benching.  I feel their pain, obviously.  But I can’t say that I’d bench Cassel at this point.  Do we really want to watch Croyle?  We’ve done that.  It was painful.  He ain’t the one.  But I’d say the case for drafting a quarterback has gotten quite a bit stronger.

Further ruminations from your boy Big Matt after the jump:

I’d still rather use our top pick on a receiver or lineman, myself.  Drafting a QB in the first round, as we all know, is a huge risk.  Drafting a quarterback and asking him to throw to Terry Copper and Lenny Pope is suicide.  I guess for me, nothing has really changed with respect to Cassel.  Not that good; still our best option.  Probably for next year, too.

On a more positive note, how ’bout my man D-Bowe?  I love how he picks this game to blow up.  I mean that is just hilarious.  You gotta love D-Bowe (unless you hate him).  I think he’s my favorite receiver in Chiefs history.  Second favorite?  Uh, Tamarick Vanover’s later years?  Seriously though, Mark Boerigter (am I kidding?).

It was nice to see Mike Vrabel still getting snaps in the second half.  His veteran leadership is most crucial at a time like that.  When you’re down 25 in the third quarter you’ve got to put your faith in intangibles.  He really held us together out there.  Give me eleven Mike Vrabel’s and I’ll give you……eleven guys the Chiefs would trade for and start.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but the Chiefs’ Vrabel obsession is Royals-esque.  He’s our Jason Kendall.  Old, no longer good, starts every game, coaches swear he’s invaluable.  I know a lot of you probably like Vrabel (no tackles yesterday), but this is a problem.  We have a ’96 Studebaker just sitting in the garage.  Meanwhile we’re driving around a ’50 Oldsmobile and swearing its the better car.

The Chiefs signed Studebaker to a contract that, while not eye-popping, isn’t something you’d give to a bench player.  We have to assume they believe in him.  Yet they seem content to just ride it out with Vrabel until he’s ready to retire.  Our pass rush is paying the price.  Studebaker has upside.  It shouldn’t take a total blowout for him to get in the game.

Some of you will no doubt protest that Vrabel is a leader, a mentor, a great guy in the locker room, and any number of other old-school cliches.  I’ll take your word for it.  But it seems to me he could be those things from the sideline.  Watching him try to rush the passer is painful.  Along with most of our other players who attempt to rush the passer.  I’d like to see a footrace between Vrabel, Dorsey, Tin Man, Sweet Ron and The Perv.  Who would win?  Is the answer to that question Ron Edwards?

Our defense has got to take the lion’s share of the blame for what happened yesterday, obviously.  They gave it away early.  And we can’t put this all on Ricky Price and Donnie Washington, either (although….yikes).  This collapse was a team effort.  Things wouldn’t have been much different with McGraw or Kendrick Lewis out there.

It seems our defense was a bit of a mirage.  Our pass rush is subpar and our secondary is overrated.  Dorsey is good against the run but still can’t rush the passer at all.  The prevailing attitude in Chiefs Nation seems to be that any sacks we get from Dorsey are a bonus.  This is a fallacy.  It’s been developed and clung to by people looking to make excuses for high draft picks.  Dorsey himself was quoted recently saying that on passing plays his job is to get the quarterback.  Not “occupy blockers.”  Nobody is saying the guy should get ten sacks (seriously, NO ONE IS SAYING THAT), but it would be nice to see him apply occasional pressure.  If he was as good as people say he would be able to do that.

Realistically, Flowers, DJ and Hali are our only defenders above league average.  We have several other guys I like, and some who will eventually, hopefully, develop and improve.  We can stop the run for the most part.  Clancy Pendergast is someone else’s problem now.  There are reasons to be optimistic about the future of the defense.  But it turns out the future isn’t now.

This game was tough to swallow.  We can be realistic about its implications without losing hope for this season.  These last seven games will all probably matter.  Meaningful December football is not something I expected to see this year.  Of course, I also never thought I’d hear announcers praising Thom Jones after a failed attempt from the one yard line.  Yesterday was full of fun surprises!

One final note: those of you who gave Paddy shit for picking the Broncos should have the stones to admit that he was right, and you were wrong.  I’m guessing most of you don’t have those stones.  Homers tend to replace stones with excuses and justification.  It’s too bad.  We all love the same team.  Occasionally thinking they’ll lose is not treason.  Liking Tim Tebow, not that’s treason.  God I hate that guy.

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Well said and well written. I'm afraid our expectations were set a bit too high due to our 3-0 start. I'm afraid it was just a mirage however I am thankful that the team is relevant again. Here's to a soft schedule and hopefully a strong finish to this season.

can't we all just get along?

Things get pretty weird around here monday after a loss.

@happiocupcakeo, I totally agree! I feel like everyone has overlooked that aspect of the game. We really missed those guys this Sunday, I really hope we have them back for the Arizona game! That kind of a boost in our secondary along with the return of DEX gives us REALLY good odds.

I get on this site every day for real. dedicated chief fan. When i hear u talking like a damn idiot, it gets to me. at first u were a proud fan and i had alot of respect for this site. You let me down. Stay strong dummy. I hate this write up, try again.. love whitefeather

Thanks for reading! sincerely, Damn fool

Look for of all. The guy that wrote this, at first i wanted to do alittle bit of cursing at u. then i thought about it, this is what i got. Ur a fake @ss chief fan. Get off the band wagon, go on and get on another. You dont deserve to be a chief fan. Your a damn fool.

There is a reply waiting for you above in this thread by the "guy that wrote this". For the sake of saving you the time to find it, I have copied and pasted it for you. "I realize I’ve pissed some people off, but the people who get angry with me are invariably the ones with the worst spelling, grammar, and internet etiquette. Food for thought." -Big Matt

Well, a shellacking really puts people in a foul mood, doesn't it? The Chiefs were overrated by many, who now see average/mediocrity settling in. But fortunately, we still have our friendly schedule. And like Matt says, we have a chance to see meaningful games in December, if we can somehow get a win over the Cardinals. With luck, we could even win 3 in a row (Cardinals, Seahawks and Broncos) to go to 8 and 4, then hold on while we beg for a win against the Chargers, Rams or Titans. Wouldn't it be great if we are 9 and 6, with the finale against the Raiders for a playoff spot (and a very short playoff run)? I doubt it, but how about a little optimism on a day when everyone seems in such a foul mood? BONUS: I heard Herm on 810 this morning. He is a good listen on the radio. Unfortunately, I missed his analysis of the Chiefs game. But I heard two points for your entertainment: (1) he loudly proclaimed he was doing a "Big Ten" game this week, explaining he was going to Syracuse to broadcast Syracuse versus UConn; and (2) he said that he used to coach the defensive backs in Hail Mary situations so that there was only one "jumper" with the rest blocking off the potential receivers who might catch a tipped ball -- on the one hand, Herm was a D Back for 12 years or so, a D Bank coach for years and a head coach for more, so he must know how the play is coached -- but I can't remeber ever seeing the play defended where there was only one defensive jumper. But then, when do D Backs ever seem to do what they are told - I remember Arenas this year after we miraculously beat the Chargers on the goal line stop to win the game - when asked what was said in the huddle, he said, "man, it's not a time for talkin, it's a time to make plays." DOUBLE BONUS HERM: HE PREDICTED A CHIEFS WIN THIS WEEK USING THE GROUND GAME AND THE 12TH MAN AT ARROWHEAD. HERM'S THE MAN.

wow everybody calm down! Sunday was a mirage on Denvers part. Take away a couple crazy touchdown catches that the denver receivers will NEVER make again and the freak fumble return. Add the couple easy interceptions that we dropped (which has been plaguing us all season) and its a completely different ball game that we win pretty easily. We are good. all of our loses are pretty much our fault. - Indy game - missed field goal and dropped TD by bowe = the ten points we lost by. - Texans game - our defense collapses and they score 21 in the 4th with the last td coming down to the wire. they wouldnt be able to that again if that game was played 100 more times. - Raiders game. our defense played great. they gave up only one touchdown to the 6th highest scoring team in the NFL. they win on a kick return. watching the return replays, it shouldnt even have happened. we gave the game away. the broncos game was the only game where we were actually got beat and even that was flukish due the above reasons.

What will happen if the Chiefs dominate Arizona this Sunday? I think there will be a lot of posts of the Chiefs getting back on track. It seems like if we win a couple of games we are locks for the playoffs. Then we lose a couple of games and there is no way in hell we are making the playoffs. I am trying to convince myself that I need to sit back and see how this season will end up. I think that it is going to be an exciting ending that is going to come down to the last game of the year.

That's kind of the way it goes though, you know? Opinions are bound to change whenever new data is introduced. At least they should. This season could very well come down to the wire for us, as you say. Meaningful football in December.

I'm sorry, but I have to defend Matt Cassel. As the rabid fans that many of us are, I think we get in this unrealistic mindset that there's a Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or *gasp* Phillip Rivers waiting around the corner, whether by free agency or in the draft. And those three QBs and the other above average QBs (Big Ben or Drew Brees)aren't going to be on the trading block anytime soon. Why? Because a franchise quarterback is rare. And this just in: WE WON'T DRAFT A QB IN THE FIRST 2-3 ROUNDS OF THE 2011 DRAFT EITHER. Won't happen. Cassel is the guy, like it or not, and quite frankly, he's good. Sure, he's not the franchise QB we're all drooling for. But good grief folks, 16 TDs versus 4 INTs after 9 games? That ratio BEATS your Peyton Manning and Drew Brees stats. Brady is the only one with better numbers, and not by much. If Cassel was out there playing like Elvis Grbac and we had a backup on the bench like Rich Gannon, I would be right there with you. But this isn't the case. You put Croyle in and he'll last you until mid-way through the 2nd quarter and then shatter his ACL. Thus, bringing back Matt Cassel. We need to be behind Cassel as the QB. We have FAR greater concerns on this team than Cassel.

I thought Underworld was actually above average.

I think the last 3 games are more a testament to how important Dexter McCluster, Kendrick Lewis, and Jon McGraw are than they are an indication that the Chiefs are pretenders.

Didn't have me fooled on the fast 3-0 start. Look, we have the easiest schedule this year and we are only 5-4. Can anyone look at the remaining 7 games and circle a guaranteed win. I think that we go 3-4 from here and end up at 8-8. Not bad considering that we only won 4 games last year. Reality is sitting in right now and the Chiefs have shown just how much further they need to improve to be a playoff team. Even at 3-0 we all knew that if we made the playoffs it would be because of how bad everyone else was in the AFC West, not because of how good the Chiefs are.

At this point I'll say 4-3 the rest of the way (with wins at home vs Arz, Den, and Oak and one road win vs either Sea or StL). That would put us at 9-7.

+1 to KCF. I basically agree with all of that. 8-8, maybe 9-7. I'm cool with that. I predicted 7-9 before the season, but allowed myself to get carried away for a while there. Dreams of a first round bye were dancing in my head. These last three weeks have brought me back down to earth.

As the official driver of the AA Matt Cassel Bandwagon, I'd like to address a couple things regarding both Matt and Patrick's (very well written) posts. Even from my seat here on the bandwagon I could see that Cassel DID contribute to the Chiefs getting down 35-0. Yes, only the fumble return for the TD was his direct doing, but when an opposing offense comes out and shoves the ball down your defense's throat the offense needs to come out and move the ball, pick up first downs, give the D time to regroup, and answer with points of their own if you want to stay in the game. Cassel, as the leader of the offense did not do that to start the game. He struggled to convert third downs again (not that the playcalling or run game helped him any). He does deserve some, far from all, but some of the blame, as do most players and coaches on the team. That having been said I was proud of how he fought back. Yes, his stats were inflated because of the "don't give up the long ball" defense that Denver was playing. However, not all QBs would of put up numbers like Cassel did yesterday. Arizona and Carolina have been outscored by more points then anyone else in the league (even Buffalo) and their QBs still stink on ice, so Cassel shouldn't get zero credit for what he did either. My position on him remains unchanged. Cassel is not a great or terrible NFL QB. He has his moments but also deserves some criticism at times. I don't feel like Matt or Patrick were out of line in their takes even if mine might be slightly different (not that they were looking for my approval).

Fair and honest comment Lyle. Thank you. I'll actually have an interesting article on Cassel coming up later this week. Stay tuned.

Patrick, I just don't know what to make of the AFC West this year. Our teams at 5-4 with SD a game behind at 4-5, and now Denver is 3-6. These last seven weeks are going to be interesting. My Raiders are going to have to REALLY step up. Pittsburgh is gonna be pissed next week, Miami, Jags, Colts all won. 0nly 3 home games for us left and finishing on the road in your house. WHOOOEEEE!!!! It's going to be a fun ride. See you in January. Let's just hope we can keep San Diego out. Personally... Philip Rivers is scary.

How goes it Raiderhays! Yeah man it is going to be tough for anyone to hold off the Chargers. Don't forget they'll be getting Jackson back too.

I actually sort of was looking for your approval. I figure if I get the blessing of the driver of the Cassel bandwagon I can't possibly be the hater some of these angry commenters think I am. Honestly, I didn't even feel like I said anything remotely controversial about Cassel today. It's weird how defensive some of these people get if you even hint at a Cassel criticism. I mean, I specifically stated that I think he should be the starter this year AND next! Thanks for the comment, Lyle. I was beginning to think I was losing my mind.

The following quote is an example of what I think is harsh criticism of Cassel "Trying to act like his prevent defense-inflated numbers are a sign of progress seems a little forced to me. I’ve also heard some disgruntled fans calling for a benching. I feel their pain, obviously. But I can’t say that I’d bench Cassel at this point. Do we really want to watch Croyle? We’ve done that. It was painful. He ain’t the one. But I’d say the case for drafting a quarterback has gotten quite a bit stronger. Your stance is negative even when we are winning and it rubs people the wrong way. Sure, call me a homer but is that really that bad of a faux pas? I understand not taking someone's opinion seriously because they are biased, but isn't the point of having teams to root for them? Do you really think being impartial about sports is some sort of desirable quality?

That was harsh criticism? I thought I was staying right in the middle of the road. I've heard from several people who wanted him benched. I don't want him benched. I also heard from several people saying he put up good numbers. I think those numbers were inflated by the situation. It's not like I'm calling for the guy's job here, man. I've never once done that. I got roped into an argument I didn't even know was going on. I was outside walking dogs all day! We all carry our own biases. I try to admit to mine (Bowe). Of course I root for the Chiefs. Everyone here does, and the strength of anyone else's fandom is not for me (nor you) to judge. There is often a difference between what I think will happen and what I want to happen. Or, to put it another way, what I actually believe, and what I want to believe. We're covering the Chiefs on this website, the good as well as the bad. Surely you can admit that there is some of both? Most of the writers here are very positive, including Paddy. I also say a great many positive things, although they are conveniently overlooked by my detractors. Most of whom struggle to punctutate sentences and spell words correctly.

Man oh man...everyone needs to grab a beer, joint, a tug, or whatever your vice is and chill out...I don't ever remember one person saying we were guarnteed the playoffs and majority said we would be .500. We are on our way everyone should be happy about the improvement this year. So everybody should sit back and enjoy the rest of the ride as we figure out how good this team really is... Big Matt are you throwing in the towel on the playoffs? What will our record be from here on out? You seem to know this team is no good so I'd like to hear some predictions. I just called Patrick a tool and anyone who blogs about the Chiefs is, including me. Patrick is just a mega tool because he gloats in a Chiefs lost and runs an entire website plus writers that are obsessed with Nick Wrights opinions which suck. At the beginning of the season this was easily my go to site for Chiefs information and now its a distant second.

calling someone a "tool" is not a take

I'm just going to go ahead and let your comment speak for me.

Come on now Cheeeeese, I never said I was throwing in the towel. In fact, what I said was: "This game was tough to swallow. We can be realistic about its implications without losing hope for this season. These last seven games will all probably matter. Meaningful December football is not something I expected to see this year." I specifically said I wasn't losing hope!

How many of you fans, if I told you before the season we would have been 5-2 going into the raiders game or even 5-3 going into the denver game or for arguments sake told you we would have possibly gone 8-8 on the season. I would have probably been laughed out of the room. Its to bad the successes the team have made make some people think the losing latley is the end of the world. We are fortunate to have the season that were having with the rookies stepping up big. We have had afew injuries lately that have hurt us. WE ARE A YOUNG TEAM The future is bright for our franchise

if Paddy didn't catch it on another blog - I did let hem know he was right. I have never in my life felt so confident in the Chiefs going into a game than I did Sunday. I think the Chiefs just showed me what they showed you. We have a good young team that can contend for the playoffs, but probably not yet. It will be fun to see some meaningful December football, and even more exciting to see how the Chiefs respond to the loses to Denver and Oakland when they come to Arrowhead.

Yes indeed, Robb, revenge will be sweet....hopefully. I too was really confident going into Sunday. The Oakland game scared me, but not Denver. Just goes to show how little we really know a lot of the time. This Arizona game is now a total question mark to me. I have no idea what will happen.

Well, lots of reactions, but I am not ready to say the sky is falling. We looked horrible. So bad that after the 1st series on defense and offense I told the other folk in the room we were going to get blown out in the game. You could just tell we did not have the game plan we needed. I lay the loss not on Cassel, not on the defense, it was on the entire coaching staff. We obviously were not prepared for the Bronco's and that is their job. Still, it was a game. A very important one, but that's over with. We are neither better nor worse as a team than we were before that game. We have some improved talent, but need more. The difference was this time we just got outsmarted and then outplayed. Maybe we won't recover and go into a full tailspin. I doubt it. I think we will do what I thought. Show real and meaningful progress this year over last year, but not we are not the frog the Princess kissed. In real life it takes time to transform. We will end up pretty darn good this year all things taken into account. In the off season, I think it is realistic to believe we add more talent and make some strides forward. Depending on how that goes, we could be a more solid team next year. I'll be yelling just as hard for us next week (yea I admit it I yell watching our games even on TV). Keep it in perspective guys, I know it was horrible Sunday, but I'll bet you that will be an anomally. I expect us to be competitive in the rest of our games and to win at least as many as we lose. If we win the division, that is gravy, and over-achieving based on the roster. Keep your chin up guys, we will still kick some butt this year!

The NFL is a bunch of ups and downs for every team this year. No undefeated teams.. look at how the Pats got killed by CLEVELAND only to bounce back and make the Steelers look stupid. I think this team is far from throwing in the towel. Haley was blown out last year and didn't get that pissed after the game. The attitude starts from the top and I assure you they are planning how to kick the Donkey's A$$ in Arrowhead. They've got a chip on their shoulder now

To respond to TIDL: I wasn't trying to say it is Cassel's fault for this loss. I was just stating that he wasn't as good as his stats may look. All of the Chiefs homers blast any fan who criticizes the team after a win, so we should at least get to air our criticisms after a loss. There were so many things wrong in this game that ultimately the blame goes on the coaches. Haley got out-coached by one of the worst coaches in the league. That is disappointing.

I agreed with Patrick's pick. However, I am still so disappointed and let down by this team. Although we had no pass rush, I can't stop thinking about our secondary! They looked like they had no idea what they were doing! I personally do blame our secondary for our loss, and feel that we could have at least made a game out of it if it wasn't for Price and Washington. THEY NEED TO BE RELEASED NOW.

WOW, they are just getting started and you want to release them now huh? I bet you think you could suit up and play better.

I don't think Washington should be released. If we didn't have injuries, Price would still be on the practice squad. Our perceived preseason secondary depth is being exposed due to injury.

Those guys both played really badly, but I don't think I'd release either of them. I actually pretty much agree with my foil Donkeyland here. Price really shouldn't have been forced into playing that many snaps and Washington is only in his second year after looking like a possible steal at the time. I don't want to see either on the field right now, but I don't mind having them on the roster for this season.

Pass rush and a dominate NT fixes all our problems on D. I can catch a pass in front of Carr or Flowers with 5-6 second to run around.

Hmmmmm? Sigh, ugh! I hate football.

I'm with you Big Matt. The Chiefs fooled me into believing they were more than what they really are - a subaverage team still in the process of rebuilding. I don't see how we make the playoffs considering we have no depth and the fact that much of regular rotation has never played more than 10 or 11 games in a season (I'm talking about our rooks). After starting out 5-2, I expected us to come away with at least one road win against a division rival - now I have to seriously question whether we will even be able to manage more than one home win against a division rival. The formula for beating the Chiefs has become painfully obvious. Stack the box on defense and force Cassel to beat you. On offense, exploit the poor coverage skills of the Chiefs LBs and Safeties and that will open up the run.

I would say we are average, not sub average. The Chiefs will likely finish no worse than .500 this season.

After only winning 10 games in the last three years i'll take the chiefs finishing .500 this year. Still love this team.

The biggest problem yesterday was poor coaching. If the coaches were not able to get the players attention after the Raiders loss, they probably never will - at least not until we have the kind of personnel and toughness it takes to get it done. The Chiefs might win some more games this season because of their schedule, but that doesn't mean were not below average, it just means we have a favorable schedule. Record is not always the best barometer for judging how good a team is. Denver started the season strong last year and by the end of the season they were a below average team. An average team typically has the talent and depth to compete in the post-season if they're lucky enough to catch and capitalize on a few breaks along the way. We're not that team. Not even close. I will say this though Patrick. You were much more on target in predicting the outcome of this game than I was. I really did not see this one coming, especially considering the way we gave it away to Oakland the week before. I thought we just beat ourselves in that game and needed to tweak a few things to make sure it didn't happen again. We had no answer on either side of the ball for what the Broncos brought. Haley can say "but we had a really great week of practice" all he wants but just like when he said that before and after every loss last season, I'm just not up for buying that BS cop out line from him.

Jones was a non factor in yesterdays game, why are you trashing him again? After 2 months of "give the ball to JC" well he got more carries than Jones yesterday and didn't fare that well. Yes JC is more talented and more explosive than Jones, but JC isn't going to dominate in every game either.