Arrowhead Adventures! Former Player Regrets?

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We have come a long way Addicts. In my opinion its way to early to celebrate, but enjoying the moment is a requirement for all Chiefs fans!

This morning’s news that the Chiefs remain the only undefeated team in the NFL made me think.

Jared Allen. Tony Gonzalez. Larry Johnson.  Three players that in their prime (save Johnson) were the best in the league. Traded primarily at the players request, or because of attitude and behavior problems. No doubt they felt they would have better futures with other teams as the Chiefs were in the middle of a historical losing streak.

But what about now?

The Chiefs sit at the top with the best win loss ratio in the NFL!  Sounds like no big deal at 3-0, except for the fact that no other team was able to do it.

The Vikings sit at 1-2, while Atlanta sits at 3-1. The last I heard, Larry Johnson jerseys were being given away to underprivledged kids in underdeveloped countries, much like those t-shirts that proclaim the losing Superbowl team actually won. And Larry sits at home waiting for the phone to ring, like Arafat, a man without a country.

So what do you think Addicts? A post trade evaluation, I believe is in order. In my heart I would love to have Jared and Tony back to enjoy the success, however fleeting it might be.

But what about the players themselves? Do you think they are having any regrets?

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say what you will but i dont think anyone can possibly complain about the deadication and effort that Tony G. showed over the years he spent as a Chief. Did he jump ship for a chance at scoring some post season gold in Atlanta? Absolutly and i dont blame him a bit. He gave us the lions share of an amazing career, always played hard, and put up the kind of career stats that will secure him a well deserved spot in Canton.

yeah Im with you on that Mooney. Well said!

no problem Mike, good to see you posting.

yes i have heard of it just hard to type it all out with only bout a min to n type why in my college classes sorry

Yes Ill be glad to get some closure on the TG thing . I still have some resentment about his departure.

I was watching some interview with TG last week, and they asked him point blank: "Will you retire as a Chief?" He immediately said "Yes. Kansas City is where I started, they drafted me and gave me my start." I think when he is ready to pull the pin, he will sign back up with the Chiefs, and retire right where he belongs. I just hope I can get tickets for the game that honors him for all he has done for KC and the NFL. By the way, mikemccoy2, ever heard about this nifty thing called punctuation?

ceremoniously only cuase for a long time he was are light in the darkness of bad times for us all and after Derrik Thomas passed away tony was there to pick up the and show us that even tho DT is gone there is still heart and blood in the team thro tony we had allot to beleave in

To play or ceremoniously Mike?

I love tony but i say ceremoniously only. The man wanted to leave for what he thought was going to be a better team. Now at the time I wished him well and kept my mouth shut but dont try comming back now that we are looking better. What happens if we tank agin .

i agree with you to nick but i would not be surprised if T.G comes back to KC to retire as a chief i think he may want that

Excellent analysis Nick, I could not agree more. Excellent points about Carl and Herm hanging on. I think there is no doubt KC would be the most FUN team to be on right now. I cant imagine the excitement in the locker room and during practices.

If I'm not mistaken we ended up with Jamal Charles and Brandon Albert via the Jared Allen trade so that was a big win for us. So Tony G is hands down the biggest regret in my opinion although the new Tony in town has us feeling a little better.

It's hard to say if we would want them back. I mean, LJ is obvious--hit the bricks, kid. As far as Jared Allen or Tony Gonzalez...it's a mixed bag. Part of Jared Allen's success up in Minnesota is the Williams Wall. Additionally, Jared is a prototypical 4-3 end, and probably wouldn't translate too well to a 3-4 unless he did like Tamba Hali and went to outside linebacker. Although that would be a pretty fearsome combo for blitzing...switch either Vrabel or Hali to MLB, put the other on the left side OLB, put Allen on the right side, and you would have Allen, DJ, Vrabel, and Hali in some combo. As far as Tony Gonzalez, I love the man but he's probably only got a year or two left in him before he starts declining big-time. We got Javier Arenas out of the trade, which will bode well for nickel/dime defensive situations and our return game. And we were able to pick up Tony Moeaki, who would've been a first or second rounder if there weren't the injury concerns. Then, of course, there's another issue...if we had kept Allen and Gonzalez, we might have done well enough to save Carl Peterson and Herm Edward's jobs, meaning we would still be mired in barely passable mediocrity. Now that they are out, we have a great front-office staff and excellent GM, and up-and-coming young head coach, and one of the best coaching staffs in the league, bar none. Would I like to have our current and future success with Tony and Jared still wearing the red and gold? Of course. But, all things being what they are, we might not have gotten here if one or both of them were still sporting the arrowhead.

say what you will but i dont think anyone can possibly complain about the deadication and effort that Tony G. showed over the years he spent as a Chief. Did he jump ship for a chance at scoring some post season gold in Atlanta? Absolutly and i dont blame him a bit. He gave us the lions share of an amazing career, always played hard, and put up the kind of career stats that will secure him a well deserved spot in Canton.

yeah Im with you on that Mooney. Well said!

no problem Mike, good to see you posting.

yes i have heard of it just hard to type it all out with only bout a min to n type why in my college classes sorry

Yes Ill be glad to get some closure on the TG thing . I still have some resentment about his departure.

I was watching some interview with TG last week, and they asked him point blank: "Will you retire as a Chief?" He immediately said "Yes. Kansas City is where I started, they drafted me and gave me my start."
I think when he is ready to pull the pin, he will sign back up with the Chiefs, and retire right where he belongs.
I just hope I can get tickets for the game that honors him for all he has done for KC and the NFL.
By the way, mikemccoy2, ever heard about this nifty thing called punctuation?

ceremoniously only cuase for a long time he was are light in the darkness of bad times for us all and after Derrik Thomas passed away tony was there to pick up the and show us that even tho DT is gone there is still heart and blood in the team thro tony we had allot to beleave in

To play or ceremoniously Mike?

I love tony but i say ceremoniously only. The man wanted to leave for what he thought was going to be a better team. Now at the time I wished him well and kept my mouth shut but dont try comming back now that we are looking better. What happens if we tank agin .

i agree with you to nick but i would not be surprised if T.G comes back to KC to retire as a chief i think he may want that

Excellent analysis Nick, I could not agree more. Excellent points about Carl and Herm hanging on. I think there is no doubt KC would be the most FUN team to be on right now. I cant imagine the excitement in the locker room and during practices.

If I'm not mistaken we ended up with Jamal Charles and Brandon Albert via the Jared Allen trade so that was a big win for us. So Tony G is hands down the biggest regret in my opinion although the new Tony in town has us feeling a little better.

It's hard to say if we would want them back. I mean, LJ is obvious--hit the bricks, kid. As far as Jared Allen or Tony Gonzalez...it's a mixed bag.

Part of Jared Allen's success up in Minnesota is the Williams Wall. Additionally, Jared is a prototypical 4-3 end, and probably wouldn't translate too well to a 3-4 unless he did like Tamba Hali and went to outside linebacker. Although that would be a pretty fearsome combo for blitzing...switch either Vrabel or Hali to MLB, put the other on the left side OLB, put Allen on the right side, and you would have Allen, DJ, Vrabel, and Hali in some combo.

As far as Tony Gonzalez, I love the man but he's probably only got a year or two left in him before he starts declining big-time. We got Javier Arenas out of the trade, which will bode well for nickel/dime defensive situations and our return game. And we were able to pick up Tony Moeaki, who would've been a first or second rounder if there weren't the injury concerns.

Then, of course, there's another issue...if we had kept Allen and Gonzalez, we might have done well enough to save Carl Peterson and Herm Edward's jobs, meaning we would still be mired in barely passable mediocrity. Now that they are out, we have a great front-office staff and excellent GM, and up-and-coming young head coach, and one of the best coaching staffs in the league, bar none.

Would I like to have our current and future success with Tony and Jared still wearing the red and gold? Of course. But, all things being what they are, we might not have gotten here if one or both of them were still sporting the arrowhead.