The Arrowhead Addict Roster Familiarity Project

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November 30, 2008: DT #72 Glenn Dorsey of the Kansas City Chiefs in action vs. the Oakland Raiders at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum in Oakland, California. The Chiefs beat the Raiders 20-13 Photo via Newscom

A blocker's worst nightmare (source: yardbarker.com)


Roughly two years ago, Herm Edwards said something that changed the way I watch football.  And no, I’m not talking about one of his quasi-religious pearls of wisdom ( e.g. “I live by fate, not sight.”). It was one of his many blame-shifting lies that affected this change.  The subject was Glenn Dorsey, and the question was whether or not he was struggling as a rookie.  Herm’s response was that Dorsey was “our most unselfish lineman” and that he was “beating up the guard and taking on the double-team.”

Chiefs Nation ran with it, any criticism of Dorsey eliciting a quick “he’s getting double-teamed; debate over.”  Before long public opinion held that not only was Dorsey not struggling, he was actually thriving.  Double-teams, half-tackles, games played, Oh my!  There was even a coverage sack in there.  His stats (tackles only, not forced fumbles or sacks) were compared against past defensive linemen in a dishonest attempt to paint a pretty picture.  “Dorsey has more tackles (again, sacks don’t count) than Albert Haynesworth did his rookie year!  He must be awesome!  Somebody call Canton and tell them to get that bust ready.”

The problem is, it was a fantasy.  I know, because when Herm made his absurd statements, I made a decision.  I would watch Dorsey every play of every game for the rest of the year, and I would make note of any double-teams drawn.  The results were ugly.  Not only was Dorsey not drawing any doubles, he was routinely stood up by the opposing guard.  He had no pass-rush moves other than the ‘stand ‘n shove’.   Lateral movement was a strength, but it was buried under a slew of weaknesses.  Dorsey had a tough first year.  I saw every single play.

This isn’t meant to be an anti-Dorsey rant.  I actually thought he improved slightly last year.  If he keeps improving, he could end up a pretty solid player.  My point is, when people heralded his double-team drawing and pocket-pushing, I knew they hadn’t actually been watching him.  Because I had, and no one who had seen what I saw would have thought he had a good year.  He didn’t.  He was an out-of-shape, raw rookie and it showed.  I earned that knowledge by focusing on him every play, sometimes to the detriment of my knowledge of other players.  For instance, I hardly ever got to watch the tomfoolery of Tank Tyler*.  A heavy price to pay.

*Tank was cut by Carolina the other day. Potential!  Looks like he’s well on his way to joining his Chiefs d-tackle draft pick forefathers in the unemployment line.  Hopefully they won’t haze him for being the new guy.  I hear Eddie Freeman is quite the prankster.

In all seriousness, I’m glad Pioli was able to get a fifth round pick for Tank.  I believe we used that on Cameron Sheffield?  Circle of life.

I didn’t focus as much on Glenngarry Glenn Dorsey in 2009.  I wanted to start fresh, and there was another LSU block eater to watch.  This season I’ll be returning to Dorsey country.  You dance with the girl who brought ya, even if that girl is a 300-pound reminder of Herm Edwards.  This is an important season for Dorsey.  The excuses have run out, and he needs to perform.  I want to be able to judge the results for myself, so I’m going to be glued to Dorsey-vision again this year.

The problem is that while I’m earning my masters in Dorseynomics other players will inevitably elude my creepy, dead-eyed stare.  I live in constant fear of the day someone asks me how Sweet Ron Edwards is doing and I don’t have an answer (I….I…..I don’t know how Ron Edwards is playing.)    This is where you Addicts come in.

What I’m proposing is a project wherein many of us become specialists in certain players.  AA commenter and Big Matt colleague Sesame Cake has already volunteered to become our resident Kendrick Lewis expert.  I know I’ve heard Ehud say he wants to keep a close eye on Brandon Carr.  I’d like to get several of you on Tyson Jackson and at least one other guy on Dorsey to keep me honest.

The goal here is to have one of our best Addicts following everyone in the Chiefs’ playing rotation, particularly the offensive and defensive lines.  As fans, we’re trained to watch the ball, and that’s what almost everyone does.  Given that the camera follows the ball, its only natural our eyes will as well.  The result is that we all become intimately familiar with the quarterbacks and running backs, but a lot of the nitty-gritty goes unnoticed.  I want us to notice that nitty-gritty.  In fact, I want us all up in its business.  If I’m interested in how Ryan Lilja pass-blocked against Denver, I want to be able to hear it from someone I trust.  Someone who has actually watched Ryan Lilja game in, game out.  In other words, I want to break our reliance on team-generated spin.  I want my Chiefs knowledge to be as pure and untainted as possible.  Like I said, I can’t do this alone.  I’m going to need your help.

If you’d like to participate in the Arrowhead Addict Roster Familiarity Project, drop a comment letting me know which player you’re going to follow (literally or figuratively).  From that point on, you’ll be my source for that player.  I will consult you when I’m curious, and I will take your analysis to heart.  All I ask is that you try to be as unbiased as possible.  I realize that isn’t easy, but its necessary for a project like this.

Like I said, I’m on Dorsey.  And if my boy Magee ever manages to see the field, I’ll be keeping a sharp eye on him as well.  I’ll need help with everyone else.  I want you Addicts all over these guys.  Research them, watch them play, write them letters, go through their trash.  Don’t be afraid of a little light stalking.

NFL teams expect their fans to swallow any nonsense they’re fed without question.  That is unacceptable to me.  I want knowledge, not fairy tales.  I intend to learn as much as I can about these Chiefs.  Join me in my quest…..just don’t tell Scott Pioli.  A fan with information is obviously a threat to our Super Bowl chances, and I’d rather not be carried off in the middle of the night.

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This is a great idea that we've been talking about for a long time. I'm gonna go w/ the oracle and keep an eye on the Tin Man. This is not an easy task for anyone to follow one guy, but sacrifices must be made. It's especially difficult to watch the secondary and the receivers. Very rarely do we get to see whats going on back there before the ball is delivered. I can't believe we can't see more of the "QB View" that NBC offers on their Sunday Night games (via the web). It's really the best / only way to watch all of the action. I'll even attempt to follow the right tackle position on the o-line. We might as well follow one on each side of the ball. So look out B Rich or O'Cally, you've got a Wyld eye on you.

For the first game, I'll focus on the general offensive line play with a focus on the tackles. Big Matt knows I'm good for it. Love the website.

I would love to get in on this but living in California I will only see 5 games at the most.

Assuming we can't get access to the chiefs confidential grades, this is a good idea. I just can't keep watching linemen for more than about two plays. Although I did look at Jared Allen for a pretty long time in a game last year and was suprised at how ineffective he was against the run. I also watched Turk (Tank?) the guy who went to Detroit for about 6 or 8 plays, and he was doing pretty well.

I actually think Turk can play. Wouldn't be surprised if he carves out a nice, Jimmy Wilkerson style career. Jared Allen doesn't muscle up to the run, but he does bring in the occasional tackle for loss, which is the equivalent of a sack.

I'll take Cassell. In college, I used to play quarterback on a seven player touch football intramural team. I assume every team with their huge coaching staff does this type of individual analysis on film every week. Too bad it seldom leaks out. The NFL is very good at maintaining confidential information.

Nice try KCO, but due to your obvious attempt to bait me above regarding Herm, I'm gonna go ahead and put you on Tin Man watch. That old Steelers game bit. I mean give me a break.

Tin Man watch? I'll miss all the action. ps. That Steeler game was the high water mark of Herm's coaching career. With a field goal kicker, he would have been a champ. Plus, he could use more words to say less than anyone in the history of the NFL. Doesn't that count for something?

Love the concept. Wish I could help but living in Ga. all I can do is listen to the chiefs over the computer for the 1010 fox feed. Wish somneone would have watched this new NT we got from G Bay in the game the other night or somebody talk to Casey Wiegman about him. Love to know more. You need to have somebody watch the NT position. Although they will have to be a very football savy fan to grade a NT out. But just whoever is in grade.

I can take Carr. Let's hope the cameramen help me keep an eye on him.

Uh, you know Louis Lewis is going to get watched. Boy I hope he's good.

I've been a Chiefs fan for a while but I'm new to Arrowheadaddict.com. While I don't have the attention span to watch a single player all year, I am really looking forward to updates on this article. What if you set up some kind of chart that has all the players being watched with a sentence or two describing how they did each week?

I'll definitely be updating this regularly, thats for sure. It could turn out to be a really informative project. The current plan is to have all my regular player-watchers email their results every sunday or monday and then I'll post the most interesting stuff mid-week.

I'd be willing to keep an eye on the nose tackles, love this idea.

Nice. So you're our Ron Edwards guy (do we even have any other nose tackles?). When we discover who the second string is, you can handle him as well since only one will be in the game at a time. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Sweet Ron can actually be kind of fun to watch. I definitely saw him make more dynamic plays than Dorsey or Tin Man last year. My worry is that on a play-by-play basis he isn't very good. Will be interested to get your take on that. prime question: does Ron Edwards ever draw double-teams?

We picked Toribio up off waivers from Green Bay so thats another NT.

I will watch Tyler Palko with the same creepy dead eye stare!!! I hear he is selling insurance. I will let you know how well he does. He better not take "no" for an answer! Seriously, I will take Branden Albert.

All right Jeremy, you're on Albert. I'm guessing we'll get someone else on him too. He's one of our most important players. We've all focused on his pass-blocking so far, but I have absolutely no idea what kind off run-blocker he is. Would be very interested to know that. Our goal should be to get Palko to hire you as his personal attorney.

Fantastic idea Matt. Step up Addicts and be an expert on one player for the season.

And if you want to watch someone constantly being out of position and getting owned by blockers, pick Corey Mays.

God help the poor bastard who volunteers to watch Mays.

lmfao. Im glad I got Johnson. Skip that mays mess.

Ill be watching studebaker if you need anything

OK Jeff, you're on Studebaker. I'd love to know all you can tell me about his pass-rush skills. Favored moves, tenacity, frequency of pancakes, any info you can provide I'm going to want. We really need him to be a good pass rusher.

You are right on. This is exactly the kind of scrutiny our team needs, away from the PR spin-meisters and bad decision-justifiers. A lot of us did see the same, disappointing Dorsey you saw and we intrinsically knew Edwards was selling snake oil. But none of us saw it at the depth you discuss. It's amazing how bad Edwards really was at all levels and we all had kind of a sick, sinking feeling that maybe there were others out there who might've been better candidates for the head coach job ... but, I will say this very delicately ... many of those others weren't "politically correct" in the eyes of the gang running the front office at the time. Looking forward to the extreme, focused coverage on our starters and units. Let's see if anyone in the MSM picks up on it and gives any credence to it.

"sick, sinking feeling" I think that prettty much describes my Chiefs fandom in 2007 and 2008. Things seemed hopeless. And the constant bullshit slung by Herm, Carl, Gretz, and all the rest of their apologists was maddening. This project is designed to be the antithesis of front office spin, which is by far my least favorite aspect of the NFL. Thanks for the dap, Johan. Let me know if you want to pick a player.

You guys misunderstood Herm. He is not a literalist and you can't listen to him word for word like you might George Bush or Barack Obama. He's thematic. Message and inpiration. He did not mean that Dorsey literally was getting double teamed all the time. Example of Herm's thematic speech: YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. Plus, he came within a botched field goal of beating the Steelers when they were 15 and 1 in the divisional championship game.

Ill take a linebacker maybe stude or Johnson. whichever one you think.

All right A-Wolf, you're on DJ. Even though he's been with us a long time now, I think its important for us to have someone on him. The knock on DJ is that he makes big plays, but often misses tackles or is caught out of position. I'm not sure I believe that. It sounds to me like justificatiuon for Todd Haley's bizarre benching of Johnson in 2009. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to determine whether or not DJ actually makes the mistakes attributed to him. we all know he can make the occasional big play. What we need to know is what he's doing the rest of the time. This is an important one. Good luck.

Ill take it. I think I can handle it. Im really looking forward to it.

This is a great idea that we've been talking about for a long time. I'm gonna go w/ the oracle and keep an eye on the Tin Man. This is not an easy task for anyone to follow one guy, but sacrifices must be made.

It's especially difficult to watch the secondary and the receivers. Very rarely do we get to see whats going on back there before the ball is delivered. I can't believe we can't see more of the "QB View" that NBC offers on their Sunday Night games (via the web). It's really the best / only way to watch all of the action.

I'll even attempt to follow the right tackle position on the o-line. We might as well follow one on each side of the ball. So look out B Rich or O'Cally, you've got a Wyld eye on you.

For the first game, I'll focus on the general offensive line play with a focus on the tackles. Big Matt knows I'm good for it.

Love the website.

I would love to get in on this but living in California I will only see 5 games at the most.

Assuming we can't get access to the chiefs confidential grades, this is a good idea. I just can't keep watching linemen for more than about two plays. Although I did look at Jared Allen for a pretty long time in a game last year and was suprised at how ineffective he was against the run. I also watched Turk (Tank?) the guy who went to Detroit for about 6 or 8 plays, and he was doing pretty well.

I actually think Turk can play. Wouldn't be surprised if he carves out a nice, Jimmy Wilkerson style career.

Jared Allen doesn't muscle up to the run, but he does bring in the occasional tackle for loss, which is the equivalent of a sack.

I'll take Cassell. In college, I used to play quarterback on a seven player touch football intramural team.

I assume every team with their huge coaching staff does this type of individual analysis on film every week. Too bad it seldom leaks out. The NFL is very good at maintaining confidential information.

Nice try KCO, but due to your obvious attempt to bait me above regarding Herm, I'm gonna go ahead and put you on Tin Man watch.

That old Steelers game bit. I mean give me a break.

Tin Man watch? I'll miss all the action.

ps. That Steeler game was the high water mark of Herm's coaching career. With a field goal kicker, he would have been a champ. Plus, he could use more words to say less than anyone in the history of the NFL. Doesn't that count for something?

Love the concept. Wish I could help but living in Ga. all I can do is listen to the chiefs over the computer for the 1010 fox feed.
Wish somneone would have watched this new NT we got from G Bay in the game the other night or somebody talk to Casey Wiegman about him. Love to know more.
You need to have somebody watch the NT position. Although they will have to be a very football savy fan to grade a NT out. But just whoever is in grade.

I can take Carr. Let's hope the cameramen help me keep an eye on him.

Uh, you know Louis Lewis is going to get watched. Boy I hope he's good.

I've been a Chiefs fan for a while but I'm new to Arrowheadaddict.com. While I don't have the attention span to watch a single player all year, I am really looking forward to updates on this article. What if you set up some kind of chart that has all the players being watched with a sentence or two describing how they did each week?

I'll definitely be updating this regularly, thats for sure. It could turn out to be a really informative project. The current plan is to have all my regular player-watchers email their results every sunday or monday and then I'll post the most interesting stuff mid-week.

I'd be willing to keep an eye on the nose tackles, love this idea.

Nice. So you're our Ron Edwards guy (do we even have any other nose tackles?). When we discover who the second string is, you can handle him as well since only one will be in the game at a time.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Sweet Ron can actually be kind of fun to watch. I definitely saw him make more dynamic plays than Dorsey or Tin Man last year. My worry is that on a play-by-play basis he isn't very good. Will be interested to get your take on that.

prime question: does Ron Edwards ever draw double-teams?

We picked Toribio up off waivers from Green Bay so thats another NT.

I will watch Tyler Palko with the same creepy dead eye stare!!! I hear he is selling insurance. I will let you know how well he does. He better not take "no" for an answer!

Seriously, I will take Branden Albert.

All right Jeremy, you're on Albert. I'm guessing we'll get someone else on him too. He's one of our most important players. We've all focused on his pass-blocking so far, but I have absolutely no idea what kind off run-blocker he is. Would be very interested to know that.

Our goal should be to get Palko to hire you as his personal attorney.

Fantastic idea Matt. Step up Addicts and be an expert on one player for the season.

And if you want to watch someone constantly being out of position and getting owned by blockers, pick Corey Mays.