Hedging Our Bets

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I’m not going to talk much about Saturday’s Chiefs/Bucs clash of the titans.  I saw most of the first half, but on a shitty feed with a slow Internet connection.  I’m not the best guy to break this game down, and I’m not really that into dissecting preseason games anyway.  I came away from the game encouraged that Matt Cassel looked better, but discouraged that Thomas Jones is still starting*.

*Everyone has their explanation for this.  Some make sense, some don’t.  Until I see some evidence that Haley actually favors Charles over Jones, I’m viewing this as a potential problem.

Its hard for me to get excited about a loss to the Bucs.  Coming into this game the general consensus seemed to be “we should beat these guys.”  Then we lose and the consensus is “It was close.  Progress!”  Over the past three years I’ve heard Chiefs Nation call every loss that wasn’t an absolute blowout progress, and to me the word itself has gotten stale.  I need to see wins to declare progress, particularly when playing against one of the worst teams in the NFL.

But that’s not what this post is about.  This post is about a tactic I’ve been using over the years when looking towards the future.  A tactic that upholds optimism while limiting disappointment.  It’s also a good way to test your scouting eye.  This wonderful, magical tactic is called hedging your bets.

I may have oversold it with all that “wonderful, magical” stuff.  It’s actually pretty simple.  Whenever there are two Chiefs in a similar position, I limit myself to only expecting success from one of them.  Play the odds, if you will.  If you live and die with one player’s development, you’ll often end up disappointed.

Players don’t usually become what we want them to be (see Parker, Samie).  Widen the pool, and the odds become better.  I like to put players in pairs and think “OK, as long as one of these guys does well, I’ll be satisfied.”  Then I get the pleasure of trying to predict which one is destined for success.  Of course things aren’t really this cut-and-dry, but it’s fun to make predictions, isn’t it?  Of course it is.  Just yesterday I predicted I’d eat fish today.  And you know what, gang?  I had that fish.   Tilapia, $2.67 per pound.  At that price I’d have been stupid not to buy.

Here are some Chiefs pairings I’ve been hedging my bets on:

Jovan Belcher and Andy Studebaker- These guys may play different positions, but they’re both young linebackers we found on the scrap heap and are hoping overachieve.  I know a lot of you are high on both, but the odds that both will become viable starters is slim.  One of them, however, could easily be the real deal.  Which is more likely?

I’m going with Studebaker* on this one.  I’ve got nothing against Belcher, and I’d like to see him start, but I’ve never actually seen him stand out in a real game.  Studebaker, on the other hand, won us that Pittsburgh game.  I’ve got much more hope invested in him given Mike Vrabel’s age and our desperate need for another pass rusher.  I can’t help but think Belcher might end up being nothing more than the next Corey Mays.  Remember how high we were on Mays at this time last year?  I had him ranked #7 on my “10 Chiefs I’m most excited to watch” list.

*AA commenter and Big Matt colleague The Centaur calls Studebaker “The Student Baker.”  I don’t know why, but that nickname really tickles me.  If anyone wants to photoshop a picture of Studebaker wearing a chef’s hat, I’d appreciate it.

Dexter McCluster and Javier Arenas- I didn’t like either of these picks when they were made.  Both seemed like luxury picks we couldn’t afford.  But you Addicts’ enthusiasm has since worn me down a little on that front.  I’m now thinking one of these guys is likely to make me eat my words.  Which one?  Really hard to say.  Paddy loves Arenas, Joel Thorman loves McCluster, the Chiefs love both, whats a Big Matt to do?

I’m gonna go with Arenas here.  I really want to move all in on this secondary, and by all accounts Arenas should be a legit return man.  Like Tamarick Vanover without the drug ring.

Plus I’ve just got this feeling its going to be harder than we think to get McCluster the ball.  I wonder about his ability to consistently play receiver.  And if we have to get him the ball on sweeps and screens, aren’t we just using him for stuff Jamaal Charles could do anyway?  I think I’m like the one person in Chiefs Nation not thrilled with McCluster.  But I’m also the only one hyping Alex Magee, so it all evens out.

Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson-You guys probably saw this one coming.  Well, why not?  It’s impossible to separate these guys.  The LSU Block Eaters.

I know we’d like to think both players are going to make huge strides this year.  The Chiefs are counting on it.  But we of all fans should know better than to expect that.  I’ll be satisfied if one of them takes a noticeable step forward.  And just so we’re clear, “noticeable step forward” means actual good plays, not just being on the field.  One of these guys needs to figure out how to get a few sacks.  I know its the 3-4, but they were top five picks, for crying out loud.  Three sacks shouldn’t be out of the question.

If either Tin Man or Glenngarry Glenn Dorsey becomes a legitimately good defensive end I’ll be happy.  We’re just going to have to try to forget where these guys were drafted or it’ll drive us crazy.  They probably won’t ever justify the huge contracts.  I’ll settle for one solid player.  It looks to me like Dorsey has the better shot.  I know this is pessimistic, but I’m expecting Tin Man to live up to the name.

But then again, whats in a name?  If a Tin Man were called by any other name, would he not eat as many blocks?

Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel- Yes, I hedge my bets on coaches too.  Especially when they have such similar fashion sense.

I think some of you are expecting both of these guys to work wonders.  That just isn’t going to happen.  Coordinators can only do so much.   For a bad team, at least one coordinator usually has to play the fool.  There can only be so many heroes on a sub .500 team.  At the end of the season, odds are one of our coordinators will have had his reputation tarnished somewhat.  As long as the other still looks like a genius (your words), I’ll be OK with that.

As I’ve written before, I think Weis is our huckleberry here.  He’s got more to work with, and in my mind is more of a proven talent in his field.  Crennel is going to struggle this year.  This defense still has a long way to go, and I don’t think he can change that.

The silver lining is that no matter how bad Crennel does, he was still an improvement for us.  He could show up to the games in a diaper and bonnet and I’d still be confident he was doing a better job than Clancy Pendergast.  I heard Pendergast sells widgets door-to-door now.

How about you, Addicts?   If you had to hedge your bets and count on only one guy to succeed from each of these pairings, who would it be?

note: Send some positive vibes out for my boy Maurice Leggett today if you get a chance.  Mo-Leg is one of my guys, and I was psyched to see him get a look at safety this year.  The hush-hush nature of his injury is a little unsettling.  If you worship a deity, shout him/her a holler on this.  Neck injuries are a scary thing.

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I am really excited about Kendrick Lewis locking down one of the Safety spots. So to hedge that bet, I am pairing him with Gilberry. I am looking for either one of these defensive players to earn some serious playing time and make some major plays. Lewis/Gilberry, hell yeah!

I really like what I see from Ken Lew. He's gonna need a nickname soon. A very intimidating presence.

Another great post Big Matt. I want to disagree with you on Tin man, but if you check our arrowheadpride you can see a statistical link on just how bad tin man really was. He hasn't look horrendous in the preseason. Dorsey was one of the few draft prospects that I thought could live up to his hype. Jackson I thought would be a solid starter from day one...let's just hope he becomes a solid starter on day 400? 1. I'm going to hedge my bet on Studebaker. One the guy's family made the car studebaker and two he's produced against a real team when Vrabel was out. Jovan looks the part, but so did mays' last year. The same can apply to Arenas vs. McCluster. I think McCluster is WAY WAY to hyped up for his own good. The guy might be a tough kid, but the reality is that he's 170 and big men in the NFL can hit pretty hard. I love it when my buddies pick McCluster really high and I can take a guy who's produced fantasy wise. I hope he's the next percy harvin, but I'm not willing to go against arenas for it. Yea, Crennel vs. Charlie is like Rocky vs. Bulwinkle. Rambo vs. bambi Big Matt vs. a Big Mac. Charlie wins' hands down. I would also hate it if he was our Head coach. All you have to do is look at how he did at Notre Dame. Enough said.

I got pretty annoyed that Rams fans won a Super Bowl so quickly and liked to rub it in all our Chiefs fans' faces in college. I knew then, and I definitely know now, that they are nothing but die-hard baseball fans and fair-weather football fans. It doesn't bother me anymore because I'd rather have the history and rabid fanbase of the Chiefs over their Super Bowl any day.

Good write-up Matt! I'll take Glengarry Glenn Dorsey on that one. Coffee is for closers. How about this hedging of a bet... Danario Alexander vs. Terrance Copper I wish we could play that one. Good luck to DA since he just signed with the Rams. I don't know what his chances are of making the final roster signing this late in the game, but he's the first Ram player that I'll be rooting for.

Yeah looks like I've finally got a Ram to root for too. It's good timing, I was just remarking to someone the other day about how I no longer hate the Rams. Time has healed that wound. Time, and them being so, so bad. That should be one team where Danario could stick. I mean they are going to be bad for a looooong time.

1) I choose Studebaker as well for the same reasons as you. Don't think that Belcher will turn into Mays though. Belcher is one of the surest tacklers in the NFL whereas Mays is one of the least sure. 2) I can't choose between McCluster and Arenas. I think they both would do well in return duties but that won't earn them the value of a 2nd round pick all by itself. I've seen more of McCluster's abilities on the offensive side of the ball than Arenas on the defensive. Like you, I'll be happy if one of them works out and ecstatic if they both do. 3) I choose Jackson over Dorsey. Jackson is a year behind Dorsey but I have seen better play out of Jackson than Dorsey so far this preseason. I'm not sure he'll ever be worth what he was picked at but he's still been doing better than Dorsey. 4) I choose Weis over Crennel. I think the O has more weapons than the D and so Crennel will end up a bit of a scapegoat. However, I in no way think that Weis will ever replace Haley. If Haley gets replaced, neither coordinator will replace him. They had their shots at coaching their own teams and it didn't work out for either of them. Congratulations on figuring out a way to endure disappointing Chiefs seasons. We all have our own. Mine is concentrating on the upcoming draft. By focusing on the potential of players we don't even have yet, I am able to semi-delude myself into thinking we will draft the next Peyton Manning and Jerry Rice in just a few months time.

I was hoping someone would have the stones to pick Tin Man over Dorsey. Bold choice, Ehud. Can't wait to see how that hedge in particular turns out. The draft is always a good way to distract yourself. The problem is the inevitable disappointment that comes with getting so hyped about certain players you probably won't get. It's like you're soothing one disappointment by setting yourself up for another. I was livid, LIVID, during the second round this year. McCluster and Arenas were just not on my radar at all. The fact that they both seemed to be kick returners was salt on the wound. I think Mays' biggest problem is he always seems to fill the wrong gap. It seemed like every time I watched him he was committing to a lane that we already had stuffed, only to see the running back break through an opening immediately to his right or left.

Love the Glengarry Glenn Dorsey nickname...hope it sticks

Hedge Bet: Haley/Pioli ( I am going with Pioli) I love that Vanover joke! He and Bam Morris. "It's 4:20 somewhere" Thanks for the great article Matt. By the way, DD was taking about me with that progress thing. Hey DD: Not this year, I am not towing that line anymore.

Jeremy, You can rest assured I wasn't directing my comment towards you or anyone else specifically. Eh, I'll just leave it at that.

It is all good DD

Jeremy, Pioli and haley is a great hedge bet. I mean, we can't just assume both of them will get the job done. The odds on a head coach and GM rookie doing that are low. But one of them? Yeah, thats not too much to hope for. The answer has got to be Pioli though. Because if things go bad, he can always shield himself with Haley. Whereas if things go good for Haley, Pioli is going to look pretty good too. As long as he's still on his first HC, the GM is always safe.

Big Matt, Thank you for serving up such a fresh, down to earth perspective and even better than that, an immensely entertaining read! You landed a bunker strike right where Double D lives by saying "over the past three years I’ve heard Chiefs Nation call every loss that wasn’t an absolute blowout progress, and to me the word itself has gotten stale." That really hits home brother. Keep 'em coming. I'd have to say my biggest hedge bet is for Weis to replace Haley should things continue to go south. Not necessarily wishing for it; but rather like you, merely maintaining it as a hedge. Am I the only one intrigued, if not amused, by the fact that so far Weis has been up in the booth rather than on the sideline? Gotta keep those boys separated I guess. Another hedge for our collective contemplation: Pope / O'Connell

"Am I the only one intrigued, if not amused, by the fact that so far Weis has been up in the booth rather than on the sideline? Gotta keep those boys separated I guess." Aren't nearly all offensive coordinators in the booth?

Actually, I figured Weis was in the booth because of his blown-out knee.

Al Sunders sat in the booth. O-Coordinators sit in the booth. Did Charlie call from the sidelines in NE?

I've seen it both ways. It could also depend somewhat on the HC's own coaching backgound. Wasn't Gun in the booth when Herm was the coach? I was mostly trying to be a little bit funny, if not a bit provocative, with my take on Weis and Haley. No matter, it's still probably a good idea to keep those 2 in separate corners.

Gun went back and forth. He was in the booth that first year with Herm, then he came down to the sidelines the next year and cursed at everyone, then he went back upstairs. None of it helped.

Double, My father (KC Oracle) has been saying Weis would be our next coach from the second he was hired. Normally he doesn't go out on a limb like that, but he is positive Weis will be our coach next year, and even that thats why he was brought in. I'm not qquite in that camp, but you gotta think if Haley gets the axe Weis will step in. Unless there is another former Patriot out there somewhere we don't know about. As to the Pope/O'Connel hedge, we're looking for one of them to be a decent backup/rotational tight end, yes? In that case I'd go with Lenny the Pope. O'Connell looked really, really bad last year. As to the booth discussion, all I have to add is that Gunther did indeed play musical chairs year to year. He'd always be blaming his previious location and talking about how great the switch was gonna be, too. Looking back, Gunther was just as full of shit as Herm, carl, or anyone else. For some reason we liked him at the time (until the end) but God, what a hack.

AS THEY SAY, ALWAYS TRUST CONTENT FROM THE KC ORACLE. p.s. I thought there were blogger ethical rules protecting the anonimity of guys with really cool secret names?

You guys should know that guy in the picture is me, not Big Matt. Big Matt took that picture of me when we went to Vegas last weekend. As for the ladies, well, that's just how I roll. When girls find out you work for Arrowhead Addict they flock to you.

Yeah, its Paddy in the pic. But the girls are cardboard cutouts and we were at an Indian Casino. I'm crying in my beer at the $5 table.

I am really excited about Kendrick Lewis locking down one of the Safety spots. So to hedge that bet, I am pairing him with Gilberry. I am looking for either one of these defensive players to earn some serious playing time and make some major plays.

Lewis/Gilberry, hell yeah!

I really like what I see from Ken Lew. He's gonna need a nickname soon. A very intimidating presence.

Another great post Big Matt. I want to disagree with you on Tin man, but if you check our arrowheadpride you can see a statistical link on just how bad tin man really was. He hasn't look horrendous in the preseason. Dorsey was one of the few draft prospects that I thought could live up to his hype. Jackson I thought would be a solid starter from day one...let's just hope he becomes a solid starter on day 400?
1. I'm going to hedge my bet on Studebaker. One the guy's family made the car studebaker and two he's produced against a real team when Vrabel was out. Jovan looks the part, but so did mays' last year.

The same can apply to Arenas vs. McCluster. I think McCluster is WAY WAY to hyped up for his own good. The guy might be a tough kid, but the reality is that he's 170 and big men in the NFL can hit pretty hard. I love it when my buddies pick McCluster really high and I can take a guy who's produced fantasy wise. I hope he's the next percy harvin, but I'm not willing to go against arenas for it.

Yea, Crennel vs. Charlie is like Rocky vs. Bulwinkle. Rambo vs. bambi Big Matt vs. a Big Mac. Charlie wins' hands down. I would also hate it if he was our Head coach. All you have to do is look at how he did at Notre Dame. Enough said.

I got pretty annoyed that Rams fans won a Super Bowl so quickly and liked to rub it in all our Chiefs fans' faces in college. I knew then, and I definitely know now, that they are nothing but die-hard baseball fans and fair-weather football fans. It doesn't bother me anymore because I'd rather have the history and rabid fanbase of the Chiefs over their Super Bowl any day.

Good write-up Matt! I'll take Glengarry Glenn Dorsey on that one. Coffee is for closers.

How about this hedging of a bet...

Danario Alexander vs. Terrance Copper
I wish we could play that one.

Good luck to DA since he just signed with the Rams. I don't know what his chances are of making the final roster signing this late in the game, but he's the first Ram player that I'll be rooting for.

Yeah looks like I've finally got a Ram to root for too. It's good timing, I was just remarking to someone the other day about how I no longer hate the Rams. Time has healed that wound. Time, and them being so, so bad.

That should be one team where Danario could stick. I mean they are going to be bad for a looooong time.

1) I choose Studebaker as well for the same reasons as you. Don't think that Belcher will turn into Mays though. Belcher is one of the surest tacklers in the NFL whereas Mays is one of the least sure.

2) I can't choose between McCluster and Arenas. I think they both would do well in return duties but that won't earn them the value of a 2nd round pick all by itself. I've seen more of McCluster's abilities on the offensive side of the ball than Arenas on the defensive. Like you, I'll be happy if one of them works out and ecstatic if they both do.

3) I choose Jackson over Dorsey. Jackson is a year behind Dorsey but I have seen better play out of Jackson than Dorsey so far this preseason. I'm not sure he'll ever be worth what he was picked at but he's still been doing better than Dorsey.

4) I choose Weis over Crennel. I think the O has more weapons than the D and so Crennel will end up a bit of a scapegoat. However, I in no way think that Weis will ever replace Haley. If Haley gets replaced, neither coordinator will replace him. They had their shots at coaching their own teams and it didn't work out for either of them.

Congratulations on figuring out a way to endure disappointing Chiefs seasons. We all have our own. Mine is concentrating on the upcoming draft. By focusing on the potential of players we don't even have yet, I am able to semi-delude myself into thinking we will draft the next Peyton Manning and Jerry Rice in just a few months time.

I was hoping someone would have the stones to pick Tin Man over Dorsey. Bold choice, Ehud. Can't wait to see how that hedge in particular turns out.

The draft is always a good way to distract yourself. The problem is the inevitable disappointment that comes with getting so hyped about certain players you probably won't get. It's like you're soothing one disappointment by setting yourself up for another. I was livid, LIVID, during the second round this year. McCluster and Arenas were just not on my radar at all. The fact that they both seemed to be kick returners was salt on the wound.

I think Mays' biggest problem is he always seems to fill the wrong gap. It seemed like every time I watched him he was committing to a lane that we already had stuffed, only to see the running back break through an opening immediately to his right or left.

Love the Glengarry Glenn Dorsey nickname...hope it sticks

Hedge Bet: Haley/Pioli ( I am going with Pioli)

I love that Vanover joke! He and Bam Morris. "It's 4:20 somewhere"

Thanks for the great article Matt.

By the way, DD was taking about me with that progress thing.

Hey DD:

Not this year, I am not towing that line anymore.

Jeremy,

You can rest assured I wasn't directing my comment towards you or anyone else specifically. Eh, I'll just leave it at that.

It is all good DD

Jeremy,

Pioli and haley is a great hedge bet. I mean, we can't just assume both of them will get the job done. The odds on a head coach and GM rookie doing that are low. But one of them? Yeah, thats not too much to hope for.

The answer has got to be Pioli though. Because if things go bad, he can always shield himself with Haley. Whereas if things go good for Haley, Pioli is going to look pretty good too. As long as he's still on his first HC, the GM is always safe.

Big Matt,

Thank you for serving up such a fresh, down to earth perspective and even better than that, an immensely entertaining read! You landed a bunker strike right where Double D lives by saying "over the past three years I’ve heard Chiefs Nation call every loss that wasn’t an absolute blowout progress, and to me the word itself has gotten stale." That really hits home brother. Keep 'em coming.

I'd have to say my biggest hedge bet is for Weis to replace Haley should things continue to go south. Not necessarily wishing for it; but rather like you, merely maintaining it as a hedge. Am I the only one intrigued, if not amused, by the fact that so far Weis has been up in the booth rather than on the sideline? Gotta keep those boys separated I guess.

Another hedge for our collective contemplation:

Pope / O'Connell

"Am I the only one intrigued, if not amused, by the fact that so far Weis has been up in the booth rather than on the sideline? Gotta keep those boys separated I guess."

Aren't nearly all offensive coordinators in the booth?

Actually, I figured Weis was in the booth because of his blown-out knee.

Al Sunders sat in the booth. O-Coordinators sit in the booth. Did Charlie call from the sidelines in NE?

I've seen it both ways. It could also depend somewhat on the HC's own coaching backgound. Wasn't Gun in the booth when Herm was the coach?

I was mostly trying to be a little bit funny, if not a bit provocative, with my take on Weis and Haley. No matter, it's still probably a good idea to keep those 2 in separate corners.

Gun went back and forth. He was in the booth that first year with Herm, then he came down to the sidelines the next year and cursed at everyone, then he went back upstairs. None of it helped.

Double,

My father (KC Oracle) has been saying Weis would be our next coach from the second he was hired. Normally he doesn't go out on a limb like that, but he is positive Weis will be our coach next year, and even that thats why he was brought in. I'm not qquite in that camp, but you gotta think if Haley gets the axe Weis will step in. Unless there is another former Patriot out there somewhere we don't know about.

As to the Pope/O'Connel hedge, we're looking for one of them to be a decent backup/rotational tight end, yes? In that case I'd go with Lenny the Pope. O'Connell looked really, really bad last year.

As to the booth discussion, all I have to add is that Gunther did indeed play musical chairs year to year. He'd always be blaming his previious location and talking about how great the switch was gonna be, too. Looking back, Gunther was just as full of shit as Herm, carl, or anyone else. For some reason we liked him at the time (until the end) but God, what a hack.

AS THEY SAY, ALWAYS TRUST CONTENT FROM THE KC ORACLE.

p.s. I thought there were blogger ethical rules protecting the anonimity of guys with really cool secret names?

You guys should know that guy in the picture is me, not Big Matt. Big Matt took that picture of me when we went to Vegas last weekend.

As for the ladies, well, that's just how I roll. When girls find out you work for Arrowhead Addict they flock to you.

Yeah, its Paddy in the pic. But the girls are cardboard cutouts and we were at an Indian Casino. I'm crying in my beer at the $5 table.