Preseason Expectations

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With the first of four meaningless-yet-tantalizing games set to take place tonight in Atlanta, I though this would be a good time to make a few predictions for the preseason.  Actually, I guess predictions might not be the right word.  I’m not going to be talking about wins and losses here.  For me every preseason looks pretty much the same.  It’s impossible for me to figure out how much meaning I should attach to these performances.  I’m basically just looking for a few good plays from key players to hang my hat on.  Maybe a long shot rookie free agent to get excited about.  Honestly, if I could fast-forward to September 13 I probably would.  But since I haven’t figured out how to reverse-hibernate (yet), this is the best I can do.

Here are some expectations I have for the Chiefs 2010 preseason:

The first-team offense will struggle, and we’ll hear it’s because they’re using a limited playbook- This hardly even qualifies as a prediction.  It happens every year, and this year will be no exception.  If the offense ever looks the slightest bit out of sync, we’ll be reminded that they aren’t showing their best stuff.  The phrase “cloak-and-dagger” will probably be used.  Apparently during the preseason every offensive coordinator becomes a never-nude.  Won’t take off the cutoffs.

(source: foodcourtlunch.com)

There probably is something to this, actually.  I’m sure most teams really do scale down their playbooks when the games don’t count.  It makes sense.  But there’s no denying it sounds a lot like all the other excuses we’re fed by the Chiefs spin doctors any time anything goes wrong.  I rank “we didn’t show anything” right after “nobody was calling” on thelamest things a GM can say” list.

A young defensive player will make a big play and we’ll all get very excited about it- I still remember when Tank Tyler made that goal-line stop in the preseason his rookie year.  He looked like a force to be reckoned with.  He was psyched afterwards, too.  It was a cool moment.  I thought we’d finally found that presence in the middle we’ve been missing since…..Saleamua?  Alas, it was not meant to be.  I was happy just to get a 5th round pick back for Stank.

Which young defender (other than Eric Berry) will endear himself to us this preseason?  Jovan Belcher?  Kendrick Lewis?  Donald Washington?  Smart money is on Junior Siavii.  My sources tell me we’re about to bring him back.  Time to finish what Carl Peterson started.

Brodie Croyle will throw short passes really hard, and people will continue to act like he is a viable option at quarterback- Croyle isn’t accurate, isn’t mobile, and he can’t stay healthy.  I don’t understand why anyone would want to see him starting games for us, but apparently some people do.  They see him whipping 5 yard passes with all his might and think “that guy has all the tools.”

I don’t mind having Croyle on the roster.  It’s not like we’re flush with quality backup quarterbacks right now.  But a Herm Edwards seal of approval and some face time on Hard Knocks does not a successful quarterback make.  I’m guessing this preseason will provide further evidence that Croyle just isn’t that good.

Chiefs Nation will collectively piss our pants the first time Dexter McCluster touches the ball- Is McCluster already the most popular player on our team?  It certainly seems that way.  I still don’t love the pick, but I’m really looking forward to watching him run.  There has been A LOT of hype (local hype, anyway) surrounding this kid.  Apparently he runs so fast he breaks his shoes.  Neat.

Thomas Jones will start more games than he should- I’m assuming Jones will get the start tonight, and that worries me. Sure it’s only a preseason game, and Pioli and Haley have been telling us not to read too much into depth charts*.  Still, I want him nowhere near that starting lineup. 

*I find this annoying.  Of course we’re going to care about depth charts, and we should.  They have meaning, even at this stage.  Obviously nothing is set in stone, but Pioli telling us not to concern ourselves with depth charts is like KFC telling us not to look at their ingredients.  Obviously he’d rather nobody scrutinize anything he’s doing, he’s made that abundantly clear.  But if he’s not going to tell us anything, we’re going to have to interpret some things for ourselves. 

Look, I like Thom Jones.  I like that we brought him in.  But if the intent is to give this guy anywhere near as many touches as Jamaal Charles, something is seriously wrong here.  Jones averaged 4.2 yards per carry last year, Charles averaged 5.9 (behind an inferior line no less).  No amount of intangibles or veteran leadership can make up for almost two yards per carry.  A single start for Jones, even in a preseason game, is a bad sign.

I know preseason games don’t mean much, but we can’t ignore them entirely.  Any opportunity to learn anything about this team over the next month will be greedily devoured like a blocker by one of our defensive ends.  Speaking of which, whats the over/under on blocks eaten by Tyson Jackson this preseason?   I’ll start the bidding at 10,000.

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Good assessment. Keep in mind that the reason the NFL even has pre-season games is to make a ton of money forcing season ticket holders to buy tickets while they are not paying the players. The teams don't take the results seriously, although the Chiefs will try to win some of these games (to help sell regular season tickets). So, use the pre-season the same as NFL teams do -- to look at how individual players perform and who they are performing against at the time. Forget any attempt at statistical analysis. Last night's game mostly produced evidence that the Chiefs are likely to be lousy again; however, McGluster and Arenas look like real playmakers, which might make a four win team into a six to eight win team. If the Chiefs used the Gonzales pick to take Arenas, it also might turn out to be a decent trade.

Dorsey and T-Jack should amass 25,000 eaten blocks by year end. I think I'm going to creat a bib that says, "How many blocks did you eat today?" Can't imagine that would go over well out at Arrowhead.

I want to get a mug that says "Block Nosher"

i didn't mean to imply that all those guys were playing at the same time. julius jones hasn't been on the team for a while. the cowboys usually have a couple solid running backs balanced pretty evenly in carries. i just used them as an example, but many teams in the nfl have gone this route as opposed to establishing a clear featured back.

Just like Mike Shanahan. He proved he can run the ball against anyone with any back. It's smart if you can make it work, but not everyone can.

no doubt. the rat's trade for champ bailey brilliant. make a player look awesome then trade him. then he's like ok who's next? rueben droughns?? sure whatever.

Shanahan's use of running backs in Denver was probably the most impressive tactic I've ever seen from a head coach or GM in the NFL. I mean, he made Droughns, Mike Anderson and Olandis Gary look like world beaters. And that Portis for Bailey trade was highway robbery. My only question is, why did he bring in LJ and Willie Parker to Washington? A bit out of character, no?

I expect wins, even if it is the preseason because I believe, and you can quote me on this, you play to win the game! Hello?

Where have I heard that before?

Solid Arrested Development reference. It's not easy to work that in a Chiefs blog. Maybe an "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" reference next article? Hopefully not the "Who shit the bed" episode though. Is it bad that I'm almost more interested in watching Sean Weatherspoon and Tony G than I am watching the preseason version of the Chiefs? Don't get me wrong, I really want to watch all the rookies, but I just don't see Haley as the guy that will let them really let loose. I would like to see Arenas run back a kick, obviously. I just need to see what he can do outside of playing the nickel. I'm taking the over on TyJack. The blocks eaten by that guy are going to be legendary.

I was walking through The Plaza yesterday and saw an adult male wearing cut-off jean shorts, possible rat tail. As I thought about taking a picture, I realized I was passing Urban Outfitters, and in their store front was a rack of male jean shorts. Jokes on me. Apparently. The Chiefs could make a real splash if they did a photo shoot wearing their jerseys with cut-offs down below. I have a feeling the fan stereotype might find this very appealing, assuming they've moved beyond the tiger pants. My point? I concur, great never-nude reference.

No one should ever be wearing jean shorts of any kind. This is 2010.

Are we sure Arenas is going to be our returner? I'm still not entirely clear on that. I mean, don't forget, Quinten Lawrence is part of Todd Haley's core. I've never gotten into Always Sunny. About a hundred people have told me I should, and I've seen and enjoyed a couple episodes. There is something holding me back, I don't know what. I see jean shorts all over the place in NYC, on men and women. My instinct is to make fun, but I am so far out of the loop on fashion I just assume everyone knows what they're doing more than me. The people in jean shorts are probably making fun of my adidas shorts, so who knows. I wish I could just wear pajama pants and no shirt all the time.

Not to be the 101st person to tell you, but you have to watch that show. It is hilarious and I'm sure it is right in line with your humor (or as much in line as anything can be with your unique style). Just like Seinfeld, you can watch it in whatever order you want. Look up "Gang solves the gas crisis". Its my favorite episode. I have to assume Arenas is our returner because otherwise I might just lose it before the regular season even starts. Besides how painful it would be just in general, I feel like I have more invested in these 2nd rounders since I stuck up for them. They better not let me down.

but all the money that the 4 runningbacks in dallas r making probably equal what 1 of them would make as a premiere back

Right but there is less $$$ on the line if one of them gets hurt or gets in trouble. This gives the team the option to cut one of them lose without taking a huge hit.

my theory is that the chiefs are going to do what they can to keep charles from having a big season to avoid paying him a lot of money. this tactic has been employed perfectly by the cowboys for years. they spread carries amongst two or three guys and they never have to grant a huge contract. if julius jones, marion barber, felix jones, or even tashard choice would have been given 25 touches a game, they would have had monster years. if you have a great line and can run the ball effectively with almost anyone on your roster, this is a smart move.* unfortunately for the chiefs, the line is shaky, and we only have one clear-cut star at running back. *the chiefs could have done this in the early 2000s with the line we had, but instead had to shell out loads of cash to priest and lj.

I agree with most of what you say though I don't think the Chiefs are doing it to avoid paying Charles. I think they understand that to get the most mileage out of these guys it is better to keep a stable of running backs instead of just one stud. I think our blocking up front will be much better this year. I see this line finally coming together.

yeah i'm fine with not running charles into the ground and keeping him fresh and all that. i'm just saying charles has earned the right to be the starter, placed on the top of the depth chart. to me, anything less would come across as an attempt to keep jamaal's star from shining too bright.

Don't discount the market forces. Teams don't compete alone for talent, but rather against one another. Not all scouts and analysts are fooled by under-utilized talent. Broncos are a perfect example, their RB committee members were continuously plucked away from them, driven by more lucrative deals elsewhere.

Oh man I didn't even consider that it could be a money issue, but that is a DEFINITE possibility. I wouldn't put anything past this bunch of misers. The only thing that argues against that is that Haley seems to love Thom Jones even more than Pioli. Would a head coach really be concerned with saving money? Jesus Christ I hope not. But who knows with these guys? I like the idea of keeping Charles fresh tooo, but for me that means 60-70 percent of the carries, not a 50/50 split. What does Todd Haley have against Jamaal Charles that he'd rather be giving the ball to old, less explosive runners?

jason, i learned yesterday to just hush up about croyle...bc me and u r the only two here that agree on him lol i also believe he is the more talented QB and i wish hed get the start one more time. but wer the only ones lol

Why the lol's? Results matter. Croyle simply hasn't amassed any, winning asside. If performance is the application of talent, perhaps Croyle has one but not the other.

Matt, I agree with everything except the Croyle part. Croyle is more accurate than Cassel, and he can launch the ball down the field about 3 times further. Cassel is a better leader and tougher (hands down), but Croyle is a very good qb, he just has 0 durability. Other than that, I think you are spot-on. We need to win games no matter what. Jones should never start a game, because you start games in short yardage situations!!!

I have seen Croyle makes some pretty damn good throws but I have seen him make some really bad ones too. Being a good QB is about being consistent and Croyle has never looked any better than average.

Jason, I like that you (and Glazier, below) are willing to go to bat for your guy. I just wonder what you're seeing that I'm not. The guy has looked straight-up bad to me almost every game he's played. The one legit excuse he does have is that anyone would've looked pretty bad trying to run Herm's offense of choice. That had to have been painful.

Dude, I already have a full bladder for McCluster's first big run! It shouldn't take him long. And I'll have a illegal public display for the first time Berry comes screaming around the corner to lay out the QB (preferably against the Donks)! MAN this was a long off-season! GO CHIEFS!

This and every preseason game is important to a team that has not been good for to many years-for our mind set to be where it needs to be at the end of the game is important. In the Ravens game last night they had a good punt return-the comment was the players out there will not be on the roster in Sept.-for the chiefs they need to be sharp as they can and show themselves and the fans they are going in the correct direction. Take care and enjoy the game.

I had to laugh at the Siavii line. Last night, I was dozing off while Sportscenter was showing highlights of the Cowboys game. I distinctly remember hearing the anchor get excited and saying "Siavii with a sack of Jason Campbell!". Definitely made me think of my boy Big Matt.

I can't believe Siavii is still kicking around the NFL. I think we all thought he'd be dead by now. I know I did. An artice ran in the star a few years back about our d-line busts and the had quotes from a few of them. At one point they mentioned that they couldn't locate Siavii. I was like, "So thats it then. He's passed." Then he resurfaced with the Cowboys last year and I was just shocked. I still am. I cannot believe he is still in the league.

i do believe tin man could gobble up a block on almost every down he plays this preseason and that goes double for dorsey kroyle third or fourth year in a row as katz'z korruptor - can we start calling him Sideshow? i really liked your last article

Croyle just keeps finding new ways to be Katz's Korruptor. I mean, whats next? A coaching gig? A career in politics? When you first named him Katz's Korruptor, in '07 I believe, I'd have been shocked if you'd told me he'd be occupying the position for the next three years. Consistency?

year in, year out: the most dangerous player on the team

Good assessment. Keep in mind that the reason the NFL even has pre-season games is to make a ton of money forcing season ticket holders to buy tickets while they are not paying the players. The teams don't take the results seriously, although the Chiefs will try to win some of these games (to help sell regular season tickets).

So, use the pre-season the same as NFL teams do -- to look at how individual players perform and who they are performing against at the time. Forget any attempt at statistical analysis.

Last night's game mostly produced evidence that the Chiefs are likely to be lousy again; however, McGluster and Arenas look like real playmakers, which might make a four win team into a six to eight win team. If the Chiefs used the Gonzales pick to take Arenas, it also might turn out to be a decent trade.

Dorsey and T-Jack should amass 25,000 eaten blocks by year end. I think I'm going to creat a bib that says, "How many blocks did you eat today?"

Can't imagine that would go over well out at Arrowhead.

I want to get a mug that says "Block Nosher"

i didn't mean to imply that all those guys were playing at the same time. julius jones hasn't been on the team for a while. the cowboys usually have a couple solid running backs balanced pretty evenly in carries. i just used them as an example, but many teams in the nfl have gone this route as opposed to establishing a clear featured back.

Just like Mike Shanahan. He proved he can run the ball against anyone with any back. It's smart if you can make it work, but not everyone can.

no doubt. the rat's trade for champ bailey brilliant. make a player look awesome then trade him. then he's like ok who's next? rueben droughns?? sure whatever.

Shanahan's use of running backs in Denver was probably the most impressive tactic I've ever seen from a head coach or GM in the NFL. I mean, he made Droughns, Mike Anderson and Olandis Gary look like world beaters. And that Portis for Bailey trade was highway robbery.

My only question is, why did he bring in LJ and Willie Parker to Washington? A bit out of character, no?

I expect wins, even if it is the preseason because I believe, and you can quote me on this, you play to win the game! Hello?

Where have I heard that before?

Solid Arrested Development reference. It's not easy to work that in a Chiefs blog. Maybe an "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" reference next article? Hopefully not the "Who shit the bed" episode though.

Is it bad that I'm almost more interested in watching Sean Weatherspoon and Tony G than I am watching the preseason version of the Chiefs? Don't get me wrong, I really want to watch all the rookies, but I just don't see Haley as the guy that will let them really let loose.

I would like to see Arenas run back a kick, obviously. I just need to see what he can do outside of playing the nickel.

I'm taking the over on TyJack. The blocks eaten by that guy are going to be legendary.

I was walking through The Plaza yesterday and saw an adult male wearing cut-off jean shorts, possible rat tail. As I thought about taking a picture, I realized I was passing Urban Outfitters, and in their store front was a rack of male jean shorts. Jokes on me. Apparently. The Chiefs could make a real splash if they did a photo shoot wearing their jerseys with cut-offs down below. I have a feeling the fan stereotype might find this very appealing, assuming they've moved beyond the tiger pants.

My point? I concur, great never-nude reference.

No one should ever be wearing jean shorts of any kind. This is 2010.

Are we sure Arenas is going to be our returner? I'm still not entirely clear on that. I mean, don't forget, Quinten Lawrence is part of Todd Haley's core.

I've never gotten into Always Sunny. About a hundred people have told me I should, and I've seen and enjoyed a couple episodes. There is something holding me back, I don't know what.

I see jean shorts all over the place in NYC, on men and women. My instinct is to make fun, but I am so far out of the loop on fashion I just assume everyone knows what they're doing more than me. The people in jean shorts are probably making fun of my adidas shorts, so who knows. I wish I could just wear pajama pants and no shirt all the time.

Not to be the 101st person to tell you, but you have to watch that show. It is hilarious and I'm sure it is right in line with your humor (or as much in line as anything can be with your unique style). Just like Seinfeld, you can watch it in whatever order you want. Look up "Gang solves the gas crisis". Its my favorite episode.

I have to assume Arenas is our returner because otherwise I might just lose it before the regular season even starts. Besides how painful it would be just in general, I feel like I have more invested in these 2nd rounders since I stuck up for them. They better not let me down.

but all the money that the 4 runningbacks in dallas r making probably equal what 1 of them would make as a premiere back