What is Page Worth?

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It’s obvious that the Chiefs and Jarrad Page are a divorce waiting to happen. The Lions have been floating around there for some time as an obvious interested team. The Lions DC, Gunther Cunningham knows Page, He runs a system that could use Page. PFT is now reporting more interest from the Lions.

Given the way Pioli handled Bernard Pollard last year, teams are probably reluctant to pony up a draft pick if they think Page is going to get cut. So, this has become a waiting game. Unless another team emerges in the bidding, the Lions have the upper hand.

At this point, I want to pose two questions for everyone to consider and answer in the comments.

1] What is fair value for Page?

2] if a trade is made, what round draft pick (conditional or not, max value of the pick) do you expect to get back.

My thought is that Page is a decent young corner and is worth a 5th round draft pick. With the Lions being the only team apparently in the running, I expect a deal would be for a max value of a 6th round pick. However, I would think Pioli would pull the trigger on a 7th round pick to get this matter behind the Chiefs. Those are my thoughts, now sound off!

Tags: arrowhead addict, Chiefs, jarrad page, Lions Draft, Merlin

nwright

The Pacman comparison was only for the sole purpose of sitting out 2 years and picking up where you left off, no other comparison. If he or they don't want to play for Haley thats fine, but who is willing to let a grudge possibly ruin his career.

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I feel that Page has a lot more to lose than the chiefs have to gain by trading him for a 6th or 7th rd pick. Let him sit on his ass and wiggle. Theres not much of a market for a player sitting out 2 seasons, in his prime. (Ex. Pacman 1) he must prove he has recovered from injury 2) He has labeled himself as a potential problem. He should be showing and proving thats he's worth his asking price.

Double D

Pacman is a horrible comparison. Pacman had all kinds of all the field issues. Whether you agree with his logic, strategy or value, you can't fault the man for that. He's just trying to do business, same goes for Pioli. We all do it.

If the problem is Page not wanting to play for Haley and/or Pioli, that's a whole nuther topic and frankly Page would not be alone in that sentiment. There's a lot of big name, top echelon players who share that sentiment, Exhibit A, Tony Gonzalez.

"all" #2 = "off"

Ehud

Here's the math I do in my head for what I think Page is worth.

Starting pick: 2 (because this is what he was tendered at)
Coming of injury: -1
Problem child: -1
Answer: 4th rounder

This means I would accept nothing less than a 4th rounder to even get me talking. I want to be clear, though, we have his rights so I have no problem with holding on to him. It is Page who is making the bad move here. He is coming off an injury and so this contract year is the time for him to earn his money when he goes to Free Agency or in a trade.

gdr5

He is a great player, sure, but post up some additional numbers if you want to be signed. Potential is there, but chiefs should not go any lower than 4th round pick. If teams offer less, sit him and trade him next year for a 6 or 7. He wants some sort of guaranteed contract, well the chiefs want to be assured he is going to be worth the money he is asking, which the chiefs clearly dont think they have.

chiefsfreak23

i would like to see him back in camp unfortunately i dont think that is going to happen and if not i would like to see us get atleast a 4th rounder no less than a 5th......the guy can play for anybody, and he has a tremendous skill set

Jax

At best we will get a 5th and at worst a 7th.

Keelzeboss

I would be pleased with a 5th round pick, content with a 6th, and pretty meh with a 7th. He's definitely a starting level safety in the league, but those aren't exactly a rarity. Buffalo's probably got 4 of them lol. Absolutely no reason to cut him though. Dude's got no leverage, and I personally can't see another "Bonecrusher" Pollard scenario play out.

Randy5k-Arrowhead Adventurer

Right on Charlie!

As most know I'm a fan of the arrowhead experience. That means my personal feelings cloud my player judgements. I want Page to stay in K C . I miss Pollard , Jaded Allen too. Pioli do what it takes within reason to keep page

chiefsfan3131

Listen we drafted him in the 7th round. If we get a 6th for him we are still ahead of where we were yesterday. He maybe be worth more than what we drafted him, but he is coming off a season ending injury and who knows if he will return to his sub-par form(lol). If we get a 6th I say ship him off. It only takes 1 sour apple to spoil a whole barrel.

Big Matt

No way in hell anyone would give us a third for Page. Probably not even a 4th. Yes he's a "starting safety", but he's played exclusively on bad defenses. He hasn't embarrassed himself, but neither has he been a standout. Furthermore, he's coming off an injury and he's probably not going to get any better. He's already going into his fifth year.

I'd be fine with a fifth rounder, and I think thats all we're likely to get.

Really though, Page should just come to camp. This holdout is ridiculous.

Mark

Lions are likely offering a 7th. Pioli is likely wanting a 4th at this time. I think ultimately we'll settle for a 6th, or a conditional 7th that could become as high as a 5th.

chiefsfanatic

Its a shame they cant work something out because we need him. look what happen when they got rid of pollard.I would sit his ass on the bench until he changed his attitude.maybe they can pick up another player when the rosters have got to be cut.

I pretty much side with Paddy on this. There are too many unknowns about our talent, depth, and leadership at the Safety position to be rolling the dice on some future late round unknown. And why even consider losing a guy who, to me anyway, looks like somebody who is probably just now really hitting his stride? Uh huh, no thanks. I really believe Pioli and Page's agent just need to sit down and work this out somehow.

CHARLIE

The Chief's do not have to do anything. They retain his rights, even if he doesn't sigh this year. The Chief's can set any value on him they want in a trade. His tender is a 2nd round. Thats the starting point in any trade discussion. Nothing less than a 4th round pick would be satisfactory.

Dave

Amen Charlie! He's had injury problems, but he's got tons of starting experience and tallent. I'd also have to say he's got some room to improve as well. You don't give up that kind of value in a player just because he's not an elite level player. Anything less than a 4th rounder would be un-satisfactory!
GO CHIEFS!!

Patrick Allen

I think Page is worth much more than a 5th rounder. He is a starting level safety. I would say he is worth at least a 4th and probably as high as a 3rd.

Remember, we got a 5th rounder for Tyler Thigpen and he isn't necessarily starting caliber.

Page could go to any team and probably compete for a starting spot. The Chiefs shouldn't give him up for anything less than a 4th because he could come back to bite them in the ass on the field.

There is no reason to cut Page. The Chiefs hold all the cards. They should just hang on to him because as soon as preseason gets underway and a team loses a starting safety to injury, Page is going to start looking very, very valuable.

merlin

Pat:

Fine points. Thiggy isn't a good comparison though. QB's naturally carry a higher value. We could play the 'hold and wait for an injury' strategy. betting on injuries is like betting that the sun will come up. Pioli is stuck here. He can't cut Page because that would cement his reputation on dealing with disgruntled players. Teams will wait him out. So, if the Lions offered a 6th, you would turn it down and wait for more of a market?

I would laugh at a 6th. He is a much better player than that.

A couple of things could happen here. If they make him hold out and the season is close to starting, Page is going to get nervous. And he should. He missed most of last season with an injury. If he misses most or all of this season holding out, he is going to be a safety who hasn't played in nearly 2 years. Meaning if the Chief were to release him, say, next offseason, he wouldn't get squat in terms of contract dollars.

His best bet, if Pioli doesn't blink,is to come back and play football. If he plays he will be an unrestricted free agent next offseason and he can get out of KC. If he doesn't play, he will be a restricted free agent again and Pioli can keep him in limbo.

It is my hope that he gives up and comes back. It is the best thing for him and the Chiefs. As excited as I am about Kendrick Lewis, I would rather not have 2 rookie safties.

Page's logic is just stupid. He has a chance to come back after an injury and play lights out in a contract year. As much as teams are overpaying for free agents, he could make a bundle next offseason with solid or above average play in 2010. Instead he is shooting himself in the foot simply because he doesn't like Haley. Oh well. Not many people like their boss but they still need their paycheck.

upamtn

@PA

I agree he SHOULD be worth more, but (there's always a but, isn't there?) all things considered (ie, Pollard thing was totally blown by Pioli, I think) we won't get from ANYONE what he's REALLY "worth" ... I could see something like a 5th Round but conditional to a 4th or even 3rd depending on starts, games played, INTs, etc etc ad nauseum

and if we got that much it would be just fine by me, and I dare say most fans ... keeping Page on the bench or whatever to "make a point" is, I believe, the height of pettiness and not a good way to deal with the issue

I hope Pioli can swing a deal that both he AND Page can live with ... get it done and move on with life