Chiefs Botch Boldin Pursuit

I'm going to go with Brian on this. I say it's as much, if not more, about the situation that Boldin would be coming into as it is about the money. It is very possible that Boldin's personal experience with Haley left him (Boldin) a non-believer. If that's true, then we have a lot bigger problem on our hands than missing out on Boldin.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE A MAJOR MOVE! THIS BS IS REALLY GETTING OLD! I AM TIRED OF WATCHING THE NFL NETOWRK AND NOT SEEING KC DO ANYTHING! THEY OWE IT TO US DIEHARDS TO MAKE A HUGE IMPACT! I MEAN HUGE!!!

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COULDN'T AGREE MORE!

ok more than one word....I am also pissed that they don't do crap, oh wait, they signed Terrance Copper....YYYYEEAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!...

Thats funny, Dude...Seems to me I'm not the only one pissed. And as far as being a "real" fan, while you were out in Penn. I was taking a 4 hour trip to 6 of the home games and farther for some of the away. I've raised my daughter in a Chiefs jersey and have been to training camp 3 years. So before you go internet warrior and start blasting everyone for not owning your same opinion you need to wake up. Maybe its easier dealing with being a Chiefs fan on the East coast instead of here in the heart of the country where we live with them. I won't even justify you responding to your "crawl back in your hole" comment beings my "hole" dumped over 7 thousand dollars into this orginazation last year alone...Much more than your Direct t.v package and online viewing. Maybe if you invested more of your time and money you might feel the same way!

hope he goes to Jville, but Denver could be his new home. That would suck

Yes, to put a positive spin on this I will say this year is possibly one of the best ever as far as strength of draft. Last time a draft class was this good Jimmy Johnson picked all those Hall of Famers! My personal oppinion is that Boldin's style is too much like Bowe's. We need a true deep threat not just a yards after catch type guy. I know we can't afford him with all the giant holes we have, but Dez Bryant looks like a FREAK! I only hope he doesn't end up in our division!

I would say that if the price was a 3rd only, then it would be been considered a good deal. These are not just a 3rd and 4th rd's, they are HIGH 3rd and 4th rd's. Just like Kris said, the Chiefs would have traded away 25% of their draft for a nearly 30 yr old oft-injured, though stud WR. There is a reason they are letting him go, there always is, and money is not the only reason. The price was not right, and I was personally relieved to have the Chiefs pass. Boldin will be good in BAL, as Mason is likely going to retire leaving them with no #1.
Consider this: Will Shields was a 3rd Rd pick
Brandon Marshall was a 4th Rd pick

In this draft, I think the Chiefs will make up for some of the projects they drafted last year due to the draft's lack of depth and load up with some additional picks and plenty of Day 1 impact players.

Brian... couldn't have said it better myself. The Ravens can afford to drop two key draft picks and a ton of cash on Boldin and even if he flops, it's no big deal. They were in the AFC title game two years ago, and the division round last year.

The Chiefs are the exact opposite of that... trading away a third and swapping fourths for a player that could have walked at the end of the year would be stupid no matter how good he is. That's Raiders stupid actually... and while we could franchise him to keep him in the fold, is Boldin worth that kind of coin? He's headed north of 30 soon and has had trouble with injuries in recent years.

People need to remember that there are 32 teams in this league and the Chiefs aren't the only ones gunning for FAs. Pioli isn't on the beach like King Carl and I have no doubt he was up all night and all day working the phones, but in the end it comes down to the player, who gets to decide where they want to play next year. We could pull a Washington and just blow everyone else out of the water by offering $10 million more than the nearest competitor, but again that's not the approach I want to copy.

This team will be better... I guarantee it. If you don't care to believe in that anymore that's fine... but I've been a fan for 25 years and I'll keep believing until they put me in the ground.

I would say it is very dangerous telling anyone on this site that they are not true fans or they have no loyalty. It's obvious we are all die hard fans or we wouldn't be here and some like myself are more than disappointed. I slept for 8 hours and am trying to have a fresh perspective today. I am nothing short of concerned about our beloved Chiefs and PRAY our qwnership/leadership make all the right moves. By the way, I went by Walmart this morning and got a hell of a deal on a bag of patience for $5.99 plus tax!

I know where your coming from but mark my words . Bowe is gonna be a superstar, I just hope he will still be a chief when that happens

does brett favre get off on making his team wait all offseason to see if he's gonna play what a tool it could be worse chief fans

gggoooooooooooooo chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mack- Also, If you are going to hold 102 accountable for being argumentative, say the same to Dude. He is doing the same if not worse.

I don't think the Chiefs were "too cheap" as some are saying to meet the Cardinals reduced price for Boldin (last year they wanted a second round pick).

I'm betting Boldin wouldn't agree to a contract extension to play for Haley and the Chiefs. Remember his contract expires next year. How
pissed would we fans be if the Chiefs gave up their 3rd round pick and swapped 4ths with AZ to get Boldin only to have him bolt after one season.

Blogosphere was constantly reminding us that whoever traded for Boldin was going to have to get him to agree to a big ($8M per year) contract as a part of any deal. That's exactly what Boldin got - a 3 year extension for $25 million with $10 million guaranteed.

I bet the Chiefs offered the Cardinals more than the Ravens and offered Boldin just as much or more and Anquan said "No" to the extension.

No matter how much Haley is said to respect Anquan, the feeling may not be mutual (remember their screaming match on the sideline when Haley was with AZ?). At the end of the day, I believe Anquan wanted to go from one Super Bowl contender to
another. A contender that needs him as "the man", the #1 receiver. A team with no other competition for #1 receiver (even if the competition in KC is Butterfingers Bowe and his traveling diuretic show) where he gets to play for John Harbaugh, not Todd Haley. And don't forget Ozzie Newsome is the GM in Baltimore. One of the most respected GMs and a tough player in his own right.

We didn't get Anquan Boldin because he didn't want to be a Chief, not because the Chiefs are cheap or unwilling to compete for top talent.

Just my two cents.

Dude may have been right in that comment, but he has been wrong tonight as well. No team wins a SB unless they A)Rarely miss on draft picks (And Pioli misses usaully every other year) B) Fill those holes thru free agency. It just doesnt happen. Plaxico Burress, Drew Brees, Darren Sharper, Adalius Thomas, Junior Seau, Rodney Harrison, I could do on some more, all of those players were signed and FA and without them their teams dont sniff a SB let alone win one. Im not ready to give up on Pioli but he does have to be held accountable. This is a big year for him and if he doesnt make an improvement, We could see a change in 2011 or 2012.

So Mack..... Comment #28 was fighting, but comment #25 was ok.... Is that because you agree with him???? You lost me

So what was the great Pioli move:

1) Drafting T Jackson and passing on NT BJ Raji?
2) Trading for Cassel?
3) Cutting Alfonso Boone?
4) Cutting Pollard?
5) Keeping LJ when we could have dumped him?
6) Signing Goff? Signing B. Wade? Signing Mays? Signing Zach Thomas?
7) Signing Chambers in a dead end season and letting him walk afterwards?
8) Trying to trade Charles for a fifth rounder earlier this season?

enough with the fighting 102win, he is not drunk

no one likes that here. Dude is right anyway

Well my loyalty to the team won't waiver, but you can be a die hard fan and spend very little cash.

Well dude, I understand the workings of the NFL. Detriot/Gunther would have an interest in DJ, and the tender doesn't matter if a trade is worked out for the player. NT is the most important position on a 3-4 defense. Guess Green Bay are fools for franchising Pickett after drafting BJ Raji last year. If their was a good NT in FA this year he got tagged. Jamar Chaney ILB replaces DJ!!

Are you dunk or something?

Boldin doesn't bother me as bad as some of the other misses. We would have lost two picks that we need. D. Robinson, Dansby, Banta Cain and Chambers. These guys would fill a hole, and they just cost $, not picks.

Pioli has flat out sucked so far. He was saved last off season with the Cassel deal, and the fact that Denver wanted Cassel. But his 2009 draft sucked, plain and simple. 2009 FA, yep suck as well-Center Jason Brown should be a Chief.

This dude guy is right people

The rest of you just dont understand. The Chiefs are atleast $40 MM below most of the league. But you say "there is no CAP!!!" Yeah, then when there is a CAP, you will have to dump the salary that exceeds it. Its simple math people

102win....

you just cant "send" DJ and Morgan to the Lions for their 2nd. DJ is tendered, wich means the Lions would have to pursure DJ for it to happen, we just cant "send" him off and say "here Detroit, now give us your 2nd" hahaha

You give up on Pioli after not even 2 full seasons???? wow

and Haden is NOT worth a #5 pick....sorry. So you send off DJ then dont draft a LB to replace him and draft 2 NT when you sign one via FA???? great job!!

The whole "build through the draft" and "building for the long haul" and "the right 53" is such regurgitated garbage. You know what wins? Good players. The Chiefs have about 5 of them and are going to need some more. Of course you build through the draft but you have to be good at both! Pioli should know that. I guess the Patriots never went through free agency. Moss, Vrable and Welker were drafted by them. And the Saints drafted Brees and Sharper. Oh... wait... No, that's not right...

It is beginning to look like Pioli was a mistake. Our team last year was full of back-up or even players that came from the streets. Their is still a chance, but it means some FA's and some trades of our younger talent for picks. Sign NT Jamal Williams, RB Mike Bell, TE BEn Watson, and the best Guard available. Send DJ and D. Morgan to Detriot for their 2nd.

Draft:

R1 #5 CB Joe Hadan-Florida
R2 #34 LB Jerry Hughes-TCU
R2 #36 SS Chad Jones-LSU
R2 #50 NT Cam Thomas-N. Carolina
R3 #68 NT Torrell Troup-UCF
R4 #99 LB Jamar Chaney-Miss
R5 #132 OT Mike Tepper-Cal
R5 #138 WR Eric Decker-Minnesota
R5 #140 C John Estes-Hawaii

Thats just you JCharlesFan.....when it comes to "true" fans, you certainly aren't one of them. I live in Pennsylvania and I have been a die hard Chiefs fan my whole life and I still watch every single game either on the Ticket or online. Ive been to 4 Chiefs games in my life, ALL of them AWAY (NY twice, Baltimore, and Detroit) and you wanna sit here and complain??? give me a break!!!! Its people like you, that the reason the fan base is decreasing. Go back to your hole and I cant wait when the Chiefs get better (YES I said it, because I'm a TRUE fan and I believe) and you jump back on the bandwagon.

There are 20 other teams better than the Chiefs on the verge of the playoffs and Championships and you dont see them making any move thus far

I think bring Matt to Arrowhead was an awesome accomplishment, I felt that was a very positive change and far beyond what I felt was possible for us in that position in that short period of time. So he has a pass in my books this time. But again if things dont get better Im paying with my pocketbook.

If he has a good solid plan and it eventually works, its tough to have the fans down on you. If he is too stupid to find his butt with both hands (beginning too look like a distinct possibility) well screw him.

I'm very underwhelmed in Day 1. But I'd still like to see what this new coaching staff can do with our $hitty roster before I jump ship. We can't be worse than only 3 wins, right? Do I smell new team slogan for 2010-2011?

I'm with everyone that is pissed! I am sick of being "patient". Didn't we have to be patient with the Herm era?? Who is Cassel going to throw the ball to? No Boldin, No Walter and I'm sorry but Antonio Bryant sucks. There is a reason why Tampa (who was worse than us) didn't keep him. So now what?? And just for the record, Dude, the teams like the Eagles and Cowboys STILL HAVE A FAN BASE! They may not be winning Championships every year but they are still fun to watch and are competitive. I went to the Chiefs/Raiders game last year and I was surrounded by more Raiders fans than Chiefs fans! Not to mention that we lost! This reminds me of a job where all the executives and bosses get rich and the workers make minimum wage.

whos the last big name FA the Colts signed???? Steelers??? Chargers??? hmmm

I'm not saying the DONT sign FA, I'm saying they don't go and spend all their money on them

this last 'tweet' from Schefter will explain how different this off-season is compared to any other with no CBA in place....these contracts ARE RIDICULOUS.....now Douglas, would YOU spend that money on an avg. safety???? look what the Lions spent on Vandenbosch.....The FA this year are expecting heavy contracts and the Chiefs arent looking for that. The right to call them cheap makes you look dumb

https://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

How is it really that tough? You are millions of millions under the former cap and now you have no cap. You have a brand new stadium that you need to win in and you can bring in talent to help this team win.

I don't understand how it is so hard! Maybe no player wants to come to Kansas City anymore :( We will see what they do in the coming days but we can't sit on our hands like we have the past few years.

Zach,

1/10 (Charles) ain't bad!

Another season or so of this and I will start voting with my wallet. That being said, if a good plan is in place, this is a tough time to have Pioli's job.

Such vitriol. The way I see it, Pioli is merely getting this team better more slowly but for the long haul. He is building the team from the lines outward, which we knew he did, but also making it young. The team will develop slower but it will be a more solid team as a whole.

He does this so that in later years we aren't using the draft to make our team ok but using the draft to maintain our high level of play.

Dude you are wrong. The colts and even Chargers do build thru free agency. Almost ever SB team in the last 15 years had a player aquired thru Free Agency or Trade that started for them. Giants, Pats, Ravens, I could go on and on/ Sure, some teams go overboard like the Redskins, but no Chiefs fan is expected that. For them not to aquire Boldin over money (Which is what it was, they couldnt agree on a contract w/ his agent, I guarentee you that) It frustrates fans. Im willing to bet the Chiefs dont sign a single starter this FA. I would even bet we loss Chris Chambers because of Hunt and Pioli's cheapness. Im not going to a game this year if they dont make some sort of upgrade, I know that.

A 3rd round pick is really nothing for a potential superstar. Boldin is a tough SOB and might shine being the number one.

Lets look at some third round picks we have had over the past decade:

Tyler, Charles, Morgan, Magee, Cottam, Croyle, Thorpe, Fox, Julian Battle, Easy, Beisel...

Enuff' said

Yeah, Kendrell Bell. That worked out beautifully.

Adam I know how long you have had your eye on Boldin. Im very disappointed as well. That being said I have to say both Kris and Chris make very good points. Guys I dont think the Hunt family is cheap. My problem with the current situation is that the Hunt family seems to think they have all the time in the world to rebuild and the fact of the matter is when it comes to the Chiefs fan base 2010 is pivotal. Signing a name like Boldin would have went a long long way toward filling the stadium again. Clark Hunt needs to go to a Royals game.

You people over react wayyyyyy too easily. You act like FA was only today. There are many more good FA out there still. Just because we didnt get "the best available" doesn't mean anything.

You all seem to forget that not many teams build their team through FA. Yeah you will put pieces together here and there and fill holes, but look at the top teams in the league the past few years like the Colts, Steelers, Chargers, etc. They all build through the draft and fill holes in FA. They will usually never make a big FA splash. Now look at teams that build around FA like the Eagles, Redskins, Cowboys, etc. What have they done???? The teams with big money owners are gonna spend money, obviously, but does it win you championships????

When was the last time the Chiefs signed a big name FA???? c'mon...someone tell me?? ohhhh thats right, you can't!!!! either grow up and realize this is the Chiefs or go move to Foxboro

Thank you Adam, for telling it like it is. So many people want to say it's draft picks but that is not it. The Chiefs could have had Boldin for a 3rd and swapping 4th rounders, thats a better deal then the Cards got from the Ravens. The problem is the contract talks with Boldin's agents weren't going well. Same with Chambers. Ive been to atleast one game ever year the past 7 and Im pissed. I feel like I just got dumped.

I am as frustrated as I've been in a long time as well. I am with you, Adam, I have been optimistic (to a fault most likely) about Pioli and the rest of the front office. But having all of these draft picks is not as great as many have said. A 3rd round pick for Boldin? Really? Anyone remember who we drafted in the 3rd last year? ALEX MAGEE... That's right. Anyone out there who wouldn't trade Magee for Boldin? If you're even thinking about it try this out. Grab a rubberband and flick yourself right in the midsection and see if that wakes you. A 3rd round maybe or a proven playmaker on a team that has few? NO-BRAINER. Yikes, boys it is going to be a long few years. Hope they do something quick but opportunity rarely knocks like this.

Really cheap owner? You guys forget quickly that he brought in the number 1 rated GM (expensive) and the number one sought after OC and DC (also expensive). Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch I would suggest waiting to see what Pioli has planned.

Uh, make that hole, not whole. Sorry.

Well Fans,we have just got screwed again.they have no intentions on signing a real good player that could help us now.they will find somebody to just get by for another season,and thats it. I hope everybody starts boycotting the games,and show Clark what we really feel. just do us all a favor and sell to somebody thats in it for winning now,instead of just the money.YES IM PISSED OFF;;;;;;;;;;;;

I was as disappointed as anybody when this fell through. Especially since I thought this was the one position we could not address via the draft this year. But this falling through has nothing to do with a perceived cheap owner. Assigning blame to at least something always makes one feel better, but doesn't address the real problem of why the Chiefs didn't pull the trigger. But let's be realistic here and remember a couple of things:

1. We have about 15 holes to fill on our roster. Giving up 25% of our draft picks when we only had 8 to start with didn't make sense to me.

2. Free agency isn't over. We may not be able to upgrade the top end of our roster this FA period, but we can definitely upgrade the middle and lower. No brainer that we can still improve our team. (But they'd better get SOMEONE at WR!!)

3. We can upgrade the top end of our roster immediately with our first 4 picks.

All this leads me to think that if we improve the middle and lower in FA, add some key spots to the top end via the draft, then after the lockout is over we'll be able to go into an offseason in which we have ONLY A FEW holes to fill. I sure like the sound of that. The reality is that we are in just too deep of a roster whole to give up 2 picks this year.

Just my opinion, and my wife says I'm usually wrong anyway.

Just read Walter will stay with Texans. That leaves?

You said it, Cheap ass owner!