Comments on: What is Derrick Johnson Worth?

By: hmills110

hmills110 — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:47:34 +0000

bbq: Brown’s apparent lack of speed says he’s no upgrade over Pollard in coverage. But he’s not much downgrade, either, truth be told, and he’s a much surer tackler and smarter team player up near the line.

By: hmills110

hmills110 — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:44:54 +0000

Now that New England has brought back Seau, it appears KC missed the bus on any sort of trade for a 2nd-rounder. But the fact is that DJ has missed too much time and played nicked too often when he wasn’t missing time to justify much in the way of trade value.

AFRO: It might LOOK like a Peterson move to punk the guy and try to bully him in salary talks, but I think it’d be common sense to bargain fairly hard with him. He almost certainly wants a bigger raise than I’d be willing to offer him. I think, though, that the Chiefs would gladly be starting him and giving him most of the minutes if his health and consistency warranted it.

Other teams know his history as well or better than any of us, and while one might be willing to pay him more than KC would (or should), I don’t see him being worth a 2nd-rounder. Maybe a 3rd-rounder or, better yet, a conditional pick tied to his production in the new venue.

But I think most teams see the writing on the wall with this guy, and only a team in contention while simultaneously in dire straits at LB RIGHT THIS MINUTE would be offering much. I think the ideal scenario is one in which DJ earns his way onto the field by staying healthy, and then doesn’t get too greedy in contract talks.

His numbers are middle-of-the-road, imo. And you have to discount for how often he’s out or playing hurt, because you have bigger depth issues. If he plays out the string and is instrumental in a magical 11 games this year, then fine. But I don’t see that happening.

By: bbq

bbq — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:59:06 +0000

I don’t even care anymore. Whatever helps us win at this point is fine by me.

We’ve all been supporting DJ for a long time and just waiting for him to have that breakout season (“this might just be the year DJ makes the Pro Bowl!”). The reality is that Derrick Johnson might just not have what it takes to be more than mediocre at the NFL level. He is extremely inconsistent and has not been the presence everyone hoped he would be at linebacker.

If we traded away the vast amounts of potential we had in Bernard Pollard and Tyler Thigpen, there’s no reason to not trade DJ and start stockpiling draft picks for the future.

As far as I’m concerned, almost everyone on the team is expendable with the exceptions of Dwayne Bowe, Matt Cassel, Brian Waters, and Dustin Colquitt. That’s not even a top 5 list, ladies and gentlemen.

There aren’t many players on the team anymore that I care about enough to get upset if they are traded. The only players left from when the Chiefs were actually worth a damn are Brian Waters and Larry Johnson. Larry Johnson is no longer worth a damn himself, so that leaves one aging left guard.

We need nearly everything. O-linemen. D-linemen. Linebackers. Wide receivers. Tight ends. Running backs.

Hell, depending on how the rest of the season turns out, we may need a head coach.

If we can get good value for DJ, we should trade him as soon as possible.

By: shane.smith

shane.smith — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:39:38 +0000

No way we take Quinn. Sorry Randy but he is God awful. I like our QB lineup just the way it is for the rest of the year.

By: AFRob69

AFRob69 — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:43:25 +0000

Is it just me or does it seem like Pioli and Haley are taking a page out of Carl Petersons book? Alienate your players, and then hope to resign them. No matter how unmotivated or underachieving DJ is or has been, how many possible wins could we have with him consistently on the field right now. Who knows maybe we beat Dallas, and the Raiders with DJ consistently playing. Also is Brown really that big of an upgrade over Pollard? i think i take the younger, faster, harder hitting Pollard over old, and slow brown everyday. Just my opinion

By: Randy5k

Randy5k — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:29:34 +0000

HEY we need to get Brady Quinn

By: Dr. Paine

Dr. Paine — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:19:35 +0000

I’m not sure what his value would be to those on the outside looking in. They see a player who can’t play his way onto the field on an 0-5 team. We see a player who was heralded as the next great linebacker in KC when drafted in 2005, a player who despite his great physical gifts couldn’t realize that potential for whatever reason. Sure, he’s made some really nice plays over the years, and has left us yearning and longing for more. His play this season has us hoping that this year is FINALLY the breakout year that never comes. The NFL is chock full of talented players that can’t bring it every play of every sunday, but have their moments every so often. They usually man the sidelines.

To me, it seems as though Todd Haley prefers the blue-collar, lunchpail type of linebacker that has to scratch and claw their way onto the field with average ability to the ultratalented but underachieving Derrick Johnson. I really like how he is pushing DJ to realize that potential, but I’m not sure if it’s going to work out for him here. As the season wears on, it will be interesting to see how this develops. Who knows, maybe we will see the DJ every sunday we envisioned when he was drafted in 05. Hopefully he will be wearing a Chiefs uniform if/when that every happens…

By: Randy5k

Randy5k — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:37:19 +0000

Keep DJ Keep DJ

By: shane.smith

shane.smith — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:55:07 +0000

I know DJ hasn’t held a consistant record as being a stud week in and week out, or been 100% healthy over the years. But I definately have seen a spark in him this year with this defense. I still believe Haley is full of it when he says DJ is nicked up. D Williams IMO hasn’t done enough to gain such praise from Haley. Anybody see the forced fumble by another lost Chief? His name is Fujita and like Mitchell, was cut or traded for no good reason. I agree with DD in Haley should keep DJ on the field and let him play. Even for those of you that want to see him go now, I think he would play well enough that his trade value would probably do nothing but increase!

By: Jeremy Hanson

Jeremy Hanson — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:24:36 +0000

Keeping DJ for just eleven more games so he can ride the bench and leave in free agency is not smart business. He was not and has not been locked up (contract wise) for a reason. He won’t come back to KC next year.

Merlin, if we could get a 5th for him, then do it. Start asking for a three, there are some LB needy teams out there. See what happens.

Cassel4prez, I am all for that trade, but LJ’s performance and 4 million dollar contract will prohibit it. Plus the Pats love second rounders.

Only time will tell.