I just came up with a pretty interesting, and plausible, trade scenario:
Buffalo Bills receive:
G Brian Waters, No. 3 overall pick
Kansas City Chiefs receive:
RS/WR Roscoe Parrish, No. 11 overall pick, No. 28 overall pick
I am now convinced that either Jeremy Maclin, Michael Crabtree or Tyson Jackson will be there at 11. If we go WR at 11, we draft someone like Larry English or Michael Johnson at 28. If we go DE at 11, we go with a WR like Darrius Heyward-Bey at 28. We also get a kick returner in this deal, and a proven one at that. We help our pass rush, help replace Tony Gonzalez and give our special teams a boast with just one trade. Granted, we would have a hole on the offensive line, but we could make other moves or address that later in the draft (round three or four).
Buffalo does this because they replace their offensive line losses (Derrick Dockery and Jason Peters) in one fell swoop with Waters and either Eugene Monroe or Jason Smith. It would pretty much be an offer too good to refuse for the Bills, a team determined to win now, as well.
Addicts, if you are the Chiefs do you do this deal?
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You meant Waters.
We should jump all over this trade. Unfortunately I don’t think it will happen due to the finnancial burden of the #3 pick.
Buffalo will simply take an OT at #11 or #28.
What about Waters for Parish and thier #3/4?
I like it.
meant 3rd or 4th round pick
Well, the unload Parrish’s salary and I doubt Shields’ salary would be any bigger than the 28th pick, so I don’t think the financial burden would be two crazy. Plus, they only have to negotiate with one rookie. I think the difference between Andre and Jason Smith is enough incentive to do this deal.
Typo fixed!
I would shoot for Maclin and Laurinaitis personally.
That’d be one heck of a deal. Like Maclin and was raised a Buckeye so I like Laurinaitis too. Clay Matthews wouldn’t be awful either if he’s around.
I would rather let them keep parrish and see if we could deal our 3rd and waters to buffalo for 11,28 and 42 and if they didnt like that we could throw in a later pick.
Rumor someone heard over at AP is that falcons are considering trading thier first this year and this year 2 and 3 for dorsey
NM guess it was heard hear to i havent scrolled down
I like it. What about this trade scenario.
Cleveland gets #3 overall pick & 5th round #139 overall.
Kansas City gets #5 overall & Cleveland’s 2nd 2nd round pick #50 overall.
(Browns take Sanchez & trade Quinn to SF, NYJ or TB)
Then:
New England gets #5 overall pick.
Kansas City gets #23 overall & our 2nd round #34 back.
(Patriots take Orakpo)
Chiefs take OT Eben Britton & DE/LB Connor Barwin.
If Dorsey goes to Atlanta for the #24 overall, trade that to Arizona for Anquan Boldin.
Adam
your trade makes no sense. trading Waters basicly straight up for Roscoe is nonsense. Replace Roscoe with the #50 pick and you might have something
Talk is that Andre Smith might actually go #2 to St. Lue.
Also talk that Snyder is in the mix, because he’s so enamored of Sanchez. Makes me chuckle, because Snyder has no idea how good Campbell is, since the kid’s been runnin’ for his life the whole time.
Agree that Buffalo’s a logical trading partner, but if they cared so much about left tackle, why didn’t they keep Peters happy?
sorry on this one but hell no
buffalo wont do it…we just got a waiting second rounder for a hall of fame TE…
no way we get more from a watters trade, no possable way… watters is not a hall of famer, far from it.
and how can we see getting 2 firsts and a player for ours and watters the numbers dont add to me.
***SORRY GUYS BUT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WATCHING US CHANGE COACHES AND HAVING THE NEW COACHES COME IN FINDING TALENT THEY DONT WANT…
Can people see that every time we switch, the new coach wants different players than what we have…lol
and cant you see we always grab a coach who is from the opposite side of th ball off then deff, and back and forth…lol
we have set ourselves up to watch another two years of bad teams…that people SUCKS!
no more crap now
this year we draft O-LINE thats right build this team right
O-LINE
Grab Curry if you want but build the damned O-LINE NOW!!!
last year didnt we replace Allen… and we could have had everybody we did get, other than our left tackle, who everybody now agrees with me on isnt a left tackle.
imagine that folks a d-line that had both our dorsey and allen on it…much better than what we may be seeing , as dorsey may not have a spot on the line to play…
That’s the issue, redbeard, but I tend to agree with others that Dorsey prob’ly still makes sense in the new scheme. But if he doesn’t, and Chiefs can get value for him, then I’m not bound to him.
Point is that the 4-3 wasn’t working, and the roster probably WILL take extra tweaking. Keep in mind that there is no dominant 4-3 DE in the draft. One of the causes of the KC D’s struggles in recent years was adherence to a philosophy on D that doesn’t really work, anymore.
QB’s tend to be much more mobile, these days. And DEs who are stout enough to run-stuff AND outmaneuver an offensive tackle AND run down RBs and QBs in space are even less common than they were when Neil Smith joined the Chiefs.
So the Chiefs stretched things out of shape in a number of ways to fit what they wanted to do (which was unsound), so there SHOULD be some ruthless cutting, here and there, but always with an eye to using the guys that are already in the fold to implement the new schemes.
If that trade goes Crabtree is the only WR I would take at 11. I would rather have Bay or Britt later.
I personally hope for the Atlanta trade, but I don’t see that happening.
Browns I think is very realistic.
Why are people suddenly suggesting that Branden Albert is not any good as a LT or at least not our best option there? Did I miss something somewhere?
When did we become so freakin enamored with Tyson Jackson. He’s a nice player but not at #3 overall. Kiper has him going 3rd now to us?
The pivotal team will be the Kansas City Chiefs. Much has been made of new general manager Scott Pioli’s penchant for trading because of his past with the New England Patriots. But I expect him to stay where he is for this draft (third overall) and turn the draft upside down by picking LSU DE Tyson Jackson. This kid is the best fit for the Chiefs’ 3-4, and Pioli clearly knows the value of a good defense. In my previous mock draft, I had Jackson going to the Denver Broncos at No. 12, but Jackson fits perfectly with the Chiefs and Pioli isn’t afraid to make a big play.
Where have I been for this? I thought we were still arguing over whether Curry was worth 3rd overall money. Please God if you could possibly intervene and allow my Chiefs to get a fatty trade out of the #3 spot, I will promise to limit my F-bombs to 4 or less per game next season. But if by some miracle you throw in a playoff run, all bets are off.
Waters definitely lost alot of his “value” from the Tony trade but he’d still be worth a third rounder THIS YEAR!!
I think we could try our #3 and Waters for their 11, 28, 67
They replace the left side of their line. And can still use their 2nd to try to get back into the first, with someone wanting to trade back, for Pettigrew.
At 11 we get Tyson Jackson
28 can be used on WR (Britt,Hicks,Bey) or go D again with LB English maybe Matthews or go ahead and take Mack or Unger at that spot.
I think Buffalo has to get an OT and i dont know that Any of the Top 4 will make it out of the top ten with Oher possibly goin to san fran. And from than on there are some question marks except maybe for Britton.
Between today and tom. i really think we’ll end up with even more quality picks
Could be Kiper understands team needs better than I do. For all I know, Chiefs are secretly desperate to trade Dorsey and in desperate need of a true 3-4 DE. Added to that is the fact that the snippet of film I saw last night showed Jackson to be more mobile in space than what I’ve been reading about him.
It IS crucial that you have 3 monster widebodies who understand the style and will play selflessly. I happened to think that the DTs KC had could play that style, with maybe one super-monster 3-4 NT, like Ron Brace, to nail it all down – not for gaudy stats, but to hold the middle and take o-linemen out of the other 8 guys’ way.
i was just talking to a buffalo fan last night about almost the exact same scenario only mine included our #3, waters, dorsey, and our third rounder for buffaloes #11,#18, thier second rounder and parrish. but your scenario is probably the easier of the two to pull off.
Interesting talk. Starting to look like the Chiefs might be stuck with that #3 pick…