AADQ: Another Free Agency Angle

by Chiefs

The economy is in bad shape. Most NFL teams are cap strapped. Pro Bowl-caliber vets are getting cut like they were journeymen. Maybe, just maybe, Scott Pioli thinks that the most valuable asset the Chiefs can have heading into the draft, and even into the June 1 cut deadline, is plentiful cap space?

Guys like Anquan Boldin, Jarvis Green and Shaun Rogers will surely be easier to acquire on draft day, right? After all, it was Scott Pioli who once imported Randy Moss for a fourth-round pick. I’m not saying that’s going to happen again. What I’m saying is that maybe we get a guy like the disgruntled Rogers for a third- or fourth-round pick on draft day, when one year ago he cost a third and a highly regarded, at least at the time, cover corner in Leigh Bodden. Keep in mind that Rogers led all nose tackles with 76 tackles with 4.5 sacks. He’s just one example, too.

The theory here: better to give up a pick and get a guy you really want with a reasonable contract, than to over pay a free agent you don’t like as much.

Additionally, I think players, and good ones, will continue to get cut all the way up until June 1. Teams will also be looking to trade players rather than straight up release them. I believe this is what happened with Mike Vrabel. What better way to keep a player out of the hands of a division rival than to trade them to a team of your liking for whatever you can get? Makes sense if you were already going to cut that player anyway.

We also have veterans — Brian Waters, Larry Johnson and Tamba Hali come to mind — that I could see us trading for draft picks.

As the draft approaches and vets continue to get cut, maybe Pioli thinks that the best way to be a player this offseason is to maintain the most flexible cap situation in the NFL? If so, he could be right, as long as he finds ways to capitalize.

Addicts, sound off on this theory…

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Excellent article on slow activity teams in free agency. Go to
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f27ea0&...

Lets say we trade LJ. What do we get in draft picks and how much do we lose towards salary cap, wages ect.?

Here's something I thought of today. Yes, Pioli probably wanted to come in with a big, epic move to start his era in KC (Cassell), but if Pioli is really as smart as some of us think he is, and knowing how secretive he can be, don't you think he's probably got another trick up his sleeve? If not, wouldn't it have made more sense for him to have waited until draft day to make the trade to throw everyone off their game?

Eh... I've been without internet for a week or so, so pardon me if I've missed a thread along these lines, but... have we talked about Tomlinson at all, if we can unload LJ and S.D. is dumb enough to cut him? His contract talks with Chargers are up and down, depending on whose mom you listen to.

We certainly have the money to ride that for a couple years, assuming he has a couple left.

I'm willing to give Waters a pass, and we simply have too much need on the OL.

Frankly, I lobbied to get rid of LJ BEFORE he got the big contract. I suspect this is Clark's biggest regret, and it is going to be tough to unload him with his bankroll. I'm afraid we are stuck, though if we can get a 2nd rounder, then excellent - though his stock has plummeted just like mine.

I trust Pioli, Clark, and Haley - looking forward to the next moves.

The NFL is bigger now than ever, and we are as obsessed as ever. As fans of a struggling franchise with a lot of holes, this next month and a half leading up to the draft is going to be Hostel style torture.

I love it!!!!!
I haven't seen this much hub-bub in the off season in years. Everyone wanting Pioli to do this or that. Everyone thinking Haley is a Tasmainain Devil or a flash in the pan.
I hope the Chiefs players get as worked up as the fans are.
I've said this on other sites:
"The Chiefs rocket to the Super Bowl has lifted off."

woody agreed. whitcock = huge assclown.

rich04: The Patriots didn't really have a GM, Belichick and Pioli worked together in a (not suprisingly) mysterious relationship as far as who had how much power and whatnot...

Adam: Nothing at all would surprise me with both the NFL the way it is and the way Pioli works....It is an exciting time but we kind of just have to sit back and wait....We should all remember how horrible of a situation we were in on December 14th and how much brighter our future is now....

Whitlock comes off like an assclown. The Chiefs are not the Government, there is not freedom of information act for the Chiefs, they don't need to reveal jack....

Yeah we have long cringed of the possibility of LJ being a donkey, but that was more due to the Shanahan zone system that made any decent RB look good. The system they have now is going to be pretty much the same as ours. He has the attitude to want to bring it extra hard against his former team and to twist a knife in the wound of us Chiefs fans. With that said, trading him to Denver would make Scott Pioli look like Matt Millen.

I for one think that an LJ trade is highly unlikely, just because he is seriously overpriced as it is. And surely we would have been more active in signing on of the 5 RB's that have already been signed.

I guess we could always trade LJ to the Broncos! I think that they only have 11 RB's on their roster and what is sad is that none of them are a number one! LOL

As for the trades... that better be what he is waiting on because this feels a lot like last off season minus the Cassell trade. In the last 8 days my chiefs pants have gone from going totally crazy to feeling neglected... Just start bringing in some players please

Now that TB signed Derrick Ward (for a hell of a bargain!) what is the market for trading LJ for some picks? I could see Philly if they didn't already have a highly paid top tier back in Westbrook, even though he's injury prone. 2 back systems are the wave of the future, but that's a lot of coin to spend on one position, and both players are getting up there. It would be ideal for Pioli to sling a Parcellseque deal that sent malcontent Jason Taylor to the Skins for a couple of picks, but DE and RB are very different positions as far as trade value goes. Houston could use a RB like LJ to complement scat back Slaton, but they might use their pick on either Beanie or Moreno in the bottom of rd 1.

With that said, what if we kept the jackass around to piss him off so he runs like he has a set of nuts again? Chad Johnson filled reporter's notebooks with trade begging the entire offseason last year. Where did he go? Nowhere.

Jimgem,

I applaud your response. Excellent.

The main thing is that he was there when the trade happened. He either was a part of it or learned how it was done; and if he is even half as good as the whole NFL thinks he is then he now has the knowledge to make similar deals.
I liked your thinking on this post much better than yesterday's Adam. I can see us waiting until last minute cuts are made cuz they are gonna be players that were closer to making teams. While there were a few players that I would have liked to see us sign so far in free agancy; I would rather wait and not spend all the money on day one like the Redskins did. I believe that the Chiefs brain trust knows what it is doing and I will try to be patient for some big news.

We as fans want a winning team for the money we spend on tickets, etc and the support we give. In fact, we demand it or we critizise, bemoan, and anything else we can to show our disproval. But that is all we can do.
Clark Hunt wants a winning team for the money he pays the Chief's staff. If he doesn't get it he replaces the staff with someone he feels can get the job done.
Our enjoyment depends on the Chiefs being a winner.
Pioli's job depends on the Chiefs being a winner.
I think he has as much or more motivation to do a good job as we, as fans, have to see winners at Arrowhead.
Let's give his way a chance to work.

I am not giving Pioli a free ride as Whitlock is suggesting that people are, but I am willing to be patient leading up until the first game of the season. I believe that Pioli has a plan, and will give him the benefit of the doubt for now. BUT if the Cassell trade is the only move that is made by that first game, I won't be so patient next year. You gotta give the guy a chance to prove you right or wrong before you can start questioning him. Great post, Adam.

Was it Pioli that made the trade for Moss or was it the Pats GM? Don't give him too much credit.