Bobby Engram: My Other Favorite Bobby

by Rumors

Since we all now know that my last Bobby man crush didn’t work out, I’m pretty stoked about us looking at my second favorite Bobby — Bobby Engram.

When healthy, Engram has just about the best set of hands of any receiver in the NFL. He’s not fast, big or dominant, but he runs perfect routes, gets open and catches everything. Better not get a cold or STD within five feet of him, because he’d come down with it. Two years ago, he posted 94 receptions, 1,147 yards and 6 touchdowns. He’s not as good as either T.J. Houshmandzadeh or Wes Welker, and he’s 36, but he’s a similar kind of player.

From Adam Schefter, NFL.com:

Free-agent wide receiver Bobby Engram is in Kansas City today visiting with the Chiefs.

The visit makes sense on two fronts. Back when Engram played in Chicago, he spent one season working with a young assistant coach, Todd Haley, who now is the Chiefs’ head coach. Also, the Seattle Seahawks moved on a receiver Monday when they signed T.J. Houshmandzadeh, leaving much less playing time for Engram, a 13-year NFL veteran.

Engram has produced at his two previous stops – five seasons in Chicago and the last eight in Seattle. Now he could have the chance to do the same in Kansas City.

Engram doesn’t have blazing speed, so he’s not going to stretch the field. But Todd Haley never really had that in Arizona either, as neither Anquan Boldin nor Larry Fitzgerald are really considered “burners.” I know this much; he’d make a helluva second security blanket for Matt Cassel for a few years. You know who the first security blanket is, provided he remains a Chief. The key here is Engram’s health. He’s missed 18 games over the past five years.

If we think he’s got a decent chance at playing 13 games after conducting his physical — like he has four of the past five years — then we sign him. Look, would you rather have Laveranues Coles at $6 million or Engram at $2 M? Especially when Coles is just as injury prone. Easy decision, right? It’s not just about him being a good bargain either. By importing Cassel and Haley, Scott Pioli has tied the future of this organization to the passing game. If the Chiefs do not give Cassel and Haley everything they need to be successful, then the new regime will fail in its attempt to rebuild the Chiefs into a winner. Wide receiver is currently on of the biggest needs on this roster as a result of the direction Pioli decided to take. End. Of. Story.

Speaking of Bobbys, it’s pretty funny that people are still bringing up something as trivial as Bobby Sippio all the time. Yeah, I was wrong. I was wrong about an AFL receiver becoming a supporting receiver for our Chiefs. I admit that. Big deal. Let’s not do revisionist history and act like Herm Edwards didn’t have a major chubby for his son’s best friend Jeff Web, though.

If we had to discuss every time ol’ Merlin Haggard was wrong, we’d have to publish an A.A. encyclopedia of goofs. Dude struck out on the Brodie Croyle-and-Herm Edwards comedy duo, before striking out again with a proposed nucleus of Eric DeCosta, Jon Kitna/Tyler Thigpen and Rex Ryan. And we all remember this money quote from Merl the Pearl:

I do not see Matt Ryan as a franchise QB, so I would not even look at him.

I know it’s hard being Pippen to my Jordan, Flava Flav to my Chuck D, Robin to my Batman. But you’re the best sidekick I could find, Merlin. Did I say Robin? Whoops, I meant Alfred the Butler, because homeboy is 137 years old. He’s right about this all being in good fun — it always is, always will be. I enjoyed his post, and I think we all did. But he knew my retribution would be swift. Had to of known.

Anyway, Addicts, yes or no on Bobby Engram?

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Bowe says he wants Crabtree and is heading to Cali to chill with Cassel

Guess we can scratch that off the list. Kinda strange how every time we start kicking a name around, the next thing we know the guy gets resigned. (Twilight Zone theme starts up in the background).

Devery Henderson just re-signed per Adam Schefter.

Sweet comeback, but I think Moore would bring something to just about any offense in the league.

The thing about Bobby is that he is one of the few players in the league who could teach the Bradleys and Franklins the nuances of the position and what it takes to maximize potential. He's a guy who sat out half a year with Graves' disease in his mid-30s and came back to play all 16 games and record almost 100 catches. That's a special player right there.

We need guys who have a good rapport with Haley and Pioli and can help deliver a winning culture and mindset.

Regardless, Lance Moore would not bring anything special to our O.

Adam,

Lance Moore averages somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 or 11 yds / reception. Devery Henderson averages in excess of 20 yds / reception. How can I make this any clearer?

Yes, Lance Moore just had his first good season and ended up with more yardage than Henderson for the first time in his career. Obviously that qualifies him as the best get on Adam's latest flavor of the month menu.

Lance Moore is fine as a possession receiver but unlike Henderson, he lacks the ability to get separation as a deep threat, which, btw, the Chiefs still lack last time I checked. The way I see it, Henderson is the better fit for KC and because his numbers were a bit off last year, most likely the better value.

Trust me, the guy is the last guy in the world you'd want delivering babies. Worst. Hands. Ever. Makes Darrell Jackson look like Mr. Stick 'Em. You can only stretch the field if you can actually make the catch, otherwise they won't scheme to stop you.

Why was Devery Henderson's YPC number so high? Because he's a one-trick pony. Lance Moore had TDs of 32, 33, 47 and 70 yards last season. It's just that he's also goo in the short and intermediate passing game. Henderson? Not so much. He's the last guy you are ever throwing to on third or fourth down.

I think Engram on the cheap would be a sound pick up. We don't always need to be sexy. He is as reliable as they come and I would feel really good having him on the field on 3rd down. He is probably the most undervalued wr in the league. Coles would be a mistake. Taking a look at Ronald Curry might not be such a bad idea. I think on any other team (aside from the raiders) he has the most upside of the WR's still available. For the record lets just slow right down on the whole Matt Ryan is franchise material. Sure him and Flacco were not obvious busts, but they didn't do anything spectacular either. Espesially Flacco, who I think will eventually be considered a bust when the Raven's D can'e win games for them anymore. Time will tell.

DD,

I've had both of those guys in fantasy plenty of times and watched them on Direct Ticket for years. Engram might have the league's best hands, while Henderson might have its worst. That being said, WTF are you smokin'? If we want a receiver from the Big Easy it's Lance Moore.

As for Webb, just because he's been given what I assume is the minimum tender, that does not mean he will make the final 53. He's a camp body and the Chiefs are just being thorough. If they liked him so much (and Darling and Franklin and Bradley), Engram wouldn't have been in K.C. in the first place. You Webbslingers...always get me fired up.

Anyway, I wanted to chime in since we'll likely never talk about Webb again. Other than the day Webb gets cut, that is.

Engram isnt flashy, or anything more than a solid pro, but like Wes Welker will do very well simply being a heady player because the D is keying on a HOFer (T-Gonz = GOAT WR, Moss = most talented WR of all time).. Its a smart move, bring in a vet for the trasition that isnt going to break your bank, he lasts 1 or 2 years and by that time Bowe will be hitting his peak years.

"What in the F do we have 50 million for."

The worst thing you can do when you have money is not invest it wisely.

Devery Henderson is the better answer. Perfect complement to D Bowe and Tony G because unlike those two, he gives us the ability to stretch the field. Good price and plenty of tread to boot.

Speaking of Webb, I'll go ahead and take away a little vindication given that Pioli resigned him. Your chubby play no longer applies Adam. Webb may not ever be an elite receiver but he can block and he's fearless on the slant. It's not about having the best 53, it's about having the right 53.

I was super excited after our ground breaking matt cassel deal and now i feel like the rest of FA will just be a dissapointment. i understand not going after the huge contract guys bc with that usually comes huge egos and huge financial burdens. But, c'mon Pioli, there are plenty of GMs who would love to be in your position with that much cap space and im sure they would have made at least one FA signing by now. If we keep waiting, all of the descent talent will be gone and we'll be building our team around thirty something year old veterans on their way out of the league....can we just make a move please!!

Were fine guys, we don't need to go and blow our money load just because we have it. We don't want to pull an Al Davis. Look at all that money he spent last year and what does he have to show for it? Nothing. Plus anyone can be traded if the price is right. Were fine guys don't stress, this a happy time.

Randy Moss,Corey Dillion, Seau are examples that come to mind.

Haynesworth would have been nice, but i would have thought we could have gotten somebody to fill a hole, like Jason Brown C. What does St. Louis have that we do not?

This plan is just plain Stupid! His only move, even though it may be great, cost us our #34 pick. What in the F do we have 50 million for.

102 remember where these guys come from. They dont make big splash's in FA. Parcells and Belicheck just dont work that way and neither will Haley/Pioli. They are going to get alot of middle of the pack know your role kind of guys and draft the studs. Phase the middle of the road guys out through attrition. Thats how this system works. Ya its boring, but until proven otherwise its been pretty effective. The blueprint that is.

So i was under the impression that we were in the middle of a youth movement. Apparently I didn't get the memo that we were only interested in veterans over 32. In that case if we are looking at Haggans and Engram why dont we bring in two future HOFers for a look see. Ray ray and Marv are both class act guys with rings and could provide alot of leadership to our "youth movement". Just a thought.

Eddie Drummand! Seriously? I say NO, Crabtree.

This is getting old, I can't even find good players that we could pick up in FA-they are all gone. Just what in the hell has Pioli been doing. Cassel, and that is it!!! We have all this money that needs to be spent and noone to spend it on. He may have pulled off a good deal for Cassel, but that can't be it????

Our three most talented players want out, I am starting to want out too!!!

im liking the sippio idea, engam would not better this team- he will make it worse

I honestly forgot Devard Darling was even alive. Wow. That's how irrelevant he was last year.

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing engram in...why not? Especially of we can get him for cheap. He would be a hell of a lot better than jeff webb or devard darling and he would take some attention off D Bo and TG.

I would much rather have Coles than Engram. It's all about production. I don't remember Engram being a disruptive player, except if you are refering to last year when he spoke out against bringing in Favre, kind of like the rest of the team eventually did.

Bottom of the barrel. Sign: Ray Willis OT Seattle,Marques Harris OLB Chargers,Ronald Curry WR Raiders. Trade Waters,LJ and our second next year for bills #11 overall. Trade #3 down with Detriot get their #20,#33,#129. Trade down from #20 to #29 with NYG for their #60.

R1 #11 DT BJ Raji-Boston College
R1 #29 LB Larry English-N. Illionis
R2 #33 C Max Unger-Oregon
R2 #60 OG Duke Robinson-Oklahoma
R3 #67 RB Rashad Jennings-Liberty
R4 #98 LB Darrell Ellerbe-Georgia
R5 #129 RB Glenn Coffee-Alabama
R5 #131 DE Kyle Moore-USC
R6 #162 CB Joe Burnett-UCF
R7 #194 LB Worrell Williams-Cal

Trades would allow Detriot to get Curry and QB or OT,Giants could grab Pettigrew TE.

Fuck it. I say bring back Sippio.

Coles is a head case and a disruptive player in the locker room. That is not the kind of player we need to bring in.

a 36 yr old place kicker ok, punter ok, long snapper ok, maybe even a center. but a reciever....please get him a walker

BTW..........I'd much rather have Coles at $6 million than Engram at $2 million. Coles is five years younger and has a reasonable shot at being a very productive wr.

Thank God Engram left KC without a contract. The last thing I want to see is a washed up wr trying to pass himself off as a productive slot receiver. He is 36 and has shown an inability to stay healthy. No thanks.

I'm not sure I like this much either. Surely there is a better option out there somewhere ... just because Haley has coached a guy in the past doesn't make him the best option.

Ive expressed my opinions about this on other posts but in light of this new post by adam i have to reiterate. i am totally against bringing in a 36 year old receiver who is on the downside of an average (at best) career. the guy has had one 1,000 yard season in 13 years, last year he didnt even reach 500 yards and had 0 TDs. his health has always been a question and although im all for bringing in extra weapons for our new QB, why not go after someone a little bit younger and far more explosive, like a devery henderson. please stay away from bobby e!!