Second-Round Pick For Cassel and Vrabel
This might even be better news than getting both of these players. There is no way we could have drafted a quarterback with Matt Cassel’s experience and caliber in the second round. There is also no way we could get a linebacker with Mike Vrabel’s leadership and poise at the No. 34 spot. Here is more from Peter King:
The New England Patriots have traded quarterback Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel to Kansas City for the Chiefs’ second-round pick in the 2009 draft, SI.com has learned.
The trade is expected to be announced this weekend.
The Patriots originally dealt Cassel to the Chiefs — now run by former New England vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli — on Friday for an undisclosed draft pick. Now it has been learned that the Chiefs will get both Vrabel and Cassel in exchange for the 34th overall pick in April’s draft.
Here’s Mike Florio’s take, from PFT:
Wow.
A second-round pick, for a guy who merited a $14.65 million, one-year contract based on his play in 2008.
Let’s consider that for a second. Daunte Culpepper with blown-out knee was traded for a second-round pick. A.J. Feeley was traded for a second-round pick.
So, with all due apologies to the Patriots, the current score is Pioli 1, Pats 0.
Absolutely amazing. Like Peter King said.
Pioli 1 Pats 0
February 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pmOk, now I am REALLY concerned about this Cassel thing. If he was soooo important they had to tag him then why did they ONLY get a #2 and have to give up Vrabel? Something is a little fishy to me, sorry. Now Adam will NEVER shut up!!! Hope this works out. We BETTER get an OL with the #3 now. Otherwise Cassel will be on his back more here than he was in NE, 40 some times I beleive.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:52 pmMy thoughts exactly, VRod… what’s the catch?
February 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pmWe need to sign OL. The only thing that is fishy is that Belichick had to trade Cassel with that contract and he sent him to his best fried.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm“Let’s consider that for a second. Daunte Culpepper with blown-out knee was traded for a second-round pick. A.J. Feeley was traded for a second-round pick.
So, with all due apologies to the Patriots, the current score is Pioli 1, Pats 0.”
We have our QB and defensive leader for a 2nd rounder. People be HAPPY!
February 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pmThis is a tremendous deal if that is all we gave up. It makes sense though……….The Patriots needed cap space and we freed up about $18 million by taking those two contracts. You see all the time in the NBA trades made with the intent of clearing cap space. This looks like one of those deals. This is a win-win. We get a young QB and a veteran linebacker to mentor our younger players. The Patriots get the 34th pick and tons of cap space.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:58 pmwow
February 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pmthat Pioli Kool-aid is getting real sweet.
This is fucking ridiculous. I have been an advocate for not drafting a QB at #3 and against sending a first rounder for Cassel but I will say that this is a ridiculous deal we got from the Pats. This is apparently a “hey thanks for everything you did for us” trade. A second rounder for a QB and LB thats a steal people.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pmI hope Matty C can scramble like Pigpen
February 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pmwe go OL now?
February 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmIs it Kraft not wanting to pay that much for Bradys backup? Maybe he heals faster as a married man….
Now which one of our QBs are we shipping out? Croyle or Gray?
February 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmbtw, just to let you know I will be doing a Royals live blog today in an hour (2pm) on our new Royals blog:
http://royaleswithcheese.com/2009/02/28/padres-royals-live-blog/
I will also talk some Chiefs too (I have too!!!)
February 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmThis is awesome! I told you guys you would like the master plan! The Pats must be comfortable with that OConnell kid or whomever they drafted last year as a back up. This probably means Rudy is playing center again though. I thought Wade did an okay job too though. You know whose got to be happy… DJ. Potentially getting to play with Curry and Vrabel.. no more excuses DJ!
February 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pmIf NE didnt tag him, they would not have got the 2nd. Also when they did it Bradys knee was in question. Now that Tom shot his mouth off saying he is okay, everyone knew there was a problem in NE. They had WAY too much money tied up in the QB slot. Like they where saying on the NFL network, this opens up $20 million in cap space.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pmAbsolutely brilliant.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pmThis is a very happy day for us. I’m not saying we shouldn’t be skeptical, but we have our QB of the future who has already shown what he can do and don’t have to roll the dice on the overrated QB prospects in this years draft with our third pick. Now, its OT or Curry with that pick. Since it’s a deep draft at the tackle spot, I think Curry will win out and snag a solid RT at the top of the third.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:15 pmNo PFT is saying the bucs might be interested in trading for Thigpen. What a day.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:17 pmIf we could get a draft pick for Thiggy that’d be something since the Chiefs picked him up off waivers didn’t they?
One more thought, do you think that Pioli is counting on getting that 2nd rounder back by trading TG?
February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pmI hope Curry is still there at 3. I’d rather get OL in the later rounds or FA.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pmWow, first I wanted Haley, check, then I wanted Cassell, check, bring on Curry to complete our Linebacking corps, future check. Last thing on my list is a DE and at least one more OL, if that happens and we retain Tony G, we’re in business. Those fraiders better be wetting themselves right now. We didn’t even have to give up a first round pick, that’s amazing, as said before, IN PIOLI I TRUST.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pmjust heard tampa may trade for thiggy..they just said that on nflnetwork
February 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pmIf we don’t jump on a Tuasher, a RG, and TJ Cassel wont be anything behind out line. IF we traded Tony G in this package I will s**t my pants. This would be the worst trade ever. Now if we trade Tony G outside this for lets say a 2nd then thats fantastic. So we could pick up Curry and Herman Johnson or Unger in the 1st and 2nd. Of course if we get Tj if not Crabtree will be a Chief.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pmHey you fans have any room for an ex-patriots fan on that train of your’s? I’m waiting till I know 100% of the deal but if KC gets Vrabel/Cassel and only gives up their 2nd pk this year, I’m pissed, lol! I’d of taken their rd pk (3) in a heartbeat them NE cld of traded that for more. Not happy with this even though it clears up about 18-20 million of cap space for the Pats!
February 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pmwr harrison, toomer, coles, all are free agents any one of those will do in kc. i would think if tony was in this trade that we would of known by now.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:44 pmThis is an amazing deal we get 2 players for one draft pick and not our top pick either. Vrabel still has stuff to offer for our young guys and a winning attitude and ill take Cassel over any of this years QB’s. I was afraid we’d have to give too much but after hearing this im relieved.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:46 pmIf Curry is there at #3 than that is a no brainer. But really its win win. If hes not then we get one of the top two OL. We are on the way to a Dolphins type turn around and I for one am fucking excited!
February 28th, 2009 at 1:47 pmSorry if there was confusion. TG is NOT in the deal. Right now its only being reported as a 2nd rounder. I was just wondering if TG might be traded in another deal? TG has got to be happy with these moves though.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pmWell I am hoping TG is happy and everybody underbids like last year. I love this deal and just pray that MC is not another Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchel
February 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pmAdam are you going to be ok with us passing on Dirty Sanchez now…I’ll get you a tissue.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:59 pmIm just spitballing here…but what if we took crabtree in the draft now?
I mean im all for the Curry deal and/or trade down for Maliuluga and a 2nd.
but…
Cassel throwing to Crabtree, Bowe, Bradley, Tony G.
It opens up some interesting possibilites
It would kinda turn us into a mini Patriots/Cardinals offense that spreads that defense.
And if we keep LJ and the rest of the running backs…
thunder and lighthing you know?
I dunno, I’m just spitballing.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pmGood day chief addicts. Just a thought on giving up only a 2nd rounder for Cassel. Pats are all about #’s
February 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pmI haven’t seen where they sit in this draft, but hear me out. They will have late 1st round, early 2nd round and late 2nd. That should yield some very solid picks. Pats are looking for youth. They don’t like to pay first round money. I think they did ok. The pressure is on us. Is the incoming qb a one year wonder, or a legitimate contender. The good news is he will be taught by a qb guru. I like the trade. I like the attitude. Tony G are you ready.
It’s a bit ironic we ended up with Cassel after one of our players, Pollard, knocked Brady out last season and gave Cassel the chance to finally play.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pmMaster Blaster I like where your head is. If we pick up Canty or a number of quality players on D I could actually see us doing that. One thing I’m keeping an eye on is Tampa Bay bringing in Cooper Carlisle. They have a ton of quality interior linemen so why would they do this? Maybe b/c they want Thigpen? They bring in Carlisle and trade a mid to late rounder and or an interior linemen for Thigpen. Just a thought.
I dont think we are close to being done. Maybe we do talk to R. Lewis or Canty or Housh. How sick would this be… DL: Canty, Dorsey, ?, Hali. LB: DJ, Curry, R. Lewis/Mike Peterson, Vrabel. DB: Flowers, Carr, Leggett, Page, Pollard.
Crabtree with the #3 only if we shore up the D first.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:21 pmI’d try to get Philly’s 2 late 1st rounders for our #3, and draft 1 of the 3 USC linebackers (Maualauga, Cushing, Matthews) and the center from California (Alex Mack). We get 4 instant starters with the first 2 picks.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:36 pmGood thinkin Baldy. We need to shore up the D.
but…
I think it might be a good idea to keep Pigpen. He would be an awesome proven #2 QB. He plays in a similar style to Cassel. And as seasons go…Brady/Pollard…a solid backup QB can be a real necessity for a playoff level team.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:36 pmAbsolutely I completely agree MB. I’m just saying with all the rumors going around I could see that being a possibility. Personally I’d like to keep him. If we could get that deal done with Philly it would be a dream come true. I’d love to have Mualuaga. But I’d rather take Hakeem Nicks with the other instead of a center.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pmI’m with you MasterBlaster. I don’t really want Thiggy to go. Only if we get a damn good deal for him I guess.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pm