Smart Things?

First of all, Pioli absolutely made the right move by not even speaking to Waters. How would it look if Pioli pulled rank on his head coach the first time there was a player confrentation? He is sending the right message.

Second, I have felt that Waters' ego swelled a little too big after he got that "C" on his jersey. Nothing pisses me off more than a sense of entitlement, whether we are talking sports or politics (for everybody's sake I'll stick to sports). I like Waters, I just hope he wakes up and realizes he is a Gaurd, his opinion doesn't really matter.

Third, should we really be surprized that Hailey made an off the cuff remark. Could it have been done more respectfully? Absolutely! Suck it up and move on. This is pro football. I am sure most of us say some stupid things when we crazy busy and stressed.

This seems like a hatchet piece from a member of the press probably because the press has no more free access to Arrowhead. To be given any true weight, the story would have to quote both sides of the conversation. It does not. It is typical of agenda 'reporting' that seems so common in the press these days.

If the gist of the story is true, I side with Haley. He, not the player(s), needs to be the one in control of the team to get us away from the culture of losing.

Oh, and VROD: Are you sure BW had a meeting with Pioli? Or did he have a meeting with Haley and then just assume he could sit down and have a chat with the big boss?

"Before you jump to defend Pioli, ask yourself honestly. If Carl Peterson acted this way, what would you be saying?"

I tell you what I say: Scott Pioli is not Carl Peterson - and I'm THANKFUL for that. It's about time that Arrowhead isn't run like the Mickey Mouse club anymore.

I'm going to re-post what I wrote at 7:30 this morning (this time without the grammatical errors). Sorry if you read it already.

A few things:
1. Waters has never worked for a healthy orgainization, so he has no right to give input at this stage of the game. He flew to KC specifically to talk to the bosses? Well, apparently he didn’t bother to schedule a meeting first. He just assumed these guys would have to drop everything to meet with him. Who’s arrogant?

2. These 3 are trying to change an entire culture. In order to make that change they must first be fully in charge. Not sort-of in charge. Not in-charge as far as the veteran players will allow. Fully in charge.

3. We all wanted a player, while playing, to have to be a bit worried about what his coach would say to him based on his play–-chew his tail for mistakes, hold him accountable, etc. A coach can’t be the boss of some and a colleague of others. It’s one way or the other. And it’s pretty clear that Pioli is the boss right now and Haley will be the boss on the field, and they have each other’s back when it’s the other guys turn to be boss.

4. Finally, I think THIS is exactly what Pioli talked about when he said that turning this franchise around would take a while. It’s not that he doesn’t understand teams can go from bad to good in a short time. Organization and cultures don’t work that way. This may take a while and they will have to offend some guys who are used to the old way of doing things. But the only way to install accountability is to just do it.

We must operate different than NE. We were 2-14, so Pioli shouldn't sit on a high horse yet

Pioli and Haley are as highly regarded as they come. Why the hell do they have to tell Waters their plan? Last time I checked, Clark Hunt, not Waters, owned the Chiefs. And, yes, we are only getting Waters' and Whitlock's stories right now.

I side with The Pioli Trilogy on this one. B-Dub, I'll tell you the same thing I told L.J. Get on board, or get the eff out. I love ya, big man, but you were the arrogant one here. How about they do their jobs, and you do yours.

Also, how many of us would still have a job if we showed up and demanded a meeting with our new boss? Especially if our company had recently performed poorly?

I think you are giving Pioli too much credit Saleaumua. BB had his hand in all the players and it would have been him they were probably talking to.

Pioli will decide if it is him and Haley and players need to know who ever they are that there is change.

My question is: Would Pioli treat Tedy Bruschi the same way? I'm guessing he wouldn't, even if Tedy showed up unannounced he would probably treat him with respect. Well news flash to Pioli...Waters is OUR Bruschi. Now I'm not saying that Pioli wouldn't have released Bruschi if it made sense for the Patriots but I'm saying that Pioli would have treated a highly respected member of the team with some class.

Thank you for being a voice of reason and sanity Merlin. Too many people have become sheeps when it comes to Pioli. Anything he does they will blindly follow without looking at it with a critical eye.

How much of this is sour grapes from Whitlock, because he can't get a story out of Haley and Pioli. They keep everything quiet and he has nothing to say so let's start this.

Haley might be the flavor of the month, but yes flavor is good.

Why would they tell Waters their plans? He's not management or personnel. The way Pioli is running the show is to keep as little information out there as possible ummm maybe like the Patriots do??? It seemed to work for them so ill take Pioli's side on this.

Oops. Should have been there NOT their. Damn college classes aren't working either!!!

You're using Jason Whitlock as a factual, unbiased reference here. I am not impressed.

Yeah, but if you schedule a meeting and then when your appointment get's their and you refuse to meet with them, THAT IS CLASSLESS AND VERY BAD FOR BUSINESS!!!

Please! Stop it. Did Waters call ahead and schedule that meeting with the two busiest people at Arrowhead? The arrogance of Waters is the problem: "I am here for you to tell me what your plan is". Laughable. How about this: Shut up and play; oh and perform too! Waters was part of a 2-14 team not Pioli and Haley.

Stop coddling the players. What has that got us over the last couple of regimes? I am for whatever it takes to win, and if that means tightening the leash on these over paid primadonnas then freaking do it!!!!

I'm not real thrilled with either side, BW for showing up for a open door policy that apparently not there and Haley for being a Parcells prick... oops, did I slip a say that? Don't get me wrong, I like Haley and I like most of his moves so far, I just don't like that "JUST DO WHAT I SAY" attitude they display....
BTW, I didn't dogpile Adam....