AA Greeting: The After Party

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Sometimes you have to go to great lengths to make sure a message registers, I suppose. Following up on that message, here’s a quote I heard today from Mel Kiper that I couldn’t agree with more:

This notion that you are going to find Tom Brady or Matt Cassel late — good luck. That’s catching lightening in a bottle.

Even for Scott Pioli, the football executive who helped discover those two quarterbacks, the odds against him pulling that off again are astronomical. 10:1 at best, I’d say, if not 50:1. Besides, we think Pioli discovered these guys, but who really knows what went down behind closed doors. It could have been all Pioli. It could have been all Bill Belichick. It could have all been some maestro of a quarterback scout we’re paying no attention to.

We’re rebuilding our franchise. Period. Anyone who argues that is stuck in a state of denial. Any rebuilding effort that’s worth a damn in the NFL starts with a QB.

I keep hearing this “defense wins championships” stuff ad nauseum. Well, if that’s true, then why was it the Steelers’ offense who bailed out its defense in the Big Game? If that’s true, then why have the past four Super Bowl winners been led by a first-round quarterback? If that’s true, then why have the past three Super Bowl winners featured at least one former first-round wide receiver (the Colts had two)?

All of those points are important ones to keep in mind. But the most important one is the first-round quarterback point. Defense wins championships? Maybe, but first-round and franchise quarterbacks definitely win championships.

Over the past six years, you have three first-round quarterbacks and possibly a guy who’s on his way to becoming the best QB of all time, Tom Brady. With the recent rule changes that benefit receivers and in an indirect way QBs (You know, the rule changes that were a direct result of that Colts-Patriots game where Ty Law was reenacting The Deliverance “squeal like a pig scene” on Marvin Harrison), quarterbacks have never been more valuable than they are today. NFL players are also just so big, fast, strong and physical nowadays that the NFL feature back is becoming a dinosaur. A dodo bird. A Siberian tiger. It’s almost an extinct breed, folks. I’ve just figured that out in the past year. The NFL is a passing league now.

The aforementioned reasons are why I believe that we aren’t destined to see another Trent Dilfer any time soon.

That being said, we have to find a quarterback. Again, I don’t believe that Tyler Thigpen is that guy. I would like to see us either bring in A.) Matt Cassel via trade (or even Matt Leinart); or B.) Mark Sanchez via draft, and a veteren guy to allow us to bring Sanchez along at the proper pace. Thigpen could compete with said placeholder QB for the temprorary starting gig in scenario B.

Do I have a stiffy for skill players? Yes, in the top five, I do. I want a quarterback who can put together game-winning drives like Ben Roethlisberger or John Elway at that spot. I want a wide receiver who can haul in game-winning grabs like Larry Fitzgerald or pre-gun Plaxico Burress. I want a pass rusher who can take over down the stretch like Derrick Thomas and Jared Allen used to. I want an offensive tackle who can dominate for a decade like Orlando Pace.

What I do not want is a middle linebacker who had less than 10 sacks in four years of college ball. What I do not want is a defacto No. 1 tackle like Jason Smith, who looks like a poor man’s Jake Long or Joe Thomas right now at best. I mean, I watched Baylor play some this year and never really even noticed him. Additionally, there will be good ILBs and OTs available in both free agency and at No. 34. You cannot say the same thing when it comes to quarterbacks, and maybe even receivers with Darrius Heyward-Bey and Percy Harvin ascending up draft charts. Hell, I’m much more inclined to look at someone like Brian Orakpo or Everette Brown at No. 3 than I am Aaron Curry or an OT.

As for Cassel, he would only cost us two first-rounders if we matched the Pats offer and they let him walk. That’s not going to happen. I think something like the No. 34 pick and Larry Johnson would really work for them. As Peter King and others have said, I don’t think the Pats will have a lot of other suitors that want to work with them. They will be willing to work with Scott Pioli and vice versa. As for the money, yeah, a quarterback who’s playing like a franchise quarterback deserves first-round quarterback money. A middle linebacker is never worth that kind of money if you ask me. Maybe Mike Singletary or Ray Lewis in their prime. Can you guarantee that Curry is the second coming of Ray-Ray? I don’t think anybody can.

Can I guarantee that Cassel or Sanchez will be the next Ben Roethlisberger? No. I can’t. But I’d rather whiff on a franchise QB with the No. 3 pick than a middle linebacker. A franchise QB can win you a Super Bowl. How many franchise middle backers have done so? Ray-Ray and Singletary, sure, but not very many others, if any. How many franchise QBs have delivered Lombardi trophies? Lots. In fact, the last time we had a franchise quarterback was the last time we won one. If we can bypass burning the No. 3 pick or a first-rounder altogether to get Cassel, even better. Paying him first-round money without burning a first-rounder minimizes the gamble.

About Lance Moore, it would be a 2010 second-rounder and I happen to think he’s worth it. His contract could potentially be a steal. If we could get Matt Cassel and Lance Moore without giving up a first-rounder, I would have no problem with us surrendering two seconds. I would also have no problem with us going pass rusher at No. 3 instead of Michael Crabtree or Sanchez. We will address middle linebacker through free agency. I totally think we will. Offensive line as well.

As for all the comments about Cassel and Ryan trading places with Tyler Thigpen and faring the same, c’mon, gimme a break. Cassel walked into a ton of pressure in the best division in football and won 10 more games than Thigpen, who played in the worst division in football. Ryan also won 10 more games than Thigpen in a competitive division, despite his Falcons having the exact same 2007 record as our Chiefs. The homerism for this Thigpen guy is off the charts right now. I can’t even reason with some of you folks.

My free agency Blueprint is next on my agenda (and I’m hoping to have Wonderlic scores by then — very, very important). For now, in addition to Bart Scott, Chris Canty and Khalif Barnes, remember two names: 1.) DE Antonio Smith, who I have not written about, and has the obvoius Cardinals connections; 2.) C/G Jason Brown, who I have written about in earlier Blueprints.

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Sorry I was talking free agent not trade with Haynesworth.

It doesn't seem very realistic that there would be interdivision trading going on especially woth the Raiders. No one wants to help the other get better. I do hope he is able to trade down though and stock pile picks.

I hope we stay away from Haynesworth, because he won't be worth the money in a trade. I like the LJ deals for a QB, but how about to the Browns for Rogers?

We are starting to have a probelm, and we haven’t even started in FA yet. Where are we at LB….Andra Davis or Vilma. I think we have to trade down and up this year.
Sign At any cost Haynesworth DT,Chris Canty DE and Lance Moore WR. Also an OG

As mentioned before send Al #3 and get his #7,#40. Send that #7 to Philly for their #21,#28. Send #21 & #131 to Indy for their #27 & #92

Send LJ , Brodie and #98 + as high (Cond) as a third next year to Green Bay for Brian Brohm QB

#27 OLB Larry English-N. Illionis
#28 OT Eben Britton-U Conn
#34 OC Max Unger-Oregon
#40 OLB Clay Matthews-USC
#67 RB Rashad Jennings-Liberty
#92 LB Gerald McGrath-S.Miss
#162 RB Glenn Coffee-Alabama
#194 LB Josh Mauga-Nevada

***5 probable starters*** + Brohm QB to compete.
Many believe these trades are impossible however I will explain. Oakland jumps up to get Crabtree before Seattle. Philly jumps up to get a elite OT, I believe Owen Daniels TE will sign in Philly-this allows them to do this trade. Indy jumps up to take an elite receiver.
Front Seven=LDE Canty,DT Haynesworth,RDE Tank/Dorsey
LOLB-T. Hali
LILB-C. Matthews
RILB-D. Johnson
ROLB-L. English

If we were to get Canty and Haynesworth, I would try to trade Dorsey for a late 1st-maybe Atlanta for their #24, then take WR Bey or Harvin.

We are starting to have a probelm, and we haven't even started in FA yet. Where are we at LB....Andra Davis or Vilma. I think we have to trade down and up this year.
Sign At any cost Haynesworth DT,Chris Canty DE and Lance Moore WR. Also an OG

As mentioned before send Al #3 and get his #7,#40. Send that #7 to Philly for their #21,#28. Send #21 & #131 to Indy for their #27 & #92

Send LJ and #98 + as high (Cond) as a second next year to Green Bay for Brian Brohm QB

#27 OLB Larry English-N. Illionis
#28 OT Eben Britton-U Conn
#33 OC Max Unger-Oregon
#34 DE Michael Johnson-Georgia Tech
#40 OLB Clay Matthews-USC
#67 RB Rashad Jennings-Liberty
#92 LB Gerald McGrath-S.Miss
#98
#162 RB Glenn Coffee-Alabama
#194 LB Josh Mauga-Nevada

Well said Gump

Screw Cassell we want a Tom Brady!

Wouldn't this really be like a third or fourth chance for LJ. Vermiel didn't say what he did for no reason. LJ needs to cowboy up, shut up and run.

Neither Sanchez or Stafford are worth the #3 pick. Definitely need to get a franchise QB and I don't think for a minute that Thiggy smalls is it, but next years QB class is much more promising and we are in this for the long haul. Fix the lines O and D and LB positions. Put all the fundamental building blocks in place and we can get a more promising QB prospect next year when we can protect him and get the ball back in his hands.

because its difficult to wipe saliva and gin from 1 million + faces. We are a forgiving crowd though. If he starts acting more like Waters, apologizes stays straight, stops wearing cleavage shirts and produces on the field we will.

20. You're absolutely correct.
36. Correct about Carr and Harrington. Any qb will look much worse behind a line that can't protect and can't run.
41. Do you honestly think that the Chiefs are one great QB away from being unstoppable?

Adam, Jason Smith is far from the consensus #1 OT in the draft. Before Andre Smith crapped the bed, I think either Smith or Monroe was the number one choice. I'm a little leery of Monroe's knee and Smith has totally discredited himself. My personal favorite is Oher.

Other than that, I'm with you on staying away from Curry. The Chiefs have to find a way to a) protect their QB and b) attack the other team's QB. Curry does not do much for either goal.

So what if L.J is on the team next year! Are you telling me if he scores a touchdown , the arrowhead faithful won't cheer? Not me . If I'm at the game and L.J breaks off a 40,50,or60 yard run and hits paydirt I'm jumping out of my freaking shoes!!! I don't think we'll be hearing any crickets chirping. He's still a CHIEF dammit! Haley's wiping the slate clean, why can't we? Everybody deserves a second chance, so let's give him one.

We would could draft:
#20 Heyward-Bey WR
#33 Michael Johnson DE
#34 Max Unger C
#40 Clay Matthews LB

49........anyone. I want to trade down with Oakland to #7,then you can trade down with Detriot get their #20,#33. Throw LJ in who cares.

Some people have voiced concerns about currys sack numbers(or lack there of) but its my understanding that he was not used in a blitzing scheme. I havent seen any games of Wake Forest so i cant say first hand but that is something i have read/heard. But after looking at his college stats he made quite a few tackles for loss and had a good amount of INT's for a LB.

If a 2nd rounder and LJ wouldnt be enough for Cassel, if thats where we're going, than how bout switching firsts this year a 2nd next year and LJ??

Ladies and Gentlemen, For your entertainment I present this notion. LJ is not going anywhere. I know he wants out, but I'm not sure he will go. When they brought Carthon, that's when I began to see the light. I know a lot of folks here are anti LJ, but he is a beast. I personally like the guy. This is not Peterson land anymore. These folks are serious business. A great running back is still highly valued. I may be wrong, but as the Beatles used to sing "I got a Feeling... Forget qb at 3 ain't going to happen. I could see a drop down for more picks. Go Chiefs

I just listened to the piece that you quoted where Kiper says "This notion that you are going to find Tom Brady or Matt Cassel late — good luck. That’s catching lightening in a bottle."

Kiper may have been on board with the pick, but McShay was pretty outspoken about what he would do.
Did you listen any further into that conversation? McShay says he would much rather take Drew Stanton in the 5th round than dump everything on a rookie QB without the supporting pieces. Kiper asked him if Sanchez was a good pick for KC at 3. "People who think KC is drafting a QB are not doing their homework."

It is a really interesting discussion though. Enjoyed listening.

Interesting piece of info. Fred Taylor (a stand up guy) wants to play for a Superbowl team and is schedule to meet with the Patsies this week. Whatever leverage we may have had with NE regarding Cassell for picks and LJ might be getting a little weaker.

"You have to hit a home run with the number three pick"

Boy ain't that the truth!

That is why the last two number ones of the 07/08 drafts have been OTs. 75% sucess rate. Too much pressure to make a mistake.

Pioli will try everything to trade out of the number three pick, even if we do not get great value for it. (I doubt there will be any interest though).

My prediction we end up taking Crabtree.

I agree with Adam that a QB is most important, however, I do not believe that Sanchez and Stafford merit the top three pick. They have alot of question marks.

It appears that only Eugene Monroe and Crabtree have little question marks (Crabtree played with that stress fracture, and it is not a career ending injury, as I understand it). They appear to be the safest prospects at number three.

BTW: Curry's sack totals are not impressive in my opinion too.

GO CHIEFS

just a thought, but wouldn't cassel be just as much a question mark at qb as thiggy. cassel played one year in an outstanding system that i am convinced anyone could succeed in. I am starting to think we really need to give LJ a second chance and if he can keep him mouth shut and open his eyes to see how much he was liked in KC then maybe he will run like he should have been for the last three years. Thiggy and LJ in the backfield last year looked decent. I am starting to see a better idea in going after that playmaker on d-fence to help solidify what last year showed signs or helping the team win, though it was only occationally. I don't think we need to go to a full on spread offence to get thiggy to be good, that was just what was easy to use when he got thrown in to a starting role because we have a band-aid for what was supposed to be out "franchise" qb in croyle. I think given a full training camp and a line that can give him time, thigpen could become a decent pocket passer with the ability to scramble for time to let the wr get open. Bowe should do nothing but lotion his hands from now til opening day to soften them up and tony g needs to stay. The only other actual possibility that would make sence is to get McNabb from philly. I cannot figure what he really wants on offence though and i am not sure we have it any more than philly does. I think we need d in fa and o-line in draft but curry is starting to grow on me.

I would much rather trade for Cassel than take Sanchez at 3. I think Cassel could be pretty good but Im not sure. as for Sanchez. I'm just not sold on him and i don't think I will be on draft day either. We need to take Curry or Best available OL or find a way to trade down (not likely)It's all a toss up anyway. who knows Sanchez could be the pick and turn out to be a hell of a quarterback, and i would come on here saying i was wrong, but nobody knows

ok everything looks ok so for but woody come on if we got tom brady there would be no stopping the chiefs how many games last year did we lose by one score. Both of the San Diego games broke my heart how do you lose to a team by one point twice in one year. QB put some points up there get Bowe and Gonzo the ball instead of having a subpar qb at the helm

The Lions have a young promising rb in Kevin Smith. They wouldn't want LJ.

Does anyone really think Video Bill Belichick is going to let the Chiefs have Cassel for a 2nd round pick + LJ, when he knows KC will probably cut LJ anyway? Yes, he used to work with Pioli, but now he works against him. He ain't into giving people Christmas presents. Basically that would mean giving up a 2nd round pick + nothing. Belichick is going to make someone GIVE to get Cassel. 2nd RD + LJ for Cassel is wishful thinking isn't it?

I think he's worth paying for. I'd give 2nd rounder + LJ + another pick (next year's 4th?), then go either Curry or OL at #3.

Guess the folks over at arrowheadpride don't agree with Adam and 447's assessment of Tyler not being an under the center QB either.

"But the Chiefs don't really have any other "spread" type players to facilitate a full blown transition to a full Pistol offense, or at least to running the Pistol 10-15 times a game.Tyler Thigpen appears to have a good combination of skills to run the spread but the nice thing is he can also line up under center and still play just like a normal QB.

Any chance this post hits 50+ as well?

I agree that QB is the most important position on the field, for the offense. I disagree that you START a team rebuilding with a QB. Two cases why: Joey Harrington and David Carr. They, IMO, were a lot like Stafford and Sanchez in that they had all the skills and look what happened, the teams that drafted them did nothing with their OL and both got so battered and bruised and gun shy they turned into crap. That is my SOLE reason for not picking up a QB at the #3 slot. If THE TRUST can get a stud OL with #3 take it. If not you have to take the BPA and, assuming the Rams or Lions pass on him, Curry is that guy at #3. I do have to agree with whomever wrote, "we can't know what we need in the draft until FA starts". Give FA a month and I think our team will have a MUCH better mix on the OL and DL. That may then free us up to take a QB, LB, WR at the #3 slot. The ENTIRE draft depends on THE TRUST being able to get what we NEED out of FA. Does anyone disagree with that?

Ah hell, guess I've got more than "one more point" to make.

I am now of the opinion that Heyward-Bey will be long gone by the time the 2nd round rolls around. Most likely will see pretty good options for C and OG however. May also see Freeman there as well. Ideal round 2 selection for Chiefs would be pass-rushing DE/LB tweener.

Third round, take best available C or OG. Call me crazy but I started to see something with D-Mac at RT in the second half of the season. I have a good feeling about him staying put.

I think I've got the best trade scenario of all. We exchange LJ along with our #3 pick for the Lions #1 pick. That way, we guarantee the Rams don't steal Curry out from under us.

If Thiggy stinks it up, we end up with Curry and another high draft pick next year.

Curry > Singletary > Lewis

Adam, glad to see you've come around to my POV on the declining need for feature backs. In the right offense, Battle can deliver LJ-style poundings when needed.

11 out of 12.

One more point. Even if we do go to a 3-4 (of which I am highly skeptical), I highly doubt we would immediately implement it. What we would be looking at is a minimum 2 year transition. Curry provides us the perfect versatility and leadership to accomodate that. Sanchez and Cassel do not.

Sanchez = Cassel = Thigpen + extra zeros after the dollar sign.

Curry = Maualuga + Laurinaitis in 3-4 and/or explosive SLB + team captain in 4-3 = more bang for the buck.

That would be an excellent deal for the Lions. They get a big back and can still get one of the top OL, follow that up with Dirty or Stafford with #20. Or vice versa. This would loosen up even more cap room. I like this deal alot. HMMM

Again, Adam you need to post and not wait to write more. I for one like the instant gratification of feedback. Not gonna get it huh?

Mr. Adam, I understand your love for qb's. They are the stuff championships are made. The question is. Are the qb's in this draft worth a first round pick? I am of the opinion they are not. I not saying Curry is the right choice at 3, but qb is not. Remember with out a defense the offense does not get the opportunity to win games on the final drive. Let us build from the inside out, not the reverse. Keep up the good work Adam.

As for our QB issues, if we are able to get cassle for a 2nd and Larry Johnson do it. Whatever Pioli does in this situation is a tell in what cassle is really like. I just know if Larry goes to the Patriots though he'll break every rushing record there is

Trent Green didn't need first-round talent to give us the #1 NFL offense for 2 years, so I think Crabtree would be a bad pick at #3. I wouldn't mind Sanchez at #3. You can have as many tools as you want at WR, but if the QB can't deliver, it doesn't matter. Sorry Dallas Cowboys ... heh ...

schmuck
one could even argue that there are only 4 franchise guys on there with Manning,Rivers,Roethlisberger and Palmer. Obviously Cutler Ryan and Flacco have shown promise, Cutler being the most deserving of the Franchise Label, but Flacco and Ryan have had only one year, albeit pretty damn good years for rookies, lets let them do it for 2-3 more years

Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Jason Campbell, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, J.P. Lossman, Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, Michael Vick, Chad Pennington.

These are all the 1st rnd QBs drafted since 2000.
22 QBs drafted
11 Current Starters
3 Super Bowl Rings
1 Stay in Leavenworth

My point is it's a toss-up, so the LET'S CHOOSE A QB LET'S CHOOSE A QB thing needs to chill out a little. Seriously. There's as good a chance that if we were to select a QB that he would turn out to be a bum that does nothing, as there is that he'd be a franchise QB. Actually let's count how many of these guys are "franchise" QBs.

My count says 6. 6 out of 22. Judging by this decades history, we have a 27% chance of our assumed 1st round QB becoming a "franchis" QB.

In Pioli we trust
With number 3, we need to hit a homerun. We can have our opinions, but heck, I've never met any of these guys. We need inside and outside linebackers most at this point in order to field a descent team. We have passable talent at QB. The concern with drafting QB at number three is that none of them may be worth a darn. Maybe one is, which one? If Pioli knows that, then we'll draft him. As far as Cassell, I'm not sold, but if anyone knows wether or not he is worth it, it's Pioli. Until the trigger is pulled on that deal, think OL and defense. If we do get a QB at some point, we don't want him getting killed and we don't want him losing games when he's doing his part. If we did want that, we could just keep the team we have as is.

Chiefs are now over 40 million under the cap, with today's cuts.

I just read that we now only have six guys on our team over the age of 30. Crazy.

Hey vbchief .... I had to join this site because I totally agree & laughed out loud after reading your post .... lets let some people with some recent success do their dang job before going nuts ... another Herm Quote: "Its Okay... Hunt, Pioli & Haley play to WIN the GAME" .. :) I think it will be fun to sit back and watch it unfold ... great college info you guys... super site!!!

If anything we are one of the top teams that needs to add picks. Below is an example of players missed, due to CARL and just giving away picks!!!
2001 no 1st- Marcus Stroud DT, Casey Hampton DT
2001 no 2nd- Matt Light OT
2004 no 1st- Karlos Dansby (we jumped right over him)
2005 no 2nd-Khalif Barnes OL

I want to trade down twice, to #7 (crabtree) then to #20 (Detriot would take it)

We would have #20,33,34,40-that would build a team

dude I live in virginia beach, VA. and I love reading arrowhead addict and arrowhead pride like its all that matters in my life. But WTF!!! We hiore Scott Pioli and every body is like HOLY PIOLI!! Then we hire Todd Haley, and all of the sudden we just won the freaken superbowl. let the people in charge do there jobs. There's NOTHING we can do about it! O.K. Hell let me quote Herm Edwards and say this " IT'S GONNA BE FINE"

Maybe I had too much to drink tonight?

Thats pretty solid Baldy. You start building your team now, as Brandon put it, with the most important position in the game; QB. Send the second and LJ over for Cassel. Sign Derrick Ward and draft Curry at 3. There is depth between the draft, FA, and our cap space... draft DL, LB, or OL... and so on. It can be a solid turn around.

At the risk of being mauled i totally agree with you. Go after Cassel if you have to give up first second and Larry. We need performance. I do have a Larry jersey but as of late i would much rather be wearing a Cassel. I would love to see the Chiefs make it past the first round of the playoffs sometime in my lifetime and that starts with the number one poition QB get over it people thats the only position we can't put on hold.

I disagree that you START your rebuilding with a QB...

You could trade for Tom Brady and we wouldnt be a good team next year...

The most common thing you hear from analysts every week is that it all starts up front...on the line....both sides...

You are wrong.

447: Are we competing for a championship? Seriously. Anyone with a pulse knows were not. But when should we start building one? In the third or fourth round or with the elite talent in this draft. All the QB's in this draft will be projects.

Screw it I'm on board. Lets draft Dirty with #3, send LJ and 2-2nd rounders to the Pats for Cassel. That way we have Matt for 6 yrs or so and we can groom Sanchez Aaron Rodgers style. Then in the 3rd round lets take a OLB b/c the difference between the 3rd round talent and top 1st round talent is the same. Meanwhile Haynesworth goes back to Tenn., Lewis to Dallas, Bart Scott signs back on with the Ravens, Crowder goes to the Jags or some shit. Jason Brown signs with god knows who. Barnes goes to the Bengals. Then what do we have two great QB's, a shaky line, no running game, no D line or LB's. No upgrades from the team we had this year other than two stellar QB's doing an elephant walk and tying up cap space. Oh and no 2nd round pick next year.

WTF people

Thanks, Baldy, on the Jason Smith thing -- corrected. Apparently the NFLN goofed on their videos. They had a white guy running the 40 with Jason Smith's name listed underneath a few days ago...lol...I really didn't ever notice him watching a little bit of Baylor play, though. Didn't even know he was black. That's not a good thing. He just must have not stood out at all. I definitely noticed Orakpo Robert Griffin.

Hueard really needed to get packing too

Defense wins championships. I believe that 100% but does anybody think we're competing for a championship in '09? Really? If you do, I need what you got cause it must be some kill shit. Quarterback people, Quarterback.

This is what Todd McShay had to say about Curry.

INDIANAPOLIS -- With Alabama OT Andre Smith's stock free falling, Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree finding out he has a stress fracture in his left foot and Georgia QB Matthew Stafford not throwing, we hadn't seen much from the elite prospects at the combine. That changed Monday, though, when Wake Forest OLB Aaron Curry looked every bit a top-five pick.

Curry finished with the fastest 40-yard dash time (4.56 seconds) and longest broad jump (10 feet, 4 inches) and tied with two other players for the best vertical jump (37 inches) among the linebackers. He also impressed with his work during drills, particularly one that's designed to simulate a linebacker shifting through traffic between the tackles.

In that drill, each prospect steps over a set of pads while sliding laterally in one direction, quickly reverses direction, slaps the pads with his hands as he shuffles back and then explodes through the cones to finish. It's important to be fluid and quick,and just as important to keep your eyes up because teams want to know whether you can locate the ball as you scrape down the line of scrimmage. Most prospects were seen peeking down at the pads, but Curry did an excellent job of keeping his eyes up. It's a small difference but an important one. And weighing in at 254 pounds and measuring 6-foot-1 made Curry's performance that much more impressive.

I wouldnt definitely take Moore over Heyward Bey for a second rounder. Come on. Actually I'd rather have Nicks if he falls...which he wont.