AADQ: NFL Combine

There isnt any one player that im curious to see but there is always one or two players that really do a great job and pop out at ya. as i recall last year my 2 favorites from last years combine were dominique rodgers cromarie and dustin keller. It wouldnt surprise me if the Ohio St boys(Jenkins,Wells,Laurinitis) ran away with this combine but we'll see

Until next year.

I know it was a joke. I wouldnt take any of them I have all my eggs in Pigpens basket.

Baldy,

Rivers was like #4 or something like that. The Chargers actually picked Eli, but he and his family stated Eli WOULD NOT play for the Chargers. So they traded NY for Rivers after he was drafted.

Uh... Philipe Rivers... Duh

Several years ago there was this guy, stocking shelves at the Hi-Vee, played some arena ball, NFL Europe, none of the scouts liked him when he came out of the University of Northern Iowa. He didn't even get to start there until his senior year. Since then he has been NFL MVP twice, owns the 3 biggest single game passing yards totals record in Superbowl history, 4th all time career passer rating, second most accurate passer in NFL history, oh, and he played in 3 SBs winning 1 of them.

What round was Tom Brady picked in? What round was Tony Romo picked in? David Garrard played for East Carolina University and was picked up in the 4th round. He's had 2 pretty good seasons back to back.

My point is that the bias exhibitted by the "World Wide Leader In Sports" influenced newsheads has scewed the picking of prospects. Look at the other side of it. How has Vince Young done so far? Vick was a number 1. Remember Davic Carr? How about Ryan Leaf? I think the Texans have gotten much better mileage out of Mario Williams at #1 in 06 than Reggie or Vince. But all the newsheads moaned the Texans were out of their minds.

Ever heard of Omar Jacobs? He was a Chief for a short minute, then we sent him to NFL Europe. He now plays indoors (arena) and won the AIFA Championship. He threw for over 3,000 yards, threw 208-362 for 56 TDs and 12 INTs, in an arena. In 2004 he set the record for the best touchdown-to-interception ratio in NCAA Division I-A history at...wait for it...at Bowling Green.

I just want to point out that in the 2004 draft Eli (Ol' Miss-SEC) was #1 and Big Ben (Miami OH-MAC) was #11. Which one would you want?

Well I'll shout at the wind here one last time. Did anybody (scouts, coaches, football fans) see the Sugarbowl? Alabama was No. 1 for most of the season and Utah flat out whooped them up and down the field. The QB Brian Johnson picked apart the 'Bama D like they were high school b-teamers. They did this in what amounted to 'Bama's back yard.

Johnson threw 3 TDs in the 1st quarter. The final score was 31-17. This was with Utah totalling 13 yards on the ground (1 TD). They stuffed 'Bama, scored fast and never looked back.

Johson is 26-7 for 56 TDs and 26 ints. In 2 seasons he became the schools all-time leader. But some newsheads are saying he's undersized at 6' 200lbs. Thats the same size as Drew Breez. Several boards have him going undrafted after leading his team to an undefeated season and an argueable piece of the National Championship.

Maybe I'm slow or dense, but aren't we going after smart, tough players? Sanchez has a decent year with a team overloaded with talent and he's a No.1? Stafford could barely beat Michigan State with Knowshon Moreno by his side. At 10-3 Georgia had to sneak into the Capital One Bowl. But somehow Stafford is a top 10 pick? They lost to Alabama, Florida and Georgia Tech. In three years he 51 TDs and 33 INTs.

I don't get it. But I do know there is alot of "big conference" bias against those MWC schools. Just ask Boise St. I'm not saying Johnson is Montana re-incarnated, but why the dis? The big newsheads in the sky must just hate the MWC, after the SEC bought and paid for the BCS I mean.

Yea but the combine cancels out all variables. Pro days can be "set up" to benefit the players.

Stafford will be at the combine. He just won't be throwing at it. I'm sure he will throw at his pro day and when he makes team visits.

It's rare - doubt it will happen.

Trades seem are hard to predict but those teams would qualify. It just seems like if you're drafting in the top five, you must have plenty of holes to fill, so can't you find somebody worth it to help your team? Trading out of the top five just doesn't make sense to me.

Or maybe the Jets or SF will trade up to get him?

I think it is a bummer that he won't be at the combine. I wanted to see how he would do. Its a bummer even more so now (since the Furrey article came out) because we may actually have a chance to draft him.

447 - why is that a bummer? You think we'll end up with Stafford or something?

"Sanchez, Curry, Brown"

Different ways to prepare rice?

It will be interesting to see what OT's separate themselves from the others in the interviews and tests. Also the individual drills will determine what order they all go in...

These are the guys that I am curious to see:
1. Curry
2. Monroe/J Smith
3. Brown/Orakpo/Maybin
4. Freeman

Have always like Curry. I think Monroe or Jason Smith would be the perfect tackle for us and let Albert move in or to the right side. I like those 3 ends and would like to see if one stands out. Freeman would be of interest to me if he would drop to a 2nd or even 3rd round and let him watch from the side for a while.

I have no doubt that Pioli will get the right person the make the Chiefs better now and in the future.

Sanchez, Curry, Brown

I will pay close attention to

1. Aaron Curry
2. Everett Brown
3. OLs (mostly Jason Smith)
4. Rhett Bomar

I thnk these guys should be our top 4 draft choices or at least positions if value is available.

The Wonderlic is an excellent measurement if you know what your looking for. We use it to assess potential hires and our expectations are different depending on the position to fill. It has worked very well and has been a very valuable piece of information for many years.

Sorry about all the posts, hope you're all not annoyed; but I find it interesting:

Wonderlic score does not guarantee success, but Pioli wants tough smart guys.

Just keep it in mind.

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TOP 84
http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm

Fitzpatrick, Ryan 2005 Harvard 50
Maas, Jason 1999 Oregon 43
Henson, Drew 2003 Michigan 42
Smith, Alex 2005 Utah 40
Rodgers, Aaron 2005 California 39
Manning, Eli 2004 Mississippi 39
Husak, Todd 2000 Stanford 39
Griese, Brian 1998 Michigan 39
Frye, Charlie 2005 Akron 38
Krenzel, Craig 2004 Ohio State 38
Bledsoe, Drew 1993 Wash. State 37
LeFors, Stefan 2005 Louisville 35
O'Sullivan, J.T. 2002 Calif.-Davis 35
Pate, Wes 2002 Stephen Austin 35
Kustok, Zak 2002 Northwestern 35
Brady, Tom 2000 Michigan 33
Young, Steve 1982 BYU 33
Adamson, Rob 2003 Mount Union 32
Harrington, Joey 2002 Oregon 32
Ramsey, Patrick 2002 Tulane 32
Rosenfels, Sage 2001 Iowa State 32
Palmer, Jesse 2001 Florida 32
Daft, Kevin 1999 Calif.-Davis 32
Walter, Andrew 2005 Arizona State 31
White, Jason 2005 Oklahoma 31
Ragone, Dave 2003 Louisville 31
Kingsbury, Kliff 2003 Texas Tech 31
Kittner, Kurt 2002 Illinois 31
Nall, Craig 2002 Northwestern St. 31
Coleman, Justin 2001 Neb.-Kearney 31
Mirer, Rick 1993 Notre Dame 31
Orlovsky, Dan 2005 Connecticut 30
Guidugli, Gino 2005 Cincinnati 30
Haldi, Joshua 2005 Northern Illinois 30
Rivers, Philip 2004 NC State 30
Schaub, Matt 2004 Virginia 30
Mauck, Matt 2004 LSU 30
Paus, Cory 2003 UCLA 30
Cobb, Daniel 2003 Auburn 30
Romo, Tony 2003 Eastern Illinois 30
McCown, Josh 2002 Sam Houston 30
Kennedy, Darnell 2002 Alabama State 30
Carter, Quincy 2001 Georgia 30
Heupel, Josh 2001 Oklahoma 30
Collins, Kerry 1995 Penn State 30
Klingler, David 1992 Houston 30
Grossman, Rex 2003 Florida 29
Weinke, Chris 2001 Florida State 29
Griggs, Shane 2001 Idaho State 29
Bulger, Marc 2000 West Virginia 29
Hasselbeck, Matt 1998 Boston College 29
Aikman, Troy 1989 UCLA 29
Campbell, Jason 2005 Auburn 28
Wood, Juston 2003 Portland State 28
Bollinger, Brooks 2003 Wisconsin 28
Burford, Seth 2002 Cal Poly 28
Godsey, George 2002 Georgia Tech 28
Brees, Drew 2001 Purdue 28
McNown, Cade 1999 UCLA 28
Orton, Kyle 2005 Purdue 27
Long, Dustin 2005 Sam Houston State 27
Farmer, Kirk 2003 Missouri 27
Boller, Kyle 2003 California 27
St. Pierre, Brian 2003 Boston College 27
Gesser, Jason 2003 Wash. State 27
Doman, Brandon 2002 BYU 27
Smith, Aaron 2002 Wagner 27
Smith, Jonathan 2002 Oregon State 27
McMahon, Mike 2001 Rutgers 27
Booty, Josh 2001 LSU 27
Rivers, David 2001 West. Carolina 27
Gannon, Rich 1987 Delaware 27
McPherson, Adrian 2005 Florida State 26
Chang, Timmy 2005 Hawaii 26
Rix, Chris 2005 Florida State 26
Lorenzen, Jared 2004 Kentucky 26
Fife, Jason 2004 Oregon 26
Palmer , Carson 2003 USC 26
Thomas, Jason 2003 UNLV 26
Appelwhite, Major 2002 Texas 26
Banks, Tony 1996 Michigan State 26
Dougherty, Ben 2005 Florida A&M 25
Roethlisberger, Ben 2004 Miami-OH 25
Harris, Josh 2004 Bowling Green 25

Bottom 35

Bishop, Michael 1999 Kansas State 10
George, Jeff 1990 Illinois 10
Roberson, Ell 2004 Kansas State 11
Miller, Romaro 2001 Mississippi 11
Martin, Tee 2000 Tennessee 11
Wallace, Seneca 2003 Iowa State 12
McNabb, Donovan 1999 Syracuse 12
Wachholtz, Kyle 1996 USC 12
Stewart, Kordell 1995 Colorado 12
Marshall, Rasheed 2005 West Virginia 13
Berlin, Brock 2005 Miami 13
Banks, Brad 2003 Iowa 13
O'Donnell, Neil 1990 Maryland 13
Losman, J.P. 2004 Tulane 14
Sorgi, Jim 2004 Wisconsin 14
Garrard, David 2002 East Carolina 14
Madkin, Wayne 2002 Miss. State 14
Jenkins, Oretege 2001 Arizona 14
Marino, Dan 1983 Pittsburgh 14
Smith, Akili 1999 Oregon 15
Culpepper, Daunte 1999 Central Fla. 15
McNair, Steve 1995 Alcorn State 15
Cunningham, Randall 1985 UNLV 15
Kenner, Deontey 2001 Cincinnati 16
Redman, Chris 2000 Louisville 16
Shuler, Heath 1994 Tennessee 16
Grbac, Elvis 1993 Michigan 16
Rutherford, Rod 2004 Pittsburgh 17
Davey, Rohan 2002 LSU 17
Randle El, Antwaan * 2002 Indiana 17
Dantzler, Woodrow * 2002 Clemson 17
Brooks, Aaron 1999 Virginia 17
Blake, Jeff 1992 East Carolina 17
Lemon, Cleo 2001 Ark. State 18
Lucas, Ray 1996 Rutgers 18

Wonderlic* Practice Questions Set 1

1. A physical education class has three times as many girls as boys. During a class basketball game, the girls average 18 points each, and the class as a whole averages 17 points per person. How many points does each boy score on average?

2. Randolph has 8 ties, 6 pairs of pants, and 4 dress shirts. How many days could he possibly go without wearing the same combination of these three items?

3. John is a mechanic. He makes $8.50 an hour, plus $3 extra for every oil change he performs. Last week he worked 36 hours and performed 17 oil changes. How much money did he make?

4. A box of staples has a length of 6 cm, a width of 7 cm, and a volume of 378 cm cubed. What is the height of the box?

5. What is the average of all of the integers from 13 to 37?

6. A basketball player averaged 20 points a game over the course of six games. His scores in five of those games were 23, 18, 16, 24, and 27. How many points did he score in the sixth game?

7. Arnold is about to go on a 500-mile car trip. His mechanic recommends that he buy a special highway engine oil that will save him 50 cents in gas for every 25 miles of the trip. This new oil, however, will cost $20. Is it worthwhile for Arnold to buy the oil if he has a coupon for $4 dollars off the price?

Answer Key:

1. Answer: 14. Since the class has three times as many girls as boys, the class is composed of 75% girls and 25% boys. To find the number of points each boy scores on average, we solve the following equation: 0.75*18 + 0.25*X = 17, where X is the number of points each boy scores on average. Solving for X gives X = 14, so the boys average 14 points per game.

2. Answer: 192 days. There are 48 different combinations of ties and shirts (8 different ties for each of the 6 pairs of pants), and then four different shirts for each of these combinations. In numerical form: 8 x 6 x 4 = 192.

3. Answer: $357. John's base wage can be figured by multiplying his pay per hour by the number of hours he worked: $8.50 x 36 = 306. His bonus for oil changes is calculated by multiplying the payment per oil change by the number of oil changes performed: 17 x 3 = 51. These two products can then be added together.

4. Answer: 9 cm. Volume is calculated as the product of length, width, and height, so if height is set as Y: 6 x 7 x Y = 378. This can be rearranged to 378 / 42 = Y = 9.

5. Answer: 25. This kind of problem can be easily solved by simply finding the average of the two extremes in the range: (13 + 37) / 2 = 25.

6. Answer: 12 points.

7. Answer: No. Arnold will only save $10 by using the oil (.5 x (500 / 25)), and this is still $6 less than the cost of the oil.

Wonderlic Test

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Wonderlic Personnel Test is a twelve-minute, fifty-question intelligence test used to assess the aptitude of prospective employees for learning and problem-solving in a wide range of occupations.[1] The score is calculated as the number of correct answers given in the allotted time. A score of 20 is intended to indicate average intelligence (corresponding to an intelligence quotient of 100; a rough conversion is accomplished via the following formula: IQ = 2WPT + 60). A new version was released in Jan, '07 called the Wonderlic Personnel Test - Revised. It contains questions deemed more appropriate to the 21st century.

Use in NFL

Though used in a wide variety of institutions, the Wonderlic test has become best known for its use in the NFL pre-draft assessments of prospective football players.

This assessment roughly corresponds to examples from Paul Zimmerman's The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football. According to Zimmerman, examples of average scores for each position are:

Offensive tackle - 26
Center - 25
Quarterback - 24
Guard - 23
Tight end - 22
Safety - 19
Linebacker - 19
Cornerback - 18
Wide receiver - 17
Fullback - 17
Halfback - 16

Pat McInally, a graduate of Harvard University, is the only football player to record a confirmed perfect score of 50.[2] Ryan Fitzpatrick, also a Harvard graduate, had also been rumored to have scored a perfect 50 points in only nine minutes.[3] However, Fitzpatrick denied this, saying that he had left at least one of the 50 answer spaces blank.[4] The Wall Street Journal later reported that Fitzpatrick's actual score was 38 (still considered a 99th percentile or better score[5]), but that Fitzpatrick's claim of completing the Wonderlic in only nine minutes was accurate. Kevin Curtis is thought to have had the second highest Wonderlic score, at a 48.[1]

Vince Young's wonderlic score of 6 was leaked to the media and caused much controversy due to how low it was, sending his draft stock plummeting. There were many, oftentimes conflicting, rumors about how it had occurred, ranging from an "innaccurate" first testing, to his agent not informing Young about having to take the test. In the fallout, Young was allowed to retake the test, achieving a score of 16. The second test itself was questioned by some believing it was all just a coverup for the unprofessional leaking of the original and "true" score.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick didn't do too bad on a bad Bengals team this year, could it be that he is really smart and has good awareness?]

I think this stuff is important.

wonderlic (sp)

In my opinion the most important aspect of the upcoming combine stuff is without a doubt!!!!!!! 100%

The Interviews and the Wonderlick!

If they can't speak or can't think, they cannot comprehend the complex game of professional football. I don't care how fast they are, or how high they can jump. Who cares if they run a 4.3; if they are running in the wrong direction.

After that we must solely rely on their college performances, not the combine drills.

GO CHIEFS

Adam, if your near Riverside, CA, stop by the office:

It would be a pleasure to meet a fellow addict.

I'll be particularly curious to learn if our newly hired coordinators are in attendance.

Who needs to solidify their current rankings?

Aaron Curry
Mark Sanchez
Eugene Monroe
Andre Smith
Michael Oher
Jason Smith
Eben Britton
Malcolm Jenkins

Who stands to be hurt most significantly by not participating?

Michael Crabtree
Matthew Stafford

Who stands to benefit the most from a solid performance?

BJ Raji
Everette Brown
Brian Orakpo
William Beatty
Jeremy Maclin
Josh Freeman
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Rhett Bomar
William Moore
Rey Maualuga
James Laurinaitis
Clint Sintim
Aaron Maybin
Michael Johnson