When the Kansas City Star is declaring it a done deal, which the did at the top of the hour, you know it’s a sure thing.
Todd Haley will receive $12 million over four seasons as Chiefs head coach, a source told the Kansas City Star…
Nine NFL teams will enter next season with new head coaches. Seven will be guided by rookie head coaches.
Haley will be the 11th head coach of the Chiefs. He replaces Herm Edwards, who was fired after three seasons.
There are some very important points to be made about the text I selected.
First off, we really wanted Todd Haley. $3 million a pop is pretty good money. Even though it is what John Harbaugh, Mike Smith and Tony Sparano got last year, it still makes him tied for 10th among NFL coaches. Given his salary and that we waited all the way until after the Super Bowl and then got a deal done in a mere five days, I’d say that Haley was the guy all along.
Seven rookie coaches out of nine. Ladies and gentleman, it’s a trend for a reason. That reason? It’s working! Look at the years Harbaugh, Smith, Sparano, Tomlin and Whisenhunt had last year. Then look at the years Dungy, Edwards, Gruden, Holmgren, Shanahan and Turner had. The first-time coaches all improved over the previous year. Meanwhile, the retreads all got worse.
People always talk about retread quarterbacks in Kansas City, but what about retread coaches? I know Gunther Cunningham wasn’t one, but I never thought he was cut out to be a head coach. Given the youth and hunger of both our players and front office, Haley is a perfect match.
Our 11th coach. That’s saying something, folks. Let’s celebrate! After all, it’s not every day that you get a new coach, let alone one whose offense just miracled the lowly Cardinals into the Super Bowl.
Addicts, sound off on Todd Haley, the Chiefs new coach!
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How far we have come in just a few months from the Harm Era to the Hayley era. Celebrate this weekend Addicts! Toast to Clark Hunt and Pioli…Hi-oli!
Good coach for a good price.
I can still hear Dwayne Bowe singing right now from California!
Let’s get to work!!!
Ok time to speculate:
Who is the DC going to be?
I will start this rumor:
Romeo Crennel as DC (after recuperation from hip surgery) We switch to a 3-4 defense. Take Vince Wolfork off of the Patriots hands. Actually move Dorsey to end, generate all pash rush from the linebackers. Go after one or two free agent linebackers with 3-4 expereince only. Draft even more line backers for 3-4 scheme.
Cut Surtain, Donnie Edwards, Ron Edwards, Jon Mcgraw, Pat Thomas.
Suprisilngly keep Alphonso Boone (could be a good end for a 3-4 scheme) and Jason Babin.
Do you really think that Pioli, who won every championship with a 3-4 scheme, and has all his personnell experience running a 3-4 scheme will not implement a 3-4 scheme? Do you?
I would be surprised if he kept a 4-3 scheme.
Peppers wants out of Carolina and is interested in going to a team that is employing a 3-4 scheme. He wants to try out being a LB. If it is possible to get him and maybe Scott from Baltimore…look out. DJ, Peppers, Scott then draft that Curry kid…Wow.
How do you see us getting Wilfork?
Jeremy, What you’ve outlined is about what it would take to implement a 3-4, or at least a hybrid 3-4 like the Pats use. Dorsey is a question mark at DE mainly because of his size – he would probably need to add an extra 15-20 lbs to become effective in that role.
On the flip side, let’s not overlook the fact that Crennel also has experience with the 4-3. With Crennel, we might be looking at a 4-3 initially that transitions over to a 3-4 after a season or two.
So do we retain Chan or do you think he will bring his own guy in?
If Haley’s the HC, he’ll be calling the plays. For that reason, it’s hard to see Gailey working out. Who knows though? I’ve been wrong before.
How about Steve Deberg as our QB coach?
DeBerg is even on the market?
As long as we’re engaging in wild speculation, what about T-Rich as a possible player-coach for our RBs? When he left, he did say he hoped to someday be able to come back and once again be a part of the organization . . .
Yeah I don’t see Haley relinquishing the play calling anytime soon. I’m sure that was discussed in the negotiating room. With what I saw from his playcalling in the playoffs, giddy up! I would love to see the 3-4, and I’m sure Pioli will think long and hard about how Dorsey fits. I think with a pro offseason under his belt, he can put on the muscle and lose some of the fat that rookie DT’s always seem to have. Lots of 3-4 teams have their guys line up everywhere. Dorsey can spend quite a lot of snaps in the 3 technique, and with better help next to him and at LB, he will be a stud.
I definitely want to keep DJ, but I find it nearly impossible to get Peppers and Scott in the same FA market. I love picking Curry. His stock shouldn’t move between now and the draft.
I realize that it is all speculation but for the next three weeks that is where we are at right? I am not sure if he is on the market but there has been some talk about how good a job Steve is doing preparing college players for the combine and high school players coming out. Just thought it was worth mentioning. Has Tony officially retired? If so why not, couldnt hurt. Gotta love speculation.
Now that I don’t have to worry about my Chiefs dooming themselves by making Gailey our HC…
The one thing about Gailey is that it doesn’t seem like he minds being in the background. He doesn’t seem to have a big ego. I could see him being subservient and focusing on teaching the players and assisting Haley with the offense. He also does know our personnel and the AFC West defenses well. Then again, our personnel will change somewhat dramatically.
Everyone has Awesome points!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man i still got wood !!!!! cloud nine , this is AWESOME
When does the season start!!!
I completely agree with your remarks on Gailey. He does seem comfortable in the “guy behind the guy” role.
I know the popular consensus is that Thigpen is not the franchise QB but cant you see him excelling as a QB in that Cardinals style offense. I just cant see how this isnt a perfect fit.
Nice quote stolen from Peter King,
“I know this: If I’m the rest of the AFC West, and I see Scott Pioli and the son of Dick Haley with $45 million in salary cap room, and with the third and 34th picks in the April draft, I’m getting a little nervous.”
baldy – I’m saying bring in T-Rich as the starting FB and also use him to coach the young RBs. He has not retired, his current status is UFA.
T-Rich has blocked for as well as learned from the best – there’s little doubt in my mind he knows a thing or two about how to implement a successful run game. Would he be even interested in coaching role? I really have no idea but I think it would be a pretty cool situation if he was.
Yes to everything you said.
James- Love it.
Maybe T Rich can talk his boy LJ into staying…..not!
Lets just hope for a decent draft this year. granted there is not much out there but every move we make needs to count.
Now are you ready for some football !!!!
BTW Merritt got caught “twistin up a blunt thinkin about his next dolla” LOL
Cassel franchising will handcuff Pats
Vince Wilfork – DL – NE – Feb. 6 – 11:35 am et
The Patriots’ franchise tagging of Matt Cassel may prevent them from extending the contracts of key players, most notably Vince Wilfork.
New England’s irreplaceable nose tackle is in a contract year. If the Pats plan to keep Cassel, they’ll almost certainly try to work out a new contract before the season. They could even pursue a multi-year deal that would essentially promise Cassel the starting job when Tom Brady is done. Brady is coming off a major knee injury and is only signed through 2010. Feb. 6 – 11:35 am et
Source: Boston Globe
That is where I got that Baldy (see above post), they may trade woolfork if they can’t extend him. I should have been more clear on that.
I would like to point out that willfork had 66 takles and two sacks all year. Wilfork, never had more than 2 sacks a season.
Dorsey had 46 tackle 1 sack. Dorsey is an inch shorter and 30 pounds lighter.
Could Dorsey cut it if he can gain some more muscle to survive? What to do wirth Dorsey under Pioli and Haley?
Dr. P, I truly hope you’re not using LJ to dis on T-Rich. Last thing you want is for me to come at you like a spider monkey all jacked up on Mountain Dew. . . Shake. And Bake.
Haley will be a great coach. I have no doubts whatsoever that the defensive side of the ball will have great support from Haley. Haley is no fool, he knows both offense and defense are important elements of the equation. The Chiefs offense will blossom next year under Haley, and I think Chan Gailey will be part of the coaching staff. Chiefs fans, this is a no kidding great situation we are in. History is being made, right here, right now. This is just the beginning of something which will be remembered as a great time in the history of the Kansas City Chiefs. And by the way, I take back every derogatory thing I ever said about Clark Hunt when Herm was the head coach. My hat is off to you, sir.
Someone made a good point about Dorsey. I am not taking credit for it but rather summarizing. “Usually with a pro post season they will shed the baby fat and put on 15-20 lbs (muscle). He was a rookie on a bad D with no DL help so…I can only imagine he can only do better. But he has to have help otherwise he will be a bust. See DJ about that.
Yeah, don’t talk smack on T-Rich. That is unacceptable here at the Addict.
And Thigpen dosn’t complete enough of his passes to be successful in the type of offense Haley engineered. Plus, Thiggy can basically ONLY go shotgun. Not going to be a great fit, if you ask me. I think there is a lot of wishful thinking when it comes to Thigpen.
Ya your probably right. I just really dont want to waste the 3rd overall pick on a QB…until next year. Hopefully we wont be in that spot though.
So what do we think about his press conference? He talked about being an emotional guy and being very excited, but sounded like Ben Stein when he said it. I’m going to assume it has been a tiring last month and he is just worn out. I liked it when he said he is the coach of the entire football team and that means offense, defense, and special teams. He said his name is on all of them. That was refreshing considering Vermeil only cared about offense and Herm only cared about defense (although you couldn’t tell from the squad we put out there last year). It looks like he and Pioli have a great relationship and that should serve the Chiefs well. I also thought it was interesting that he said he was going to try to keep his emotions in check and not get into it with players all the time. It made me think maybe that was brought up in the interview process. Exciting day for the Chiefs.
No disrespect from me towards Tony Richardson, ever. My words were completely misconstrued. In fact, I find it very admirable that he was able to form a strong friendship with such a sour human being like LJ. My comment was a joke. It would be ideal to have him back for the Chiefs in any sort of role. Class act, stand up guy, and probably one of the best fullbacks in the league right now.
Thanks for the props on the comment baldy. Lets not forget that Dorsey’s stats were very comparable to the best DT’s in the game their rookie year. His performance appeared worse than it was individually due to how putrid the defense’s collective performance was. I fully expect a breakout year from several defensive players, including Dorsey, assuming that Pioli is able to put some playmakers over there. I’m thinking that is #1 priority now that we have a new HC in place.
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!
When I drove home from the Miami game I honestly didnt know if I could keep up the every game attendance streak (two years including preseason).
Now I cant wait to get back in sect 317! (this could realistically last for five games)
Pioli’s introductory comments about Todd Haley being the son of Dick Haley, etc etc certainly seemed to underscore a point I was trying to make the other day about the ongoing need for the Rooney Rule. Coaching “pedigree” and selection therefrom in the NFL continues to seem like a close-knit country club vetting process. Those who are not born to it or allowed “in” end up pounding sand.
Another thing that caught my attention was Haley’s slip up about the OC job. I can’t quote him verbatim but it was words to the effect of “whoever ends up being the new offensive coordinator.” Sounded to me like Chan was not going to be a part of the equation.
I love the fact that Haley semed a little nervous and stumbled his words quite often.
It makes him human. He does not have much of an ego and was very humble. He really has to prove himself, and he knows it. GO Haley!
Dr. Paine, we agree again. If you look at the numbers he compares to Warren Sapp. Now that is no comparison but just a confirmation of your statement.
I wouldnt read too much into his demeanor. Remember this is the Patriots “lite” system where no one shows emotion or lets anybody know anything about anything.
I’m optimistic about this hire. I’m more excited the more I hear people talk about it … It’s a good day. Best off-season ever.
Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs1 Chiefs!
I know it is going to take a few seasons, but man, I am freaking PUMPED!!!!
Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs! Chiefs1 Chiefs!
Adam,
I’m pretty excited about the hire, but I’d have to imagine you’ve blown your freakin wad all over your computer screen multiple times today. Some of the shit you come up with about this guy (your third coaching option by the way) is so ridiculous, all I can do is laugh. But yes, times are exciting in KC!
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Sources: Olson A Candidate For OC Job In KC
The National Football Post has just been informed that Tampa Bay quarterbacks coach Greg Olson is one of the top candidates to be named the next offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.
The Chiefs announced earlier today the hiring of former Arizona Cardinals offensive coordinator Todd Haley as their new head coach.
Olson spent the 2008 season as the quarterbacks coach of the Buccaneers. Prior to that, Olson was the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams from 2006-2007.
More on this story as it develops.
D,
Sorry but that lame ass Roony rule doesn’t help anybody outside the “fraternity” except black coaches.
In a shocking move, Clancy Pendergast was just fired by ARZ. Coming to KC?
The Rooney Rule is not lame at all. Would you rather the NFL be a joke when it comes to diversity like NCAA Division 1 football? 3 out of 117 coaches are black? In an age where we’ve come far enough to have a black President, that is a joke! The Rooney Rule applies to all minorities, by the way. Guys like Norm Chow and Ron Rivera fulfill the rule as well. The Rooney Rule is necessary. Hopefully, we are approaching a point where we won’t even need it any longer. For now I think it needs to remain a rule.
For a second there I thought we were talking Greg Olsen from the U. You know, the one who looks like He-Man and was a member of the Seventh Floor Crew.
Olsen was part of the 7th floor crew? and i think Haley should look long and hard at getting ron rivera as DC. i wanted him as our coach after the FFD’s got mcdaniels.
Spyke,
The Chargers will not let Rivera go. Teams have to let guys go if he will be getting a promotion. They do not let them make lateral moves.