The AA Spin On Tony Gonzalez

Did not work for Jason Taylor and i dont think it would work for Tony! Man up and play where you are!

Not sure if you guys have seen it or not, but yahoo did not write what Tony said exactly. Check out this article on Foxsports, http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9180456/Gonzalez:-I'm-willing-to-stick-with-Chiefs, before you guys assume Tony is trying to get his way.

I never saw any of the older Chiefs play, but I am not agreeing with anyone that thinks Tony isn't the greatest TE, read this carefully, TE in NFL history, not just Chiefs history.

As for the DT debate, you cannot realistically say DT would have or would not have been better than Bell or Lanier. If he had not died in that car crash he possibly could have broken a lot LB records, solely based on his play up to the accident that ended his bright career.

I am all about the arrowheads,I could care less if TG gets a ring somewhere else. He has been a great player here and a good citizen,however he could helps us more by being traded. I was a huge Marino fan, but I can't feel sorry for him for not getting a ring!! He had a pretty good life playing and now in retirement. Simply put, I don't owe Tony a thing.

If we make serious head way in Free Agencey, then I would keep Tony. If not, I would trade him on draft day;as the rebuilding process could last longer than Tony has in his tank.

I look at it like this. What if Tony G gets traded to a team and is there for however long, but never wins a Super Bowl? Is that really worth it? With as much parody as there is in the NFL these days, he may have just has much of a chance at winning the big game with the Chiefs, as he does with any other team...

YoungAce

Ditto, perfectly said

"I've never been the type of guy who goes to the media trying to get my way," Gonzalez said. "That's just not my style. If anything, it's just to explain my side of the story. I'm not going to start doing that now.

"I'll probably from this point on stop (publicly) talking about this. There's nothing to talk about. You can't do anything right now anyway (with the NFL barring trades until February 27). I just want to play it out and see what happens."

Tony G, again in a report on Foxsports.com

"I want to make sure people know I have not asked for a trade," Gonzalez said Wednesday morning before the AFC's Pro Bowl practice. "I haven't even talked to (new Chiefs general manager Scott) Pioli yet. I said there are reasons I would ask for a trade, but depending on the coach they bring in and the free-agent acquisitions, I could easily be a Chief next year, too. In fact, that's the direction I want to go."

Tony G in a report on Foxsports.com

No one 'deserves' a Super Bowl ring. We would all like Tony to get one, but that's different.

Adam And D I am not saying that TonyG does not deserve a ring or that he is not great at what he does. There Is no question whether he is good at his job or not. He obviously takes his job Serious !
And I am a fan of him .
D you did put things in prospective with what you say . I to would probably feel a little down if i were in his shoes. So with that being said then I do think he should be givin the opportunity to chase a ring .But when he signed the contract the last time did he honestly think we had a shot at the big bowl ?

"What player in the NFL doesn’t want to win a superbowl?"
How about this instead? What player in the NFL would want to play for a team that believed it could not compete for a Super Bowl right now? I have to believe that's where Tony is at. If he's led to believe that this team does not believe in itself right now, then he should not be forced to be any part of that. In fact, I, as a fan, am not so sure I could support a team that had that attitude.

For me, it's pretty much about putting together a team that can compete now and can compete in the future. I don't believe it has to be either/or. I'd be willing to bet that Tony feels exactly the same way. If he sits down with Pioli and hears anything resembling the word "rebuild" he should say "Eff you man, I'm done."

Pretty much if he leaves, bon voyage, I'm a die-hard Chiefs fan and haven't pledged my loyalty to any one player not wearing our jersey. I think Brad Cottam will be a strong TE anyway.

I agree with Jeremy 100% and am disappointed with Tony. He is easily the most loved Chief in KC now and has been for a while. Asking for a trade simply to pursue a ring is kind of a slap in the face to the city and fans that have sang his praises for so long in my eyes. What player in the NFL doesn't want to win a superbowl? If everyone held the mentality he's showing now what would the league look like? He basically is just saying he wants out because the Chiefs are losers and he has little to no faith in them in a politically correct way.

Dear Tony G: NEWS FLASH!!! Herm Edwards is gone! Scott Pioli is the head of football operations! The Chiefs are almost certain to sign free agents and be competitive next season!

I applauded Barry Sanders when he retired early and told the Lions to go eff themselves. He deserved better. Without Barry, they would have had nothing. No jerseys sold. No tickets sold. Nothing. He kept them from being the jokes of the league that they are once again. He made more money and did more for that team's legacy than they could possibly repay him for in monetary value. They owed him a trade. I wanted him in Kansas City. I remember it well.

Tony is approaching similar territory after surviving two very rough patches in Chiefs history -- the Gunther and Herm head coaching eras.

Face it; he's right here, Addicts. He's absolutely right. He's not being a baby. He's telling the Chiefs that he's proved himself as a winner and that he doesn't want to hang around and spend his swan song with a bunch of losers. Speaking up is the right thing to do.

Lanier and Bell were better all-around players than Derrick Thomas, but I don't believe that either was as good at anything at rushing the passer. In fact, I think D.T. was the best speed pass rusher of all time. Since all three are in the HoF now, or will be, I celebrate all three. And, yes, every minute of Bell and Lanier that is available to me I have watched :)

Now, as for Tony G., he has to be the greatest Chief of all time. What other Chief is the greatest player ever to play his position in the NFL hands down with the numbers to support it? The debate starts and ends right there. Period.

I'd have to say that Shannon Sharpe stood out. Can't stand the guy, but you have to admit he definitely showed up in the Super Bowl. Tony is probably looking at Shannon thinking to himself, "3 SB trips, set numerous records and yet not a first ballot HOF'r?" Yeah, it probably eats at him just a bit.

I am 43 I was A lil guy back then . I do remember a little bit of Lanier.
But I hav to be honest Bell I do not

Bowefan:

Did you see Bell and Lanier play?

Ok Merlin no need to pull out the big guns.haha
I know those were kick azz players. And like I said maybe I am just bias , And one can't say "If he lived that long would that be the case." Noone will ever know that but in my eyes DT was the best.
" In my eyes " And no i don't need new eyes
But cool you did atleast give up the names.
Dont get me wrong Bell and Lanier were studs

SUPERBOWLS ARE TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY

THEY ARE NOT INDIVIDUAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS

So Merlin then who is ?
My point is that Tony G is NOT the greatest chief ever ! Not saying you said that . But there are alot of people that say TG is and by far he is not

Well put Merlin.

Bowefan:

DT isn't the greatest player in Chief's history. He is not even the best linebacker..... nor the second best linbacker in Chief's history. I am a big DT fan, but let's keep him in context.

"You know what, I am not mad at Tony one bit."

Nor am I. I think the guy has earned the right to some honest answers and a fair shake.

Yea...I can't blame the greatest tight end of all time about being ticked off the way things have gone the last few seasons. LJ on the other hand...

Spot on as usual Adam. Good Post.

You know what, I am not mad at Tony one bit. He's given this franchise more than he could ever be paid for with money. He has. He deserves better than these past two years, especially when he's been the one guy who has done enough to help a team get to the Super Bowl. He and Brian Waters.

I agree with you on what shipping out Tony means, and while I've said that might be passable, I think you almost have to make the playoffs in year two. I t also depends on the division. In this year's division, an 8-8 year two would not be acceptable. No, if we were like the NFC East or AFC East it would probably be OK. Just depends on a lot of other factors.

Regardless, I think we should aim to make the playoffs in the next two years. This is not college. It doesn't take 3-4 full years to rebuild.

I don't think Tony can reap us that in a trade at his age either.

My take on all this is that if the Chiefs let Tony go it can pretty much only mean one thing - there is no expectation of contending (for the Superbowl) over the next two years. That can be the only conclusion drawn because if Pioli and co felt we had a realistic shot at it, they would be crazy to not want Tony help contribute. I mean, who better than Tony to help you get there?

Adam, don't even think about arguing with me on this. You have as much as said the exact same thing if we bring in Haley as the new headcoach. Year 1 - a pass. Year 2 - 8 & 8. Year 3 - contention.

Now, on the other hand, if Pioli tells Gonzalez we are taking steps A, B, C, & D to be a top tier team next season and Tony says "yeah, cool" and then JJ comes saying he'll give us a 1st, 3rd, & 7th? Well, I'd say that's when you've got a real dilemma on your hands. :|

Ok I have my two cents:
Tony G is not the greatest player in our beloved chiefs uniform!!!!! To me THE GREAT DEREK THOMAS was the greatest and ALWAYS will be !! ( I am bias I know)

He(TonyG) is the greatest TE ever I will give that up. But how does he want the fans to react to his whinning. We don't "OWE" him anything . If I remember right he's getting a hell of a paycheck . So if he wants to go then by all means "GET OUT"

Tony needs to keep this behind closed doors. He is my favorite current Chief, but he pisses me off with letting this stuff out in the press.

If LJ focused more on playing football than punchin women in the mouth he would be fine.

Tony needs to remember that everyone wants to win and everyone wants to go to the superbowl. Duh!

I am dissapointed in the greatest Chief ever and the best tight end ever.

Both LJ and Tony are sufferin gfrom a serious case of the wah wahs! This condition is usually brought out by sub stabdard stats (LJ) or constant depression from losses(LJ).

The prescription: Take one new GM, a new coaching staff, on high priced free agent, and a steady diet of touches (football). You should feel fine soon thereafter.

Stop your bitchin.

Tony should not go anywhere, and LJ is trying a Ocho Cino and it shouldn't work. Run LJ into the ground or into the bench!!!!!!!!!!

I hate when players come out and do all their talking through the media. He should direct his comments to Pioli in private. I also hate it when players think they should run the team (i.e. Tony weighing in on Ferentz). I've loved watching Tony play over the years, but he needs to STFU.