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	<title>Comments on: C4C (Case For Crabtree): The Next Fitzgerald?</title>
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		<title>By: schmuck34</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2009/01/11/c4c-case-for-crabtree-the-next-fitzgerald/comment-page-1/#comment-23047</link>
		<dc:creator>schmuck34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, I said Calvin Johnson was a better prospect, not that he had better college stats.  Hmm let&#039;s see here receiver in Chain Gailey&#039;s offense (C.J. @ GT) receiver in Mike Leach&#039;s offense...  bad argument.  Crabtree isn&#039;t as big, probably not as fast, and not nearly as explosive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, I said Calvin Johnson was a better prospect, not that he had better college stats.  Hmm let&#8217;s see here receiver in Chain Gailey&#8217;s offense (C.J. @ GT) receiver in Mike Leach&#8217;s offense&#8230;  bad argument.  Crabtree isn&#8217;t as big, probably not as fast, and not nearly as explosive.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2009/01/11/c4c-case-for-crabtree-the-next-fitzgerald/comment-page-1/#comment-23042</link>
		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, 

How we choose to resign Albert is the real rub I&#039;d say. If we select a top-flight LT with our first pick between now and then, that means we&#039;ll be carrying 2 expensive OL until Albert resigns. What&#039;s more he should be able to command LT money somewhere else if we&#039;re not willing to pony up for the kind of money he might rightly ask for. Very likely scenario I&#039;d say. 

Ideal scenario: We pick up 2 top-name defenders in FA (DE &amp; LB) and a veteran QB, we select Crabtree or Curry with our first pick, Unger (who can play any of 4 OL positions) with our 2nd round pick, and Josh Freeman (as a development project) with our 3rd round pick.  Then in &#039;10, we use our 1st round pick on a QB if we need to - there should be several good ones available. This year&#039;s day one QB options are either not going to be ready to start in the NFL or just plain suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, </p>
<p>How we choose to resign Albert is the real rub I&#8217;d say. If we select a top-flight LT with our first pick between now and then, that means we&#8217;ll be carrying 2 expensive OL until Albert resigns. What&#8217;s more he should be able to command LT money somewhere else if we&#8217;re not willing to pony up for the kind of money he might rightly ask for. Very likely scenario I&#8217;d say. </p>
<p>Ideal scenario: We pick up 2 top-name defenders in FA (DE &#038; LB) and a veteran QB, we select Crabtree or Curry with our first pick, Unger (who can play any of 4 OL positions) with our 2nd round pick, and Josh Freeman (as a development project) with our 3rd round pick.  Then in &#8216;10, we use our 1st round pick on a QB if we need to &#8211; there should be several good ones available. This year&#8217;s day one QB options are either not going to be ready to start in the NFL or just plain suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would vehemently disagree that it is &quot;much easier&quot; to just find a guard to replace Brian Waters. And Albert isn&#039;t quite getting LT dough and he won&#039;t when he re-signs if he isn&#039;t playing LT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would vehemently disagree that it is &#8220;much easier&#8221; to just find a guard to replace Brian Waters. And Albert isn&#8217;t quite getting LT dough and he won&#8217;t when he re-signs if he isn&#8217;t playing LT.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2009/01/11/c4c-case-for-crabtree-the-next-fitzgerald/comment-page-1/#comment-23039</link>
		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree woody.  I feel this year there will be some pretty decent OL talent still available after the first round - and quite likely at the top of the third as well. The way I see this draft shaping up is that most of top-notch talent (along with demand) will be with defensive players.

dbk - back to you, upon further review  . . . it looks to me like there may be at least one RT (Eben Britton) and a couple of G&#039;s (Robinson &amp; Johnson) that might go mid-to-late first round.

I say we need to take off the board whoever we think the best player available is.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, that&#039;s got to be either Michael Crabtree or Aaron Curry - either one looks to be a big get for our team. 

I also believe that a team like Oakland would pay very handsomely for our #3 spot because of their 2 biggest impact needs (WR, SLB) and the strong likelihood that neither position will provide adequate talent for them at the #7 pick. Al Davis is crazy about going for impact players so I look for it to get pretty interesting for us this go round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree woody.  I feel this year there will be some pretty decent OL talent still available after the first round &#8211; and quite likely at the top of the third as well. The way I see this draft shaping up is that most of top-notch talent (along with demand) will be with defensive players.</p>
<p>dbk &#8211; back to you, upon further review  . . . it looks to me like there may be at least one RT (Eben Britton) and a couple of G&#8217;s (Robinson &#038; Johnson) that might go mid-to-late first round.</p>
<p>I say we need to take off the board whoever we think the best player available is.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, that&#8217;s got to be either Michael Crabtree or Aaron Curry &#8211; either one looks to be a big get for our team. </p>
<p>I also believe that a team like Oakland would pay very handsomely for our #3 spot because of their 2 biggest impact needs (WR, SLB) and the strong likelihood that neither position will provide adequate talent for them at the #7 pick. Al Davis is crazy about going for impact players so I look for it to get pretty interesting for us this go round.</p>
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		<title>By: woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would much rather have Albert stay at a premier position (Tackle) as long as he is getting paid that much and find a guard to replace Waters somewhere else...it is much easier after all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would much rather have Albert stay at a premier position (Tackle) as long as he is getting paid that much and find a guard to replace Waters somewhere else&#8230;it is much easier after all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, first off, I don&#039;t know that Albert is suited to play RT. But I do know that he can play LG and that Waters can play C so that makes the most sense to me if we&#039;re going to be moving Albert anywhere to make room for a new LT. 

I think we also need to think about the fact that we&#039;ll eventually need to replace Waters and Albert&#039;s ability to play well at either LG or LT makes him a great candidate for Waters eventual replacement.  Whether, for the sake of argument, Albert winds up at either RT or LG next season, it seems to me we would be sort of be in a position of overpaying Albert at this point in his career. I also strongly believe that Smith and Oher will be the first 2 players taken off the board. That leaves us with taking Eugene Monroe if that&#039;s the way we&#039;re going to go. I like Monroe plenty but I frankly can&#039;t see him being the BPA at the #3 pick.  

Give me a guy like Curry or Crabtree instead with that first pick and then in the 2nd round take either the best C available (Mack or Unger I would assume) or else the best RT (Eben Britton maybe?) available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, first off, I don&#8217;t know that Albert is suited to play RT. But I do know that he can play LG and that Waters can play C so that makes the most sense to me if we&#8217;re going to be moving Albert anywhere to make room for a new LT. </p>
<p>I think we also need to think about the fact that we&#8217;ll eventually need to replace Waters and Albert&#8217;s ability to play well at either LG or LT makes him a great candidate for Waters eventual replacement.  Whether, for the sake of argument, Albert winds up at either RT or LG next season, it seems to me we would be sort of be in a position of overpaying Albert at this point in his career. I also strongly believe that Smith and Oher will be the first 2 players taken off the board. That leaves us with taking Eugene Monroe if that&#8217;s the way we&#8217;re going to go. I like Monroe plenty but I frankly can&#8217;t see him being the BPA at the #3 pick.  </p>
<p>Give me a guy like Curry or Crabtree instead with that first pick and then in the 2nd round take either the best C available (Mack or Unger I would assume) or else the best RT (Eben Britton maybe?) available.</p>
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		<title>By: dbk301</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbk301</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double D:

I know Albert was drafted as LT. That wasn&#039;t what I was saying. You said you are against drafting a LT and moving Albert to RT because you would have a RT in that case making first round money. However, you then go on to say that you would move him to G. It seems odd that you don&#039;t want to pay a RT first round money, but you are okay with moving him to G and paying a G first round money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double D:</p>
<p>I know Albert was drafted as LT. That wasn&#8217;t what I was saying. You said you are against drafting a LT and moving Albert to RT because you would have a RT in that case making first round money. However, you then go on to say that you would move him to G. It seems odd that you don&#8217;t want to pay a RT first round money, but you are okay with moving him to G and paying a G first round money.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2009/01/11/c4c-case-for-crabtree-the-next-fitzgerald/comment-page-1/#comment-23035</link>
		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sgt ducttape - before you start ruling out Losman, I&#039;d caution you and anyone else that feels the same to remember that a lot of people were making a very similar assessment about Pennington when his name was in the mix. I see Losman as a more than adequate veteran backup with a lot of potential to take on the starting job.  Regardless of how one feels about Losman, there is no denying that veteran backup QB remains high on our list of offseason needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sgt ducttape &#8211; before you start ruling out Losman, I&#8217;d caution you and anyone else that feels the same to remember that a lot of people were making a very similar assessment about Pennington when his name was in the mix. I see Losman as a more than adequate veteran backup with a lot of potential to take on the starting job.  Regardless of how one feels about Losman, there is no denying that veteran backup QB remains high on our list of offseason needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2009/01/11/c4c-case-for-crabtree-the-next-fitzgerald/comment-page-1/#comment-23034</link>
		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbk - Albert was a special case - it&#039;s true that he played G in college but the fact is he was projected by most to play LT in the NFL.

It is not at all unusual to find quality RTs, Gs, and Cs still available in round 2 and later.  Unless somebody qualifies as a rare standout at any of those positions, there&#039;s generally not a lot of value to be had in burning a 1st round pick on any those positions.

Taking a QB in round 1 this year would be a huge mistake in my opinion.  Stafford does not impress me at all, Bradford needs to stay in school at least one more year. If we fail to address LB through FA, then Curry or Crabtree are my top picks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dbk &#8211; Albert was a special case &#8211; it&#8217;s true that he played G in college but the fact is he was projected by most to play LT in the NFL.</p>
<p>It is not at all unusual to find quality RTs, Gs, and Cs still available in round 2 and later.  Unless somebody qualifies as a rare standout at any of those positions, there&#8217;s generally not a lot of value to be had in burning a 1st round pick on any those positions.</p>
<p>Taking a QB in round 1 this year would be a huge mistake in my opinion.  Stafford does not impress me at all, Bradford needs to stay in school at least one more year. If we fail to address LB through FA, then Curry or Crabtree are my top picks.</p>
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		<title>By: ChiefsRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChiefsRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is everyone talking about Stafford?i am not impressed by him at all and going for a QB is just Blasphemous. Crabtree could make all the difference in the long run and if we choose not to draft him we will suffer for years to come at what couldve been. Talking about RTs i believe we could find greatness in a later round. I mean Andre Smith may be good but he is just another troublemaker. The free Agency will be ripe with Defensive Stars and O lineman and so will the later round draft picks, i mean there was a linebacker from Nevada going for the Dick Butkus Award. But at the moment we will just have to watch and wait</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is everyone talking about Stafford?i am not impressed by him at all and going for a QB is just Blasphemous. Crabtree could make all the difference in the long run and if we choose not to draft him we will suffer for years to come at what couldve been. Talking about RTs i believe we could find greatness in a later round. I mean Andre Smith may be good but he is just another troublemaker. The free Agency will be ripe with Defensive Stars and O lineman and so will the later round draft picks, i mean there was a linebacker from Nevada going for the Dick Butkus Award. But at the moment we will just have to watch and wait</p>
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