<sigh> Chiefs suck.
This was without question the worst game of the year. I know they have lost by more but in total team effort and at least pretending to give a crap, this was the worst game. No offense, the defense continued to not show up–no heart, no integrity, no “want to“. The players were just hoping the clock would move faster so they could shower, get on the plane, go back to their homes and try to forget about this embarrassment that was the 2008 Kansas City Chiefs season.
Now, we all sit and play out the “what will” scenarios in our heads…if we haven’t banged them against a wall one too many times that is.
What will happen to Herm Edwards? Honestly, I could care less, before today, I would have told you I would like to see him get the last year of his contract to see if he could get these young guys he drafted to play some football. I don’t think it’s going to happen. It would be very unique to have a new GM come into an organization and keep the existing coach, especially a GM that is not going to be associated with the Chiefs prior to being hired.
What will happen to Tyler Thigpen? I think if Herm keeps his job, then the job will be Tyler’s come training camp–if Herm is gone, I can’t say and neither can Tyler. What will happen to this “Arrowspread” offense we have seen work very well at times? I can see a new coach coming in and keeping Tyler and Chan Gailey–obviously the Chiefs have the ability to score points utilizing this offense.
What will happen to Gunther Cunningham? Gone. Along with the entire defensive coaching staff. Regardless what happens to Edwards, the defense needs purging. Not just the coaches, but the players as well. The display out there today, against the Bengals for Pete’s sake, a team without its two starting WR and its franchise QB was just almost too much to stomach. The defense has gotten worse, not better; it’s as clear as the nose on your face.
This season, regardless of where you stood on the idea of rebuilding, either you stood with the fans that stated; “Yeah, we know it’s going to be bad, but this team will be better off in the seasons to come.” Or if you stood with the fans that said “Regardless of rebuilding or not, this team shouldn’t be this bad.” The season turned out worse than you predicted or ever thought it would. I thought honestly the Chiefs defense would be the glue holding the team together, allowing them to finish 7-9 or 8-8. Shows what I know. The defensive line couldn’t stop the run, the linebackers never showed up and the best piece of the defense was a trio of rookies in the backfield.
This defense as a whole is the worst in the history of the NFL for the least amount of sacks in one season.
Major changes are coming friends, and I can’t wait-the bigger the better in my opinion. The front office needs gutted and a lot of the players as well. Absolute destruction of this football team is what is needed or we will be right back in this position again next year. The attitude of this organization is losing, culture needs changing from the top down. Get a coach that isn’t all huggy huggy with the players and not scared to chew on their ass every now and then. Tank Tyler is a back up player at best, Tamba Hali is looking like a bust, the Chiefs have no right defensive end, they need 3 starting linebackers. Larry Johnson is a question mark for next year, as well as Tony Gonzalez. The offensive line still needs some help, they looked better because Tyler was in the shot gun formation most of the time and got rid of the ball early.
This is Clark Hunt’s time to put his stamp on the Kansas City Chiefs–the first domino has fallen. What happens next? You and me both will just have to wait and see–I guess that’s yet one more reason I love football.
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I think you might be geting ahead of yourself here. We have known holes at ILB, OLB, rDE, C, rOG, rOT.
Now you are suggesting scrapping another OLB Derick Johnson; A LDT Tank Tyler; A lDE Tamba Hali.
Just how many top draft picks do you think we will have this year?
You might be right, they may have to go. But, your talking about a 3 year rebuilding plan. Not what we need to do this year.
DJ disappears but is workable at his position for now. Tamba Hali seems fine on production now that he is back at lDE. And, Tank Tyler might be a little light for now, but we are in for a penny in for a pound with this rebuild.
So stay calm, take a deep breath, and try to look at our excellent draft position objectively.
I will restate MASTERBLASTER’S MASTERPLAN to make you feel better
Trade down from third pick to seven-eleven pick.
Get a 1st and 2nd for this
1st Ray Malualuga ILB (Laurinaitis)(Curry)
2nd Brian Cushing OLB (Curry)(McRath)(Freeman)
2nd Alex Mack C (Luigs)(Caldwell)
3rd Phil Loadholt rOT (Tupou)(Boone)(Meredith)
3rd Fenuki Tupou rG (Cantfield)(Parker)
4th T. Cantfield rG (Parker)
we get our second 3rd from compensatory picks
we also get Suggs rDE as a free agent
See…now don’t you feel a little better?
As for my defense of Herm Edwards. Like Pilot, I wash my hands of him and give him to the mob. I sure am gona miss his drafts though.
If “Mangenius” can be fired after actually winning some games, then there is no reason to retain Harm. There are going to be some quality coaches available, and with the Lions keeping their management in house, we have a solid shot at Pioli. I’m thinking the Browns go with the chin for HC/GM.
My mom got me an authentic red LJ jersey for xmas. I smiled and thanked her, but I have a feeling that he’s going to be moved.
You are absolutely right Steven. The team appeared to not give a crap for the entirety of the game. I couldn’t even bear to watch half of the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th. I like your mock and think it’s well researched, but I doubt we’ll be able to trade down.
Alright, after hearing Gretz interview with LJ after the game, anybody want a brand spankin new authentic LJ jersey?
MasterBlaster;
I’m not getting ahead of myself at all…I’m just stating fact. Derrick Johnson couldn’t make it at OLB so they moved him inside where he continued to do little. Three starting linebackers are needed. I didn’t say they would get them, but they are needed.
Trading down sounds like a good thing to me, however it will take someone willing to move up.
“Tamba Hali seems fine on production now that he is back at lDE”
Are you serious with that statement? Hali, for where he was drafted should have had 10 sacks by himself this season. Sounds to me like you might want to take a deep breath. Cushing will be gone in the first round. Loadholt won’t be there in the third. Your masterplan doesn’t seem logical, maybe in the perfect world, but not for the real world.
Dr. Paine Says:
Alright, after hearing Gretz interview with LJ after the game, anybody want a brand spankin new authentic LJ jersey?
Not unless you want to send it to me to start a bon fire.
Master, I agree with your initial comments. This community always seems to think that the answer to an underperforming starter is to send him packing (Napolean Harris). That is great if you want to upgrade the position, but you still need capable back-ups. Do you honestly believe Rocky Boiman is a better option than Napolean Harris? I think not.
I think the obvious thing missing from the mock draft is a quarterback. Am I the only one that does not see Tyler Thigpen as the answer at QB? This guy could probably be considered the most dangerous rushing qb in the NFL today BUT……HE IS A TERRIBLE PASSER. Seriously, pretty much every throw he makes is off target. He is one of the most inaccurate NFL quarterbacks I have ever seen. I can live with mental mistakes from a young guy, but I don’t think you can teach a guy to throw a more accurate ball. I also don’t believe that he has the “IT” factor. He has had plenty of chances to lead this team to victories. That being said…in keeping with my earlier statements, I believe his play-making abilities warrant him a job as our back-up.
I couldn’t agree more with the assesments on Gunther. I was a big Gunther fan, but he has obviously lost this defense. If you are a parent you know that you can only yell and scream at your kids so much before it doesn’t work any more. Sooner or later you have to actually teach them some things.
Wow the AFC West is so good nobody can dominate!!
Some My Thoughts and Opinions:
The LJ Jersey is now worthless…
Derrick Johnson is overrated.
Tyler Thigpen is still a question mark. Will he get better, can he get better, will we be in the same sytem?
Tamba Hali, can do well with some help.. He had 54 tackles (placing him 11 out of all DLs) three sacks.
Jason Babin, needs to do a couple of spin moves instead up just rushing up field.. He should be a good back up next year.
Glen Dorsey is not a Bust…… He finished with 46 tackles (placing him 23rd overall re all DLs) he had one sack. I say decent for a rookie year.
Tank Tyler better step it up.
Turk McBride will get better.
Dwayne Bowe is getting better. he was 6th in the league for WRs: 86 catches 1,022 yards 11.9 average 7td (per nfl.com)
Mark Bradley dropped alot of balls at the end of the year… but is a good compliment.
Jamaal Charles is fast but not very smart.
Out young Corners are good.
Page and Pollard are average players.
Connar Barth should stick around.
Herm Edwards needs to go, pleeeeeeese!!!! I don’t care if the players want him.
It is going to be hard to find a GM and Headcoach due to all the competition and other openings.
Parcells anyone?
I’m going to ask my mom if she kept the receipt for the jersey. Which Chief jersey should I rock? I like less popular jerseys. I’m thinking Flowers. I played corner in high school, and he was our biggest steal of many draft steals last year.
ESPN reported this morning that Marty was interviewed by Clark Hunt for the VP position similiar to what Parcells position is in Miami.
Now that the season is over, I want to know who else is being interviewed and has anyone see Cowher around town? I know Cleveland wants him, but I think Clark needs to get in the mix.
My concern about Marty, is I don’t know if he’ll fire Herm. As much as I hate to say, its time for “Gun” to go. I am more concerned about the scheme of the Defense than the performance. I actually think the front line is being taught to stand up the lineman and let the backers fill the gaps. At least that would excuse the lack of pass rush. either way, we have a lot of young talent and its time.
The mock draft has us picking the QB from Georgia (3rd overall). Don’t remember his name (brain freeze). LJ and his big contract is the BIGGEST bust! I like Charles as a back-up but I want another running back with Priest Holmses ATTITUDE!
D. Johnson may be overrated but he is a shining star compared to the others. We need LB’s in a big way. This is not a year to avoid some Free Agents who can provide some leadership to the youth movement. Donovan is not what I’m talking about. We need help on the O Line.
Clark, this is not a time to be bashful with your checkbook on your GM or his team of coaches. We need a new attitude and that may include (gulp!) PAYING Herm to LEAVE town. “you play to win the game” has not served well in 2 seasons. I hope you quote that when you hand him his pink slip
I said it once, and I’ll say it again. If we let Marty Ball stink anywhere near this new rebuilding team, I’m joining the Raiders Nation!
Steven…
I want to see how DJ does next to Maligula and cushing if we can get them. If he doesn’t step up his game, then we can talk “giving him the axe”
Hard to trade down? we are in the perfect position for a trade down. Crabtree is the perfect trade bait. Crabtree should bounce over the lions and the rams. A short list of teams that might take Crabtree with their 1st and 2nd to bounce him over the competition. Seahawks, Browns, Raiders, 49ers, etc. I think there hasn’t been a better opportunity for trade down since the browns gave up their two 1st’s and a 2nd for Joe Thomas in the 3rd 07 draft.
Hali started putting together sacks once they moved him back lDE. If he would have been there all season, he probably would have been at about 6 sacks (give or take). Hell Terell Suggs is in the 6-8 sack territory. That’s good. Don’t be holding your breath for the reincarnation of the “one man gang”. Unless maybe we pick up peppers. Pick-a-pepper *snicker*.
Cushing very well “might” be there second pick in the 2nd. It’s Curry that probably wont be there.
And yah, Loadholt will probably go in the second. MASTERBLASTER’S MASTERPLAN hasn’t been updated in a few months. I’m waiting till after the season, after the Bowl games, and after we find out who is or isn’t going to declare. So take some of those choices with a grain of salt.
But on the other hand, when the real draft comes around, it is often surprising who will drop. On that note, how crazy would it be to offer LJ or Tony G. for Brian Brohm to Green Bay, straight up? In a way, that is getting a 2nd rounder for LJ or Tony G. What u guys think?
Dave…
The Napolean Harris question is a tricky one. No I don’t think that Rocky Boiman is the better solution. But at the same time, I think it was time for Harris to go. Harris was old, he represented the old regeime’s ideas. He also may have been a cancer in that position saying “hey its ok to be good and underperform”
DJ, on the other hand, is still young, was a 1st round draft pick, and “may” still be salvagable.
I would rather there be a culture on this team of “hey! if you have tallent and you underperform your out!” rather than “hey, if you have tallent and you underperform we will keep you around for depth” Fear needs to be generated on this team to keep the potential pikers motivated. This isn’t collecting a fat pay check! This is War! This is the NFL!
As far as Thighpen goes, He might not be the answer ;but I think he should be considered good enough to keep us from doing something really really stupid. Taking “Blackledge i mean Stafford” in the draft. Bradford yes…Stafford nooooooo.
MasterBlaster!!!!
You are out of your freakin mind if we trade LJ OR Tony G for Brohm!!! There are better options than that. I know he was picked in the second round but I’ll pass.
I’ll stick with Thiggy Smalls please!!!!
I agree with you saying he is good enough for us not doing something stupid.
Bye Bye Gunther kick rocks Moe-Foe
Shouldn’t Herm Edwards begging and pleading for his job!!!????
I would be saying: “we are so close, I started this rebuidling process and I know it will work, I just need another year to prove it, I really want to stay, you will see”….
Instead he seems so non-chalant about it. Sounds like he knows the end is near.
He is in a dream job, paying him millions, I would be begging for that final year of my contract, at least the fans would know he cares…..
Yes, I know he still gets paid even if he is fired. But I would still want to prove myself.
If your not a Chiefs fan Herm has a decent reputation in some circles, a desparate man begging for his current job probably wont be extended many offers if he loses his current job.
Until we have a GM, Herm ‘begging’ does nothing positive. Basically, he is a goner like most coaches when the GM changes.
Anybody think of a situation like this where the ooach was kept at the helm?