I don’t know how the Chiefs lost that game.
I can’t do it this week. Of all the losses the Chiefs have this season, this one hurt the worst. They shoudn’t have lost this one, San Diego had no business winning that game. Screw “giving credit” to the other team, they had no business winning that one.
I don’t know what to say…I have no words. Defense sucks? Fire Herm? Gunther’s got to go? Defensive staff needs dismissed immediately if not sooner? What just happened? Maybe all of these, I don’t know. Let’s talk about something else, something to get our minds off this one…perhaps the draft.
Best Guess?
If Sam Bradford and the Oklahoma Sooners win the National Championship then I think Sam will choose to come out early. If they don’t then he will play the “…I still have something to prove” card. Or the “…I’m just having too much fun…” card instead of making millions of millions of dollars that Colt McCoy played earlier in the week when he declared that going to Texas was just too much fun for him to leave and become an instant millionaire. That in my opinion is bull, he wants to win a National title, I’m not saying I blame him, but come on.
So let’s say Sam leaves, my best guess is the Chiefs will target him as their #1 guy. IF Detroit does in fact pick Matt Stafford, which isn’t a given, then the Chiefs will take Bradford. They can’t afford not too regardless of what you think about Tyler Thigpen. Imagine they pass on Bradford and he goes on to be a HOF quarterback, kinda like the Chiefs passing on Dan Marino to take Todd Blackledge-how did that work out?
They will bring Bradford in and he will be the #2 Quarterback behind Tyler Thigpen. After that it is pretty simple, if Tyler proves he can continue to play at a high level and be a first string NFL quarterback then the Chiefs will be faced with a problem every team would like to have–two quality quarterbacks on the roster. If the Chiefs go 0-4 starting out next season with Thigpen at the helm then he gets yanked for the heralded rookie out of Oklahoma and we see what happens.
What if Bradford doesn’t come out or is drafted before the Chiefs?
Todd McShay from Scouts INC. has Bradford rated higher than Stafford (for whatever that is worth) but believes many teams will feel better about Stafford because he has the stronger arm and when given adequate time in the pocket has the ability to make every throw in the book. He is older and with that comes the perception of him being able to read defenses a little better with more experience, whether that is true or not remains to be seen.
There is also the argument that Bradford had a lot more talent around him–I’m not sure how much that statement holds water. I don’t think the University of Georgia had or has trouble recruiting some pretty good offensive players to come to their University. Stafford’s biggest problem was he lost his LT before the season ever started, didn’t have the luxury of time when trying to read opposing teams defenses, especially in the tough SEC where speed is the key.
Regardless, if Bradford is not there for whatever reason then I’m sure the Chiefs will stick with their “best player on their board” mentality. I’m still not sure what to think about that, obviously the Chiefs need help at linebacker and pass rusher, so would they take Michael Jenkins CB from OSU if he was available because he is highest on their board? I wouldn’t think so considering what Carr, Flowers and Leggett have done this season but Herm has made it very clear to anyone that will listen he is not going to reach for a player regardless of how badly that position is needed on the roster. Of course we all know Carl Peterson is making the final call, unless that changes in three weeks or so, then I’m not sure it’s going to matter a whole bunch who or what position the Chiefs select come April.
What do I think the Chiefs should do?
Thanks for asking. I think the Chiefs need defensive help more than offensive. The only problem is I’m not sure there is a defensive player worth taking with the high pick the Chiefs are going to possess. If my math is correct and please let me know if it’s not, then the Chiefs are now in line to pick 3rd overall-what defensive player coming out this year right now is worth the number 3 pick? I think the Chiefs should try and trade out of the spot, I know I know-easier said than done. This is true, but I think it can be done, remember last year the Saints approached the Chiefs about trading the 5th pick in last years draft so they could draft Glenn Dorsey, the Chiefs declined so it can happen. Trade back and pick up a D-Lineman or Linebacker, if they can’t move back then QB or perhaps Crabtree.
I’d really like to see them get Terrence Cody out of Alabama. Please dont’ give me the “he’s a 34 NT not a 43 DT” crap either. He is a football player who clogs up the middle just by his mere size alone. Pat Williams has done well up in Minnesota as well as Grady Jackson where he has played. The Chiefs need a fat body to play along side Dorsey that requires two blockers to handle. Just a thought, throw it out there to see what you guys think.
I’ll try anything to get my mind off yesterday.
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i dont think we should bring in a rookie QB and try rebuilding another year…
I agree with that statement. Tyler and co. can put 20-30 points on the board, the defense needs help/improvement/swift kick in the pants.
I just know all the pundits and “tim throats” as Gretz calls them spewing forth how int he world the Chiefs could pass on Bradford 5-10 years from now.
If Herm states he is sticking with the “arrowspread” offense (great name btw, I first saw it on arrowheadpride.com) then Tyler is the man.
If Bradford is there, we take him. If he’s not and we can find a trading partner then that’s we do. There’s plenty of guys who can help us if we’re lucky enough to get a pick somewhere in the 9 to 19 range. If nobody is interested in taking our slot then I think its a given we go with the best available OT.
If we go OT, where are you putting him DD? Move Albert inside after doing a pretty darn good job at LT this season. Or are you putting him at RT? Seems awful high to draft a Right tackle to me, but I couldn’t argue the pick if that’s what it turns out to be.
I don’t see how taking one of the top 2 OTs could hurt us. If we did that, my inclination would be to move Albert. For example, we know Albert can play RG which would then allow for us to slide Waters over to C. Another option would be to see if Albert can play RT. Either way, I see our OL getting a much needed upgrade and addressing the need that is bound to arise whenever Waters decides to retire.
I think a persons opinion depends on what brought Thigpens talent out. If you think it was the coaching staff then maybe we could bring a draft pick around. I personally would like to see what we could do with a drafted qb.
The tackle from Alabama is actually named Terrence Cody, not Shaun. Shaun Cody plays for the Lions.
As for Terrence Cody, he is definitely a mountain of a man, and while on first blush it makes sense to pair him up with Dorsey to compensate for Dorsey’s lack of size, the problem is that Dorsey is a one gap type of guy and Cody is a two gapper. Also, Dorsey was always paired up with another undersized tackle in his LSU days. It now appears that a lot of Dorsey’s college success might have been attributable to LSU’s gang tackling.
That is not to say Cody wouldn’t be a good player for the Chiefs — I think the Chiefs could definitely use a widebody to clog the middle — it’s just that I think it’s a mistake to assume that Dorsey would flourish next to him.
I’m not giving up on Dorsey quite yet, Tank Tyler is the one I have pretty much given up on. He will be a good player to spell a starter if the Chiefs find one, however he has proven in now his second season he can’t move the guard in front on him or go around him on a consistent basis.
Terrance…yes, my bad. I’m pretty good about googling when I’m in doubt, but for some reason that name was stuck in my mind. Thanks for the correction.
Steven, other than say Turk McBride, what DL taken in the first three rounds of the ‘06 draft would you consider better than Tank at this point?
Steven,
Some great points.
Talent around the QB. That is one big reason — not the only one, mind you — that I preferred Ryan to Brohm and liked him so much. B.C. won because of him, instead of him winning because of B.C. Flacco, too. They weren’t in danger of being system guys either.
Not sure you can make that argument for Stafford or Bradford. Bradford doesn’t seem like he’s faced much adversity yet either. That also worries me, because here he would.
Then there’s the having two QBs problem. I always say I’d rather have two good QBs then none.
Solid post, Steve.
I think if Bradford comes out he will be the top QB taken, no question…I would even support trading up to get him…The prospect of Matt Stafford as a pro quarterback makes Georgia fans I know chuckle heartily…
I think we will do DE 1st rd….Hopefully Cushing 2nd Rd….Rg or C 3rd…
Albert moving to RG wouldnt allow Waters (a Left Guard) to slide anywhere…lol
sorry for the tone…I am not trying to be A-hole-ish lol
I think Tank has actually looked the last two weeks, escpecially yesterday. He is starting to play with more fire and confidence. I looked to me that alot of the extra pass rush yesterday was a result of Tank collapsing the pocket.
And since no-one else has said it yet, I will…
Welcome to the NFL Will Franklin. Nice to see him finally show up.
Nice gotcha. I meant to say slide Albert to LG and then move Waters to C (a position he also knows and can play).
I’d say it’s highly debatable whether it would make a whole lot of sense to take a DE with a top 5 pick. Not sure the available talent merits it. We’re basically talking about either Orakpo or Johnson. The more I look at it, the more comfortable I’m becoming with who is available in the first couple of rounds and our ability to get who/what we need there. Forgetting about Bradford for the moment, there’s still seems to be quite a few good picks to choose from among OL, LB, DE, WR, S, and even CB. We should be in pretty good shape no matter where we fall. If we can trade down, so much the better.
Wow, all the articles from the Star are pretty harsh. I think we are looking better every week.
Am I mad we lost? Yeah, but what would a win do for us. Would it give us confidence? A little, but so what. It was a crazy ending, and it should open up more eyes. Our season is already lost.
The fact of the matter is: Herm will be here next year. Chiefs fans can bitch and moan about it, or hope for the best. I am hoping for the best. We will get better. I don’t know what elese to say. This season cannot get over fast enough. We will be competitive again. At this point, I still enjoy watching the games, win or lose. GO CHIEFS
As far as the draft. Trade down from the first pick and grab some linebackers, at least two in the first 4 rounds.
Tyler Thigpen is only going to get better with more games. Staticstically, he is doing well. Better than Grbac, Bono, Gannon, and (Green in the later years). All QBs who were supposedly more experienced that him. Keep him in there, and draft a QB from a spread offense after second round for competition. Losing sucks, and and bleeding for a team who is losing constantly sucks too. But we all know it will turn around.
If the Chiefs can get a good defensive lineman or linebacker via free agency doesn’t that give us a lot more flexibility in the draft? That probably just makes too much sense for the chiefs to do though.
doc – Ed Zachary
Double D…I dont know as much about the top DE talent so you are probably right lol…
Jeremy, You are very correct, all the Star’s stuff this week was awful…I stopped reading Whitlock’s article this week when I scanned down and saw him say that he would question all the picks the last two years simply because D-Bowe dropped the onside kick…it was a freak thing where a guy put a hat on it and knocked it loose…Whitlock infuriates me with his stupidity and Im not letting him win by going back for more every week lol…
King Carl just resigned effective at the end of the season!!! No shit – check it out:
“http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/937972.html”
Carl Peterson has just resigned! I’ve got a link in a previous post “awaiting moderation”.
CARL RESIGNS….EFFECTIVE AT THE END OF THE SEASON!!!!!
Man you guys are all over the place when it comes to what we should do with our draft picks.
Tank Tyler: In for a penny, in for a pound. We picked the guy up in the 3rd round. That is a substantial pick. We have WAY too many holes in other positions to be tinkering with that one with a 1st rounder. Beat him with a hammer till he works.
Pick another Corner? We have good conerbacks coming out of our ears!
A DE? You guys know what a risky proposition it is to draft a true rushing DE. Its almost as risky as a QB.
A QB. Ok, If Bradford declares, grab him. I’m not letting another Dan Marino slip through our fingers.
Other than that, my draft proposition remains unchanged
Trade down as far as we can to get Malegula ILB. Then Alex Mack C in the 2nd. If we can get Cushing in the 2nd I could be swayed. If we could get a decent trade down we might get both. Deal with the O line right side in the 3rd and 4th. Loadholt, Toupoi, et. all.
Im just wondering if Carl going signals that Herm will go too. Can we PLEASE keep him till after the draft? He is good at that.
I really like the idea of Sam Bradford, also love the acknowledgment of Terrance Cody (Beast). I wouldn’t mind picking up Ray Maluaga to play MLB. When are we going to find a kicker that isn’t going to let us down. For gods sake we dealt with Louis Aguilar for way to long and Morton Anderson has been the only alright kicker since then. I know a kicker isn’t a qb.
I’m starting to lean more towards Laurinaitis over Maualuga. I love Maualuga’s attitude and mean streak but I feel that because Laurinaitis comes from a 4-3 system and has both the experience and ability to play all three LB positions that he may be the better fit for our D.
I like Laurinaitis and all but it just seems to me that we need a player like a Troy Palamalou or even a Shaun Cody with the Lions. He’s a Jared Allen playing DT. Even a Willie MicGinnest or a Lofa Tatupa. USC breeds defensive captains. I just wish we had Jared Allen.