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		<title>By: mushin9</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/12/15/king-carl-resignation-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-22048</link>
		<dc:creator>mushin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohh and Randy....


&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh and Randy&#8230;.</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: mushin9</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/12/15/king-carl-resignation-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-22047</link>
		<dc:creator>mushin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pollard is a good saftey, that is servicable. He has issues with tackling. The biggest problem that Pollard has is that he is being asked to be the heart of the defense. If he had some MLB support, it wouldn&#039;t look so bad. But those plays where a TE gets behind the 2nd level, or he has to cover and goes to make a tackle using his shoulder kills. He needs to know the situation. When a back is in traffic and you&#039;ve got 5 Chiefs converging, lay him out. When it&#039;s you and god between the guy with the ball and the endzone, wrap up. I must say he has improved, but KC is still dealing with big play problems and Pollard and Page&#039;s tackling skills are at the heart of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pollard is a good saftey, that is servicable. He has issues with tackling. The biggest problem that Pollard has is that he is being asked to be the heart of the defense. If he had some MLB support, it wouldn&#8217;t look so bad. But those plays where a TE gets behind the 2nd level, or he has to cover and goes to make a tackle using his shoulder kills. He needs to know the situation. When a back is in traffic and you&#8217;ve got 5 Chiefs converging, lay him out. When it&#8217;s you and god between the guy with the ball and the endzone, wrap up. I must say he has improved, but KC is still dealing with big play problems and Pollard and Page&#8217;s tackling skills are at the heart of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um I supported Pollard on the shout box and cyber eggs were thrown at me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um I supported Pollard on the shout box and cyber eggs were thrown at me</p>
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		<title>By: the hammer formerly known as g.l.</title>
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		<dc:creator>the hammer formerly known as g.l.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pollard would be just fine if he weren&#039;t stuck in the Cover Two.  Probably the main reason our defense has some raw talent and has looked so dismal on the field is because of the &quot;stinkin&#039; Cover Two&quot;.  Cover Two?  Cover Two?  We don&#039;t need no &quot;stinkin&#039; cover Two&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pollard would be just fine if he weren&#8217;t stuck in the Cover Two.  Probably the main reason our defense has some raw talent and has looked so dismal on the field is because of the &#8220;stinkin&#8217; Cover Two&#8221;.  Cover Two?  Cover Two?  We don&#8217;t need no &#8220;stinkin&#8217; cover Two&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: mushin9</title>
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		<dc:creator>mushin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double D, 

I think you just answered your own question. The only players even approaching leadership is Hali and Pollard which probably explains a lot...

I like Pollard&#039;s ability, but your saftey shouldn&#039;t be out there playing like he&#039;s a CB gambling on help over the top. He is the help over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double D, </p>
<p>I think you just answered your own question. The only players even approaching leadership is Hali and Pollard which probably explains a lot&#8230;</p>
<p>I like Pollard&#8217;s ability, but your saftey shouldn&#8217;t be out there playing like he&#8217;s a CB gambling on help over the top. He is the help over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: Double D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the big knock on Pollard? If he&#039;s being forced to make open-field, solo tackles all the time, more than anything that just means the front 7 are crap.  Pollard is the closest thing we&#039;ve got to an actual &quot;leader&quot; on defense. If not him, then who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the big knock on Pollard? If he&#8217;s being forced to make open-field, solo tackles all the time, more than anything that just means the front 7 are crap.  Pollard is the closest thing we&#8217;ve got to an actual &#8220;leader&#8221; on defense. If not him, then who?</p>
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		<title>By: mushin9</title>
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		<dc:creator>mushin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Master,


I won&#039;t just argue those picks, I&#039;ll scream them:

Jared Page: Home run for a 7th round pick. Bad angles, can&#039;t tackle

Bernard Pollard: See Page minus the home run part

Flowers, Carr, Legette: Look great for rookies, but just like it&#039;s stupid calling Dorsey a bust after one season, it&#039;s just as dumb calling these guys future HOF&#039;ers

Cox: A decent FB that may pan out...we will see

Glen Dorsey: See the CB&#039;s

Hali: Have you been watching this season?

Albert: Arguably the most impressive rookie of the bunch, but so was Hali in his first year (Hali, are you serious?)

Jamaal Charles: Not enough work to know. He shows flashes, and then he drops the ball

Kolby: How in the world did this name get on here?!?!?!

Bowe: HOME RUN!!!!

Will Franklin: He&#039;s played in three games. Last week was nice, and the first drive in the first pre-season game was fantastic. Don&#039;t get ahead of yourself.

Mark Bradley: He looked great for 3 games, and wasn&#039;t the knock on him in Chicago that he never stayed on the field....

Thigpen: HOME RUN for a 7th round pick stolen through waivers.


Plus, I think you left a few off the Marty era list:

Marty:

DERRICK FRIGGIN THOMAS!!!!!
Grunhard
Szott
Dale Carter
Will Shields
Jerome Woods &amp; Reggie Tongue (If you add Page and Pollard, these guys make the list too)
Donnie Edwards
Joe Horn
Tony Gonzalez


If you want to count all the &quot;could of beens&quot; then that list would be much larger. Vanover comes to mind. 

And don&#039;t forget the free agents. Please god don&#039;t forget the free agents. Every FA that Herm has targeted (with maybe the exception of Bradly, but we just don&#039;t know) has been at best a fill in guy, at worst an outright bust.

DeMarrio Williams
Nap Harris
Boone
Law


Herm has made some good drafting moves, maybe. He definitely picked based on potential, and you can&#039;t argue with that, but let&#039;s wait a few years before we start buying tickets to Canton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Master,</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t just argue those picks, I&#8217;ll scream them:</p>
<p>Jared Page: Home run for a 7th round pick. Bad angles, can&#8217;t tackle</p>
<p>Bernard Pollard: See Page minus the home run part</p>
<p>Flowers, Carr, Legette: Look great for rookies, but just like it&#8217;s stupid calling Dorsey a bust after one season, it&#8217;s just as dumb calling these guys future HOF&#8217;ers</p>
<p>Cox: A decent FB that may pan out&#8230;we will see</p>
<p>Glen Dorsey: See the CB&#8217;s</p>
<p>Hali: Have you been watching this season?</p>
<p>Albert: Arguably the most impressive rookie of the bunch, but so was Hali in his first year (Hali, are you serious?)</p>
<p>Jamaal Charles: Not enough work to know. He shows flashes, and then he drops the ball</p>
<p>Kolby: How in the world did this name get on here?!?!?!</p>
<p>Bowe: HOME RUN!!!!</p>
<p>Will Franklin: He&#8217;s played in three games. Last week was nice, and the first drive in the first pre-season game was fantastic. Don&#8217;t get ahead of yourself.</p>
<p>Mark Bradley: He looked great for 3 games, and wasn&#8217;t the knock on him in Chicago that he never stayed on the field&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thigpen: HOME RUN for a 7th round pick stolen through waivers.</p>
<p>Plus, I think you left a few off the Marty era list:</p>
<p>Marty:</p>
<p>DERRICK FRIGGIN THOMAS!!!!!<br />
Grunhard<br />
Szott<br />
Dale Carter<br />
Will Shields<br />
Jerome Woods &amp; Reggie Tongue (If you add Page and Pollard, these guys make the list too)<br />
Donnie Edwards<br />
Joe Horn<br />
Tony Gonzalez</p>
<p>If you want to count all the &#8220;could of beens&#8221; then that list would be much larger. Vanover comes to mind. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget the free agents. Please god don&#8217;t forget the free agents. Every FA that Herm has targeted (with maybe the exception of Bradly, but we just don&#8217;t know) has been at best a fill in guy, at worst an outright bust.</p>
<p>DeMarrio Williams<br />
Nap Harris<br />
Boone<br />
Law</p>
<p>Herm has made some good drafting moves, maybe. He definitely picked based on potential, and you can&#8217;t argue with that, but let&#8217;s wait a few years before we start buying tickets to Canton</p>
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		<title>By: MasterBlaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>MasterBlaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See I completely disagree with geting rid of herm now.  I have always said.  Give him one more year.  Before I thought that was a shoe in.  Now im a little bit worried.  This is why we shouldn&#039;t get rid of herm...

1.  Herm has a great repore with the players.  He is like training wheels for the young chiefs.  I think they need one more year to come together and solidify that core.

3.  Herm is AWESOME at putting us in a position to draft tallent.  Which we (chiefs nation) knew is what we really needed to build a real playoff team.  4-12; 2-14.  Music to my ears.  Just so long as we dont develope a &quot;Lions&quot; complex.

2.  Herm and Co. Can evaluate tallent.  Really.  After these next 2 games Herm is going to do what he does best.  Draft.

let me give you guys an example...

(Marty)    Tony G
(Marty)    Brian Waters
(Marty)    Alphanso Boone

(Vermile)  Larry Johnson
(Vermile)  Damion McIntosh

now...

(Herm)     Jared Page
(Herm)     Bernard Pollard
(Herm)     Brandon Flowers
(Herm)     Brandon Carr
(Herm)     Maruice Legitte
(Herm)     Mike Cox
(Herm)     Glen Dorsey
(Herm)     Tomba Hali (on the left side at least)
(Herm)     Brandon Albert
(Herm)     Jamaal Charles
(Herm)     Colby Smith
(Herm)     Dwayne Bow
(Herm)     Will Franklin
(Herm)     Mark Bradley   (off waivers!)
(Herm)     Tyler Thighpen (off waivers!)

Now you might make argument with a few of these choices as &quot;home runs&quot; but only a few.  I want another frickin Herm draft.  After that.  Then you can pick a new coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I completely disagree with geting rid of herm now.  I have always said.  Give him one more year.  Before I thought that was a shoe in.  Now im a little bit worried.  This is why we shouldn&#8217;t get rid of herm&#8230;</p>
<p>1.  Herm has a great repore with the players.  He is like training wheels for the young chiefs.  I think they need one more year to come together and solidify that core.</p>
<p>3.  Herm is AWESOME at putting us in a position to draft tallent.  Which we (chiefs nation) knew is what we really needed to build a real playoff team.  4-12; 2-14.  Music to my ears.  Just so long as we dont develope a &#8220;Lions&#8221; complex.</p>
<p>2.  Herm and Co. Can evaluate tallent.  Really.  After these next 2 games Herm is going to do what he does best.  Draft.</p>
<p>let me give you guys an example&#8230;</p>
<p>(Marty)    Tony G<br />
(Marty)    Brian Waters<br />
(Marty)    Alphanso Boone</p>
<p>(Vermile)  Larry Johnson<br />
(Vermile)  Damion McIntosh</p>
<p>now&#8230;</p>
<p>(Herm)     Jared Page<br />
(Herm)     Bernard Pollard<br />
(Herm)     Brandon Flowers<br />
(Herm)     Brandon Carr<br />
(Herm)     Maruice Legitte<br />
(Herm)     Mike Cox<br />
(Herm)     Glen Dorsey<br />
(Herm)     Tomba Hali (on the left side at least)<br />
(Herm)     Brandon Albert<br />
(Herm)     Jamaal Charles<br />
(Herm)     Colby Smith<br />
(Herm)     Dwayne Bow<br />
(Herm)     Will Franklin<br />
(Herm)     Mark Bradley   (off waivers!)<br />
(Herm)     Tyler Thighpen (off waivers!)</p>
<p>Now you might make argument with a few of these choices as &#8220;home runs&#8221; but only a few.  I want another frickin Herm draft.  After that.  Then you can pick a new coach.</p>
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		<title>By: CHIEFS FAN IN CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHIEFS FAN IN CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents: (quote)

&quot;Under Cowher, the Steelers showed an immediate improvement from the disappointing 7-9 season the year before, going 11-5 and earning home field advantage in the AFC after the Steelers had missed the playoffs six times out of the previous seven years. In 1995, at age 38, he became the youngest coach to lead his team to a Super Bowl. Cowher is only the second coach in NFL history to lead his team to the playoffs in each of his first six seasons as head coach.&quot;

I got a woody when I read that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents: (quote)</p>
<p>&#8220;Under Cowher, the Steelers showed an immediate improvement from the disappointing 7-9 season the year before, going 11-5 and earning home field advantage in the AFC after the Steelers had missed the playoffs six times out of the previous seven years. In 1995, at age 38, he became the youngest coach to lead his team to a Super Bowl. Cowher is only the second coach in NFL history to lead his team to the playoffs in each of his first six seasons as head coach.&#8221;</p>
<p>I got a woody when I read that!</p>
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		<title>By: the hammer formerly known as g.l.</title>
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		<dc:creator>the hammer formerly known as g.l.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Clark Hunt actually had a &quot;set&quot;, the end of this season would be the perfect time to show Herm Edwards the door.  I have seen enough of Herm&#039;s ineffective defense, and I definitely don&#039;t want to see the offense regress after this year.  Here are the words Clarky Baby, &quot;Clean slate, clean slate!!!!!!!&quot;  Remember them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Clark Hunt actually had a &#8220;set&#8221;, the end of this season would be the perfect time to show Herm Edwards the door.  I have seen enough of Herm&#8217;s ineffective defense, and I definitely don&#8217;t want to see the offense regress after this year.  Here are the words Clarky Baby, &#8220;Clean slate, clean slate!!!!!!!&#8221;  Remember them!!!</p>
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