Jeremy, I’m all for second chances in life. Just the way I am.

Krans, I disagree, but I understand.

Tim, that’s probably the best comment I’ve ever seen you make, and they are all pretty good, so…

Vick may be a gifted athlete but he has never proven himself to be a gifted NFL quarterback.

Once Vick is released from prison, he will very likely then face additional punishment from the NFL because Goodell has yet to make any kind of determination on that account. What that means is that in all likelihood Vick will get at least a year’s suspension. Bottom line, that will put him at least 3 years removed from the game.

Considering the time he will have spent away from the game, the fact that he never really showed a lot as an NFL QB, and his off-the-field image problems, it’s hard for me to see how he would be worth all the trouble for any team. Vick may get a look somewhere, someday (Dallas? Minnesota?) but unless he can pull off a miracle, I highly doubt he’ll be anybody’s franchise qb ever again.

Let me start by saying Vick was one of my favorite players to watch, hes so incredibly athletic and filled with potential.

Having said that after hearing about the dog incidents i lost all respect for him entirely. I understand people make mistakes but thats just ridiculously cruel, it wasn’t just dogfighting it was the pain and torment he would put the dogs through thereafter if they didn’t perform.

Look i hope Vick somehow becomes a better person, but to be quite frank i wouldn’t feel sorry for the guy if he never enjoyed a NFL snap again and lived a miserable life. Yea i’m an animal lover, but anyone who has ever owned a dog who meant a lot to you then read about the shit Vick did wouldn’t respect this SOB, seriously you have to be messed up in the head to do some of those things.

SO in conclusion, i would side with carl on this one, i’ve been a chiefs fan since i was about 6 but if they signed Vick i’d pretty much lose respect for the organization.