Comments on: Chiefs Comment Vlog: Vick-tim Of Hypocrisy?

By: thelandryhat

thelandryhat — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:21:26 +0000

Animal Hater,
You should be ashamed of yourself. Your attempt to criticize me was ill. I am not making posts praising Pacman Jones. And, Pacman Jones did not cripple anyone, animal hater. He didn’t pull the trigger. Michael Vick is the most notorious football criminal and you know it.

By: woody

woody — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:16:05 +0000

correction: that cat’s pajama’s dude may not love the Chiefs…so not all…but most

By: woody

woody — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:53:10 +0000

Soooooooo anyways…that’s that…we are American’s who all love the country…and love the Chiefs…

I forgive Vick for his crimes and hope he gains the wisdom to avoid the people who got him into such garbage to begin with…But he is not for the Chiefs…Whoever put it earlier had a great point…he has about the same accuracy as Thigpen and for all we know doesnt even run as fast as Bones anymore…He won’t work out here…

Clark needs to get a pair and offer Bill Cowher everything he wants to come here and rebuild our organization…

By: Adam Best

Adam Best — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:37:30 +0000

Cat Crave,

I knew this would veer off track, but in my eyes the hypocrisy could not be ignored. Simply felt that I had to open this can of worms. Enjoyed your commentary as always…

By: Adam Best

Adam Best — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:35:32 +0000

Sudden, that’s the difference in our opinions. I think Bush and his cronies knew exactly what they were doing, and it didn’t really have anything to do with keeping our nation safe. There was no good faith, there were no good intentions. It wasn’t a lack of judgment (maybe a Congressional lack of judgment, but they were fed misinformation), it was a lack of morality. I honestly think Bush was just as aware of what he was doing, if not more so, than Vick. That is why I made the comparison and stick by my comparison. To me it isn’t a stretch at all. Not at all.

By the way, I’m not for nation building either, unless it’s Chiefs Nation or restoring the broken one we live in. I’m honestly not sure which is a bigger mess: Us (Chiefs) or the US?

By: CatCrave

CatCrave — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:14:44 +0000

TXCHIEFAN,

I actually do have a clue about AQ and the extremists. The reason for going to war was a lie. I know those groups mean us harm. The problem is that we have basically ignored areas where they train – namely Afghanistan and instead we spend our money in Iraq.

During my service days I worked in support of the first Iraq war and I’m proud of my service. But I will never again blindly follow anyone. We have to demand accountability from our leaders. If we don’t we’re all in for a fall.

I respect and admire your service. As a vet I know it’s hard work. You are to be commended for your sacrifice.

I guess there is a time and place for political talk and since we’re not on Politico then we probably should go back to football.

By: Sudden

Sudden — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:59:08 +0000

I’m unwilling to let the Bush thing go to bed just yet. I’ll respect that your opposition to the war was always there. My central point is that it makes for a poor analogy with the Vick thing because it was undertaken in good faith with an objective of keeping the nation safe. I agree with you that it doesn’t, but nonetheless, its intent wasn’t simply the joy of carnage but rather a calculated though ill-conceived national objective (self-defense by non-proliferation). Rarely do events that occur within the context of international relations analogize well with events at a more personal level. I share your views on the foreign policy for the most part (though I disapprove of the nation building attempt in Afghanistan as well), but I just really feel that comparing Vick’s crimes with Bush’s lack of judgment is a stretch. The central thing to keep in mind is that the war decision was made based on what the administration felt was in the best interest of the nation, and even if we don’t share the sentiment (which obviously neither of us do), I do consider it act performed in good faith but poor judgment.

By: Adam Best

Adam Best — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:15:38 +0000

TXCHIEFAN, I want to thank you again on behalf of this site and Chiefs Nation for everything you are doing for us and our great country overseas! Regardless of how we feel about foreign policy, we all love and are indebted to our troops.

By: Adam Best

Adam Best — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:13:20 +0000

Sudden, I voted for Gore and Kerry and always opposed the War in Iraq. No 20-20 hindsight here. There were no good reasons to go into Iraq. The real War on Terror is and has always been in Afghanistan and Pakistan

My point–and then I’ll be done talking about W, I swear–is that he cost people their lives because of his own personal agenda–the same thing Vick did with dogs, but with people! And, yes, he and his administration were completely behind what happened at Guantanamo Bay, for whoever tried to dispute that.

Now that we put the behavior (and Bush) thing to bed, barring that he keeps his nose clean, we’ll look at Vick the player.

By: Adam Best

Adam Best — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:03:57 +0000

This vlog was focused on the public’s perception of Vick. And there’s a big difference between what Michael Vick did and Dennis Hopper from speed. I mean, c’mon…still, I’m done with the “B” word after this last vlog.

You can find my more football-based thoughts on Vick at the following links, but there will be more on that as well…

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/16/cowher-vick-2009-a-post-game-report-requires-an-actual-game/

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/08/cowher-vick-2009-revisited/