Comments on: AADQ: Silver And Bleak? http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/ A Kansas City Chiefs blog Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:23:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: xxxlp http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23688 xxxlp Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:12:45 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23688 Ahh, and I waited for you to point those out, so I could say this: If he was undermined the whole time, and didn't have any say-so for a team he was the HEAD COACH of, then how in the world would you want to trade for him? He obviously had virtually no power, which means most of the 'talent upgrades' that you spoke of, are moot points, as they weren't under his discretion. Also, the point still stands, even if you want to include Kuharich in it as well, that Herm has had some very tasty drafts, back to his Jets days. Add on to that two very nicely done drafts in KC, and you can start putting two and two together. Why trade a proven drafting 'wizard', and I use that term loosely, as it's thrown around alot these days, for an unproven, incredibly young head coach? Especially, and probably more importantly, during a rebuilding period of our franchise. We need someone who can draft, and draft well. We need someone who commands respect, and gets young players to step-up. Kiffin is younger than some of the players on the squads, for crying out loud. Like I said, maybe one day, but to say that Kiffin would be better than Herm right at this moment, is like saying we should trade up for the number one pick, just to take Chase Daniel. Ahh, and I waited for you to point those out, so I could say this: If he was undermined the whole time, and didn’t have any say-so for a team he was the HEAD COACH of, then how in the world would you want to trade for him? He obviously had virtually no power, which means most of the ‘talent upgrades’ that you spoke of, are moot points, as they weren’t under his discretion. Also, the point still stands, even if you want to include Kuharich in it as well, that Herm has had some very tasty drafts, back to his Jets days. Add on to that two very nicely done drafts in KC, and you can start putting two and two together. Why trade a proven drafting ‘wizard’, and I use that term loosely, as it’s thrown around alot these days, for an unproven, incredibly young head coach? Especially, and probably more importantly, during a rebuilding period of our franchise. We need someone who can draft, and draft well. We need someone who commands respect, and gets young players to step-up. Kiffin is younger than some of the players on the squads, for crying out loud. Like I said, maybe one day, but to say that Kiffin would be better than Herm right at this moment, is like saying we should trade up for the number one pick, just to take Chase Daniel.

]]> By: Adam Best http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23687 Adam Best Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:23:55 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23687 Kiffin had an owner/GM that constantly undermined him. Apparently, defensive coordinator Rob Ryan answered only to Al Davis, and not Kiffin. I think Herm has a much better situation here. I give a lot of the draft credit to Bill Kuharich as well. Those are two points that HAD to be pointed out. Kiffin had an owner/GM that constantly undermined him. Apparently, defensive coordinator Rob Ryan answered only to Al Davis, and not Kiffin. I think Herm has a much better situation here. I give a lot of the draft credit to Bill Kuharich as well. Those are two points that HAD to be pointed out.

]]> By: xxxlp http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23686 xxxlp Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:58:30 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23686 Didn't say they were, in fact, I am just using that to, in a way, get back at all the people that said Devard would somehow magically turn into a legitimate number two receiver. Same goes for Webb. Meanwhile, where are we struggling at? The redzone, and right near the redzone, where the field is contracted, the passing lanes are tighter, and the receivers need better hands.. Catch my drift? :P But back to the main point; Kiffin. I didn't say either set of WR's is good, I said they were promising. But at least WE, under HERM, have A legitimate receiver. He's off to a so-so start, but then again, so is our whole offense. So Herm is bad, and Kiffin is/was good, eh? We had the WORST 12-game streak in the history of our franchise, and we still TIED the Raiders win/loss total dating back to the start of last year (5-15.) .250 winning percentage isn't good, any way you look at it, but at least Herm has a plausible excuse. We're rebuilding, as Vermiel left no Plan B, when his Flying Circus left town. We've started from scratch, and as such, Herm is expected to lose. I don't like Herm as well as pretty much anyone here, but he's one of the best drafters in the game today, he's just got a scout's eye. And he's better overall than Kiffin, I'll give him that, too. Didn’t say they were, in fact, I am just using that to, in a way, get back at all the people that said Devard would somehow magically turn into a legitimate number two receiver. Same goes for Webb. Meanwhile, where are we struggling at? The redzone, and right near the redzone, where the field is contracted, the passing lanes are tighter, and the receivers need better hands.. Catch my drift? :P

But back to the main point; Kiffin. I didn’t say either set of WR’s is good, I said they were promising. But at least WE, under HERM, have A legitimate receiver. He’s off to a so-so start, but then again, so is our whole offense.

So Herm is bad, and Kiffin is/was good, eh? We had the WORST 12-game streak in the history of our franchise, and we still TIED the Raiders win/loss total dating back to the start of last year (5-15.)
.250 winning percentage isn’t good, any way you look at it, but at least Herm has a plausible excuse. We’re rebuilding, as Vermiel left no Plan B, when his Flying Circus left town. We’ve started from scratch, and as such, Herm is expected to lose. I don’t like Herm as well as pretty much anyone here, but he’s one of the best drafters in the game today, he’s just got a scout’s eye. And he’s better overall than Kiffin, I’ll give him that, too.

]]> By: Adam Best http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23685 Adam Best Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:23:45 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23685 Our receivers minus Bowe are worse than theirs. That doesn't mean that either set is good. Our receivers minus Bowe are worse than theirs. That doesn’t mean that either set is good.

]]> By: xxxlp http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23684 xxxlp Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:17:08 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23684 Can't blame their receivers.. Their offense (and more specifically, JaMarcus Russel, Michael Bush, and Darren McFadden,) have a combined 10 fumbles LOST, between them already. It's 4 games into the season. That's crazy. None of the receivers have lost a fumble, or even fumbled, so they are clearly being hurt by bad QB play/RB mistakes. Also, Johnnie Lee Higgins, their returner, and definetly not their first string-WR, has only five yards less than Darling and Webb combined. Zach Miller, their TE, has only 23 yards less than Tony G. We only have 2 touchdowns out of our WR's (Both courtesy of Mr. Awesome,) and they have 3 between Higgins, Curry, and Lelie. If their WR's are pathetic, ours, minus D-Bowe, are even worse, which makes my point on the fact that Darling and Webb are disappointments (unless you predicted this, like me, and then they're playing just about like we thought.) And you can't say Herm has made us any worse, talent-wise. The additions of Dorsey, Tank, Turk, Taylor, Albert, all solidify our line positions, while other contributors like JamChar, D-Bowe, Carr, and Flowers, have stepped up big in their respective roles. I just can't understand an argument FOR Kiffen, even over the inadequate Herm. Can’t blame their receivers.. Their offense (and more specifically, JaMarcus Russel, Michael Bush, and Darren McFadden,) have a combined 10 fumbles LOST, between them already. It’s 4 games into the season. That’s crazy. None of the receivers have lost a fumble, or even fumbled, so they are clearly being hurt by bad QB play/RB mistakes. Also, Johnnie Lee Higgins, their returner, and definetly not their first string-WR, has only five yards less than Darling and Webb combined. Zach Miller, their TE, has only 23 yards less than Tony G. We only have 2 touchdowns out of our WR’s (Both courtesy of Mr. Awesome,) and they have 3 between Higgins, Curry, and Lelie.

If their WR’s are pathetic, ours, minus D-Bowe, are even worse, which makes my point on the fact that Darling and Webb are disappointments (unless you predicted this, like me, and then they’re playing just about like we thought.)

And you can’t say Herm has made us any worse, talent-wise. The additions of Dorsey, Tank, Turk, Taylor, Albert, all solidify our line positions, while other contributors like JamChar, D-Bowe, Carr, and Flowers, have stepped up big in their respective roles. I just can’t understand an argument FOR Kiffen, even over the inadequate Herm.

]]> By: Adam Best http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23683 Adam Best Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:31:41 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23683 The Raiders receiving corps is awful. Pathetic even. I think he's a better coach than Herm, and I think that his 2-1 record against Herm with two wins at Arrowhead supports my claim. The Raiders receiving corps is awful. Pathetic even. I think he’s a better coach than Herm, and I think that his 2-1 record against Herm with two wins at Arrowhead supports my claim.

]]> By: xxxlp http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23682 xxxlp Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:06:04 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23682 You must have smoked something today, Adam. We all bitch about Herm, but at least he has credentials NOW: namely, drafting superbly. Lane Kiffin has the Raiders playing better? Their D dropped from 3rd in the league (and that's while getting SMOKED, and being on the field ALL game long, while their offense BLEW,) to one of the worst D's last year. Their O isn't much better off, even with awesome RB depth, and promising young receivers (Curry, Higgins,) and the addition of Javon Walker. Lane hasn't improved that team, they had most of the talent already on that team, before he showed up, and added even more since he got there, and he STILL can't win. If you want to talk about how the Raiders were a few plays from being better this year, think about last year, when our Chiefs were a few plays/drives away from being closer to 10-6 than 4-12. It happens. Kiffin may come into his own as a coach, due to his youth, he's still pretty inexperienced, but Herm can at least help us draft well, which, for a rebuilding team, is key. I wouldn't take Kiffin right now for any major coaching staff position, unless it was LOW on the totem pole, and he had time to sit and learn more. You must have smoked something today, Adam. We all bitch about Herm, but at least he has credentials NOW: namely, drafting superbly. Lane Kiffin has the Raiders playing better? Their D dropped from 3rd in the league (and that’s while getting SMOKED, and being on the field ALL game long, while their offense BLEW,) to one of the worst D’s last year. Their O isn’t much better off, even with awesome RB depth, and promising young receivers (Curry, Higgins,) and the addition of Javon Walker. Lane hasn’t improved that team, they had most of the talent already on that team, before he showed up, and added even more since he got there, and he STILL can’t win. If you want to talk about how the Raiders were a few plays from being better this year, think about last year, when our Chiefs were a few plays/drives away from being closer to 10-6 than 4-12. It happens. Kiffin may come into his own as a coach, due to his youth, he’s still pretty inexperienced, but Herm can at least help us draft well, which, for a rebuilding team, is key. I wouldn’t take Kiffin right now for any major coaching staff position, unless it was LOW on the totem pole, and he had time to sit and learn more.

]]> By: Adam Best http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23681 Adam Best Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:13:27 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23681 I'd take every head coach in the NFL except Norv Turner, Romeo Crennel, Marvin Lewis, Rod Marinelli, Jim Hasslet (he's basically the same thing--more "rah-rah" than results), Brad Childress and now Tom Cable over him. He's currently the eighth worst coach in the league, in my opinion. I’d take every head coach in the NFL except Norv Turner, Romeo Crennel, Marvin Lewis, Rod Marinelli, Jim Hasslet (he’s basically the same thing–more “rah-rah” than results), Brad Childress and now Tom Cable over him. He’s currently the eighth worst coach in the league, in my opinion.

]]> By: Double D http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/10/01/aadq-silver-and-bleak/comment-page-1/#comment-23680 Double D Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:00:24 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2416#comment-23680 Kiffin over Edwards? What are you smoking? Kiffin over Edwards? What are you smoking?

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