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		<title>By: xxxlp</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/29/aadq-gonzo-stiffed-by-cherm/#comment-27306</link>
		<dc:creator>xxxlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotcha, I gotcha. I think playing with a basically star-studded O-line (Waters, Weigmann, Shields, Tait) makes people hold a grudge against any of those individuals. Singularly, they weren&#039;t as good as when combined. When Willie retired, we undoubtedly had trouble. When Shields retired, we had even more trouble. And when Tait and Weigmann both left, we struggled (in Weigmann&#039;s case, we struggled early this season,) to have the same offensive production. While one could argue that that&#039;s a testament to each of their individual prowess&#039; I think alot of people take the negative approach and say that they were only good because of everyone around them. You can&#039;t argue with all the Pro Bowls between those 5 guys, seperate, and together, though. At the least, Willie&#039;s going to the Hall.

The two physical attributes that always stood out to me about Willie was his humungous size (Jesus he was huge,) and his tremendously nimble feet. When you saw Willie get going for a down-field block on a Priest Holmes toss, you just knew he was clobbering one, two, and occasionally three blockers in his path. It was truly awe-inspiring. And the one matchup I can remember him just being a straight Hall of Famer in; was the game against the Colts when Dwight Freeney was a BEAST. Freeney had dominated EVERY LT he played against that year, easily. His spins were something that kept OC&#039;s up at night, he couldn&#039;t be blocked. And then he met Willie. I actually think Willie had something to do with Dwight Freeney&#039;s dropoff in production... He&#039;s never been the same player after that. Injuries hurt him, of course, but after being dominated by Willie, he hasn&#039;t been his old self. I think it got to him psychologically, at least a little. You go from being on the top of the world, to looking like a little girl. It was crazy.

To this day I still say I&#039;d take an over-weight/out-of-shape Willie Roaf to play RT (or LT, should he absolutely have to,) over our guys. He was just that good. He definetly has lost a step, or two, or three, since retiring, but I bet he&#039;d still be a Top Ten Tackle in the league, at this moment. That&#039;s just me, and probably a bit of homerism, but God knows I&#039;d love to see it happen if it could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotcha, I gotcha. I think playing with a basically star-studded O-line (Waters, Weigmann, Shields, Tait) makes people hold a grudge against any of those individuals. Singularly, they weren&#8217;t as good as when combined. When Willie retired, we undoubtedly had trouble. When Shields retired, we had even more trouble. And when Tait and Weigmann both left, we struggled (in Weigmann&#8217;s case, we struggled early this season,) to have the same offensive production. While one could argue that that&#8217;s a testament to each of their individual prowess&#8217; I think alot of people take the negative approach and say that they were only good because of everyone around them. You can&#8217;t argue with all the Pro Bowls between those 5 guys, seperate, and together, though. At the least, Willie&#8217;s going to the Hall.</p>
<p>The two physical attributes that always stood out to me about Willie was his humungous size (Jesus he was huge,) and his tremendously nimble feet. When you saw Willie get going for a down-field block on a Priest Holmes toss, you just knew he was clobbering one, two, and occasionally three blockers in his path. It was truly awe-inspiring. And the one matchup I can remember him just being a straight Hall of Famer in; was the game against the Colts when Dwight Freeney was a BEAST. Freeney had dominated EVERY LT he played against that year, easily. His spins were something that kept OC&#8217;s up at night, he couldn&#8217;t be blocked. And then he met Willie. I actually think Willie had something to do with Dwight Freeney&#8217;s dropoff in production&#8230; He&#8217;s never been the same player after that. Injuries hurt him, of course, but after being dominated by Willie, he hasn&#8217;t been his old self. I think it got to him psychologically, at least a little. You go from being on the top of the world, to looking like a little girl. It was crazy.</p>
<p>To this day I still say I&#8217;d take an over-weight/out-of-shape Willie Roaf to play RT (or LT, should he absolutely have to,) over our guys. He was just that good. He definetly has lost a step, or two, or three, since retiring, but I bet he&#8217;d still be a Top Ten Tackle in the league, at this moment. That&#8217;s just me, and probably a bit of homerism, but God knows I&#8217;d love to see it happen if it could.</p>
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		<title>By: pantherhare</title>
		<link>http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/29/aadq-gonzo-stiffed-by-cherm/#comment-27305</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xxxlp, not to belabor what was probably an off the cuff remark, but I don&#039;t think he meant a player that spent his entire career with the Chiefs.  In any case, Will Shields spent his entire career with the Chiefs.  He and Roaf are the only ones who have ever played for the Chiefs (maybe Montana) that can even begin to make a legitimate claim as being the best player of all time at his position.

Also I don&#039;t think Roaf gets enough recognition of how great he really was.  You hear about Odgen and Pace all the time, but Roaf, he was really something special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xxxlp, not to belabor what was probably an off the cuff remark, but I don&#8217;t think he meant a player that spent his entire career with the Chiefs.  In any case, Will Shields spent his entire career with the Chiefs.  He and Roaf are the only ones who have ever played for the Chiefs (maybe Montana) that can even begin to make a legitimate claim as being the best player of all time at his position.</p>
<p>Also I don&#8217;t think Roaf gets enough recognition of how great he really was.  You hear about Odgen and Pace all the time, but Roaf, he was really something special.</p>
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		<title>By: xxxlp</title>
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		<dc:creator>xxxlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panther, I think he means Chiefs who have played their whole careers here. Tony G. has, guys like Willie Roaf, while amazing, and probably Hall of Famers, didn&#039;t.

Jason, that&#039;s why I said if there was ANY chance that it could have been picked, he could have thrown it away. It IS safe, Damon is very capable. And he&#039;s leaps and bounds above Thigpen. He didn&#039;t have flashy stats against Denver, but did you see the completion percentage? Yeah, Thigpen DREAMS about completing 22/28 or whatever it was. It IS a safe play. Maybe not a huge net-yardage gain, but he didn&#039;t need big yardage, just 3. That&#039;s a quick throw, with little risk of a sack, the way our line played, and Tony G. has great hands. But no, we couldn&#039;t give a single DOWN for Tony&#039;s cause? Puhhlease.

I see the argument about winning, but we were in very little danger of losing that game at the end, we could have gotten it done. Having Tony talk about getting traded, and being pissed about everything is just as hurtful to a team as if we DID have a pick for six on that down. Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panther, I think he means Chiefs who have played their whole careers here. Tony G. has, guys like Willie Roaf, while amazing, and probably Hall of Famers, didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Jason, that&#8217;s why I said if there was ANY chance that it could have been picked, he could have thrown it away. It IS safe, Damon is very capable. And he&#8217;s leaps and bounds above Thigpen. He didn&#8217;t have flashy stats against Denver, but did you see the completion percentage? Yeah, Thigpen DREAMS about completing 22/28 or whatever it was. It IS a safe play. Maybe not a huge net-yardage gain, but he didn&#8217;t need big yardage, just 3. That&#8217;s a quick throw, with little risk of a sack, the way our line played, and Tony G. has great hands. But no, we couldn&#8217;t give a single DOWN for Tony&#8217;s cause? Puhhlease.</p>
<p>I see the argument about winning, but we were in very little danger of losing that game at the end, we could have gotten it done. Having Tony talk about getting traded, and being pissed about everything is just as hurtful to a team as if we DID have a pick for six on that down. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: d2gogetit</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no respect for the second greatest chief following ole number 58 . this isnt ny herm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no respect for the second greatest chief following ole number 58 . this isnt ny herm</p>
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