Green And Huard: A Joke Nobody's Laughing At…In Missouri, At Least

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The Rams just had to one up Herm Edwards‘ decision to start Damon Huard for the Chiefs this Sunday, didn’t they?

“The Chiefs are going with Damon Huard. They think they can just ride him to the No. 1 pick? Not so fast, K.C. You want to start that hasbeen clipboard holder? Fine, we’ll one up you. We’ll start the guy you dumped to pave the way for that hasbeen clipboard holder. Take that!” – Scott Linehan…I swear

Trent Green? Really? This isn’t 2003, Al Saunders and Co. As far as we go, I’m actually looking forward to Damon starting. Not for his play, but for the sake of our defense and young players like Dwayne Bowe, guys who need consistency in order to develop. That being said, Damon still is a waste when it comes to the grand scheme of things and preparing for the future. It’s not that I like him for us right now, it’s that anything is better than the alternative.

Speaking of that alternative, why don’t we just cut Tyler Thigpen and give Buffalo a call about J.P. Losman, the non-Chiefs QB who seems to most interest our readers?

The Bills know he’s going to bounce after the season, so we could get him at a bargain basement price (say a fifth-round pick). Besides, Brodie Croyle is going to miss at least another two games and will almost certainly miss half of the final 10 games as well. Why not give Losman his tryout this year? If we like him, we can ink him long term. If we kind of like him, we can keep him around and burn a first- or second-rounder on a quarterback or sign Michael Vick (more on that to come). If we don’t like him, we let him walk and we’re only out a fifth-rounder and pocket change. Losman has requested a trade and is simply playing out his contract, so now is the time to pounce. If we wait, he could easily end up elsewhere. Or, and this is even worse, we could sign him to a big deal and he could flop. It isn’t like that hasn’t happened to the Chiefs before.

Why should we trade for Losman? First off, the kid’s got swagger. I like that in a quarterback. Second, he’s smart. J.P. was a Political Science major at Tulane and has shown the ability to pick up an offense. Third, he really only had parts of his first two years with the Bills to prove anything, and the only real weapon he had was the inconsistent Lee Evans. His line during that time looked about like ours does now. Fourth, he seems to be more durable than Croyle even though they are roughly the same size (he’s a little heavier). Fifth, he has a good arm and can make all the pro throws. Sixth, he’s only 27 and his stock is lower than it should be for a talented former first-rounder. And, finally, I liked what I saw from him the last time the Chiefs played the Bills.

I say pull the trigger, Carl Peterson.

Bringing in only Ingle Martin (and Katt Williams to run the option) after Brodie went down and now going back to Damon just doesn’t make sense to me. The only thing it says to me is that the Chiefs are cheap and that Herm is desperately trying to eek out a few wins and save his job. It looks like the same thing is happening in St. Louis, so I’ll put them in the same cynical camp that I’m placing the Chiefs’ brass in. We were willing to be patient, but that was only if you proved to us that you were trying to make this rebuilding process go as quickly as possible. Unlike a Presidential campaign, you cannot suspend a rebuild. Get with it, folks.

How does starting Damon Huard instead of looking at someone like Losman help us reach our ultimate goal? It doesn’t. What, do you think you’ll keep games closer and everything will be hunky-dory in the Sea of Red? For the life of me I cannot understand why the two worst teams in the NFL are starting Damon Huard and Trent Green in the midst of their rebuilding projects. That. Makes. No. Effing. Sense.

Sorry, Damon, but I honestly hope you get knocked out of Sunday’s game and the foreseeable future. Maybe an injury which limits you more than it actually hurts. That will leave the Chiefs in a Catch-22 with only Marques Hagans and Thigpen available for the trip to Carolina. They would have to do something, right? Right? Probably not.

That’s what happens when you have a coach and GM who both get too comfy because they have more job security than they should. Who knows, maybe another severe Arrowhead beating at the hands of the hated Broncos will change all of that. I’m sure Clark Hunt sees his crowds shrinking before his eyes. Maybe that will finally provoke him to find “some kind of way out of here” for both the Preacher Joker (Hagans is not Ronnie Brown, man) and the King Thief (20 years of packed seats, no Super Bowl. Stranger things have happened, for instance Matt Millen getting fired.

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I like Losman as well. Why not release someone and bring in Chris Sims? Or call Miami about John Beck? I do not have anything against Vick (not a dog lover) but he can't hit the side of a barn. He is better than what we have...

I have been reading where some people would like to see Vick or even Freeman as our next QB. I think you all are crazy. Lets start picking up some people that can win big games. I also think it is time for us to pick up a coach that is a proven winner. Why did we ever go after Herm is what I would like to know. Did he ever do anything special with the Jets? Not unless I missed something. I do like the idea of going after Cowler. I do agree with us getting younger but you do need some proven veterans and getting rid of them all don't make any sense to me. Having Huard as our only QB that has any experience doesn't make since either. You need a starting veteran to show the new guys the ropes some. I think that Herm went to young way to quick and now our season will show that.

You know something deep inside me says that the Chiefs have some great seasons coming up in the next five years, IF we can get a franchise qb. Is that stat that no drafted qb has ever won a game for the chiefs true?

The power of Christ compels you!... to stfu. Uninformed? Ha, some of us do more research, on any given day, about any given player/team/coaches/staff in the NFL (or college, for that matter) than you did all through highschool, bub. So while I'd agree that most of us (barring the Bests) don't have insider information, we're still kept in the loop by common sense, intelligence, and good ol' fashioned 'look it up' technology. Yup; seems this darnfangled interweb-a-thingymajig can do more things than just look up sites for asian girls with big.. *whistles innocently*..

Angry Jesus, you're perfect and it took you this long to figure out that this is a blog? Wow, the Big Man's been slipping on the home schooling, huh? And we care about the Chiefs winning more than the Chiefs' brass does. I know that much. You're entitled to your opinion, though, Holy One. Flame on with your righteous self!

AJ, stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel.

When digging around for reputable, informative, Chiefs-news sites, I came across this one.

Now I know it's NOTHING more than a blog. That's it. A blog at best.

And the disappointing thing is that the articles are just some guy's thoughts. The "research" isn't very good, and you have no insider information.

That's cool, however. I support this type of medium, to an extent. The problem is that this site gets enough traffic that these destructive thoughts are actually being listened to!

I do notice that you care more about your recognition than the success of the Chiefs, and that's disappointing given the banner under which this site operates.

Flame on.

Could be worse I suppose. Like a degree in Journalism or something along those lines. :)

C'mon, Double D. Plenty of athletes get degrees in stuff like Golf Course Management. A Poly Sci degree illustrates that he has at least half a brain in that head of his. Had to comment on that...

First of all, getting a degree in Political Science qualifies someone as smart? In what universe?

Secondly, is there any reason whatsoever to believe that Losman has the slightest interest in playing for the Chiefs? You claim he's smart? Well, how smart would he be to come play for a team that gave up 55 sacks last year, and this season stands at 9 sacks after only 3 games. If I were him, I would be inclined to consider a job with Chiefs more as a recipe for my ending my NFL career than an opportunity for jump-starting it.

As far as Michael Vick goes, it's a huge assumption to think he could muster a comeback. He would also likely be booed at every away game and probably home games too. And if that were not enough, I for one do particularly relish the thought of being mugged by a bunch of loony PETA types every time I make my way to the stadium gate nor would I want fake animal blood splattered all over my car.

Bringing in Michael Vick would be lunacy on multiple levels.

Blackouts are going to be a non-issue. Who wants to watch this team? Blackouts will be doing us a favor. Its just going to be a symptom of the Chiefs being very sick.

QB Options:

1. Wait until 2009 for Vick - by far the best player available and also will attract so much attention to the Chiefs which can't hurt.

2. Brian Brohm - Former top rated prospect who's a #3 right now.

3. Alex Smith - Give him another chance

I dont want Losman. I live in New York and have to watch Bills games and this guy is terrible.

I also think we should trade for Losman. He was starting to look like a decent NFL quarteback when he got hurt, and he has not really got another chance. He fits our system well. He is mobile, and if he has one strength it is the ability to throw the long ball and stretch the feild. That would help out our running game.

I have a slightly differert take. How about waiting until the bye to trade for him. Brodie should be healthy and should be able to last a couple of games until Losman learns the offense. Then instead of cutting Thigpen we trade Huard in the Losman deal, or possibly deal him to the Pats (he played in that system and could help stabilize thibngs for them if cassell struggles or gets injured). We could probably get similar compensation from the Pats for Huard as Losman would cost.

PS. Congrats Adam on the foxsports article. The article was funny and well done.

"It's going to take as long as it takes"

The bottom line is that we have 6 positions to fix with the draft before we return to playoff contention.

Now, if we are lucky, we will get 3 solid starters out of next years draft.

Lets put up my most current, semi-ralistic, scinereo.

1st Ray Maligula (phenom talent)
2nd Alex Mack (phenom talent)
3rd Brian Brohm (still 50/50 roll on franchise QB)

now that leaves Right Guard, Right Tackle, Outside Linebacker. So we will still have a solid hole on the right side.

The point im trying to make with this is that we are still rebuilding. We probably wont even be totally fixed next year. What we have to do is proceede cautiously with intent and not make any rash decisions.

If we do get a QB, we need to either burn a 1st alone or Burn a 3rd in 09 and 10. 1st and 2nd picks are too precious. The have the potential of fixing an entire position. Look at Dorsey, Albert, and Flowers. The 3rd, while good, is always a gamble. So the bottom line is...

Concentrate on the forest, not the trees.

Adam,

Every time you utter Michael Vick's name on this blog, you lose credibility as any kind of Chiefs analyst. We don't need another Jabba.

Also, I would like to take the liberty of writing this:

As the Quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs Trent Green saw us through some great times and is a loved and respected member of our collective family. Our thoughts and prayers are with him as he attempts to survive behind the Offensive Line of the St. Louis Rams.

I like the idea of Losman. I think he would be a decent fit. I mean, it is not like we are even in need of someone amazing by any means, all we need is someone who can manage the game and not make any mistakes (Chad Pennington would have been nice, eh)

Michael Vick will not work out...You dream Adam...I am not saying it wouldn't be a decent idea if he has been keeping himself in shape...But I am not sure anyone will be willing to take him back in the NFL...UFL anyone?

I certainly don't think anyone will be fired mid-season here...But, the Millen thing got me thinking about it. At first I thought it was strange of them to cut him right now, seemed like bad timing. But after thinking about it, this is probably the best time imaginable to do such a thing. The typical procedure of firing and rehiring in January now seems to put a handicap on that GM because they haven't been evaluating their talent all fall. I dunno maybe after the Week 6 trade deadline would be the best really.

After attending the last game at Arrowhead I am very confident that there will be blackouts this season and it will be interesting to see how Clark handles it.