A.A.D.Q.: Who Be Your QB?

My first concern would be with how he handles pressure and getting knocked down a few times. He frankly hasn’t had to worry about either at Mizzou. His height is the other concern. Of course things can change a lot between now and April but as of now I’d be very surprised if Daniel ended up being picked before the 4th round. That said, if Mizzou can somehow win a national title this year, I’m sure a lot of pro teams will take a harder look at him.

This is why i said to bring in a vet and let him learn..you can say the same about most QB's..great ones will adapt, and i feel he has potential to adapt -good decision making skills and he can run a bit and throw on the run

Im really just tired of things not working out- take a chance..Daniel is as good as any Qb in the draft if not better...can we really get any worse?

DD you really think he wont make it?

Epic, I think Daniel is great and all for where he is and what he's asked to do but what leads you to believe that he has what to takes to make the adjustment from running a spread offense to running a pro offense?

There is a reason why these other QB's are not starting anymore..

Chase Daniel is my pick..fire Herm, drop Thiggy/Martin..bring in a seasoned vet to teach Chase (and Croyle) some things and get this thing rolling-hes got skill, seems intelligent and is eager to get better

Why does everyone want Vick? We already have people that can run the ball.We need an NFL qb, thats one of the main reasons that people don't believe Tebow will make it in the pros, and he is a much better quarterback than Vick. I also wouldnt want to trade a draft pick for someone like Losman. You said his td to int. ratio was 36/34, well thats funny Brodies is 6/8. Doesnt seem like we are getting much better.

What about trading a late round draft pick for Losman this year, cutting Thigpen, and ride out the year. Then next year draft the USC mlb, REY REY, with our first pick and grab Painter out of Purdue with our second round pick. BTW, Why did we pick up a QB from the VIKINGS, THE VIKINGS and try to make him our starter.

I'm sure even if both Boldin and Housh hit the open market, we wouldn't pick them up, we're trying to set a record for most cap room.

Good point on Boldin, xxxlp, I've had my sights on him too. Except there's one proble: If Herm is still here next season, why would we invest so much in a receiver when Herm doesn't believe the forward pass has any place in the NFL, thats Arena League shit.

Cballer, I doubt we get Oher that early in the draft. For one, he would NOT replace Albert as LT on our line. Albert has looked solid, and it's his rookie year, he's going to be just fine. We're not gonna grab Oher with a top 5 pick, pay him all that money that LT's make (you know he's going to demand it) and then stick him at RT. It just ain't gonna happen, jack. I like Oher, much more so than Boone, but we just aren't going to get him (imo) because things won't work out like we'd want.

aCal, I thought Crabtree was a sophomore? Maybe he won't try for the draft this year. Although he should, because his rookie year alone was phenommmmmmenal. I would definetly like him on our team, but faced with Crabtree versus Maualuga... I'd take the MLB. Our D is only a few pieces away from being top 10 year in and year out. Our O needs work all over the place, and we've survived for YEARS without a top-of-the-line WR. I think we can do it one more year. Best case scenario, we get Maualuga this year, Crabtree declares next year, and we get him as well ^.^

And remember guys, 85% of the guys who will be free-agents next year, will get resigned at some point during this season, or definetly in the off-season, just as we get excited we might be able to pick them up. TJ is a good example. They definetly aren't letting him go, he'll get resigned, one way or another. One guy we should just throw buckets and buckets of cash at, is Anquan Boldin.. The man wants PAID, son! And guess what, Addicts... We have the money. He's been on some pretty bad Cardinal teams, thus far in his career, I don't think he'd mind coming to KC as much as people would think, especially if we throw him 10-11m a year, for a 4 year contract or so. Pricey.. but worth it. We'd instantly get twice as much production out of the QB's. Assuming he can hit him with the ball. That'd also free up the running game like a mofo. Ahhh, the possibilities.

Loads of cap room + unrestricted free agent TJ Housh + at least average QB + line upgrades = a greatly improved offense. Which with terrible management, would not happen

kpi03 - so Aaron Rogers, Tony Romo, and Tom Brady are trash just because they sat on the bench. Drew Brees is trash because it didn't work out in San Diego - heck...you probably thought D. Anderson from the Brownies was trash - but then changed your mind that he was good...but now he is trash again because Quinn is better...no wait...he was on the bench so they both suck.

You either have it or you don't - then you have to factor in whether or not you fit into the teams "style" or playbook - and then lasty you factor in how good the team is that you are on.

There has been and still are moves we can make to "improve our Quarterback situation" Just pick one and go with it!

Next - some of these Quarterbacks we are naming "are" better than Brodie Croyle - Brodie can't even stay on the field let alone win a single game. Plus we are not burrying him, just trying to have competition. What blows my mind is how we have have had numerous opportunities to get other QB's in here for competition and we have passed them all up. And it's not just this last year - this has been a Chiefs problem since way before Herm got here....WE HAVE NEVER GONE OUT AND GOTTEN A TRUE QB!

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EVER!

I think D Bowe is a number 1 receiver. I think we need another protector - Michael Oher. I honestly believe the Chiefs will be no better than 2-14 and get the number one pick. What we then need is Cowher, Vick, Oher and a DE or MLB as the first pick of the second round. If that happens I would not count us out of the Super Bowl in the 2009 season. Honestly.

As much as I love Laurinaitis (Not quite as high on Mualaga but I havent seen him play as much), am I the only one who thinks that we need a legit #1 WR? When was the last time we had a guy who could really scare opposing DB's? Kennison? Derrick Alexander? Andre Rison? I think Bowe might get there at some point but I'm not convinced after all those drops in the Pats game... i think he's more suited to be a good #2.

I think we need to draft Crabtree out of T Tech, trade back into Round one to get a Duke Robinson or Alex Boone and then take Chase Daniel in round 3.

Guys we could have Peyton Manning back there and he'd still look awful behind our O line and with our WR's.

The thing is none of those quarterbacks gives us anything better than brodie croyle. The only chances we have of getting something better and improving at the position is either Mike Vick or Tim Tebow... or another rookie we have the chance to develope. Not someone elses trash.

There are a lot of great ideas. Not sure Losman would want to play for us, but not a bad stop gap for now. As for next year, get Mualaga (however that is spelled) with the first pick and move back into round one for tebow or another high ranked QB. I think we need this fixed THIS YEAR! Get Shaun Hill, JP Losman, Brian Brohm or hell even try for John Beck. Beck is an odd man out since he is not a Parcells guy. We need SOMEBODY!!!

I think the point here is we need the Chiefs to do something....anything....I don't like Losman, but I would take him anyday of the week at this point!

The only thing I would not do at this point is give up our 1st pick - there are no clear QB's yet.

we need to find someone to help the team this year - and then maybe draft someone aswell in round 2

Niswanger has got to go too...btw.

Also, my master plan is this:

We aren't going to win more than 2-3 games with Herm at the healm so I say we either fire him or keep him to guarentee the #1 pick.

Meanwhile, we talk to Cowher and see what he wants, if hes open to Vick - we speak to Vick's agent. We then fire Herm and Carl WHEN COWHER WANTS IT DONE and allow Cowher to make his picks for GM, OC and DC. This means that next season this could potentially be our Offense:

QB - Vick
RB - LJ
TE - Gonzalez
TE2 - Chattam
WR - Bowe
WR2 - Franklin
LT - Oher
LG - Waters
C - Niswanger
RG - Richardson
RT - Albert

If we get Cowher and Vick and spend a little money on D, we could be a playoff team next year WITH young players.

Ok, and if Cowher doesnt work out, which is most likely, I want someone like Pete Carroll or Urban Meyer who in my mind could turn out to be good NFL coaches. Herm has proven to me that I can't live with a coach who looks so dumb with their decisions and actions.

I wish we could hear more about what Martin's role is expected to be.

I believe we would have taken Ryan if he had been available.

I like the SEC. I have been and remain a Brodie Croyle fan but I see the real need to bring some continuity and savvy to the QB job. I do think we need to get a qb right away who will not turn the ball over. I think it would be good if we could pick up Losman, Fitzpatrick, Frye or Hill. The only player I think we should consider trading is LJ. I like him but he could offer another team run game improvement that no other player on our squad can. I do not understand why Cleveland did not jump at the chance to pick him up - if he was part of the trade discussion. With a little time to get their system down he has the ability to make them division contenders this year.

Regarding Tebow or Stafford, I don't think we can count on Tebow coming out and I have seen Stafford get rattled. Stafford has benefited from having a great rb (Moreno). The GA / Alabama game this weekend should be fun to watch. Tebow is an awesome athlete. He has not had the same run support as Stafford. I am just not sure either of them are the right fit.

Shuler's problem was that he came out too early and was immediately put into the grinder.

This is what I want in terms of QB:

1. Vick next year
2. Brohm but not for a number 1 pick - we need to use our number 1 pick on OL again.
3. Croyle as long as we get more line help.

The main problem I have with Croyle is he isnt a winner. He can sling the ball around but he doesnt win games. I have a huge problem with that.

Rihavens, I'm feeling you bro.

I’ll modify my last comment by saying the 1st and 2nd round picks need to go the best available OL and ILB. I don’t care which (OL or ILB) gets picked first, both need to happen on day one.

Trade Kolby Smith for Dennis Dixon now. In the first round, draft the best available OL. In the 3rd round, draft the best available of either Hunter Cantwell, Sam Bradford, or Josh Freeman. Problem solved.

why not try to sign culpepper for one or two seasons then look for a free agent our 3 qb's now aint worth puttin on the feild thigpen looked like a bad high school player croyle cant stay healthy and even if he did he cant do anything

should have signed chris simms

I think we should let our new GM and Coach pick their new QB.

Shaun Hill - Crane stole my sleeper LOL. Hill's the only QB who will be available for sure that I like. He played well in 2007, but didn't fit Martz's scheme as well as JT O'Sullivan. He's certainly not a long term solution, but he's a younger Huard.

Losman at a reasonable price I would like. He's a decent QB I think.

Howlin Wolf, Fitzpatrick was Bulgers backup in St.Louis a few years back and came in and played in the Martz offense when it was good. His first game was awesome and he looked like a pro bowler. His next 3 games he looked like a cheerleader. Just awful. His arm isn't that strong either. But he'd be worth a look.

There are a number of other QBs who may be available depending on how the year goes. Bulger, Pennington, Leinart, and Schaub are just some of the names who may be available. Someone like that is the most likely choice for us.

I recall during the preseason I was watching a Bengals game, and there was a guy named Ryan Fitzpatrick. He looked good in the two or so quarters I watched. I wonder if any of you guys know much about him? The Bengals also had Palmer's younger brother as #3 QB. Both seem worth a look.

His stats aren't bad stjoemo. He was hurt some, and Trent Edwards came in, played well, and basically has kept the position since. If you'd look at his numbers, especially the two years he started all 16 games for Buffalo, you'd see he's not that bad. He's got about a 60% completion percentage, which is ideal, hell... at this point, I'd settle for 50%, rather than have Thigpen handle the pigskin. In that two year span where he started both years, he also has a positive (36/34 TD/INT) ratio. Considering that Evans missed some time, and that was basically his only solid receiving target, and he had a perrenially hurt RB in Willis McGahee... I'd say that's pretty damn good. He also never had the honor of playing with an ABOVE AVERAGE TE. We happen to have THE best TE in history, albeit one who's past the zenith of his career.

Give Losman DBowe/TG/LJ, with the added benefits of quick backs like JamChar, a better defense, theoretically, and a better O-line than Buffalo had a few years ago, and you've got yourself someone who can competently run our offense. Sure, he's not Peyton Manning, but we don't want him to be Peyton. We want him to be the Trent Dilfer/Kyle Orton "game manager" of our team. The guy who defenses HAVE to respect enough so that our running game can work, and our D can stay off the field because of his sustained drives. We don't need, or even want, (thanks Herm) the flashy numbers like Trent Green was putting up back in the day.

Maybe try some research before you bash on a guy just because of his name. And by the way, college achievements have next to nothing to do with how well they play at this level, or how long it takes them to master an offensive scheme. Case and point: TYLER THIGPEN was good in college. Well, good is a relative term.

Can I ask why anyone would even consider Losman? He couldnt start over a guy who couldnt even make it to a bowl game. If you cant start in Buffalo why would we even consider him. Brohm did nothing but good things in college and he did it without much talent around him. Tebow is a beast, but he runs a spread offense and what do you think an NFL linebacker would do to him when he decides to run the ball like he did in college?

Trade LJ for a first round pick. Get tebow and an awesome MLB in the first. Tebow will be Godly in madden 10.

I used to have a semi for Brohm, but now I don't. He couldn't even get up to the 2nd string on Green Bay, why would we want that? He's a bigger version of Brodie but with less arm.

Dave you are my new hero

And here I thought I was the soul supporter of Brohm.

Ok...baring a Quinn trade for a first rounder im thinking something like this.

1st Melegula/Laurinitus
2nd Alex Mack
3rd Brian Brohm
(I would also throw in a few other late rounders or even a 3rd in 2010 to snatch Brohm from GB)

I wonder if we could trade for Brohm, right now, with similar trade incentives...we wouldnt have to wait till next year to test him out. I have a feeling that dude can take a beating. And man...do we have a grinder haha.

You guys know who I like? Shaun Hill at San Fransisco, he's odd man out with JT O'Sullivan coming on strong and he played well last season. He's a guy with a chip on his shoulder and actually played juco ball in Kansas I believe.

that is the same thing i suggested u see this guy knows wat hes talkin about maugalana and laurintas are rare talents...

The correct pick is whichever MLB they prefer, most likely Rey Maualuga, and wait until the second for a QB, since none are big time prospects this year, and MLB is a pretty weak spot as well. I'm sure one of those guys will be there.

wat does tebow have that chase daniels or matt stafford dont have..tell me wat makes tebow different..hes from the spread offense as is daniels too the spread is a college offense not a nfl offense!!! mark my words tebow will be a bust!

Brian Brohm????? NO. Tim Tebow or Josh Freeman are the only answers to this solution. You are comparing tebow to heath schuler... REALLY? Not a chance. Tebow is a sure fire hall of famer for the kansas city chiefs. Beleive it. We will go 0-16 and draft Tebow and proceed to make the playoffs, the end.

At this point Brohm, Beck, and even Woodson make sense. If playing a WR at the QB spot doesn't advertise how bad it has become then nothing will!

Never in my life have I seen a team ignore the importance of the QB position like our Chiefs have.

Losman makes some sense but I personally don't like him.

I said it before the draft and I will say it again...Brohm has leadership, poise, touch, and accuracy. The Packers had a hidden gem before with Rogers on the bench and the same goes with Brohm now - I would never pay a high price, but if he can be had for a fair price then even you should be ok with giving him a shot Adam.

I stand with Brohm!

We can't go another draft without drafting a qb in the first, possibly 2nd round. Tebow(who I'm not that high on, reminds me of heath shuler years ago) or Stafford from Georgia is who I see as the two top qb's so far. We can not let him start year one. Bring in JP Losman or another somewhat young vet who can take the snaps for a year and mentor the young guy.

Only problem I can see is that Peterson and Clark Hunt are cheap. We will have another top 5 pick, I see them trading out of it to save money.

my..idea of fixing this mess...it involves stickin it out the rest of the year..i know..but we can make it hell this team aint been competitive since 2006 just 12 more weeks guys... in the offseason we sign one or two good offensive lineman.. in the draft we use our high draft pick on maugalana or laurinitas..then it gets interestin either wait til our early second round pick and draft..stafford,daniels,or whoever if we think there not gonna be there trade our 2nd and our 3rd and trade back into the mid first round..whew!! wat do yall think about this idea??

GO CHIEFS!!