Comments on: This Old Chief: Ditch The China Doll, Draft A Real QB http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/08/this-old-chief-ditch-the-china-doll-draft-a-real-qb/ A Kansas City Chiefs Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:42:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: writer http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/08/this-old-chief-ditch-the-china-doll-draft-a-real-qb/#comment-19447 writer Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:51:32 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2295#comment-19447 Well the good news is that our current owner recently said in an interview that he wanted to draft a quarterback and develop them. He made the statement that it was the only way we can expect to go to the superbowl....As a matter of fact our owner said that he would like to have drafted another quarterback in the past draft...Personally I think that is one reason why they have such a high amount of money in the salary cap. So good things are coming..... Well the good news is that our current owner recently said in an interview that he wanted to draft a quarterback and develop them. He made the statement that it was the only way we can expect to go to the superbowl….As a matter of fact our owner said that he would like to have drafted another quarterback in the past draft…Personally I think that is one reason why they have such a high amount of money in the salary cap. So good things are coming…..

]]> By: Sudden http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/08/this-old-chief-ditch-the-china-doll-draft-a-real-qb/#comment-19446 Sudden Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:41:30 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2295#comment-19446 Doc, it's easy to say to we should take a QB in the first round, but I think in any given draft you have to pick the best player available in the first. If Croyle can't get healthy, stay healthy, and develop over the course of the season at this point, I'm all for drafting a QB. But the QB position is such a hard one to scout and we can probably get decent competition in a second or third round, or possibly even later. In light of Jay Cutler's performance, its easy to say we drafted the wrong QB from Croyle's class. But what about Vince Young or Matt Leinart? Two early first round busts at the QB position so far. At least if a third rounded busts, the contract won't kill you. Doc, it’s easy to say to we should take a QB in the first round, but I think in any given draft you have to pick the best player available in the first. If Croyle can’t get healthy, stay healthy, and develop over the course of the season at this point, I’m all for drafting a QB. But the QB position is such a hard one to scout and we can probably get decent competition in a second or third round, or possibly even later. In light of Jay Cutler’s performance, its easy to say we drafted the wrong QB from Croyle’s class. But what about Vince Young or Matt Leinart? Two early first round busts at the QB position so far. At least if a third rounded busts, the contract won’t kill you.

]]> By: Double D http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/08/this-old-chief-ditch-the-china-doll-draft-a-real-qb/#comment-19445 Double D Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:36:24 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2295#comment-19445 Great to have you aboard Doc. Like me, you're probably one of the few around here who can remember a time when the only BBQ one would smell at a Chiefs game was that which wafted up the hill from Arthur Bryants. In an age of video games and instant gratification, I appreciate the opportunity to read the perspective of someone that possesses a little longer, more patient view. That said, my initial response to your complaint is coulda, woulda, shoulda. We didn't and so we have to play the hand we have. The wild card in that hand is Brodie Croyle. It's impossible to assess assess him after only 6 starts with no running game, no playcalling, no audibles, and no mobility all behind what surely ranks high among the worst offensive lines in all of NFL history. I'm sure a lot of people will be quick to point out that he's actually seen 7 unsuccessful starts. Those however are the same people who said the Chiefs had zero chance of beating the Patriots but nevertheless insist on using this latest loss as yet more fuel for their ongoing effigy of Croyle. I say you can't have it both ways. You and others claim Croyle is made of glass. I say susceptability to injury is a poor criteria for determining whether you have a star QB. Don't believe me? Consider Dawson, Namath, and Roethlisberger just to name three. A much better criteria for the issue of durability is how quickly can the guy return to the field and whether that last injury in any way impaired his physical effectiveness or mental toughness. Croyle has past that test many times with flying colors - he's a tough, fearless kid and that's something you want in your QB. Huard, on the other hand, has come away from his most recent injuries in a little more gun shy. Just because guys like Manning and Favre have escaped the injury bug doesn't mean that's the norm much less what should be expected for every quarterback. QB injuries are and will continue to be a big part of the game. Last year 64 different QBs started in the NFL. Most of those substitutions were not the result of a predecessor's poor play. Great QBs get hurt. It happens, it's part of the game. Just because a guy has worse luck with injuries than his piers is a pretty weak criteria for determining whether or not he can take you to promised land. Bottom line, NFL football is a brutal environment where guys get injured through no fault or flaw of their own - all the time. However, history shows that short-duration injuries are indeed manageable in the course of a long season and are not necessarily a total impediment to QB and/or team success. It's only week one guys. Like it or not, when Croyle is once again healthy, he will be our starting QB this season. I say let's all hope he proves himself worthy of retaining that job not just this year but for many years to come. Great to have you aboard Doc. Like me, you’re probably one of the few around here who can remember a time when the only BBQ one would smell at a Chiefs game was that which wafted up the hill from Arthur Bryants. In an age of video games and instant gratification, I appreciate the opportunity to read the perspective of someone that possesses a little longer, more patient view.

That said, my initial response to your complaint is coulda, woulda, shoulda. We didn’t and so we have to play the hand we have. The wild card in that hand is Brodie Croyle.

It’s impossible to assess assess him after only 6 starts with no running game, no playcalling, no audibles, and no mobility all behind what surely ranks high among the worst offensive lines in all of NFL history. I’m sure a lot of people will be quick to point out that he’s actually seen 7 unsuccessful starts. Those however are the same people who said the Chiefs had zero chance of beating the Patriots but nevertheless insist on using this latest loss as yet more fuel for their ongoing effigy of Croyle. I say you can’t have it both ways.

You and others claim Croyle is made of glass. I say susceptability to injury is a poor criteria for determining whether you have a star QB. Don’t believe me? Consider Dawson, Namath, and Roethlisberger just to name three.

A much better criteria for the issue of durability is how quickly can the guy return to the field and whether that last injury in any way impaired his physical effectiveness or mental toughness. Croyle has past that test many times with flying colors – he’s a tough, fearless kid and that’s something you want in your QB. Huard, on the other hand, has come away from his most recent injuries in a little more gun shy.

Just because guys like Manning and Favre have escaped the injury bug doesn’t mean that’s the norm much less what should be expected for every quarterback. QB injuries are and will continue to be a big part of the game. Last year 64 different QBs started in the NFL. Most of those substitutions were not the result of a predecessor’s poor play.

Great QBs get hurt. It happens, it’s part of the game. Just because a guy has worse luck with injuries than his piers is a pretty weak criteria for determining whether or not he can take you to promised land. Bottom line, NFL football is a brutal environment where guys get injured through no fault or flaw of their own – all the time. However, history shows that short-duration injuries are indeed manageable in the course of a long season and are not necessarily a total impediment to QB and/or team success.

It’s only week one guys. Like it or not, when Croyle is once again healthy, he will be our starting QB this season. I say let’s all hope he proves himself worthy of retaining that job not just this year but for many years to come.

]]> By: Jeremy_Riverside_CA http://arrowheadaddict.com/2008/09/08/this-old-chief-ditch-the-china-doll-draft-a-real-qb/#comment-19444 Jeremy_Riverside_CA Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:11:19 +0000 http://arrowheadaddict.com/?p=2295#comment-19444 All I know is that this china doll's unavailability is certainly hurting our rebuilding process. However, it is early in the season, and Damon has been a winner for us before. Let's hope and pray. All I know is that this china doll’s unavailability is certainly hurting our rebuilding process.

However, it is early in the season, and Damon has been a winner for us before. Let’s hope and pray.

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