Chiefs @ Pats Post-Game Ramblings: The Persecution Of D-Bowe

by Chiefs

Son, I think you have Type 1 osteogenesis imperfecta.

It’s Monday; I’ve got a case of the Mondays, you’ve got a case of the Mondays–no need to walk on eggshells here. My thoughts after digesting the loss and watching the tape…

First off, Bernard Pollard‘s hit on Tom Brady wasn’t dirty. It wasn’t late at all, and Sammy Morris was trying to reenact The Deliverance on in. You call that blocking? I call that “the Gimp” scene from Pulp Fiction. Pollard was just fighting through Morris to get to the passer. If anything was dirty, it was the block–not the hit. The league has already issued a statement claiming Pollard’s hit was not dirty. End of discussion.

Joe Flacco is 1-0 as a starter, and made several big plays. Matt Ryan is 1-0 as a starter, and his early big play opened the floodgates for the running game. Brodie Croyle is 0-7 as a starter, and has gotten injured in three of those games. Don’t tell me that the Falcons or Ravens are any better than the Chiefs either. Drafting a quarterback doesn’t have to be a decade project. Look at Ben Roethlisberger.

Lots of people are defending Brodie, but I just don’t get it. Even if you actually do think he has what it takes, do you seriously think he can stay on the field? He hasn’t done so in high school, college or the pros, so why should he start now? Are the big defensive uglies going to start getting smaller and softer? No. Nobody is doubting his toughness, so calm down. What everyone has to doubt at this point is his durability. Joe Posnanski hit the nail on the head when he discussed the durability it takes to be great. Bravo, Joe, coming from a guy who usually thinks you should stick to covering the diamond.

As far as how Brokie played before getting hurt, he was OK. He got into a good rhythm with Tony Gonzalez, but Tony G has made a lot of average QBs look good during his career. He didn’t show a ton of touch or accuracy, and I think he needs to take a little off his fastball at times. He damn near decapitated Jamaal Charles on one screen pass attempt, and he overthrew Dwayne Bowe on a pass The Show Boycotters are calling a drop. He had three surefire drops, but that one was squarely on Brodie. Yao Ming would have had trouble pulling that one down, especially with how much velocity there was on it. He also damn near threw a pick forcing a fade route to D-Bowe in tight double coverage.

I watched the tape, and, folks, Brodie Croyle was just not that special. I didn’t see anything that made me think he was our future franchise QB.

What drives me nuts, is how adamantly fans are defending Brokie, when they are absolutely throwing guys like D-Bowe, Devard Darling, Larry Johnson and Pat Thomas under the bus. I’m sorry, but D-Bowe and L.J. have earned the respect of Chiefs fans, while Brodie Croyle has not. “Earn Your Arrowhead.” Devard Darling made a huge play in his first real game as well. After watching the tape, the defenders did have somewhat of an angle on him. Sorry, Whitlock. He also slowed down, but I think he was just trying to maneuver himself into the endzone. He’s not slow. By all accounts, he’s our fastest receiver. But throw him under the bus, too, and keep defending Brodie like he’s the second coming.

As for Dwayne Bowe, he had three drops. That overhead missle that nearly detached his fingertips in double coverage was not on him. Did he have three other bad drops? One was really low, but yes. Two were inexcusable. He was Dr. Awful and Mr. Awesome yesterday, but cut the guy some slack. I bet if he picked up hunting and a Southern drawl more people would. I guarantee that The Show will be back next week. Yes, even against one of the league’s top secondaries. By the way, D-Bowe had a better game than Braylon Edwards, Chad Ocho Cinco, Marques Colston and Torry Holt–easily. I think everyone is being too hard on him.

I also think way too many people are on Jabba the Whitlock‘s jock after crucifying me last week for agreeing with him. Why not just hang D-Bowe from the Arrowhead rafters? Geez.

L.J. is fine. Don’t give me that Jamaal Charles is better bullshit. It’s a lot easier to make something happen on third and long than on obvious running downs. Chan Gailey made it a lot easier on Charles than he did L.J. Nonetheless, Charles is a baller with tremendous speed. Charles also missed the block that got Croyle hurt, though. If that was L.J., fans would be calling for his head.

The line looked pretty good. Yes, even Adrian Jones and Damion McIntosh looked decent on the tape. They were much better in pass protection than run blocking. Why? I suspect it was because of Chan’s predicatable playcalling, mostly. Branden Albert and Rudy Niswanger really played well.

Jeff Webb is a hustler and good blocker, but we really missed Will Franklin and possibly even Maurice Price.

Brad Cottam blocked poorly and did absolutely nothing in the passing game.

Our safeties are now better than our linebackers at tackling, and are the strong point of the defense. Jarrad Page and Pollard both looked awesome. They were rangy, tenacious and fundamentally sound. Page and Pollard–get used to hearing it.

Derrick Johnson, you gotta make that tackle on Sammy Morris.

Turk McBride, one of the A.A. guys, was a monster yesterday. He, Glenn Dorsey and Tamba Hali made me feel real good about our future defensive line. Dorsey might have caused a safety (where’s the challenge?), Tamba was all over the place, and Turk destroyed Nick Kaczur on a bull rush and lit up Brady. I saw No. 90 make an unbelievable inside move and had a Neil Smith flashback.

Mike Solari bodysnatched Chan Gailey. Shhh…it’s still just a rumor right now.

I see why the Chiefs kept Pat Surtain over Ty Law. He might be slow, but he’s tough and saavy, plus a good tackler. He’s also not nearly as slow as Law either.

Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers played well. Gotta love the Brandons.

Watching Damon Huard play quarterback is similar to a root canal, but at least with a root canal you get the good drugs. I was reminded why I once wrote about Huard, “more tucks than a drag queen convention.” Grow a set and hang in the pocket. I want a QB like Jake Delhomme. A tough-as-nails competitor who is fearless.

I’ll give Herm Edwards this much–his teams play hard. Gotta love his physical brand of football.

Lastly, let’s not get too out of control over how close the Chiefs kept this game. Tom Brady is the best player in the NFL, and for 128 straight games he has been the Patriots‘ offense. Any team in the league (save Detroit and San Francisco) would have had a shot at taking them down after they were shellshocked with Matt Cassel under center. Are the Chiefs better than we thought? Probably. Do they have heart and some good young talent? Yes. Are they going to make the playoffs? No. still, it was an encouraging start to the rebuilding process.

Actually, one more thing I want to revisit. If we are going to give Brokie Croyle a million chances to prove his talent and durability, let’s not execute D-Bowe and DVD a la Columbian soccer players for a few gaffes. They also made some big plays, and will continue to do so. Hey, even Broadway has off nights. The Show will be back. I just think people are getting a little out of control with the Bowe bashing.

That’s all I have after reading the reactions and watching the tape.

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I find it hilarious that so many who are against Brodie because he is injury-prone are in favor of bringing in Chris Simms. I'm not opposed to it mind you, I just find it stunningly ironic. I must be the only here familiar with Simms own injury history.

Last season, 64 different QBs started in the NFL. Injuries to QBs are part of the game. Just because Peyton Manning and Brett Favre have played every game doesn't mean that's the norm much less that it is even a reasonable expectation for every QB.

To bring it a little a closer to home, in 1969, Len Dawson went out with a knee injury in a game against the Patriots. His replacement, Jackie Lee, didn't even last through the next game due to a broken ankle. With virtually no game experience, Mike Livingston came in and won 5 straight. After a six week absence, Dawson returned to lead us to our first and only Super Bowl victory. Just because your QB gets nicked up a bit is not a good reason to panic.

Another example to consider Ben Roethlesberger. Superbowl winner, injury-prone.

Guys, it happens.

Has Brodie has had more than his share of injuries for the short amount of time he's played? Sure, but he's always bounced back and generally done so sooner than expected. That's a pretty good quality to possess I think, especially if you're concerned about durability. For perspective, just imagine losing an MVP QB for an entire season.

Adam, I love D-Bowe, and he will do better, but seriously he blew in this game, and yea he did catch a td, but remember that is his job!

To have 3/4 drops in one game is terrible. Especially the game changers he dropped. I am not a D-bowe hater, and definitely not a brodie lover.

I have gotten over it and am ready for the Raiders!!!

GO CHIEFS!!!

Excellent...my diabolical plan for chiefs domination in 09 is coming along swimmingly (wringing hands)

Brody fell apart (like I knew he would) and Huard will helm us to a 4 and 12 season...hello Michael Oher!

Could you imagine..move Albert back to Left Guard and Oher at Left tackle. You would have monster blind side protection and could you imagine how they would open that hole up for LJ, Smith, and Charles

You guys know that Simms is a Lefty right? and that our right side (lefty blind side) protection blows right? This is one of the main reasons I dont want Tebow next year. I think im the only Chiefs fans left that wants to work a deal with GB for Brian Brohm. Aaron Rodgers looks good and Flynn is a nice backup. Just give us that "sucky" third stringer Brohm for a 4th rounder or something mmm k?

I think the bigest story (that everyone is overlooking) is how awesome our draft class is looking

1st Glen Dorsey.....Awesome (forces double teams)
1st Phat Albert.....Very Good (w/o preseason prep)
2nd Brandon Flowers.Very Good (lockdown?)
3rd Jamaal Charles..Awesome (so fast)
3rd Brad Cottam.....Ehh (shoulda got Brohm)
3rd Dajuan Morgan...? (overshadowed for now)
4th Will Franklin...? (coming soon)
5th Brandon Carr....Very Good (lockdown?)
6th Barry Richardson? (coming soon)
6th Kevin Robinson..? (coming soon)
7th Brian Johnston..? (overshadowed for now)
7th Michale Meritt..Ehh (hard to say)

So far we have 5 outa 11 good players from the draft. Thats an awesome draft! I think 5 was statisticly the best outcome we could have had from an 11 man draft. On top of that Will Franklin, Barry Richardson and Kevin Robinson have serious potential when they come back. And, even on top of that Morgan is being overshadowed by Page and Pollard; Johnston is being overshadowed by Hali and Turk. They may give us some depth.

So. 5 solid starters, 3 with serious potential when they are off injury reserve, and 2 giving us some solid depth....that is an unprecidented draft!

Now, lets do it one more time. Get Oher and shore up the right side of our O Line, rebuild our linebacker corps, and for god sakes...can we find a franchise QB...pleeeese.

*MasterBlaster runs BarterTown*

It's good to hear from a Pats fan that can see the hit wasn't dirty. That being said...

Take your clam eating ass back to the coast! Did you hear that? It was the sound of everybody jumping off that huge bandwagon you guys drive around! Now who does everybody root for? The Jets I guess.

Sure, Brady will be back...next year! Have fun missing the playoffs. You are nothing without your precious poster boy and his cheating ways. Ah, reverted to mere mortals again. Excellent.

Lifelong Patriots fan here. It definitely wasn't a dirty hit and Pollard is a decent player who shouldn't question himself-the camera doesn't lie.

Yet, some Chiefs fans are happy for this type of attention?? Awww...now that is downright pathetic. Ultimately, we New England folk are confident that we shall overcome.

Go Sox, Celts and Pats...the country's premier athletes represent. Brady will be BACK...muahahahah

I'm not going to defend croyle's injury history because that is becoming increasingly more difficult, if he never gets back on the field because he falls off the x-ray table and his arm lands in a bucket of acid, we'll never know how good or bad he really is. But in short defense of his play vs. Huard. Its pretty obvious that they were playing ball control offense against a great D and didn't want turnovers, keeping that in mind Croyle did his job, keeping the game close, and not coming close to turning the ball over. Huard did the exact same thing, and was just as boring until the last drive where they finally aired it out because they had to.

Also, maybe Huard tucks too much, but he sure as hell hung in there on the pass to DVD. Huard did a fine job, and Croyle did what he should have against such a good team. Ball control was the only way to have a chance against the pats and they did it very well.

Bottom line, we took the second youngest team in the NFL into Foxboro and came within five yards of OT with the best team in football. Tom Brady is good, but Cassel made only one mistake and got away with it, if Page had made the INT that was in his arms, no TD for the Pats and likely a different outcome. If this team plays like this for the rest of the season, they will be in the playoffs. This team is better than last years hands down, and we have a weaker schedule. My one game in prediction: its going to be a fun year.

I haven't been on in a while, good to see nothing has changed.

HAHA LOVE IT Scott! Kneecrusher *S* hell yeah! I agree with you on that Scott.

Good deal Adam.

SinyGuy - I agree that there was a lot of promise, but plain and simple we didn't win. There's a big fat L in our column. Hell with moral victories. I prefer the actual kind.

You are right, though. It was impressive that we hung with them like that, even with Brady going down. And true story with the jitters thing. You can throw DBowe under the bus a bit for this game, but don't throw him under in general. He'll be fine. Now if every game goes like this, sure go rail on him. I'll be right there beside you, but I don't think there's any reason to worry about that.

Bottom line - that game was winnable and we didn't get it done. I hope this lights a fire and we come against the Faders with some rage. We're better than that. Way better. I want to see LJ playing like a man possessed. I want to see the Kneecrusher lay some pain. I want to see the home crowd get the victory they've been deserving for so long now. I want to see a beat down.

All you Fader fans better get in your Darth Vader suits. You're going to need them to hide your faces after this game.

Thats what I do BEST!!!!!!

I'll work on that son.

CHIEFS!

JUDGING now is WAY too soon. WOW .... WE CHIEF FANS are FANatics!! Love to all CHIEFS FANS!!

CHIEFS!!!!

IT WAS THE FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

WE DID GOOD EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT! We still WON without actually beating them. WE (CHIEFS) regardless of the score proved a point as we were underdogs by I believe 15 and a half points! THAT DIDN"T HAPPEN!

I saw a ton of PROMISE from our CHIEFS.

AGAIN 1st GAME!!!!! Just like other teams if you watch the half time shows, show a lot of GREAT PLAYERS making mistakes (1st game jitters) THEY happen!

I am PLEASED with our CHIEFS and to keep a game like that as low as it was and as close as it was, to me.. IMPRESSIVE!

GOO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Kill the FAIDERS)!

Nah, the language is cool. We just don't use eff bombs in the posts, for a number of reasons.

Great comment, though, Scott. You more than made up for any crow you may have ate.

This is going to be painful. Gah.

Sometimes you just need to man up and admit when you're wrong. It would be a lot easier to just keep my mouth shut here. But...that would be pansyish of me. So here goes.

I was wrong about Brodie Croyle.

Much as it pains me to say it, I whiffed on my assessment of his durability. I've been preaching for months against his being injury prone. Damn him. Having to go and make me look like an idiot yesterday with his girlie little body. Rub some dirt on it you Nancy! Jesus H. Tapdacing Christ! It's not his fault but damn!

Seriously. WTF is wrong with that kid? Is he cursed? He has GOT to be the unluckiest son of a bitch I've ever seen. He needs a friggin suit of armor!

I read that Star article earlier today and...I couldn't agree more. I know, I know. The Star of all people. What the hell is going on here? Somebody get me out of this fucking twilight zone! D-Bowe is dropping balls like they're covered in herpes, Damon Huard almost leads a game tying drive on the Patties, and the Star writes a great article? What. The. Fuck.

Ok. Now that I've eaten enough crow to choke a horse, let's clarify things. I STILL don't doubt Croyle's ability or toughness. Just read that Star article. That's my exact opinion. Croyle should just start driving an ambulance to the stadium. Good god. The kid better not miss another snap when he comes back. Not a single one.

Bah. Now my humblification is complete. I'm sure DD will hang me for this. Bring it.

P.S. - I apologize in advance to anyone offended by the language. It could not be avoided.

Where did I say he hated him? It's no secret he doesn't want him as a starter, which was what the comment about lynching him was about. My whole point wasn't about hate for Brodie Croyle, it's this. I usually give a guy 3 years before I make a decision about them, both with and without playing time. If a guy hasn't played in 3 years (barring QB's, or someone who sits behind a superstar, a la Michael Turner, Jamaal Charles, or any TE on our roster not named Tony,) then he's obviously not getting the job done. The only time I've strayed from this was during the Sippio Saga; and I don't think of it as straying, because he played, and played well, in the AFL, then tried out, as a CORNER, with the Dolphins. I don't think he got a fair shake, but that's over and done with, so moving on..

If a guy starts, but plays poorly, you take things into consideration. What were the players around him like? Did he have a new team/coordinator/head coach at all during his 'slump'? Was he injured? Etc etc. Brodie has a new OC this year, and I think this is the first time he has had an actual line in front of him, even with Jones and D-Mac on the right side, it's better than Turley/Welbourn. He's got better weapons at all positions, including FB, which he didn't have before. This is about giving Brodie a chance, like we have to DVD. Everyone thinks he's a good number two. I actually dislike Webb the most of all our WR's, but I'd take him -production wise- over DVD as our number two, any day of the week.

This is Brodie's 3rd year, this is his make or break time. Chris Simms has had twice as much time to make a name for himself as Brodie, with arguably better players around him. Yet neither of them are 'hot commodities', neither are superstars, and both are struggling at their position. Tell me, if we are to go with basically the same person, only one is 3 years older than the other, who would you choose? If we're talking starting QB's, then this is a bad idea. If we're talking about bringing Simms in as a backup, and to provide a constant nipping to Brodie's backside, then sure, bring him in now, get him acclimated, and we'll see how it goes.

A million. Everyone still thinks I hate Brodie Croyle. What they don't understand is my top priority is what's in the Chiefs' best interests, not the best interests of Brodie. But I digress...

How many times does someone have to say they don't hate someone before people believe them?

So a 31 year old QB is out-of-the-question, but 27/28 year olds like Simms or Gray are the answer?

You want to lynch Brodie every chance you get, but the fact you still defend DVD is hilarious. You say you're not hypocritical, but really? You are. Maybe not to a large degree, but it is what it is, and that's all it is. Can come up with things to excuse it, or hide it, or whatever, but it's the same thing. You hate Brodie, it happens. Brodie is 0/7 as a starter, we get it. DVD has 21 catches so far in 5 years as a WR. I think if this were an apples to apples discussion, then DVD would effectively at LEAST be 0-7 as a starting QB. To make one play, and be labelled as a playmaker, and a good pickup, is ludicrous. Next you'll be saying he earned his Arrowhead by getting us to the 5, where we subsequently lost the game? He made one catch. He's supposed to. He is also supposed to make touchdowns. He didn't. In fact, look up DVD's stats and tell me how many TD's he's had. Keep in mind his best stats are from the Browns' games he played in, where the defense was (obviously) HORRIBLE. They've been the laughing stock for years.

I'm not saying Brodie is a God, and I'm not saying DVD is terrible. Ok, yeah I am saying DVD is terrible. I understand it's the nature of the beast to be ultra-microscopically tuned in to your QB at all times, but seriously. I have a feeling if Simms were to be signed by us, you'd immediately touch yourself. :P If you're going to say give DVD a chance, he can do something for us! Then do the same for Brodie. Brodie's had less time than DVD to get his act together, with a worse supporting cast, and let's face it, a TON more pressure than precious Devard ever had. They've both failed up to this point. Failed may be a bad word. They've but under-performed, up to this point. There ya go. Equality and justice for all.

My father was a successful comedian. Like Simms, it's in my blood.

DD, Peyton Manning and Brett Favre lasted with bad protection during different times in their careers. Same with a lot of other guys. You have to be able to get up when you get knocked down. Nature of the job.

And I don't want Daunte. He's 31 and damaged goods. I do, however, think he might be worth the gamble for the Pats.

LMAO at KCMizzou. You crack my ass up dude.

Culpepper is injury-prone. Adam wouldn't want him.

We need a big body that can take a hit and/or can run out of the pocket..Daunte Culpepper anyone???

Id rather see Simms, but is Culpepper that far of a stretch??

I want a team that protects the QBs and fans that can live with the pains and processes required for developing a QB. How long do think Simms will last with the kind of protection we've been affording our QBs? I'll answer that for you - NOT LONG!

Man... you people go crazy sometimes. I love you bastards for your passion though.

I want a quarterback who can stay on the field for years to come and progress along with his teammates. Period.

Meant to say "beat the Patriots" in second to last sentence. My bad.

Adam, DBowe had a bad day - I want him on my team -I just want to see him do better catching the ball.

Croyle was doing okay. We needed to move the pocket, run the bootleg and try to run outside - we hardly did any of those things.

I also wonder where our tall guys were on the final drive. Seems we could have tried running outside and jump balls.

If Bowe hangs on to either or both of those key 3rd down catches, I'm thinking we'd right now be having a totally different conversation and different perspective about Croyle's abilities. Guess what? It's not Croyle's fault that he gets clobbered when people miss their assignments. Never has been, wasn't yesterday, never will be.

I don't know game everybody else was watching but what I saw was a confident and unrattled QB delivering near-perfect passes while on the run or just before he knows he going to get crunched. Sorry guys, but that QB was not Damon Huard. Huard would have tucked the ball, and ended up with a concussion on top of a dislocated shoulder if he was the one who took the hit that knocked Brodie out.

Apparently saying it takes time and patience to develop a franchise QB makes me a Brodie believer (even though I'm not). On the other hand Brodie haters seem to just salivate at the first sight of his blood and won't hesitate to pounce on the guy and blame him first when he takes a pounding. If we fans are not willing to tolerate the ups and downs, of what it takes, including injuries, to develop a franchise QB, I can absolutely guarantee you we will never have one - regardless of whether we throw a dart at the draft board or otherwise. Everybody here bashing Croyle has the same message - we want wins and our guy can't produce them right now then it's time to move on. I guess we should just forget about the fact that those same people were saying we had no chance to beat the players anyway? Talk about hypocrisy and piling on!

After the post, I probably over reacted, which is deffinently not the way I wanted the post to go, cause I really did love the analysis..I just don't understand why people love Brodie and Hate Huard..I understand Brodie can avoid the sacks and has a much better arm, with much more potential upside but Huard can make plays too and continues to make them whenever he gets in the game..And yesterday with that throw to DVD he certainly stood in the pocket and took a huge hit...Maybe I'll be biting my tongue next week, but I think we'll come to play against Oakland bring out a win for Arrowhead

I can see why the only Quarterback on our team capable of making plays and getting touchdowns reminds you of a route canal....Not..Get the fuck over it..Quit the denial and wake up to the fact that despite whatever talent Brodie has shown, Damon is the only quarterback on this team that we KNOW can actually lead a team down the field and score.(I don't wanna hear about how Brodie can do this or that because he hasn't done jack yet).I know it hurts that he's 35 and he isn't apart of the youth movement, but grow a pair of balls and quit this non sense..I had a much more enjoyable time watching Huard yesterday than Brodie..Brodie makes me yawn my ass off..Whether thats his fault or the coaches I don't know, but what I do know is the minute brodie left in the third quarter 2 of our next three drives we're quite exciting..And no we're not going to find our future out their on the free agent market during week two of the season people..Sorry..Huards the man for the next two-three weeks..Wow we just might be 3-1 or 2-2..

Great writing Adam, I agree with you on all points. Brodie just isn't the anwser for the chiefs, period point blank (pacman). The Chiefs try to give him the label of "developmental" quarterback but COME ON this is year 3 and he has yet to show us anything that would let me or any other chiefs fan think that he has the potential to win a superbowl, which is the bottom line on quarterbacks. If you think Brodie can win a superbowl, I'm sorry, I don't want to knock anyone's opinions but Brodie can not and will never have the ability to win the big one much less a playoff game or two (especially in the AFC).

Joe Pa had a great point about quarterbacks in todays paper. He talked about how all the great one's are able to stay healthy. Some might call it luck to stay healthy but is it any coincidence that most of the recent SB winning quarterbacks(besides Dilfer) have been able to stay healthy and are consistent pro-bowl quarterbacks, brodie dosen't possess any of these traits.

I truly believe this is a blessing in disguise for chief nation. If were going to call this team a full out re-building process then we won't have to waste another year (next year) on counting on Brodie's potential to fully come out. Now we can play Huard or sign a vet for the rest of the year, win a few games (more then I think we would have anyway with brodie) and move on to the draft or free-agency finally with the urgency needed to get a First round or in their prime free-agent quarterback for our franchise.

P.S. the young defense looks good, and why is Pat Thomas our starting middle line backer, did he make one play on sunday?

I don't put a lot of stock in QB ratings but I don't think you can ignore the fact that Cassel came away with a 116 score. He was every bit as effective, if not moreso, than "Mr. Indispensable" could have or would have been.

We are a better team with Huard-reguardless of a loss, he put us in position to win.

Croyle simply does not have what it takes..ZERO touchdown passes so far in 10+ quarters?? YIKES

Not too concerned with Bowe..he'll come around..probably just over-anxious to impress and got ahead of himself

Defense still has tackling problems..and why didnt we give a toss or 2 to LJ or Charles at the end of the game??

You're delusional if you think Brady would have made that much of a difference. Cover the spread? What fucking ever!! It sounds to me like you're struggling to admit you were completely wrong about your prediction and in total denial about what actually went down.

The Chiefs were allowing stuff under, containing the run, and attacking the QB. That's called cover 2 Gunther-style. Getting to Brady as much as possible was our strategy and frankly, it was very effective. I have no doubts it would have continued to be so even if Brady hadn't gotten hurt. Keeping him scoreless is a far cry from the total drubbing you were so adamantly :)convinced would occur. If anything, bringing in Cassel in forced us to change our game plan from QB containment to run containment.

DD, I don't think Kolby was missed at all except maybe in pass protection. Charles is better everywhere else.

And I'm not anointing Flacco or Ryan, I'm just saying. Everyone doesn't go 0-7 out of the gate, or need five years.

As for Brady, the Pats were moving the ball with him, his receivers just had two fumbles. I just don't want us to set the bar too high for these young Chiefs. They would have covered the spread with Brady. I still believe that.

And that someone else, Im hoping is Mr. Simms. (that is if he isnt siging a contract in Foxboro as we speak.

Ok... Dude.. .Im not gonna throw ANYONE in particuallar under the bus. LJ played up to par, as far as playing New England's D and with a shitty (right side of the) O-Line, Brodie played well. Had a few overthrows, but all n all, did ok. I DO wonder though if he wouldve made that throw to DVD in the closing minute of the game, that Huard did. And I ALSO question Brodie's durablity. Nothing against him, but I mean... it just doesnt look good as our starter, ya know?

Now, if we're gonna get on "bullshit"... Then here ya go.

Let's not start a "Shit on D-Bowe" Campaign!

He dropped a few balls. Yeah, they were important, but still, c'mon. And I KNOW! I KNOW! If he's gonna call himself "The Show"... Then he's gotta put on a show... But I mean, hell... T.O. dropped tons of balls. Braylon Edwards dropped like 20 balls last season, and still went to the Pro Bowl. And I'm sure that we'd want either or one of those guys to sport the red and gold. D-Bowe is our guy. He was the second Kennison got hurt and still is. He's too good to let this slip him up. And like you said Adam, he has earned our respect. If anything he was 1 of 3 bright spots in our '07 season (the other 2 being Jared Allen being Mr. Everything and our Deffense).

So, lets get over it. And move on. We have what we have. Brodie is hurt. Damon is in (if we dont sign someone else). LJ is back, and our team is improving.

I'll grant you "The Show" will (probably) be back. Saying Bowe is the single biggest reason why our offense didn't click the way it needed to and the single biggest reason why we lost the game is not throwing him under the bus. It's stating the obvious.

One of these days maybe you'll consider doing the same when it comes to your critiques of BC. Contrary to what you tried to claim in another post, Brodie Croyle in no way, shape, or fashion lost the game for us. He played as well as I've ever seen him in a regular season game and that's exactly the kind of progress one should see in a "developing" QB, injury or no injury. And Adalius Thomas did do his best to make sure his own hit on Croyle was as retaliatory and vicious as possible.

I agree with you about Brodie needing better touch on short passes (something that comes with experience btw) however a #1 NFL receiver should also catch just any ball he can touch if he's to be considered elite. D-Bowe was anything but an elite receiver yesterday. D-Bowe TD was no spectacular than catches I've seen many other receivers make, including receivers even the Chiefs have cut.

I'll also give you a nod on the JC whiff and add a dropped pass to that - rookie mistakes, he's allowed a few.

You need to forget about the notion that the only reason the Chiefs kept it close was because Brady got knocked out. The score was 0-0 when he left and there wasn't anything he was did up until that time that our defense wasn't handling via the cover 2. What's more, he was getting pressured and hit and eventually got taken down as a result of our aggressive play on D. Don't even go there.

You're still underestimating this team. I believe now more than ever the Chiefs can compete with any team in this league. If yesterday's game had been played in Arrowhead, there is little doubt in my mind it would have ended with a W for the good guys.

Go ahead and annoint Flacco and Ryan to the HOF after 1 NFL appearance if you want. Smart money prefers the longer view.

Also agree on how much Franklin, Price, and K Smith were missed. Having any one of those 3 play would probably have been enough to tip the scales our way.
A little disappointed in Cottam's disappearance but I'm sure he'll come around.

Thanks, and I am being hard on Brodie. But teh Brodie Believers man crush on this kid make me look like a Sippio Hater. Just getting really sick of it. He doesn't have the goods or the frame. Let's just all face the facts and get on with our lives.

Excellent, excellent work here Adam. I agree with everything except for a small part of the Brokie stuff. I think Brokie was slighty above average during the game while he was in. Plus, I believe if Gailey would have given him more chances down the field he might have been able to impress us more. Then again, he might not. That's something we just don't quite know yet. Trouble of it is, we probably never will.