The Mr. Glass Era Needs Its Option B
Well, we already had one insane, angry outburst by a commenter. He’s probably shooting up a Wendy’s right now. Issues. By the way, going on a Michael “Kramer” Richardsesque rant on the site and the Addicts–its staff and commenters–will get you banned. I know a lot of you are upset about our Chiefs, but you can vent and still be respectful of your fellow fans (and almost all of you do–thanks!)
Was my score prediction wrong? Absolutely. I have no problem admitting that. I mean, how was I supposed to predict that Tom Brady would finally get hurt after 128 consecutive starts? Especially when I misplaced my magic crystal ball recently? Regardless, the Chiefs damn near took the defending AFC Champs down.
Why didn’t they? The same reason I said the Chiefs would get blown out, and the same reason I still think they will go 4-12 again. That reason: quarterback play. Brodie Croyle has a good arm and he’s a good kid. But I’m not sure he could make it through a 16-minute season, let alone a 16-game season. He’s never going to be a dependable starting QB. This isn’t even about talent, it’s about durability. Like Samuel L. Jackson, the kids call Brodie Croyle “Mr. Glass.” He’s just brittle. I’m not trying to be mean, but there’s no other way to put it. Maybe it should be Brokie (KCMizzou!)?
Meanwhile, Damon Huard is a waste of time. He may give us a better chance to win right now than Croyle or Thigpen, but not by much. I have never seen a more timid, flat-footed QB in my life. He simply does not like to get hit and does not get rid of the ball. It’s “two Mississippi” and tuck with that guy. His progressions are non-existent as well. Way to totally telegraph that pass to Dwayne Bowe, who was smothered by tight double coverage.
I’m being hard on Huard, but here’s the point: we are wasting our time with these two quarterbacks. Damon Huard is a 35-year-old back-up who’s made it painfully clear that he would rather hold a clipboard and get paid than get hit. As for Brodie Croyle, like Woody Allen said, “80 percent of success is showing up.” He is never going to hold up to the physical pounding an NFL QB is subjected to. He is officially an injury-prone QB. Besides, he hasn’t been worth a damn when he’s healthy.
This is exactly why I was preaching that we should add another developmental QB this summer. Don’t even try to bring up Tyler Thigpen–you know better than to go Thiggy Smalls on me. Now we have to bring in another guy, preferably Chris Simms. If we don’t bring someone in at this point and hedge what, at best, is a risky bet on Brodie, we are ginormous morons.
Our quarterbacks cost us this game. They will continue to cost us and hold back our progress until we find a long-term solution. King Carl and the Preacher better get their asses looking for Option B, and do it like yesterday.
More on the game to come…
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
September 7th, 2008 at 5:34 pmI’m very disappointed in Croyle. But I’m even more upset at the coaching. Did Gailey get bodysnatched by Mike Solari? Prove me wrong please! What is with the 3 yard passes? Croyle has a “strong arm” and I haven’t seen him use it yet. Why? Because he doesn’t want to, or because the playcalling is wrong. I don’t know …
September 7th, 2008 at 5:38 pmI think it’s a combination of ultra-conservative playcalling and Brodie not being able to make progressions. I also don’t think he has the confidence to fling it downtown. I also don’t think either of our QBs like getting hit.
September 7th, 2008 at 5:42 pmi think he is so worried about making a mistake that is why he wont unleash his arm strenght….in the game today i noticed it was 3rd and 5 the chiefs had a trips left and gonzalez right and brodie was in shotgun with charles next to him as soon as he said hut he turned and winged it out to charles he did not even look at his reads and bruschi followed him the whole way and i read it!!! it pissed me off!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 5:42 pmThat’s exactly what I hate, kcchiefsfan56. I don’t know who to blame, but I know this team has more potential now. We could have beat N.E. I’m not saying we need to break out the Vermeil offense, but come on …. Myabe it is Herm. Maybe it is Gailey. Maybe we need to find a new QB. i don’t know. But you know what? Every game this year will be like this … there were a lot of good points today … 2 turnovers on the first two drives … we are putting forth effort …
September 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pmyea i dont know who to blame either u can look at herm hes such a conservative coach who needs to grow a pair then theres gailey with his unpredictable bootleg preseason offense well our offense today looked very vanilla pre season offense!! well chiefs fans get used to it every game like this one… one more year of this lets draft us a quaterback next year(tebow or stafford)
September 7th, 2008 at 6:01 pmI also didn’t see any cut-back running … LJ had to be a man and run into a wall all day … the running game was awful. That Chicago game was nice, too bad we haven’t played that good since …
September 7th, 2008 at 6:03 pmyea every run we had was straight up the pipe with lj runnin up his iinemans backs!!
September 7th, 2008 at 6:06 pmwe need to sign andre woodson
September 7th, 2008 at 6:25 pmDont won’t to be a jerk, but BOWE dropped a TD, that would have tied the game, along with some other catches. He has to do better! GO CHIEFS
September 7th, 2008 at 6:27 pmhow about the huge upset with ten seconds to go in san diego.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:28 pmIt was glorious is what it was.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:29 pmi know i love it!! i cant stand them damn chargers so in week two either denver or oakland will be on top of the division
September 7th, 2008 at 6:29 pmi’m guessing every body will be tied atop the division in week 3. oakland winning tomorrow and kc beating them next week.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:33 pmThe best thing was that they wrote his name as “Rosario Dawson” instead of Dante Rosario on the UPS Leaderboard….lmao!
Losing at home to the Panthers sans Smitty? “Lights Out” dance that, Merriman!
September 7th, 2008 at 6:37 pmwhat about andre woodson possibly?
September 7th, 2008 at 6:44 pmDid they really Adam?
September 7th, 2008 at 6:48 pmI still don’t think Larry hits the whole consistently as hard as he used to hit it..Why did we not do any roll outs?
Atleast San Diego lost..We have got some potential to atleast win some games..But we need to wait for next week to make that call..If we lose next week then we are screwed..Can we possibly start better than 0-2 with Herm? Please tell me we can..By the way we looked much better than our last year opener against Houston..Lets not forget we played arguably one of the best teams ever in the nfl..Yes they we’re crippled without bRADY, but they still are one of the best in the league without him
September 7th, 2008 at 6:50 pmWhat? Noone wants to talk about Bowe dropping game saving/changing passes?
September 7th, 2008 at 7:01 pmSanya, how hard can you hit the hole when it isn’t there? The hole used to be there–that’s the difference.
Jeremy, Dwayne had a huge TD catch and made lots of other plays. Plus, he’s been brilliant previously. His drops were disappointing, but one of them was a terribly low pass from Croyle. He’s got to step up and play better if he wants to be The Show, but this loss was not solely his fault at all.
KCM, yes, they really did. True story.
September 7th, 2008 at 7:06 pmBrodie Croyle (separated shoulder) “hopes” to be back in 2-3 weeks, according to FOXSports’ Jay Glazer.
Damon Huard will start in Week 2 against the Raiders. Oakland’s secondary is fantastic, but his insertion is good news for Tony Gonzalez and Dwayne Bowe (assuming Bowe remembers how to catch the ball next week). Since shoulder separations can recur, don’t expect Croyle to be back too soon.
September 7th, 2008 at 7:07 pmFirst off I think the CHIEFS did well considering that the odds were a 16 in a half head point against us. THAT DIDN”T HAPPEN! Don’t get me wrong, was I happy? HELL NO!
Reason of being pissed off!
A) For 4 years albeit I have witnessed too much of the flat pass/screen pass and what has become so evident the run up the middle. (It shouldn’t take more then over a quarter to figure out it isn’t working)?
B) Officiating was AWFUL! Not an excuse! The SAFETY that took place…wait that is right it wasn’t accounted for EITHER time. So with that bit mentioned. THROW A FLAG HERM!!!!!!!!!!!! Venture out (nothing ventured is nothing gained).
C) I will make this one simple as can be. PRESSURE! as in pressure the QB which I saw a major lack of. With Cassel? We can take out TB and get pressure on him and then just scale back a tad bit from a back up??
D) Finally. What 4 shots at the END ZONE and not be able to get it in? I have a real issue with that. I don’t care if it is MAD 09 or what have you’s. You (WE) should have been able to square that off.
Finally…. With all mentioned ABOVE and what I wrote here I am still VERY pleased with our CHIEFS! We in my opinion beat the odds against NEW ENGLAND, VEGAS, ANNOUNCERS, WHITLOCK and so many others! Is their room to improve? SURE!
Just remember we were beat by the odds of 2 scores meaning TWO TOUCHDOWNS at the bare minimum. That didn’t HAPPEN!
CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 8:12 pm“I told you guys so”
Taking Brian Brohm in the 3rd doesnt sound so stupid now…does it. haha
That being said…BC was looking pretty good today until he got snapped off. Looks like it was more a durability issue than a “beaten up too much last season and lost his nerve” issue.
I wonder if there is a snow balls chance in hell of making a deal with the Browns or GB for Quinn or Brohm. Probably not.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:32 pmadam, it’s disgusting how you’re being such an apologist for “the D-Bowe show”. What show? Showing me how to drop a ball? Shades of Samie Parker there “Mr. Awesome.” He caught one easy TD pass, but dropped another when it counted. He dropped passes all over the damn field today. If Jeff Webb played the way Bowe did today, you would be SCREAMING to get him cut. But you’re so quick to forgive this guy who has that Ocho Stinko narcissism to him and yet fails to make the plays on third downs, in crunch time in the end zone, even when the ball hits him on the hands. Really? C’mon. Everyone questioned Darling and Webb in the preseason. But it looks like we should looks at “Mr. Self-Absorbed’ right now for the EPIC FAIL in this game.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:41 pmI wouldn’t say that was an easy TD that he had. I think everyone knows, D-BO too, that he did not show up. He is a 2nd year player and he is going to have ups and downs. Relax a little…
September 7th, 2008 at 8:45 pmBrian Brohm couldn’t even beat out Matt Flynn (7th round pick). Brohm is 3rd on the Packers depth chart.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:45 pmMaster, Brohm got beat out by a seventh-rounder. No thanks. I don’t think they will trade Quinn either. Not yet, at least.
Sudden, look, D-Bowe choked today. He just had some mental lapses and didn’t play at The Show level. At the same time, the one pass was definitely low and the loss was not entirely his fault. The reason I defend him and L.J. is because sometimes I feel like fans are a little harsh on them because of their personalities, which are harmless. I really do. Both are good guys and hard workers.
He also skied on the awesome TD catch. He looked like Dominique catching an alley oop.
Look, he’s not quite there yet. And, hell, he had a better game than guys named Braylon, Marques, Ocho Cinco and Torry did today, so…a lot of guys were rusty today.
He had a bad game, but he’s had more good games so far than any of his peers, including Calvin Johnson. Let’s take it easy on the kid.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:51 pmSeriously dude, calm the hell down. Adam isn’t being an apologist. He’s being a realist. So the dude had one bad game, and you’re ready to nuke him? The guy was one of the only bright spots for our team last year, and I’m sure at the time you were probably all over his nuts. That was one of the most ridiculous posts I’ve seen on here.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:00 pmHe’s right, though, I am a bit of a D-Bowe apologist. But I do think he’s earned a little more grace than most guys donning the Red and Gold at this point.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:13 pmYou can’t be defined as an “apologist” after only one game.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:19 pmIt is a bit of a stretch. I think Sudden just sees me laying the wood to other players. That’s where D-Bowe’s accomplishments in his young career earn him some grace that others don’t receive.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pmAbsolutely it does.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:25 pmor an expert for that matter.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pmI gotta go with Sudden. Bowe dropped at least five passes today, Croyle gets injured when he is crunched by an untouched Thomas and Croyle is the bad guy? No way.
Our defense was not bad but needs to stiffen and we need a mobile quarterback.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:35 pmFive passes? I counted three, and one was low. I will have an official count when I go back through the game.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pmLMAO…..WORD A AND CRANE!
CHIEFS
September 7th, 2008 at 9:42 pmWho was that in regards to Crane?
September 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pmMEANING I am on board with you guys that is. I too thought that D-Bowe dropped some balls, but hey… just as the majority have said.. Could be a lot worse and I still love the kid!
CHIEFS!
psst… don’t jump ship so quick man…take everything into consideration..Yeah we lost agains’t who? PATRIOTS! By how much is what I ask? not SHABBY AT ALL!
CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmOn Brian Brohm
“Master, Brohm got beat out by a seventh-rounder.”
Sweet………..that means we can get him cheap. I’d rather have him over simms or woodson
September 7th, 2008 at 9:52 pmI think we played pretty well considering. We really could have used a healthy Kolby Smith today.
Coach Chan’s play calling could have been better -
I’m not ready to throw in the towel
September 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pmI think we missed Franklin more than Smith.
September 7th, 2008 at 9:58 pmMaster,
You also have a huge mancrush on Brohm. I didn’t forget
Speaking of mancrushes, how about Matt Ryan?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:07 pmYou are probably right KCMizzou. We need to be healthy to win.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:16 pmLook, I’m not jumping ship on either the season, or Bowe. In fact, I went into this game expecting to compete and to have a chance to win it. And we did. And yeah, Bowe was one of the few highlights we had last season, but it’s not last season anymore. I expect him, if he wants to be the #1 in our offense, to make catches when it counts. He failed on that account today. He dropped passes in big moments. Not just the TD at the end, but Brodie’s third down roll-out and a simple screen as well. And no, he doesn’t have a career that earns him any leniency, he had a year. Tony G gets leniency, especially because he doesn’t have the cajones to call himself Mr. Awesome. If D-Bowe wants to be known as that, he’s gonna have to do things on the field. He failed today and I am NOT going to withhold my criticism. If you’re gonna talk the swagger talk, walk the swagger walk.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:32 pmSudden, I hear ya. After all, I’m a big fan of tough love. I just don’t want us to lose focus on the bigger issues–playcalling and QB play. D-Bowe will be awesome again, even though he wasn’t today. I’m not sure we’ll even turn it around in those other two areas this year.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:35 pmMy thinking is that Croyle would have been much better today if his passes were caught. Plus, I’m not sure he ever had a moving pocket or boot try either. I like Bowe but he did not have a good game today.
September 7th, 2008 at 11:27 pmI actually think WR play was worse than the QB play today. Our QB’s didn’t look terrible when they were in there, and Brodie actually looked above average before the contusion. They played smartly, beside Huard’s attempt to get a huge chunk of yards in one play, as time was winding down, which resulted in a pick. I can understand his frustration though. I probably would have tried to go deep too, as you don’t wanna give the ball back to a former 18-1 team, with 4 (or whatever it was at the time) minutes left, when they’ve run like hell over us all day long.
In next week’s game, I want to see Cox getting involved, Cottam; before he breaks his leg again, at least, getting involved. Going into the game with only 3 wide receivers was definetly a mistake, but they still could have done something. They didn’t mix things up alot. I was hoping to see Savage out in the slot. Anywho; here’s the players who I thought deserved accolades, and dishonorable mentions.
Our whole secondary played well. Randy Moss had over 110 yards, but he didn’t get any of that in crunch time, and well.. if you give even Matt Cassel enough time, Randy Moss is going to get open. Safeties played good/great, Pollard is now everyone beside the Patsies’ favorite player. (On a sidenote, can you believe Randy Moss, in a press conference, said that Pollard was dirty? Seriously, wtf? Stfu Randy.)
The DE’s also played increasingly well, especially against the run. If we had generated ANY kind of consistent push up the middle, my my. Boone looked good when he was out there as well. I don’t remember hearing Tank or Dorsey’s name all day long. Sad. I had high hopes that they’d come out fresh out of the gates and dominate. Dorsey hasn’t looked great this whole time, even against 1v1’s, where he should be straight beastin’.
Overall I think the D deserves a B-. We played well, but with better calling (BLITZ THE HOLY HELL OUT OF THEM YOU #$%^@%&!# was yelled at my TV a couple times) we could have done better. I think we had a safety there, at least once. Overall, good job by us to keep the high powered offense (and I don’t wanna hear it’s because Tommy B went down, because Cassel ended up having almost the same numbers on just one freakin’ play, out of the endzone. Matt played well today, and the guys around him are ‘unstoppable’ (at least last year they were.)
Offensively, VANILLA VANILLA VANILLA. I want some freakin’ chocolate. Throw me some strawberry, hell, I’ll take neopolitan. But for the sake of everything Holy, don’t let Chan be a Solari-esque coordinator. My heart just can’t take it. He will literally kill me if he keeps that BS up. And yes, that playcalling was BS. I could do better, without knowing the playbook, by saying “guys, block towards the left, Brodie FAKE a handoff to LJ, pump fake once, quickly, towards D-Bowe, and then shovel pass to LJ.” Jesus, it’s not hard to come up with plays, the announcers said we installed a whole new play package in JUST for Jamaal Charles. Well Jeezey Pete let’s install a whole new package in general, because we sucked.
Obviously I’m a bit angry with the play-calling (on both sides) but despite that, we played a helluva game. I thought LJ was too timid at times, of course, at times, he was smothered. I noticed he looked angry when he was constantly being taken off the field on 3rd downs. I was hoping that’d put a chip on his shoulder and we’d see a glimpse of LJ from 2005/2006. Nope. QB’s played alright, despite having a porous line and getting nailed. Props to Brodie for sitting in the pocket a few times and just getting shalacked, but still delivering the ball. The kid’s starting to put the mental aspect of the game together, now it’s a question of durability.
One thing I’m not happy with is RECEIVERS. I know we only brought 3 to Foxborough. D-Bowe. Webb. DVD. Not exactly my dream-team. Webb had a couple nice catches but overall was ineffective. DVD didn’t even have a pass THROWN to him until the waning minutes of the game. And if DVD had been any KIND of fast (even my big ass would have trucked into the endzone!) he would have scored on that pass. He split the defenders perfectly, but if you look at it again, Webb clearly outgains him, as do the defenders, so he gets pwned. We ended up not scoring, so I hold him accountable for part of it. You can’t come in and get ZERO catches in all pre-season + 95% of the first game, and then not be able to perform 100%. I’ve seen a couple DVD plays in Baltimore, and he certainly didn’t look that slow. Maybe it’s just me.
Well this post is already extremely long so I’ma cut it short.
September 7th, 2008 at 11:44 pmWingman,
Go read your favorite columnist’s comments today. B Movie did not own up to anything and if that was not bad enough, he even went so far as to claim he had a good game. If he can’t acknowledge that he played bad, where’s his motivation to improve? 5 drops is what I counted. 2 of those drops would have a sustained drives.
Not saying Bowe shouldn’t be the #1, just saying he better own it when he plays like “No Show.”
September 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pmI counted three drops, and he’s not my favorite columnist–I’ve been as hard on him during the past year and a half as anybody has. It’s funny how people lose their minds when I agree with him, only to agree with him themselves a week later.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:10 pmI think you pretty much know I’m just jacking with you wrt Whitlock.
Bowe dropped 2 3rd down catches that would have moved the chains an easy 1 that would have taken the game into OT. That alone is huge. I could swear there were at least 2 others that he had his hands on but didn’t hang on. You know the saying, “big time players make big time plays.” There’s also another saying I know you’re familiar with as a receiver which goes “if you can touch it, it’s catchable.” Bowe better step it up quickly or I’ll be first in line to call for the return of Sippio.
September 8th, 2008 at 2:31 pm