A.A.D.Q.: Return Our DVD Purchase?

So your telling me he's a Michael Clayton of the Buc's?

Dude can't catch a ball but he can block? I will give him some time but I will be watching him like a hawk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree that it is Croyle and DVD's fault, however I think it's a combination of a few things...

Croyle is looking to get the ball to Bowe first as he almost always should (unless the play call is to DVD), then Gonzo, or maybe even LJ to make a play on a catch n run. He is making the decision with (although what is already better than last year) limited protection, roll outs etc.. Even in a 2 receiver set DVD could be a 3rd or 4th option.

Let's give him a chance in real time situations, give him and Brodie a time to gel a little and lets see. I think once they get in rythym and confidence in each other, we might see a different story.

With Bo on one side, Gonzo and LJ in the middle it's hard not to put that speed on the other.

It has POTENTIAL to cause some matchup nightmares.. (double coverage, 8 in the box etc..), he just needs a breakout game!

CMF, I do not want to wait another six years for Brodie Croyle to game manage a Super Bowl for us. I appreciate the comparison and your patience. But there has to be some kind of time clock. If he doesn't show improvement over the next 16 games, that's a good sign that he never will.

Maine, no way he was targeted that many times. And if Webb would be a better No. 2, God have mercy on our souls.

I keep hearing most of the blame being put on DVD for bad routes, not getting open, etc...is anything ever Croyle's fault with this fan base?

I keep consistent for DVD as I did for Brodie. Herm n the gang see something in practice (or maybe it's what they don't see from the other WR's etc.), but I am going to trust thier judgement until I see otherwise IN GAMETIME SITUATIONS.

I do believe that Franklin might take over that spot once he is healthy and caught up, but only time will tell.

During the regular season, D-BO and Gonzo will constantly draw double teams. The double teams were few and far between in preseason facing some vanilla defenses (and them not playing much).

Give it some time and a few full games of them being double covered, and DVD being singled on the outside with that speed. Then I will judge.

I think Darling was targeted more than twice. More like 6-8 times. And the ball has not been there. Now some of that could be Croyle, but as Len Dawson pointed out, some of those plays he just ran the route wrong. He and Croyle seem to have no timing despite practicing together for 4 weeks. Cutting him would be extreme, given our lack of depth at WR. I do think either Webb or Price would be a better starter.

I've hung on to Darling's bandwagon since we picked him up, but I'm starting to run out of patience. We keep talking about how many opportunities that he has, and evaluating him on that basis. I agreed with that analysis at first, but at some point a guy has to earn his opportunities, right? Maybe Darling just isn't getting open?

All you Brodie haters need to go read this article from Don Banks over on SI.com. His title line is about it being too soon to call Matt Leinart a bust, but the best part of it is his conversation with Trent Dilfer who you may recall was the 6th pick in the draft by Tampa in 1994.

"Dilfer started just two games as a rookie in '94, and then made all 16 of Tampa Bay's starts in 1995. In his first 18 often-ragged NFL starts, Dilfer threw for five touchdowns, 24 interceptions, absorbed 55 sacks, completed 52.7 of his passes for 3,207 yards, and compiled QB abysmal ratings of 36.3 and 60.1 in those two seasons."

"Judging by the first two years of his career, Dilfer should have been toast as an NFL quarterback. A complete first-round bust. But a funny thing happened on his way to infamy. By his third season, in 1996, Dilfer was respectable. By year four, he was an NFC Pro Bowl quarterback, and Tampa Bay was a playoff team for the first time in 15 years. In the seventh season of what would eventually become a 14-year NFL career, Dilfer started and won a Super Bowl with Baltimore."

"...the recently retired Dilfer told me in a phone interview this week. "For a quarterback in this league, it really takes about 40 starts until you can truly see and evaluate someone."

Now I was never a huge Dilfer fan, but he did win a super bowl and made several pro bowls, and he did it in the modern NFL. I suspect his opinion about QB development is a lot more well informed than mine.

Young QB's struggle. That's the price we have to pay to develop one. Most of you probably dont even know KC's own Len Dawson was a backup for FIVE years in this league before he got his shot. Nowadays, everyone wants these guys to burn down the league inside of two years. That's simply not a realistic expectation.

It's apples and oranges, as the common phrase goes, to compare Brodie and DVD. First of all is position, and Brodie had 6 games to show his stuff, behind an (I think we can all agree- horrid) O-line, the starting RB hurt, and the ST giving us crap positioning. DVD got to play with Boller, who still has average stats as a QB, Steve McNair, who had lost a step, but still had it goin' on. Jamal Lewis/Willis McGahee, two good backs to keep that offence churning, a good line, anchored by Ogden, and veteran options in Heap and Mason to go to on his team as well. He should have been open on numerous occasions. 20 catches, is all he has. 20 catches, for his career. They went 13-3 the year before last. And he wasn't an integral, or even worthwhile, part of that.

Without seeing him at all in the pre-season, I hope to everything Holy that we ARE keeping him under-wraps, and somehow he just clicked with Chan and our O, transforming himself into a new player. But most likely, he'll have a disappointing year, and we're all going to say... Jeez, remember when we had Samie Parker? He at least caught a ball now and again..

AND, god help me, I'm a Chief's fan! When Peyton, Eli, or Tom gets old...we'll THEN invite them here to be our QB....(joemontana)
It's all about LJ, Priest Holmes, Marcus Allen, or Neil Smith, Derrick Thomas, or (I hate Peterson...think about it) Jared Allen, or any other MoFo!
Not in my lifetime have I known the Chiefs to have a stellar wide reciever, much less an accomplished reciever core!!
Talk to me people!! Bowe is the shit...he ain't Randy Moss...yet...I want wins...or I want us to go 2 & 14 this year. Just for next years draft!

Dwayne Bowe didn't do much this pre-season...he did more than that last season when I was watching games, in which he PLAYED! I thought DVD was something I put in to watch on a player...until I heard of some guy who's done NOTHING. I've watched every pre-season game thus far, & didn't even know this guy was a member of the team...im kidding, but give me a break!!

You want to know favoritism,...I thought for a split second (Herm with the Jets before us) that we would have signed Chad Pennington after the Favre debaucle! I don't like the kid, BUT.......Brodie friggin Croyle? He ain't even even THAT good!!!