A.A.D.Q.: The Non-AFC West Team You Most Hate?

Multiple fouls in #39.

"So break out the bottle... bring on the crowd
ya got to tell funny storie,s turn the jukebox up loud
c'mon sit at my table, where the drinks are all free
come gather 'round people... because misery loves company"

lyric by Mike Finnegan, another great Kansas Citian!

For me, I would feel cheated or disloyal if I rooted for another team. That's just me, though.

How does casually liking one team, and bleeding Gold and Red, make us any 'less of a fan'? Will we not feel that same 'other-worldly' bliss when the Kansas City Chiefs take home the Lombardi Trophy for this first time in (depending upon how soon we get it) nearly half a century? Obviously we're not bandwagon fans, as we all have a profoundly deep knowledge of both the game in general, and our beloved Chiefs. I couldn't tell you the Titan's full starting lineup, although they're my second favorite team, but I could name the starters AND most of the backups on the Chiefs. Yup, agree to disagree.

There is no Olympic team, smart ass. That's what I meant, and I think it was rather obvious.

I don't think it's a personal attack either, I just think some of us take pride in being a die-hard fan of only one team. I also know that because of sticking with just one team, the joy I will feel when we finally do win a Super Bowl will be almost other worldly.

And I understand pulling for the Saints after Katrina, that is totally different. I wanted something good to happen to those fans, the people who suffered.

But giving the Patriots that label is a joke. The rest of NFL Nation hates those pricks. I was so pumped when they lost. I guess misery loves company.

I just like watching football. I don't have to have a team playing to enjoy the game. Shit, I've gone to random high school games before just to watch the game. I also have fantasy football to keep me invested in games as well, which is huge. I spend a lot of time yelling at my players :)

I think this is just agree-to-disagree territory.

Actually, Adam, you're wrong about there being no USA football team.

http://www.usafootball.com/articles/29-international/134-us-senior-national-team/521-usa-tops-japan-23-20-in-double-overtime-to-win-world-championship.php

I watched that game last year, actually. Go USA.

However, you know what I mean by "America's Team". A lot of people were even calling the Saints "America's team during their really good season a couple years ago, and in a way they sort of were for that one season.

"America's Team" is a team that America can get behind and relate to. "America's Team" draws fans o the sport, and they play like champions. It is a team that is a household name across the country. You can even say "America's Team" embodies the American spirit.

And, by the way, it really hurts me that you guys think I'm uncool for using the term. Ahem. Sorry, it was really hard to type that with a straight face.

I was pissed when the Patriots lost that fluke game to the Giants. The year before that, I got so excited when Devin Hester ran back the opening kickoff on the Colts that I ran out of the house I was in yelling and almost fell through the steps. The year before that, I enjoyed watching Ben Roethlisberger lead the Steelers to Super Bowl victory while I sat in a room full of bandwagon jumping Seahawk fans (Shaun Alexander played at Bama). Football is an emotional game, and I choose to enjoy that aspect of it as much as possible.

It's just a shame that some people refuse to let themselves feel any joy whatsoever at the victory of more than one team. What do you do when you're watching all this football? Sit solemnly in front of the TV, not caring at all what's happening in the game? Sounds pretty boring to me.

But see, I'm cool with that if that's the way you want to enjoy football. That's your choice. Why criticize me for mine?

Whitlock

who called them busts? NOT ME

I'm excited about TNT finally starting, too, Jason. Another Jason can shove it on calling them busts!

#27 was GREAT DD, also i heard today that tank has replaced edwards as a starter, dorsey+tank=awesome.
also heard that mac is on his way out as a starter also, albert+taylor at tackle=awesome

LOL. Yeah, like that better! :P

America has no football team. It has a basketball team (the Redeem Team). It has a soccer team. It has a baseball team. But no football team. I think you just lose cool points in everybody's mental Rolodex when you drop "AT" bombs. I hate the phrase as well. It should be America's Bandwagon Team. That's what it really means.

Exactly. Anyway we can banish, deduct points for, whatever, use of the "AT" phrase here? Echh!!! :(

To each his own...indeed...

You are a monogamous mofo, Double D. Glad to see that there are still a few of us throwbacks left. I agree--it is a man law. I think it is worded like this:

Thou shall only root for one team.

The exception being your fantasy team and players, which is completely different because you have no vested interest in whether other real teams win or lose.

And I watch as much NFL football as anybody out there. NFL Direct Ticket, every year. DVR. That's a poor excuse.

Being a real NFL fan is like a pendulum swinging. I think it was Gibran who wrote, "to the degree you feel your sorrow, to that same degree you will feel your joy"...or something to that effect.

Has absolutley nothing to do with how much football you think you've seen because if it did, I'd have you hands down.

By now, I am pretty certain you and I will never see eye-to-eye on this one. I respect your opinion on other points, but not this one - sorry. To each his/her own I guess. My only request would be that you please do not use the "America's team" phrase here ever again. So completely wrong.

Incidentally, my reference to "second favorite" was not directed at you - it was however offered by another poster, I felt compelled to respond.

No, it's not a "man law". I think more of a "man law" would be to always root for one team or the other during a game (unless it's a special circumstance).

Therefore, if you watch as much football as I do, there are certain other teams you tend to develop an affinity for for one reason or another. So I will pull for the Patriots against most other teams in the league, unless they are playing the Chiefs or it affects the Chiefs in some way.

It's similar to the way I will root against Oakland, Denver, or San Diego no matter what. If they are playing eachother, I go for whichever one will hurt the Chiefs less by winning. If it doesn't matter either way, I go against the Raiders.

It's not because any of these teams are my "second favorite" or my "fallback team" -- that's simply untrue. It's just that there happen to be a couple other teams I admire for whatever reason and I like to see succeed.

Patriots and Cowboys = America's team(s)? I can't even believe I just read that here. Calling some other team "America's team" is a total insult to The Nation. I wouldn't even want the Chiefs to ever be called that - it just skeeves.

Given the fact that I've been following and supporting the Chiefs, my one and only team, since the mid-60s, I happen to believe I have a damn good grasp of the game and its history.

Call me an unenlightened, asshole, adolescent, savage, whatever fucking makes you feel smart, but you'll never see me getting all weepy about the Founder's Club or any of that shit. My passion is for what goes down on Sundays. I watch as much I can, enjoy the game, respect other team's players but I'll never root for the teams they play for unless it somehow helps the team I care about.

I'll always follow what's going on elsewhere, the playoffs and the Superbowl regardless but not as fan of any team other than the Chiefs. No second favorites, no fallback team, nuthin. Period. Amen.

I've said before and I'll say it again. I don't see how a fan can fully appreciate the highs without suffering the lows and looking for around for another team to cheer me up when the Chiefs lose would feel to me like infidelity. It would also feel a little too much like a bandwagon.

Don't like seeing my opinion on this? Look away.
One NFL team per fan. Man Law dammit!

well payton's sack cry was WORSE than whiny bitchcake's

ROFL Jason, I remember that night. Monday Night Football, we whooped up on the Ravens. Ray Lewis kept spouting off "Oh yeah! It's gonna take two ya'll to block me! It's gonna take two ya'll!" Next series, Waters 1v1 pancaking his ass flat. I swear I wanted to shed a single solitary tear, it was so beautiful. It also diminished my view of Ray Lewis more than encarceration ever did. I'd officially like to request we all call Ray Lewis 'Whiny Bitchcake' from now on. Yes you heard me.

Brian Waters is a hardass.

two words about the Colts: Jim Harbaugh... grrrrr granny get yer gun!

oh yeah can ya tell I HATE THE COLTS so i may be predjudiced

not a rams fan at all, and adam i will have to disagree about manning somewhat. the man is a class act. the player blames every sack on the oline. and a couple of years ago he was mic'ed up and i think it was ray lewis who sacked him and he sounded like a little girl, oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhwhoooooooowhooowhhoooo, this was after waters turned ray lewis out while babyray was mic'ed up, they're blockin me with 3 or 4 guys when it was waters alone kickin' his ass. ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER THIS?

#$@^%$!! Patriots.

I have never disliked the Rams. Quite the contrary, being that they do reside in the great state of Missouri. And I was born in St. Louis. I don't really see Chiefs-Rams games as a bitter rivalry at all. It seems like more of a respectful competition.

Now, the Cardinals are a totally different story. I hate the Cardinals.

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Brett Favre is about 80% of the reason I've liked the Packers, too. The other 20% is that it's my uncle's favorite team. But now that Favre's gone, I won't look at them quite the same way.

I like the Patriots because they're my generation's America's team, as far as I'm concerned. You can't just not have respect for the first dynasty you got to experience as a real football fan (I was born in '89, but I didn't pay that much attention to football when the Cowboys had their reign). The Patriots also seem to have the ultimate team mentality, and a real winning attitude.

I like the Steelers because I like Ben Roethlisberger and Troy Polamalu. I also like their style of football (before Mike Tomlin came along that is).

I just think the Vikings have a cool team right now. They're legitimate Super Bowl contenders in my mind.

Ha, that is funny...I have never cared for the Rams, just Grant Wistrom when he played there but only cuz he is a local boy.

Glad there are some people that agree with me :)

Who all is going to be at the home opener? anyone?

I rooted for the Packers when Farve was there.. He is a total class act. I wanted him to win another Super Bowl, when it was obvious the Chiefs were done.

I think I will have to pull for him at the Jets, as long as it doesn't interfere with what we have going on here.

I typically don't root for any single team unless there is an old "good" guy trying for another run at the ring. I usually root for the underdog, or a close game if the red and gold are not affected.

Actually I think most of the people I saw with Rams jerseys on in previous years were supporting "Moss" or "Brady" jerseys this year. Funny how that works...

I like woody. woody, I like you. We agree a lot.

There was actually a huge argument similar to this one a few weeks back when I revealed that I root for other teams when the Chiefs aren't playing (Patriots, Packers, Steelers, even Vikings). It's because I love football so much. The Chiefs are, of course, my first love, and the only team that I devote so much attention to. But I admire other teams for various reasons. My love of the sport won't allow me to simply shun other teams. That would be ridiculous.

Unfortunately, woody, SOME people here don't understand that, and won't accept it. The argument we had a few weeks ago was so intense I almost considered not commenting here anymore.

Just know there are people on your side, too.

Well, living back here in Springfield..I have to say the Rams. The fans come and go with the weather..if they are good they are everywhere, and saying "I've been a diehard Rams fan all my life!" Ah first so you are a Los Angeles kinda guy/girl? Second, where were you in the 90's when the best they could pull off was 7 wins? True, you did show up in 1999, as did the rest of my friends who didn't really watch much football, but now they are diehard fans, that seem to have disapeared again lately for some reason!

However, living in Austin.. definatley the Cowboys. Half the fans are illegals, the other half that speak english spit out nothing but douchebaggery (Official language of the Douchebag). I will have to give it to them, their fans are consistent douchebags.. not just when they are good.

With that I would have to say the Rams by a nose hair over the Cowboys.

0-15 I will still have my Chiefs Jersey on, at the bar cheering my team on.

I gotta agree with Woody insofar as I generally like other AFC teams not in the AFC West and have a distaste for the NFC as a whole. My dad was a big AFL guy way back when in the 60's and Lamar Hunt's visionary dream has made me largely an AFC homer. That said, there is one team in the AFC non-West that I hate, passionately: The Colts.

I hate the Colts for a few reasons:
1. Not originally an AFC/AFL team. They were a member of the enemy conference.

2. They play in a dome. If you play in a dome, I cannot like you. Football is meant to be played in the elements: cold, bitter, snowy, rainy, whatever. Domes suck and I reserve the greatest level of contempt for dome teams.

3. They always beat us in the playoffs. Its getting a little old losing to them in the first playoff game we have in whatever season.

4. They just can't seem to beat SD, and I (as a southern cali resident) hate the Chargers with a passion that almost equals the hatred I have for DEN and OAK. Note to the Colts: There is one game I will actually pull for you guys, but you seem to throw it everytime you play the Chargers. Peyton throws five picks in one game and only five in the rest of the season? Vinitieri misses multiple FGs and extra points? WTF? Just beat them already.

That said, I have no problems with the successful members of our conference. I actually like the Pats. I like the Jags. I like the Browns. One other AFC team that I dislike: The Dolphins (sorry guys, a mascot and team name is supposed to be somewhat intimidating and your colors look like your ready to march in the next pride parade).

NFC Teams I like:

Da Bears are my second favorite team. I lived in Chicago in '85. I've always liked their philosophy of defense and ball control. And I got a woman in my life who is a big Bears fan.

I like the Packers now because they dumped Favre and have a young team that reminds me a lot of our own. But I'll still pull for the Bears against them.

I mildly like the Seahawks because, even if their 12th man is nothing like Arrowhead, at least they're passionate and care enough to give us a run for loudest stadium (sorry dome teams, you guys dont count because you're a bunch of wimps).

I still totally disagree about Manning. He's a total class act.

And I certainly take interest in other games and teams, and admire some players, but I don't actively cheer or root for any other team. Most of the time I am cheering for my fantasy team, my bets to come through (didn't bet at all last season...yay me!) or against a team. Actually, most of the time I am sulking about the Chiefs, just watching other games to numb the pain. That's just me, though.

oh, i must apologize, I took this as an intelligent (ish) conversation and not some forum for 8th graders (mentally, if not also physically) who don't have an actual appreciation and love for the sport overall. I suppose once the Chiefs are out of the picture you just shut off the TV and cheer for noone. You are one of those that watches the Superbowl for commercials I would expect.

I choose to cheer for teams loyal to the conference that our late owner founded. (It's a historical thing, you will understand someday.) As for the NFC teams, those are teams I will hope to do well when I am bombarded by the nonstop lackluster schedules of NFC on NFC tripe.

As for Manning, he is ABSOLUTELY a cocky, whiny jerk of a man. I don't imagine you can get beyond the image of him in those commercials (the ones you tune in to the Superbowl to watch.) Everything about him starting from his role in making a mockery of the Draft by getting his (also selfish and whiny) brother out of going to SD. His performance in-game is also evidence of it, any time he holds on too long and takes a sack that he could clearly have avoided he yells at his line. Any time there is a ball he overthrows he will piss and moan about the reciever not catching it. Any time there is a failed 3rd down conversion it is either the RB, the Line, the Reciever or the Coach's playcall, he never takes the blame himself. He is an ass-clown and makes me sick.

now...the KC Star-esque response from the "savage" (read: adolescent)...

Ouch. You pulled the old Chipper Jones on him. I still love that guy for when he told Mets fans they can put back on their Yankees hats after the Braves knocked the Mets out of the postseason and the Yanks were still playing.

I hate em all.

So Wussy, I mean Woody, who do you consider your fallback team if the Chiefs don't make it to the playoffs?

Woody,

Peyton Manning is cocky and jerky? In what bizarro world is that? The guy I see on TV every Sunday is the complete opposite?

Also, as some have already found out, admitting your affection for other teams is a risky proposition around these parts. The Addicts get savage at times.

MikeSD,

Those of us who have lived in places like Columbia, Jeff and Springfield HATE the Rams. Why? Because we saw lots of alleged Chiefs fans turn in their Red and Gold for Blue and Gold, now Navy and Gold. If you haven't lived in one of those places (or St. Louis), then I can see how you wouldn't hate them quite as much. Still, I thought all Chiefs fans hated the Rams.

Historically, I have always disliked the Cowboys. The attitude of the team and fans just set me off. They can never lose enough. On a lighter side, Jerry Jones thinking he knows how to build a team is an ongoing source of amusement.

My dislike for other teams seems to be inversely related to the amount of pimping the media gives them. Currently, the Packers and the Patriots are high on my list. Living in Patriot country just adds to the fun.

CANNOT STAND THE SEACHICKENS!!! I didn't like them in our division and cannot stand them now either. Another team I cannot stand is the f@%&*ing Vikings. I am also NOT a fan of Cinncinnati, Buffalo, NYG, Redskins, Cowboys or the Texans. Don't have a problem with St. Louis, not sure why you made this statement, "I hate the St. Louis Rams, too, as all true Chiefs fans do."???? I don't like them when we play them and hope we kill them every time we do. But there is nothing wrong with them besides that.

I tend to like most AFC teams for some reason...I am pretty loyal to the conference for some reason and can't stand MOST NFC teams. It drives me crazy when NBC and ESPN have all their lame NFC games noone gives a piss about...(yea, you will start to notice it now, if I have to watch Eagles/Redskins in primetime once more I will lose it...) There are a few teams that are exceptions to this conference loyalty...

AFC Teams I dislike:
-Colts: Just can't stand Manning, the cocky, whiny jerk of a man.
-Bengals:I will never forget them ending our winning streak.

NFC Teams I LIKE:
-Saints: I just like Brees now that he isn't playing against us.
-49ers: I like their history, is a big part of it, but also their coach is a great man and I want him to do well.
-Seahawks: The Big Show and Matt Hasselbeck attract me, HOWEVER that 12th man business is nonsense, Arrowhead is louder.
-Bears: They are just tough and respectable.

feel free to argue these...i know you will...

Patriots.

I really dislike the Jets and the Texans for some reason. Don't care for the Colts, either, but I respect them.

i hate the cowboys with a passion i hate that they say the whole the roof has a hole so god can watch his team pleease!!! thats just dumb............................but other than them i live in south mississippi and i hate the saints the fans are fair weathered in 06 when they got to the championship game everybody jumped on the bandwagon and i cant stand that, and there cry babies too!!!

GO CHIEFS!! we got the best fans!!!